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03:08:03 instead of lambda use (letrec ((foo )) foo) 03:13:55 -!- wingo [~wingo@184.174.165.119] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 03:14:42 -!- rostayob [~rostayob@93-40-136-80.ip39.fastwebnet.it] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.3.5] 03:16:07 tom_i [~thomasing@ingserv.demon.co.uk] has joined #scheme 03:18:55 jrapdx [~jra@c-76-105-198-230.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 03:19:36 brendn [~brendyn@123-2-73-61.static.dsl.dodo.com.au] has joined #scheme 03:20:43 -!- tom_i [~thomasing@ingserv.demon.co.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 03:21:10 -!- MichaelRaskin [~MichaelRa@195.91.224.225] has left #scheme 03:29:06 -!- amoe [~amoe@host-78-147-107-99.as13285.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:33:10 and i recur with foo? 03:34:04 right, though better names are available 03:34:12 amoe [~amoe@host-78-147-107-99.as13285.net] has joined #scheme 03:36:13 For only $6.95, you can use `bar' instead, and the deluxe edition of `baz' -- when you really need that other name -- costs only $173.50! 03:36:59 -!- Operaist2 [~OperaIst@ppp-110-168-70-179.revip5.asianet.co.th] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:37:52 can I get a discount on greek letters if I buy them as a set? 03:39:51 -!- turbofail [~user@c-107-3-149-149.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 03:40:25 Yes, but the discount is only available to residents of the United States, Azerbaijan, and Uzbekistan, and you must sign the standard 700-page boilerplate legal document in order to be eligible. 03:43:53 Operaist2 [~OperaIst@ppp-110-168-70-179.revip5.asianet.co.th] has joined #scheme 03:44:23 do i use foo as the recur name? 03:46:25 same way as you usually do e.g. (letrec ((factorial (lambda (x) (if (zero? x) 1 (* x (factorial (sub1 x))))))) factorial) 03:46:44 -!- leo2007 [~leo@119.255.41.67] has quit [Quit: rcirc on GNU Emacs 23.3.50.1] 03:49:15 -!- joyfulgirl [~ivy@unaffiliated/joyfulgirl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:55:14 is there a way for me to use map to get a list of all the leaves inside a tree with lambda and no recursion? 03:57:41 -!- brendn [~brendyn@123-2-73-61.static.dsl.dodo.com.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 04:03:25 MichaelRaskin [~MichaelRa@195.178.216.22] has joined #scheme 04:16:55 jonrafkind [~jon@jonr5.dsl.xmission.com] has joined #scheme 04:22:00 -!- chromaticwt [~user@67-41-15-81.albq.qwest.net] has quit [Quit: ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)] 04:24:31 turbofail [~user@99-121-57-65.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net] has joined #scheme 04:26:18 I'd be surprised 04:31:35 -!- confab [~win7@c-71-193-9-153.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 04:42:01 dnolen [~davidnole@cpe-98-14-92-234.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #scheme 04:42:17 -!- r\x00t [~r\x00t@modemcable136.81-177-173.mc.videotron.ca] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 04:43:11 annodomini [~lambda@c-76-23-156-75.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 04:43:11 -!- annodomini [~lambda@c-76-23-156-75.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Changing host] 04:43:11 annodomini [~lambda@wikipedia/lambda] has joined #scheme 04:46:29 -!- jao [~user@pdpc/supporter/professional/jao] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 04:49:48 leo2007 [~leo@119.255.41.67] has joined #scheme 04:51:24 Wow, no discount for Greek users on their own letters. 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I'm struggling to understand this. You can place a function pointer in a C variable, and I thought Scheme procedures were just a pair of pointers (the closure), so what's different here? 16:54:45 MichaelRaskin [~MichaelRa@195.91.224.225] has joined #scheme 16:55:23 eulyix: you cannot create a function value, for example. you can only refer statically to them. 16:56:43 qu1j0t3, is that statically as in, only as "compile time"? 16:56:54 you cannot create new function pointers at runtime, yes. 16:57:21 Ah, that perspective was not made clear. Thank you. 16:58:13 isn't it more a matter that you can't define new functions at runtime, but can create any number of pointers to existing functions? 16:58:26 that's pretty much what I was trying to say, penryu 16:58:39 *penryu* is still learning the finer points of C/C++ and wants to make sure he's not ... ok. thanks. 17:01:03 the language was kind of ambiguous.) 17:01:43 -!- drdo [~drdo@drdo.eu] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 17:12:09 joyfulgirl [~ivy@209-6-79-248.c3-0.abr-ubr1.sbo-abr.ma.cable.rcn.com] has joined #scheme 17:12:16 -!- joyfulgirl [~ivy@209-6-79-248.c3-0.abr-ubr1.sbo-abr.ma.cable.rcn.com] has quit [Changing host] 17:12:16 joyfulgirl [~ivy@unaffiliated/joyfulgirl] has joined #scheme 17:15:12 kk` [~kk@77.107.164.131] has joined #scheme 17:15:12 -!- kk` [~kk@77.107.164.131] has quit [Changing host] 17:15:12 kk` [~kk@unaffiliated/kk/x-5380134] has joined #scheme 17:45:54 freakazoid [~seanl@out-mpk.corp.tfbnw.net] has joined #scheme 17:46:43 drdo [~drdo@drdo.eu] has joined #scheme 17:48:01 _schulte_ [~eschulte@c-174-56-1-147.hsd1.nm.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 17:50:50 -!- turbofail [~user@99-121-57-65.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 17:52:33 -!- rostayob [~rostayob@93-40-136-80.ip39.fastwebnet.it] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.3.5] 17:55:57 tah [~tah@28.137.133.27.ap.yournet.ne.jp] has joined #scheme 17:56:29 -!- _schulte_ [~eschulte@c-174-56-1-147.hsd1.nm.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: No route to host] 17:56:35 _schulte_ [~eschulte@c-174-56-1-147.hsd1.nm.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 17:57:21 Cosman246 [~cosman246@64.134.188.7] has joined #scheme 17:57:26 stis [~stis@1-1-1-39a.veo.vs.bostream.se] has joined #scheme 17:57:32 pjb- [~t@81.202.16.46.dyn.user.ono.com] has joined #scheme 17:58:47 rostayob [~rostayob@93-40-136-80.ip39.fastwebnet.it] has joined #scheme 18:00:06 -!- drdo [~drdo@drdo.eu] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 18:01:08 -!- markskilbeck [~markskilb@unaffiliated/markskilbeck] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:01:41 markskilbeck [~markskilb@host86-133-64-229.range86-133.btcentralplus.com] has joined #scheme 18:01:54 -!- markskilbeck [~markskilb@host86-133-64-229.range86-133.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Changing host] 18:01:54 markskilbeck [~markskilb@unaffiliated/markskilbeck] has joined #scheme 18:02:59 -!- tom_i [~thomasing@ingserv.demon.co.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 18:04:18 -!- rostayob [~rostayob@93-40-136-80.ip39.fastwebnet.it] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.3.5] 18:04:25 tom_i [~thomasing@ingserv.demon.co.uk] has joined #scheme 18:04:32 -!- tah [~tah@28.137.133.27.ap.yournet.ne.jp] has quit [Quit: Lähdössä] 18:04:37 tah [~tah@28.137.133.27.ap.yournet.ne.jp] has joined #scheme 18:06:19 Hm, my lecture notes also say that Scheme has *explicit* pointers. I realise that mostly everything in Scheme is pointer to some heap value, but I thought dereferencing was always implicit, when are pointers explicit in Scheme? 18:08:25 I can't see that this is true. 18:08:38 Me neither :( 18:08:39 sounds like a little mistake in the notes :) 18:10:34 Yeah, thanks qu1j0t3. 18:10:52 -!- jrapdx [~jra@c-76-105-198-230.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 18:11:03 -!- tah [~tah@28.137.133.27.ap.yournet.ne.jp] has quit [Quit: Lähdössä] 18:11:47 I see that you can emulate the semantics of pointers in Scheme, but I think that's a much weaker statement than my lecture notes saying Scheme has explicit pointers. 18:17:52 mytoh [~mytoh@28.137.133.27.ap.yournet.ne.jp] has joined #scheme 18:18:57 -!- mytoh [~mytoh@28.137.133.27.ap.yournet.ne.jp] has quit [Client Quit] 18:20:00 -!- X-Scale is now known as X-Scale- 18:20:38 ijp [~user@host86-169-200-186.range86-169.btcentralplus.com] has joined #scheme 18:20:58 Why would anyone begin a discussion on Scheme with pointers? SICP doesn't even mention them until an obscure footnote in 2.2: . 18:20:59 http://tinyurl.com/7ctu5h4 18:21:11 mytoh [~mytoh@28.137.133.27.ap.yournet.ne.jp] has joined #scheme 18:21:57 Extra-Schemedom is so fucking weird, sometimes. 18:23:19 klutometis: +1 18:27:11 qu1j0t3: Heh. 18:31:25 -!- tom_i [~thomasing@ingserv.demon.co.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 18:35:36 djcb [~user@a88-112-255-94.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #scheme 18:36:29 cmatei [~cmatei@95.76.22.68] has joined #scheme 18:38:42 -!- mytoh [~mytoh@28.137.133.27.ap.yournet.ne.jp] has quit [Quit: leaving] 18:44:50 klutometis, we didn't being a discussion on Scheme with pointers, it was just a comparison of languages. 18:45:07 right but pointers are a weird thing to mention 18:45:12 unless you are coming from C/C++ world 18:45:13 (as it turns out, a rather crappy one) 18:45:47 qu1j0t3, the weird thing is, the only knowledge the course assumed was that of Java o_O 18:45:50 hehehe 18:46:29 -!- confab [~win7@c-71-193-9-153.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:47:15 qu1j0t3, not weird in comparing languages, just weird to mention Scheme whilst comparing pointers :) 18:47:50 He also said ML has explicit pointers, which while easier to understand, still isn't quite right >.> 18:48:25 Well, as best misleading. 18:48:39 *at 18:48:54 mytoh [~kazuki@28.137.133.27.ap.yournet.ne.jp] has joined #scheme 18:50:00 eulyix: right, that's equally odd to me 18:50:04 oh well 18:50:18 rostayob [~rostayob@93-40-136-80.ip39.fastwebnet.it] has joined #scheme 18:52:08 Hm, "This also has to do with what you mean by "pointer." I use the word to mean pointers in the sense of building pointer-linked data structures. (Scheme clearly has those.)" 18:52:15 I guess that's the interpretation. 18:52:35 That's from An Introduction to Scheme and its Implementation 18:53:05 Hardly explicit though... (not from that book!) 18:53:33 (I mean that book didn't confuse me, my lecturer did) 18:54:19 right, explicit is the problematic word. 18:54:25 and so is 'pointers' really. 18:54:40 doesn't java call them references? 18:54:53 pointers is too overloaded with C/C++ meaning 18:54:59 My current experiences with programming language principles is that the vocabulary is horribly ambiguous :( 18:55:04 yes 18:55:08 qu1j0t3, yes, Java call them references 18:55:10 juiceman5000 [~jleclair@blackholewan-gw-136.iexposure.com] has joined #scheme 18:55:28 is it a course on functional programming? 18:55:36 Though of course, you don't "pass by reference" in Java, ever. Yet another confusing choice of words. 18:55:41 for those new to it, FP takes a bit of a gentle intro. there are some nice books for this. 18:55:48 eulyix: right. 18:55:56 qu1j0t3, no, just PL's in general. It's called "Principles of Programming Languages" 18:56:01 a lot of ground... 18:56:07 yes :) 18:56:28 Half of it just talks about concurrency as well. o_O 18:56:40 *qu1j0t3* opens a can of concurrent worms 18:57:06 Alright. I have a gripe. I've looked up 10 scheme tutorials, and they all explain the mechanics, but they don't explain the why or the applicablitity of it, nor how to use Scheme anywhere past the interpreter... Does anybody know a tutorial that can demonstrate the language, and not just the syntax/form? 18:57:43 juiceman5000, this is quite fun: http://docs.racket-lang.org/continue/ 18:57:56 Also, the Scheme Cookbook 18:57:57 I'm specifically interested in writing some language heuristics/trending software which led me naturally to LISP/Scheme 18:58:09 eulyix: ty! 18:58:59 SICP also has lots of interesting examples imo. 19:00:04 Since you mentioned Lisp, there's Practical Common Lisp and On Lisp, both quite "practical" and available for free IIRC. 19:00:59 -!- kniu [~kniu@pool-71-106-0-41.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:02:07 juiceman50001 [~jleclair@blackholewan-gw-136.iexposure.com] has joined #scheme 19:02:44 juiceman5000: Abelson and Eichenberg "Programming in Scheme" goes through the construction of medium sized programs, but it is designed to teach the language from zero 19:04:38 -!- stepnem [~stepnem@176.119.broadband10.iol.cz] has quit [Read error: No route to host] 19:05:31 -!- juiceman5000 [~jleclair@blackholewan-gw-136.iexposure.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 19:06:52 stepnem [~stepnem@176.119.broadband10.iol.cz] has joined #scheme 19:07:33 I'm told to stick with Scheme; i've been told that is more modular and somewhat simpler in usage, and as a new entrant it's better for me (not explained why thoug :/ ... 19:08:12 eulyix: SICP; I'm loving it. it's already explained in 3 subchapters more about what the language is for than the 5 previous entire tutorials i've been through 19:08:51 ty guys! 19:08:53 -!- juiceman50001 [~jleclair@blackholewan-gw-136.iexposure.com] has left #scheme 19:15:38 jonrafkind [~jon@crystalis.cs.utah.edu] has joined #scheme 19:38:28 -!- pjb- [~t@81.202.16.46.dyn.user.ono.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 19:40:47 jcowan [~John@p-209-105-143-209.dsl1.rtr.chat.fpma.frpt.net] has joined #scheme 19:40:49 dzhus [~sphinx@95-25-54-17.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #scheme 19:42:14 hoi 19:42:25 MrFahrenheit [~RageOfTho@users-60-99.vinet.ba] has joined #scheme 19:44:18 ahoi jcowan 19:45:44 I've been playing about with Owl Lisp, a pure functional R5RS subset, and pestering the author to actually make it such a subset. 19:47:33 turbofail [~user@c-107-3-149-149.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 19:50:00 chromaticwt [~user@67-41-15-81.albq.qwest.net] has joined #scheme 19:50:26 Anyone want to critique my code? At t Options Buffers Tools ERC Help use of 19:50:28 tauntaun on #racket (+ct,lag:0) Racket -- http://racket-lang.org -- |tauntaun on #scheme (+cnt,lag:0) (map surf-to '("http://paste.lisp.org/ 19:50:29 53809:22 *** Users on #racket: keenbug sindoc acarrico Shvillr |547 explained in 3 subchapters more about what the language is fo\ 19:51:01 There is no curse word for what just happened. 19:51:05 jcowan: owl lisp? 19:51:09 So let me try again. 19:51:47 Would anyone like to critique my code? At https://gist.github.com/1511569 I use syntax-rules to implement 'for' (list comprehension). Thanks in advance for any feedback. 19:52:05 jao [~user@pdpc/supporter/professional/jao] has joined #scheme 19:52:43 C-Keen: http://code.google.com/p/owl-lisp/ 19:53:23 copumpki_ [~pumpkin@host88-63-dynamic.17-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #scheme 19:54:07 -!- copumpkin [~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 19:54:46 jcowan: interesting, I wonder how continuations are serilaized 19:56:59 jcowan: how's the compilation speed? Last time I tried it, it took forever 19:57:30 Yeah, it's the C compiler that's so slow. Perhaps one ought to try using something other than gcc. 19:59:33 Also, when you build the system, "make" iterates until it reaches a fixed point, which for me typically takes about five passes. 20:01:24 -!- copumpki_ is now known as copumpkin 20:01:24 -!- copumpkin [~pumpkin@host88-63-dynamic.17-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Changing host] 20:01:24 copumpkin [~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod] has joined #scheme 20:03:58 jcowan, thanks a lot for pestering :) 20:04:18 Ah, there you are. You're welcome. 20:05:03 i've been meaning to start a r[57]rs compatibility round for ages. external motivation helps 20:06:08 I haven't been bothering you much about R7RS, but it would certainly be good to have a second implementation. 20:06:23 ijp, the first compile can take a few minutes. newer gcc:s also have some optimization that cause a ton of memory to be allocated during the compile :( 20:07:18 jcowan, there is now a growing battery of r5rs tests at http://haltp.org/aoh/owl/owl-lisp/tests/r5rs.scm 20:07:29 similar planned for r7rs. it looks pretty sweet so far imo. 20:07:35 Do you actually depend on gcc, or would clang, lcc, etc. probably work as well? 20:07:52 clang usually works better 20:08:25 but the real solution is to just write C that isn't so hard to compile :) 20:08:45 s/write/generate/ 20:09:05 pjb, true 20:22:19 aoh: how much owl-lisp specific stuff is there in radamsa? 20:24:32 oic 20:24:38 mcm 20:28:07 ijp, the current one is mainly single-threaded, so a ~200-line compat-library would probably do 20:30:29 on second thought, there is the command line argument parser, random generator, red-black trees, etc which one would have to have in Scheme... 20:30:57 -!- annodomini [~lambda@wikipedia/lambda] has quit [Quit: annodomini] 20:34:34 bytbox [~s@96.26.105.154] has joined #scheme 20:36:30 *jcowan* takes the opportunity to whine publicly about how finite functions otta be invokable, just like procedures defined by lambda.... 20:40:10 annodomini [~lambda@c-76-23-156-75.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 20:40:10 -!- annodomini [~lambda@c-76-23-156-75.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Changing host] 20:40:10 annodomini [~lambda@wikipedia/lambda] has joined #scheme 20:41:09 -!- stis [~stis@1-1-1-39a.veo.vs.bostream.se] has left #scheme 20:41:11 here we go again... :) 20:41:19 *jcowan* chuckles. 20:43:42 doesn't seem to be on the net anymore, but one lazy purely functional toy lisp had ((cons 1 2) (lambda (a b) a)) -> 1 20:43:55 why stop with one data type when you could go all the way? :) 20:43:55 -!- ThePawnBreak [~quassel@94.177.108.25] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:44:01 confab [~win7@c-71-193-9-153.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 20:49:33 -!- soveran [~soveran@186.19.214.247] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:52:25 drdo [~drdo@drdo.eu] has joined #scheme 20:55:46 jrapdx [~jra@74-95-41-205-Oregon.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has joined #scheme 20:58:55 -!- chromaticwt [~user@67-41-15-81.albq.qwest.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 21:00:08 chromati` [~user@67-41-15-81.albq.qwest.net] has joined #scheme 21:02:58 -!- mytoh [~kazuki@28.137.133.27.ap.yournet.ne.jp] has quit [Quit: leaving] 21:05:00 tom_i [~thomasing@ingserv.demon.co.uk] has joined #scheme 21:09:33 -!- tom_i [~thomasing@ingserv.demon.co.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 21:09:37 masm [~masm@2.80.159.152] has joined #scheme 21:13:10 ddp_ [~ddp@216.243.111.165] has joined #scheme 21:13:57 -!- Cosman246 [~cosman246@64.134.188.7] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 21:16:29 -!- ddp [~ddp@93.182.131.12] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 21:16:29 -!- ddp_ is now known as ddp 21:25:23 wingo [~wingo@184.174.165.119] has joined #scheme 21:31:07 Riastradh [~riastradh@fsf/member/riastradh] has joined #scheme 21:35:22 qu1j0t3, my lecturer appealed to set-cdr! and set-car! as directly manipulating "pointers" for justification in pointers being explicit in Scheme. I kinda buy that now :) 21:35:44 hm i see 21:35:46 For very limited use of the term "pointer" 21:35:51 what about ML then? 21:36:05 Yes, the question is how you define "pointer". 21:36:19 -!- jrapdx [~jra@74-95-41-205-Oregon.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:36:34 The moral of this story is that the lecturer should have defined what he meant by a pointer. 21:36:59 But at least I have some insight into why it appeared in my lecture notes! 21:37:22 eulyix: it's like saying that (+ 42 1) shows a direct manipulation of bits. 21:37:36 Yeah... 21:37:42 bits and numbers are not at the same level of abstraction. Neither are pointers and references to cons cells. 21:38:00 jrapdx [~jra@74-95-41-205-Oregon.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has joined #scheme 21:38:33 Good point. 21:40:47 -!- chromati` [~user@67-41-15-81.albq.qwest.net] has quit [Quit: ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)] 21:41:43 -!- gravicappa [~gravicapp@ppp91-77-162-143.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:42:11 pjb: I suppose, though, that SICP merges the two abstractions a bit when it uses the CONS diagrams, you explicitly see the arrows moving to different cells with calls to set-car! and set-cdr! 21:43:07 (Not saying "therefore it be right", just that it seems to be common pedagogical approach) 21:43:34 eulyix: yes, it tries to explain conses in terms of "pointers". 21:43:58 which is completely wrong in presence of cdr-coding... 21:44:12 chromaticwt [~user@67-41-15-81.albq.qwest.net] has joined #scheme 21:44:23 pjb: cdr-coding? 21:44:46 Cdr-coding is an obsolete hack to store lists more compactly in memory. 21:44:47 google for it. 21:46:22 Hm, that doesn't seem like a very good idea ^_^ 21:46:58 I see how the analogy falls down, though. :) 21:48:21 This just seems to be the same mistake has talking about a "memory address" rather than a "location" in general, since memory addresses are just one possible implementation of the more general notion of a "location". 21:48:41 samth [~samth@c-67-176-146-194.hsd1.in.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 21:50:35 good evening, schemers. 21:50:52 Hi. 21:54:55 hey ho, all 22:00:48 -!- metasyntax|work [~taylor@fw-its-kt209a-2.dyn.ipfw.edu] has quit [Quit: WeeChat [quit]] 22:02:01 snorble [~snorble@s83-191-238-172.cust.tele2.se] has joined #scheme 22:02:12 -!- annodomini [~lambda@wikipedia/lambda] has quit [Quit: annodomini] 22:02:31 -!- MichaelRaskin [~MichaelRa@195.91.224.225] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:05:45 soveran [~soveran@186.19.214.247] has joined #scheme 22:10:45 eulyix: i prefer to think of a CONS cell as a value not a location 22:11:08 -!- nome [~user@c-76-120-244-110.hsd1.va.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:11:08 It is a value containing two locations. 22:11:14 yes 22:11:24 but then 22:11:36 -!- masm [~masm@2.80.159.152] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 22:11:44 you can think of it as containing two values, too. the 'location/slot'-ness is exposed by set-car! and set-cdr! right? 22:11:48 Right. 22:11:59 In a pure functional subset, it is a value comprising two values. 22:12:10 an ordered pair. 22:12:33 Yes. 22:12:42 Agreed 22:13:12 But because (in full Scheme) it is made up of locations, each one is unique. (+ 1 4) and (+ 2 3) return the same 5, but (cons 'a 'b) and (cons 'a 'b) return different cons cells. 22:13:39 but you cannot know that via a value-equality test. 22:13:50 only a special form of equality that exposes the 'location'-ness 22:14:35 I don't understand the terminology, but from an implementation point of view, it makes sense. 22:15:48 *jcowan* nods. 22:21:04 pjb, I suppose your analogy-breaker about cdr-coding could be worked around by claiming that the implementations of set-car! and set-cdr! could abstract that implementation and provide the same "high-level view". 22:23:06 And I suppose on some architectures you could always view a memory location as a value containing two locations. 22:23:21 (segmented memory models) 22:23:28 hm 22:23:49 there's no need to 22:24:31 there doesn't need to be any hardware notion of composite values 22:24:42 Standard cdr-coding supported set-car! and set-cdr!, although in the worst case the cdr-coding would effectively reduce to standard cons cells. 22:25:06 Yeah 22:25:46 I'm finding this quite a slippery concept :) 22:26:52 Basically a cdr-coded cell has a full pointer to the car, and a 2-bit field encoding one of four states: "My cdr is in the next cell", "My cdr is NIL", "My cdr is pointed to by the next cell", "I am a cdr pointer". 22:27:49 Sorry, not the cdr-coding, I think I understand that, more the "are pointers explicit in scheme" thing. 22:28:08 annodomini [~lambda@wikipedia/lambda] has joined #scheme 22:29:08 They're certainly more fuliginous in Scheme than they are in C. :-) 22:29:18 jcowan, unless an architecture supports using the lower two bits in pointers for runtime information, doesn't that require an extra bitflipping instruction to be able to follow a pointer? 22:29:28 -!- drdo [~drdo@drdo.eu] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 22:30:24 eulyix, well, you never dereference pointers or perform arithmetic on them in scheme, so they're quite implicit, aren't they? 22:31:15 simon, they're certainly not "pointers" in that sense, no. That's the crux of this argument: For certain definitions of a "pointer" 22:31:36 simon: Historically, cdr-coded machines had more bits in a word than they had in a virtual address. 22:32:11 eulyix, ok. I might've walked in on the discussion. 22:32:52 Bleh, I'm just going to conclude that my lecturer was wrong about pointers being explicit in Scheme and move on. :) 22:32:58 :) 22:33:26 jcowan, I just remember from a compiler course that a lecturer suggested using the two lower bits for something in an object-oriented language. I don't remember what, but I thought it's got to imply a CPU cost and a minimal memory gain... but it is very elegant. 22:33:43 simon: many systems have used tagged points 22:33:45 ers 22:33:57 It is not uncommon to use the two low-order bits to code pointers vs. non-pointers. 22:33:59 simon: nowadays it's fashionable to use IEEE double has a container ;-) 22:34:18 -h 22:34:26 NaNboxing and nunboxing 22:35:59 qu1j0t3, for 32-bit pointers, or all kinds? 22:36:11 simon: all kinds. 22:36:18 qu1j0t3, why? 22:36:43 simon: convenience, i guess. there's a rationale floating around, perhaps for the mozilla javascript engine 22:36:57 simon: which is the hot area for such things 22:37:01 I seem to recall that Mozilla does it in a very silly way. 22:37:12 ...or it may be one of the other engines 22:37:18 I wonder if you'd want to call such a container uint64_t instead. 22:39:10 http://wingolog.org/archives/2011/05/18/value-representation-in-javascript-implementations 22:39:10 Or whatever engine it was I saw it in. 22:39:11 http://tinyurl.com/3eqtrqw 22:39:54 aha! the respectable wingolog 22:40:13 I like that site :) 22:40:20 simon: it's safe to do so because memory allocation is usually aligned to a certain number of bits 22:41:02 eulyix: wingo writes good accessible and intelligent posts. what's not to like ;-) 22:41:05 simon: so you know that any valid pointer has e.g. the last 3 bits all 0 22:41:37 qu1j0t3, heh, nothing? 22:42:36 *wingo* blushes :) 22:42:49 :) 22:43:25 ooh, did my scheme web server crash, is the question 22:43:41 -!- pranq [pranq@unaffiliated/contempt] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 22:43:45 *wingo* kicked it 22:43:50 yeah i noticed a problem... 22:44:30 yeah 22:44:35 pranq [pranq@unaffiliated/contempt] has joined #scheme 22:44:36 maybe the holidays is the time to fix it 22:45:27 eulyix: good link on the topic 22:50:04 -!- annodomini [~lambda@wikipedia/lambda] has quit [Quit: annodomini] 22:51:05 -!- preflex [~preflex@unaffiliated/mauke/bot/preflex] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 22:51:12 preflex_ [~preflex@unaffiliated/mauke/bot/preflex] has joined #scheme 22:51:59 -!- preflex_ is now known as preflex 22:52:04 -!- soveran [~soveran@186.19.214.247] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:52:37 -!- amoe [~amoe@host-78-147-107-99.as13285.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 22:52:57 I don't think n[au]nboxing makes much sense on 32-bit systems; in future, when all boxen are 64-bit, it may be the method of choice. 22:54:27 amoe [~amoe@host-78-147-172-200.as13285.net] has joined #scheme 22:54:55 boxing on the boxen 22:55:24 -!- teiresias [~teiresias@archlinux/trusteduser/teiresias] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 22:56:43 teiresias [~teiresias@archlinux/trusteduser/teiresias] has joined #scheme 22:57:28 -!- chromaticwt [~user@67-41-15-81.albq.qwest.net] has quit [Quit: ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)] 23:00:55 tuubow [~adityavit@NYUFGA-WLESSAUTHCLIENTS-01.NATPOOL.NYU.EDU] has joined #scheme 23:02:08 -!- MrFahrenheit [~RageOfTho@users-60-99.vinet.ba] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 23:03:49 -!- markskilbeck [~markskilb@unaffiliated/markskilbeck] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:14:24 -!- drwho [~drwho@c-68-81-125-196.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: reboot] 23:14:41 drwho [~drwho@c-68-81-125-196.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 23:22:17 -!- drwho [~drwho@c-68-81-125-196.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 23:23:08 drwho [~drwho@c-68-81-125-196.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 23:24:06 -!- freakazoid [~seanl@out-mpk.corp.tfbnw.net] has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 23:27:23 drdo [~drdo@drdo.eu] has joined #scheme 23:29:26 -!- samth [~samth@c-67-176-146-194.hsd1.in.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 23:30:21 HG` [~HG@dsbg-4db578b9.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #scheme 23:49:40 freakazoid [~seanl@out-mpk.corp.tfbnw.net] has joined #scheme 23:49:44 -!- ijp [~user@host86-169-200-186.range86-169.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: The garbage collector got me] 23:54:59 -!- jonrafkind [~jon@crystalis.cs.utah.edu] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out]