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seconds] 06:08:28 -!- tuubow [~adityavit@NYUFGA-WLESSAUTHCLIENTS-01.NATPOOL.NYU.EDU] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 06:08:51 tom_i [~thomasing@ingserv.demon.co.uk] has joined #scheme 06:09:34 -!- ddp [~ddp@216.243.111.165] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:09:50 ddp [~ddp@anon-132-148.relakks.com] has joined #scheme 06:16:28 tuubow [~adityavit@NYUFGA-WLESSAUTHCLIENTS-02.NATPOOL.NYU.EDU] has joined #scheme 06:31:28 gravicappa [~gravicapp@ppp91-77-191-149.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #scheme 06:37:34 Cosman246 [~cosman246@c-66-235-51-122.sea.wa.customer.broadstripe.net] has joined #scheme 06:51:03 hello 06:51:31 how can i use fold to deep-reverse a list (reverse a list and all sublists) 06:51:37 does it work? 06:54:13 -!- zlx_ [~zlx@60.2.199.169] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 06:54:46 -!- pygospa [~Pygosceli@kiel-5f77b3fb.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Disconnected by services] 06:54:56 pygospa [~Pygosceli@kiel-4d066b48.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #scheme 06:56:05 zlx [~zlx@60.2.199.172] has joined #scheme 06:56:51 Operaist2 : do you want to reverse a list of lists (of some kind of elements) ? 06:57:10 or maybe you want to reverse a list of lists of lists of lists of ... ? 06:59:13 -!- brendyn [~brendn@repo.parabolagnulinux.org] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.3.6] 07:01:08 i want to reverse a list and all the lists in that list 07:01:22 ok 07:01:39 the simplest is to (a) reverse the main list; and (b) reverse all the element lists 07:01:43 so (((1 2) 3) 4 5) -> (5 4(3(2 1))) 07:01:48 i think 07:01:58 well, that's not what you said :) 07:02:12 that is the "list of lists of lists of lists of ..." alternative, i think 07:03:09 the nice thing about recursion is you don't have to make the depth explicit :P 07:03:14 for the "list of lists" alternative (alt. "reverse a list and all the lists in that list"), it would be an error to try it on `(((1 2) 3) 4 5)', since `4' and `5' aren't lists 07:03:35 (unless you explicitly allow this, by e.g. saying to just keep them as is) 07:03:50 (and in that case, the answer would be `(5 4 (3 (1 2)))') 07:03:55 no what i mean is that 07:03:58 you reverse a list 07:04:03 and any and all lists in that list 07:04:23 i didn't say anything about every element must abe a list 07:04:27 ok, but `(1 2)' isn't a list element in `(((1 2) 3) 4 5)' 07:04:33 so why reverse it ? 07:04:49 Operaist2: yes, it works. you can do that. 07:05:07 (`(1 2)' is however a list element in a list element of `(((1 2) 3) 4 5)' -- namely of the `((1 2) 3)' list element -- but this is something different from what you said) 07:05:25 ski: do you DM? 07:05:37 *ski* has no idea what "DM" means in this context 07:05:55 D&D, Dungeon Master 07:06:02 Operaist2 : but yes, you can do both these two alternatives, with `fold' if you like 07:06:29 *ski* is just saying the the "reverse a list of lists" alternative is in practice more useful than the "reverse a list of lists of lists of lists of ..." alternatiev 07:07:19 pretty sure (1 2) is a list 07:07:24 penryu : hehe, for me, "DM" primarily refers to -- but no, i don't DM in the sense of e.g. D&D 07:07:27 otherwise my understanding is way off 07:07:48 Operaist2 : yes, but `(1 2)' isn't an *element* of `(((1 2) 3) 4 5)' 07:07:53 -!- gravicappa [~gravicapp@ppp91-77-191-149.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 07:08:02 when we say a "list of lists", we mean a list whose elements are lists 07:08:07 its an element of an element of 12345 07:08:13 no 07:08:35 yeah its an element of 123 which is an element of 12345 07:08:47 Operaist2: he's being admirably precise in analyzing what you _said_, full well knowing what you meant. 07:09:10 (sorry to have to be pedantic here, but) neither `123' nor `12345' are lists, they are numbers, and they don't have elements 07:09:14 though you do need to realize that you don't have a list of 12345 anywhere in this channel 07:09:44 ok when i said 12345 i meant (((1 2) 3 )4 5)) 07:09:47 as a short hand 07:09:49 ok 07:09:50 does that change anything 07:09:56 then `(1 2)' isn't an element of that 07:10:08 '(((1 2) 3) 4 5) is a list made up of a LIST, an ATOM, and an ATOM 07:10:21 it is an element of 123 [((12)23)] which is an element of 12345 [... 07:10:23 yeah, the elements of that list are 07:10:26 ((1 2) 3) 07:10:28 4 07:10:29 5 07:10:36 in which LIST is a list made up of a LIST and an ATOM 07:10:39 yeah so 12 is element of 123 which is element of 12345 07:10:45 -!- karswell [~coat@93-97-29-243.zone5.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 07:11:15 yes, but an element of an element isn't an element 07:11:20 Operaist2: do you by chance have any Perl in your history? 07:11:37 im not saying it is an element of 12345 07:11:46 (more precisely, if A is an element of B, and B an element of C, it doesn't follow that A is an element of C) 07:11:48 im saying its a list 07:11:55 yes 07:12:02 i never said its an element 07:12:09 for someone overly pedantic you sure are liberal with what i say 07:12:10 but when we say "list of Xs", we mean a list whose *elements* are "X"s 07:12:30 how about this 07:12:47 is a sublist of a sublist sublist? 07:13:02 -!- jonrafkind [~jon@jonr5.dsl.xmission.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 07:13:08 gravicappa [~gravicapp@ppp91-77-185-103.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #scheme 07:13:17 so, when you said "reverse a list of lists", you were talking about a list whose elements were lists. (you might not have *meant* this, but that's what is commonly understood as the meaning of what you said) 07:13:25 and presumably you wanted to reverse lists at both these two levels 07:13:44 Operaist2 : that depends on how you define "sublist" 07:14:13 i don't think people agree as much on how to define that (unqualified) as how to define "element (of list)" 07:14:35 Operaist2 : but yes, you could sensibly define that term to get what you're after 07:15:26 (other definitions would be "a tail of the list", "a contiguous segment of the list", "a selection of elements from the list, in order of appearance") 07:15:32 *penryu* suggests the Little Schemer 07:15:32 well per what you say "reverse a list of lists" i want to do that 07:15:54 slom [~sloma@port-87-234-239-162.static.qsc.de] has joined #scheme 07:15:59 + reverse all sublists of any level of sublist 07:16:08 ok 07:16:11 so, what should 07:16:21 (nestedly-reverse-list 42) 07:16:24 give ? 07:16:37 what is nestedly-reverse-list 07:17:03 it's supposed to be the name of the procedure implementing the function you want to define 07:17:11 (if you prefer some other name, that's fine) 07:17:12 it should give 42 07:17:15 yes 07:17:28 so, this should be the base case in your code 07:17:37 now, what other cases are there ? 07:17:48 if something is a list? 07:17:57 .. or maybe you already know how to write this, in a direct recursive way ? 07:18:02 yes 07:18:50 so, in case the input is a list, you need to figure out how to handle that case 07:19:02 you can, if you want to, handle this using `fold' 07:19:25 or you can use other handy list procedures e.g. from SRFI-1, or ones you have written yourself 07:21:02 *ski* hopes Operaist2 now has some basic idea to start coding from 07:22:03 well i tried it 07:22:06 but it didn't owrk 07:22:16 so i thought there might be some tricks to it 07:22:19 but perhaps not 07:27:18 well i cant use fold because reverse is done once 07:27:25 and fold is doing stuff for every element 07:27:29 so i have to reverse first 07:27:39 then check every element 07:27:44 but i dont know how to do that 07:27:47 so any ideas? 07:28:06 Operaist2: do you have to reverse it _before_ the fold? 07:28:13 hkBst [~marijn@79.170.210.172] has joined #scheme 07:28:14 -!- hkBst [~marijn@79.170.210.172] has quit [Changing host] 07:28:14 hkBst [~marijn@gentoo/developer/hkbst] has joined #scheme 07:29:44 no 07:29:46 but either way 07:30:27 you're folding a list, right? 07:30:37 what does the fold return? 07:33:28 araujo [~araujo@gentoo/developer/araujo] has joined #scheme 07:34:00 -!- tom_i [~thomasing@ingserv.demon.co.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 07:35:22 an application of some procedure to each element in the list? 07:36:17 that's what it does, yes. but what is the result of that successive reduction of the input list? 07:36:40 for example, if you input '(1 2 3), what do you expect it to return for that list? 07:39:11 depends on the procedure 07:39:31 your procedure, though 07:42:18 what was the question? 07:46:00 you want to write a function, which ski referred to as nestedly-reverse-list, which you want to recursively reverse all lists appearing in the structure 07:46:51 you expressed an interest in implementing this function using fold 07:48:18 perhaps it might be clearer if you implemented the function to reverse a single list using fold first. 07:49:21 i did that 07:50:44 then if your fold is performing the reverse, why do you need to reverse _and_ fold, as you seemed to say above? 07:51:09 i need to reverse the list then reverse every element of the list 07:51:14 so there are 2 parts 07:51:21 since fold does x to every element 07:51:28 i want to use that for part 2 07:51:41 but scheme doesn't seem to do 2 parts very well 07:51:47 everything has to be nested in everythingelse 07:52:36 ah, ok. well, fold uses a function to operate on a list one element at a time to return a new value. but you probably want another function that actually performs a single operation on each individual element 07:53:20 well, you could use `let' (or an internal `define') to first do the first step, giving a name to the result, then you could do the second step, based on that 07:54:17 wait sorry 07:54:29 haha oh wow i dont even know what im saying 07:54:55 fold does x to all element then uses the result for the next iteration 07:55:04 well, what you said above made sense to me, at least 07:55:27 i wouldnt need the result for the next iteration for just doing x to every element in a list 07:55:39 yes .. `map' is probably more suited to what you want here -- but you *can* use `fold' as well (and you seemed to want to do that) 07:55:40 so i owuld need a dummy function that discards the result for use in fold 07:55:52 or i could use map 07:56:17 yeah, `map' is probably simpler to use 07:56:19 your choice 07:56:43 man 07:56:51 i just learned about fold recently 07:56:55 so it was fresh in my mind 07:56:59 and i forgot about map 07:57:00 oh wow 07:57:35 so its just (map deep-reverse (reverse list))) 07:57:56 (btw, the idiomatic way to do this would be to nest things inside other things -- yeah like that :) -- but if you want to, you can give a name to the intermediate result) 07:59:00 btw, note that this is an interestin case of recursion, since you don't call yourself recursively *directly* -- instead you pass yourself to `map', which will call yourself recursively 07:59:24 i dont see how that is interesting 07:59:45 but i guess you maybe a third party recursion fetishist 08:01:29 BAM 08:01:32 working as intended 08:01:52 and short and simple too 08:02:02 its nice when you find a solution like this 08:03:06 yeah 08:11:38 -!- bwright [~bwright@c122-106-254-100.belrs3.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Quit: leaving] 08:17:59 snizzo_ [~Claudio@host85-237-dynamic.50-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #scheme 08:18:27 -!- snizzo [~Claudio@host162-237-dynamic.50-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 08:28:07 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(let ((x 1)) x) -> 1 11:00:16 i dont really understand your answer 11:00:21 sorry 11:02:08 usually one would say (let ((variable-name expression)) body) you switched it (at least for me) 11:02:26 oh 11:02:34 so its other way around 11:03:11 yes, see http://www.schemers.org/Documents/Standards/R5RS/HTML/r5rs-Z-H-7.html#%_idx_124 11:03:12 http://tinyurl.com/695ay7 11:09:44 brendn [~brendyn@123-2-73-61.static.dsl.dodo.com.au] has joined #scheme 11:11:00 -!- brendn is now known as brendyn 11:12:37 -!- vjacob [~vjacob@87.61.170.233] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 11:12:39 is a procedure on top of the code aware of procedures on the bottom? 11:13:27 -!- woonie [~woonie@nusnet-199-161.dynip.nus.edu.sg] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:14:44 -!- Operaist2 [~OperaIst@ppp-124-120-21-125.revip2.asianet.co.th] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.87 [Firefox 8.0/20111115184056]] 11:14:59 what's the sound of one clapping hand? 11:18:01 -!- amca [~amca@CPE-121-208-82-128.cqzr1.cha.bigpond.net.au] has quit [Quit: Farewell] 11:18:13 jrapdx [~jra@c-76-105-198-230.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 11:24:25 leo2007 [~leo@123.123.255.217] has joined #scheme 11:24:44 otakutomo [~otakutomo@KD027083117212.ppp-bb.dion.ne.jp] has joined #scheme 11:31:10 ThePawnBreak [~quassel@94.177.108.25] has joined #scheme 11:34:06 -!- tom_i [~thomasing@cmc.beaming.biz] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:34:18 tom_i [~thomasing@cmc.beaming.biz] has joined #scheme 11:35:47 -!- markskilbeck [~markskilb@unaffiliated/markskilbeck] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 11:37:18 rostayob [~rostayob@93-40-136-80.ip39.fastwebnet.it] has joined #scheme 11:58:38 -!- rjcks [~richard@220.174.162.158] has quit [Quit: leaving] 11:58:40 C-Keen, Kind of a dull fwap. 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[~soveran@186.19.214.247] has joined #scheme 15:31:04 How do you think buffering of stdout should work by default in a scheme? Buffered until you explicitly flush; automatically flushed but only on call to (newline); or automatically flushed whenever the line terminator is output? 15:31:29 stdout can be a terminal, a file, a pty, a socket. 15:31:31 etc. 15:32:00 pjb: yes, so it should work differently in each case? 15:32:31 Probably. But the programmer should use an explicit flush in all cases to be sure. 15:41:10 ernestas [~ernestas@ernestas.net] has joined #scheme 15:43:07 -!- MichaelRaskin [~MichaelRa@195.178.216.22] has left #scheme 15:45:44 amoe: Yeah, it's down to the implementation. In practice, you can assume line buffering when talking to users, but need to do explicit flushes when you might not be and it matters! 15:48:54 -!- Neban [~neban@45.Red-83-61-38.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Disconnected by services] 15:48:58 Neban [~neban@215.Red-83-42-45.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #scheme 15:49:18 alaricsp: how's relational-land? 15:49:38 alaricsp: I found this question amusing. http://www.quora.com/What-are-good-ways-to-maintain-referential-integrity-in-NoSql 15:49:39 http://tinyurl.com/7y2u5n4 15:50:27 qu1j0t3: It's squishy! 15:50:29 *alaricsp* looks 15:50:37 Hmmm, vague question 15:50:49 "NoSQL" is a vague concept, not a particular product or tool 15:51:12 So there's answers for particular products, and general theoretical answers as to how to handle that kind of thing in distributed systems :-) 15:52:20 Generally, to maintain general integrity constraints, you need a global consensus algorithm such as two-phase commit, where everyone (or a quorum) get a chance to look for potential conflicts and come with an answer in such a way that no two conflicting operations can ever both complete, even if they happen at the same time 15:52:25 Tends to kill your concurrency, though. 15:52:27 NEXT QUESTION! 15:52:54 Paxos is better than 2PC, in general - I can't remember if 2PC has any benefits over Paxos 15:54:02 freakazoid [~seanl@c-67-164-106-36.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 15:54:38 -!- ernestas [~ernestas@ernestas.net] has left #scheme 16:01:12 alaricsp: i think they're asking about simple maintenance of constraints, disregarding concurrency 16:01:18 priv_cooper [~priv_coop@c-24-15-4-172.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 16:01:30 s/maintenance/checking/ 16:01:41 Is there a definitive scheme code style guideline out there? 16:03:42 qu1j0t3: Well, if they're not talking about a distributed NoSQL database, then it's just up to how their chosen product works :-) 16:03:51 priv_cooper: Yes! Let me see if I can find it... 16:04:17 http://mumble.net/~campbell/scheme/style.txt is the one, I think 16:04:27 -!- slom [~sloma@port-87-234-239-162.static.qsc.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:04:28 alaricsp: yes. but I notice that a lot of ppl are asking "okay, now where is my baseline relational functionality gone, now that I've been told SQL is over?" 16:04:30 *qu1j0t3* giggles 16:04:42 alaricsp: the mess is only starting......... 16:05:07 alaricsp: picture an EAV schema stomping on a human face, forever...... ;-) 16:07:34 priv_cooper: in racket, the style guide is here: http://www.ccs.neu.edu/home/matthias/Style/style/ 16:10:14 Thanks all! :) 16:13:28 qu1j0t3: Quite. FOr some people, "NoSQL" is just all about a new *syntax*... 16:15:43 and reinventing everything under the hood 16:17:04 C-Keen: yes, in some tragic cases :) 16:17:14 -!- ahinki_ [~chatzilla@212.99.10.150] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.87 [Firefox 9.0/20111212185108]] 16:18:02 alaricsp: yes, it's like "at last a place i can run instead of learning the relational model and sql" 16:18:48 It's part of the Hype Cycle. 16:19:01 At first NoSQL was this amazing new thing clever kids did 16:19:21 Then it was a bandwagon companies were jumping on without understanding it, or with the most tenuous links at best, leading to polluting of the term and confusion 16:19:48 Now it's something that people are "expected" to try out, without any clear idea as to why, so they grope at it and try to fit it into their mental models 16:20:04 Not that NoSQL is *bad*; I think it's a great idea to re-assess our models of databases 16:20:19 But, y'know, hype cycle, all the crap comes flooding in too and you have to fish about to find good things ;-) 16:20:55 alaricsp: yes of course. but i'm noticing that people are using it as an escape hatch from doing proper models. and as C-Keen says, if they realise they actually *needed* constraints, relations, they have to reinvent them. 8-| 16:21:46 *qu1j0t3* puts the brakes on OT 16:24:27 kk` [~kk@77.107.164.131] has joined #scheme 16:24:27 -!- kk` [~kk@77.107.164.131] has quit [Changing host] 16:24:27 kk` [~kk@unaffiliated/kk/x-5380134] has joined #scheme 16:25:48 Yes, indeed 16:26:00 It's all part of the hype cycle 16:26:09 yes 16:26:17 Same thing happened with REST web services. "Wait, we need a session ID..." 16:26:31 alaricsp: :) 16:26:45 alaricsp: and "oh, this operation can't be synchronous..." 16:26:54 Exactly 16:27:14 Part of the hype cycle is that a technology is yanked out of its niche and thrust mercilessly into other niches 16:27:32 "It worked well in niche X! By the power of deduction I can therefore state that it will work well in niche Y! PASS ME THAT HAMMER!" 16:27:45 alaricsp: :) and interestingly this happened to RDBMS too 16:27:53 And UNIX! 16:28:02 And C and Java! 16:28:06 definitely 16:28:13 And the GUI! 16:28:17 :) 16:28:23 The list goes on ;-) 16:39:01 mmc [~michal@178-85-131-65.dynamic.upc.nl] has joined #scheme 16:45:29 -!- karswell [~coat@93-97-29-243.zone5.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:46:54 dnolen [aa95640a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.170.149.100.10] has joined #scheme 16:48:47 MichaelRaskin [~MichaelRa@195.91.224.225] has joined #scheme 16:51:31 tom_i [~thomasing@ingserv.demon.co.uk] has joined #scheme 16:57:59 stis [~stis@1-1-1-39a.veo.vs.bostream.se] has joined #scheme 16:58:09 -!- Neban [~neban@215.Red-83-42-45.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:00:07 Neban [~neban@245.Red-79-156-36.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #scheme 17:08:51 MrFahrenheit [~RageOfTho@users-151-202.vinet.ba] has joined #scheme 17:11:10 otakutomo 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