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03:20:41 (I have a module which, when imported, yields: ERROR in type-name: invalid type, expected type: # 03:20:44 ) 03:21:18 Yes, use another Scheme to debug your code first. 03:21:25 :-) 03:21:37 heh 03:21:45 chibi's module system is unique though 03:21:47 isn't it? 03:23:34 *elly* applies gdb 03:24:49 -!- tupi [~david@189.67.20.144] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 03:25:14 xwl_ [user@nat/nokia/x-mdnhuieivvuunlnw] has joined #scheme 03:28:15 elly: It's probably a macro-expansion error. Chibi will print the stack trace by default, so there's likely no pending calls beyond the macro itself. 03:29:05 foof: okay - how do I tell what I've done wrong? 03:29:40 I generally insert display's to see where the problem is. 03:29:51 insert them into the basis library? 03:30:30 freakazoid [~seanl@c-67-164-106-36.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 03:30:52 No, binary search. Insert them at the top-level of your library to see what expression is causing the problem, then if it's not obvious why that expression is bad insert them inside the expression. 03:32:16 It may be easier to just `load' the source directly, and if it doesn't depend on Chibi-specific libraries you could then try in another implementation as jcowan says. 03:34:12 Hopefully there will one day be another R7RS implementation to test against (and the will of Zeus will be fulfilled). 03:37:20 A wild implementation appears! 03:40:56 I dub it "Athena" 03:41:40 and how did this one get fathered? the old golden rain trick again? 03:42:32 No, Athena just leaps out of Zeus's forehead without any prior actions. 03:44:42 zzach1 [~zzach@dslb-178-001-137-118.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #scheme 03:44:57 I suppose it's better than seducing women in the guise of a bull... 03:44:59 -!- zzach [~zzach@dslb-084-061-110-135.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 03:46:04 -!- poincare101 [~Dhaivat_P@CPE-65-27-96-82.new.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 03:48:21 ijp: "You're a man in a bull suit" -- "No, I'm a god. Now be quiet." 03:48:44 *ijp* forgets which one he seduced like that 03:48:47 europa? 03:51:35 rudybot: those greek women were into some really strange things 03:51:35 ijp: without those cues in a few scenes, the film would seem strange in those parts and you'd lose information 03:52:06 jeapostrophe [~jay@69.169.141.110.provo.static.broadweavenetworks.net] has joined #scheme 03:54:35 -!- turbofail [~user@c-107-3-149-149.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:55:16 At least the bull could deliver, unlike the swan. 03:56:00 "Copulation in birds is generally clumsy, since the male birds with few exceptions have no penis. The mating birds cling and may twist about until the two vents are brought together and sperm is transferred to the females." 03:58:55 ijp: Maybe in ancient Greece, the phrase was "hung like a bull". 04:00:33 Doubtless. 04:04:18 "hung like a portrait" 04:04:39 ddp_ [~ddp@216.243.111.165] has joined #scheme 04:06:32 -!- jeapostrophe [~jay@69.169.141.110.provo.static.broadweavenetworks.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 04:08:33 -!- ddp [~ddp@anon-136-20.relakks.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 04:08:33 -!- ddp_ is now known as ddp 04:14:38 offby1: this portrait is offby1 degree. crooked. 04:16:20 -!- freakazoid [~seanl@c-67-164-106-36.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 04:17:05 honestly, who brings a protractor when viewing paintings? 04:21:03 replore_ [~replore@203.152.213.161.static.zoot.jp] has joined #scheme 04:22:53 Another painter. 04:23:16 "Never go to the movies with a cinematographer, because all he will talk about afterwards is how the boom was visible in scene #84." 04:28:34 or how the projector's bulb was too dim. 04:33:45 gnomon [~gnomon@CPE0022158a8221-CM000f9f776f96.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #scheme 04:33:58 -!- copumpkin [~copumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 04:34:02 ijp: it might be soemthing hung on a friend's wall, you glance, then cannot tear your eyes from the distracting failure of horizontal. 04:34:14 ijp: luckily, a quick nudge can fix it. 04:34:18 ijp: for everyone. 04:34:26 copumpkin [~copumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod] has joined #scheme 04:40:33 -!- mjonsson [~mjonsson@38.109.95.176] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:45:02 -!- ijp [~user@host109-154-206-160.range109-154.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: The garbage collector got me] 04:57:39 elliottcable [~me@ell.io] has joined #scheme 05:09:59 -!- kk` [~kk@unaffiliated/kk/x-5380134] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:13:17 -!- hypercube32 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(not OS threads and not single-core) 15:17:02 No. 15:17:11 -!- sixpoint8 [~Adium@ip68-12-204-131.ok.ok.cox.net] has left #scheme 15:17:16 sixpoint8 [~Adium@ip68-12-204-131.ok.ok.cox.net] has joined #scheme 15:17:47 :( 15:18:13 drdo: use erlang :) 15:18:15 *qu1j0t3* runz 15:18:27 qu1j0t3: meh 15:18:44 Haskell, then? 15:18:46 I've been using haskell because of this very problem 15:19:13 Your best bet is probably Gambit's termite, which can mix green threads with multi-processing (optionally on separate hosts) on one of the faster Scheme compilers. 15:19:15 But i'd rather use lisp 15:19:19 -!- sixpoint8 [~Adium@ip68-12-204-131.ok.ok.cox.net] has left #scheme 15:19:28 sixpoint8 [~Adium@ip68-12-204-131.ok.ok.cox.net] has joined #scheme 15:19:41 -!- sixpoint8 [~Adium@ip68-12-204-131.ok.ok.cox.net] has left #scheme 15:19:42 Termite is basically Erlang in Scheme. 15:20:02 sixpoint8 [~Adium@ip68-12-204-131.ok.ok.cox.net] has joined #scheme 15:20:36 I don't even care the immutability and message passing part 15:21:06 I'd just like to be able to use threads that don't take up 10 bazillion memory for no reason 15:21:19 *care about 15:22:50 jeapostrophe [~jay@69.169.141.110] has joined #scheme 15:23:47 There you may be stuck for the near future. 15:23:50 Is call/cc still in r7rs? 15:24:00 Yes. 15:24:07 Why, oh why 15:24:39 Call/cc is one of the defining characteristics of Scheme, and is freakin' awesome. There's no way it's ever going away. 15:25:22 But what does that have to do with threads? 15:25:32 Nothing, just asking 15:25:58 I think first class continuations are a big mistake, that's all 15:26:11 For a practical language 15:28:36 foof: https://plus.google.com/104178729694994695707/posts/CyTykQYC8v2 :-D 15:29:00 *cky* <3 call/cc, obviously 15:29:05 :D 15:30:37 -!- sixpoint8 [~Adium@ip68-12-204-131.ok.ok.cox.net] has left #scheme 15:30:47 -!- ddp [~ddp@216.243.111.165] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:30:48 drdo: What's impractical about them? They generally cost nothing if you don't use them, and although people wring their hands about how "dangerous" it is, I've never even heard of a "bug" caused by unexpected call/cc. 15:31:01 ddp [~ddp@216.243.111.165] has joined #scheme 15:31:08 foof: Big burden on implementors for no gain at all 15:31:14 -!- ddp [~ddp@216.243.111.165] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:31:30 ddp [~ddp@anon-135-167.relakks.com] has joined #scheme 15:31:31 drdo: "No gain at all"? That's very strongly worded. 15:32:15 cky: Outside of mental masturbation, there's little gain from having first class continuations in practice 15:32:22 drdo: How do you implement shift/reset without continuations? Or even simpler, how do you implement exceptions without continuations? 15:32:33 drdo: But it's already implemented, and is not a maintenance burden. Are you talking about people writing hypothetical new compilers that would take years to catch up with the existing ones that already support call/cc? 15:32:34 drdo: How do you implement yield withou continuations? 15:32:36 cky: You just have exceptions 15:32:43 drdo: there are many almost Scheme's like IronScheme that does not provide full call/cc support 15:33:27 cky: What is yield? 15:33:27 Hmmm... slow down people. 15:34:06 drdo: Sorry, I assumed you use Python, Ruby, and/or C#. 15:34:07 drdo came on insulting Scheme's threads, and when that didn't yield anything jumped to attacking call/cc. We're being trolled. 15:34:17 foof: Duly noted. 15:34:22 good night all 15:34:26 foof: o/ 15:35:36 I'm not trolling at all 15:36:15 I've been using CL for almost everything i do 15:36:29 But the lack of proper threading in implementations is just not cutting it anymore 15:38:44 -!- jeapostrophe [~jay@69.169.141.110] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:39:13 wingo [~wingo@cpe-065-190-004-135.nc.res.rr.com] has joined #scheme 15:39:15 drdo: See, to me, proper threads == POSIX threads. 15:39:18 drdo: Anyway. 15:39:22 wingo: o/ 15:39:45 cky: Why? 15:39:49 -!- GoKhlayeh [~GoKhlayeh@ARennes-652-1-88-131.w2-11.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:40:03 heya 15:40:05 wingo: It was nice meeting up! I'm sorry I didn't get a chance to show you my car plate. Hopefully next time. :-) 15:40:14 yes indeed, a lovely time :-) 15:40:42 sorry i had to leave first, i would have liked to have stayed 15:40:54 *nods* 15:41:16 GoKhlayeh [~GoKhlayeh@ARennes-652-1-88-131.w2-11.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #scheme 15:41:52 bipt and unknown_lamer did see it, so you can take their word that it's real. :-D 15:42:26 jewel [~jewel@196-215-117-46.dynamic.isadsl.co.za] has joined #scheme 15:45:35 -!- Euthydemus` [~euthydemu@unaffiliated/euthydemus] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:45:48 Euthydemus [~euthydemu@unaffiliated/euthydemus] has joined #scheme 15:46:35 -!- wingo [~wingo@cpe-065-190-004-135.nc.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:47:49 realitygrill [~realitygr@thewall.novi.lib.mi.us] has joined #scheme 15:48:08 -!- _schulte_ [~eschulte@c-174-56-1-147.hsd1.nm.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:49:31 freakazoid [~seanl@c-67-164-106-36.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 15:51:20 -!- ahinki [~chatzilla@212.99.10.150] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.88 [Firefox 10.0/20111228055358]] 15:52:48 tuubow [~adityavit@c-69-136-107-140.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 15:54:40 -!- ddp [~ddp@anon-135-167.relakks.com] has quit [Quit: ddp] 15:57:10 ddp [~ddp@216.243.111.165] has joined #scheme 15:57:18 -!- ddp [~ddp@216.243.111.165] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:57:22 cky: that's fine until you need 1,000,000 of them :) 15:57:33 ddp [~ddp@anon-168-18.relakks.com] has joined #scheme 15:58:08 -!- Euthydemus [~euthydemu@unaffiliated/euthydemus] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:02:01 qu1j0t3: I dare say that if one needs a million threads, their program design is busted. ;-) 16:02:17 -!- ddp [~ddp@anon-168-18.relakks.com] has quit [Client Quit] 16:02:57 e.g., worker thread pools are likely to be much more appropriate. 16:03:31 cky: Erlangers would disagree :) 16:03:36 cky: it's a natural pattern for erlang 16:03:37 Hehehehe. 16:04:20 ddp [~ddp@216.243.111.165] has joined #scheme 16:05:44 wingo [~wingo@cpe-065-190-004-135.nc.res.rr.com] has joined #scheme 16:07:31 jeapostrophe [~jay@lallab.cs.byu.edu] has joined #scheme 16:08:06 -!- ddp [~ddp@216.243.111.165] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:08:22 ddp [~ddp@anon-137-37.relakks.com] has joined #scheme 16:08:39 cky: A worker thread pool is what the implementation's runtime should have 16:09:29 So i don't have to use epoll and thread pools directly and can just write my program 16:11:27 drdo: There are times when you need to have multiple pools, and not just have one giant global pool. 16:11:33 So your program should be able to manage that. 16:11:40 cky: Are you against GC too? 16:11:45 Sure, for convenience, you can provide a giant pool. 16:11:51 drdo: Oh, _now_ you're trolling. 16:12:01 Not trolling at all, i'm dead serious 16:12:31 drdo: I don't disagree with having a global pool for convenience, when programs don't need more than one pool. 16:12:51 But you can't hide it from the program to such an extent that they can't specify which pool to use, or can't have more than one pool. 16:13:20 Why? What do you care? 16:13:36 I care because I have written programs that use different thread pools. 16:13:46 Sure, but why? 16:14:14 Because you may want to use different queueing policies for each. 16:15:15 -!- hkBst_ [~marijn@gentoo/developer/hkbst] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:17:19 cky: Why do you not care about allocating your own memory pools then? 16:17:35 -!- leo2007 [~leo@123.114.37.220] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 16:17:38 drdo: Actually, I do...when I'm writing a Scheme implementation. 16:17:50 exactly, that's my point 16:18:12 It's the same thing with threads 16:18:26 If only. 16:18:45 Anyway. 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I noticed in eq?'s description, it says that (let ((p (lambda (x) x))) (eq? p p)) is #t, but that eq? is stipulated to identical behaviour to eqv? for procedures. 23:10:31 For eqv?, that same expression is unspecified. 23:10:55 So, at least one of those three statements is false. 23:12:30 *klutometis* senses a liar paradox coming. 23:13:18 Pretty much. ;-) But who's the liar? 23:13:18 *qu1j0t3* hides behind the sofa 23:13:53 airolson [~airolson@CPE00222d55a738-CM00222d55a735.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #scheme 23:14:23 the sofa ? 23:14:26 lol 23:15:06 *wbooze* tries to be diplomatic! 23:15:13 wbooze: the couch, yes. 23:15:18 wbooze: i think it's safe? 23:19:24 leo2007 [~leo@123.123.251.72] has joined #scheme 23:26:27 tuubow [~adityavit@c-69-136-105-164.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 23:31:38 -!- kuribas [~user@d54C43316.access.telenet.be] has quit [Quit: ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)] 23:33:05 -!- X-Scale [email@sgi-ultra64.broker.freenet6.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 23:33:14 -!- airolson [~airolson@CPE00222d55a738-CM00222d55a735.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [] 23:34:35 -!- SeanTAllen [u4855@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-heuhxrolevasymsj] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:36:14 X-Scale [email@2001:5c0:1000:b::9eff] has joined #scheme 23:36:27 -!- X-Scale is now known as Guest14989 23:37:09 tyrion-mx [~tyrion@93-45-92-131.ip101.fastwebnet.it] has joined #scheme 23:44:10 jt123 [~jayan@cpc4-lutn3-0-0-cust768.9-3.cable.virginmedia.com] has joined #scheme 23:47:34 SeanTAllen [u4855@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ngnghvhvsifivfkr] has joined #scheme 23:55:21 *offby1* lies on the sofa