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Try "rudybot: help". 05:54:30 rudybot: brandy? 05:54:31 offby1: technically a fruit brandy 05:54:35 Oh, I see 05:55:07 egg nog? 05:55:14 eggnog? 05:55:18 rudybot: (gog magog) 05:55:18 offby1: your sandbox is ready 05:55:18 offby1: error: reference to an identifier before its definition: gog in module: 'program 05:55:33 rudybot: egg nog? 05:55:33 chromaticwt: egg nog 05:56:49 rudybot: (gog magog) 05:56:50 offby1: ; Value: (magog) 05:56:55 *offby1* rubs chin 05:57:00 rudybot: (gog gles) 05:57:00 offby1: ; Value: (gles) 05:57:03 rudybot: (gog gog) 05:57:03 offby1: ; Value: (gog) 05:57:05 what's up? 05:57:18 rudybot: (gog (+ 2 3)) 05:57:18 offby1: ; Value: ((+ 2 3)) 05:57:30 apparently "gog" means "echo". 05:57:37 It's like those bots have a different word for everything. 06:03:51 -!- pjb- [~t@81.202.16.46.dyn.user.ono.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 06:06:39 glog grog gnog gog 06:06:43 nog 06:06:47 wog 06:06:48 pg 06:06:50 pog 06:06:52 fog 06:06:56 tog 06:06:58 ok, i'm done 06:08:05 good. 06:12:06 jrapdx [~jra@c-76-105-198-230.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 06:20:09 -!- jrapdx [~jra@c-76-105-198-230.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:21:40 jrapdx [~jra@c-76-105-198-230.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 06:44:13 clear;ls -a 06:55:13 -!- freakazoid [~seanl@c-67-164-106-36.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 07:19:29 fantazo [~fantazo@178-190-236-188.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #scheme 07:21:42 Belaf [~campedel@net-2-32-163-227.cust.dsl.teletu.it] has joined #scheme 07:24:53 jewel [~jewel@196-209-248-92.dynamic.isadsl.co.za] has joined #scheme 07:27:21 -!- EmmanuelOga [~emmanuel@190.244.19.108] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 07:34:05 -!- bytbox [~s@129.2.129.231] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 07:54:37 -!- copumpkin [~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod] has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 07:57:01 tom_i [~thomasing@ingserv.demon.co.uk] has joined #scheme 08:00:19 -!- pygospa [~Pygosceli@kiel-5f7692be.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Disconnected by services] 08:00:29 pygospa [~Pygosceli@kiel-4dbed35d.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #scheme 08:27:57 -!- tom_i [~thomasing@ingserv.demon.co.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 08:40:16 -!- kilimanjaro [~kilimanja@unaffiliated/kilimanjaro] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 08:42:02 tom_i [~thomasing@ingserv.demon.co.uk] has joined #scheme 08:46:39 -!- chromaticwt [~user@67-41-15-81.albq.qwest.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 08:51:13 chromaticwt [~user@67-41-15-81.albq.qwest.net] has joined #scheme 08:55:46 MrBojangels [8255dbe6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.130.85.219.230] has joined #scheme 08:57:01 I'm sorry if this is a dumb question, but is it possible to define a lambda that has more than one argument? I'm trying: (define L2 (lambda (str1 str2)(if (string i get > (L2 "ba" "a") procedure application: expected procedure, given: "a" (no arguments) 08:58:52 MrBojangels: don't use (str1) (str2) but str1 str2 08:59:21 MrBojangels: (str1) puts the value of str1 in the operator position, but it's not a procedure 08:59:34 thanks 08:59:39 dumb mistake, sorry 08:59:51 MrBojangels: so it is trying to evaluate ("a" ...) which is not valid 08:59:57 MrBojangels: np 09:01:32 one more question, how do i build a circular list? where the last reference points to the beginning of the list? 09:03:22 is it possible? i googled it and found noting about circular lists in scheme 09:03:26 *nothing 09:03:41 you could use set-car! or set-cdr! 09:04:25 I tried, but i get reference to undefined identifier: set-car! 09:05:04 sounds like something is wrong with your scheme machine 09:05:34 I'm using MzScheme v4.2.4 09:09:26 Maybe that version number is after the racket people did away with mutable pairs 09:09:37 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seconds] 20:58:10 blackened [~blackened@ip-94-113-221-172.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #scheme 20:59:06 Belaf [~campedel@net-2-32-163-227.cust.dsl.teletu.it] has joined #scheme 21:01:04 -!- copumpkin [~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod] has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 21:07:07 -!- Belaf [~campedel@net-2-32-163-227.cust.dsl.teletu.it] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 21:11:46 Is there something like slime for Guile? 21:11:51 geiser! 21:11:53 Belaf [~campedel@net-2-32-163-227.cust.dsl.teletu.it] has joined #scheme 21:11:53 very slick. 21:11:57 works with racket too. 21:12:05 geiser? 21:12:07 yep 21:12:09 *add^_* looks it up 21:12:15 *offby1* waits patiently 21:13:00 Nice! 21:13:09 Thanks! :-D 21:15:06 Hm. 21:15:14 ccorn [~ccorn@g132123.upc-g.chello.nl] has joined #scheme 21:15:31 Either this will work or I'll have to prematurely set up my GNU/Linux system... again. 21:15:41 whatcha using now? 21:15:47 Windows :-S 21:16:00 it might work. 21:16:06 I should be using kubuntu or something but right now I don't have any space for gnu/linux 21:16:08 jao, the author, is pretty good 21:16:16 I'm getting a spare HDD soon though. 21:16:20 rudybot: seen jao 21:16:23 offby1: jao was seen joining in #scheme five days ago, and then jao was seen quitting in pdpc/supporter/professional/jao three days ago, saying "Ping timeout: 248 seconds" 21:16:37 :-) 21:16:56 -!- kuribas [~user@94-227-37-171.access.telenet.be] has quit [Quit: ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)] 21:17:11 crap.. 21:17:13 Well 21:17:20 *add^_* tries on his mac 21:17:22 :-P 21:17:58 Although that wont do me any good since what I'm going to play around with isn't on OSX 21:18:36 Doesn't exist for osx apparently.. 21:18:39 Oh well. 21:18:43 hard to believe. 21:18:46 *add^_* sighs 21:18:46 _very_ hard to believe. 21:18:52 Guile surely runs on OS X, yes? 21:19:10 ffs, I'm running gesier with racket on OS X at this very instant. 21:19:15 why, in this very emacs, in fact. 21:19:31 Well, it's not in the port archive. But maybe I have to compile it myself. 21:19:39 :-) 21:19:40 I think I used macports 21:19:59 oh wait, I don't have guile. But I'd be gobsmacked if it were hard to build 21:20:28 guile 1.8.7 is available in mac ports. But that's kinda old; I think 2.0 is out now 21:20:40 Yeah 21:20:42 -!- Nshag [user@chl45-1-88-123-84-8.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 21:20:51 -!- offby1 is now known as offby1_` 21:21:12 offby1 [~user@ec2-204-236-150-238.us-west-1.compute.amazonaws.com] has joined #scheme 21:21:28 -!- offby1_` [~user@pdpc/supporter/monthlybyte/offby1] has quit [Quit: ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)] 21:21:48 -!- offby1 [~user@ec2-204-236-150-238.us-west-1.compute.amazonaws.com] has quit [Changing host] 21:21:48 offby1 [~user@pdpc/supporter/monthlybyte/offby1] has joined #scheme 21:22:09 If I program something with guile in OS X, would I need it on Windows and GNU/Linux to then? I mean, guile. 21:22:52 Hmm.. 21:22:56 Nshag [user@chl45-1-88-123-84-8.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #scheme 21:23:09 Because it would be a hassle if that were the case. 21:23:24 Although quite logical. 21:23:52 Yes, a Guile program requires Guile to run. Just like a Python program requires Python to run, a Perl program requires Perl to run, &c. Guile is not (that) magical. ;-) 21:24:06 Hm.. 21:24:24 I think I just asked a really stupid question... 21:24:30 *add^_* laughs 21:25:11 I know self-packaging programs are like the holy grail. ;-) 21:25:55 Frequently, there are questions from botnet writers, etc., who want to be able to make a fully portable, packaged solution for distributing a Python-based IRC bot. :-P 21:26:09 *questions on Stack Overflow 21:26:32 -!- araujo [~araujo@190.73.44.29] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:26:48 araujo [~araujo@190.73.44.29] has joined #scheme 21:26:48 -!- araujo [~araujo@190.73.44.29] has quit [Changing host] 21:26:48 araujo [~araujo@gentoo/developer/araujo] has joined #scheme 21:28:57 -!- Belaf [~campedel@net-2-32-163-227.cust.dsl.teletu.it] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 21:29:06 eli [~eli@winooski.ccs.neu.edu] has joined #scheme 21:30:26 woot, I can't ./configure my guile.. 21:30:36 :-( 21:30:38 drwho [~drwho@c-68-81-125-196.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 21:30:48 This is starting to get annoying xD 21:31:04 Why can't you? 21:31:05 I think add^_ is asking "how portable are guile programs". To which I answer: fairly. 21:31:31 There's no "configure" file in the git repository 21:31:57 there is a configure.ac but that's apparently not it. 21:32:01 ah, you probably need autogen.sh 21:32:05 hm 21:32:17 nowhereman [~pierre@AStrasbourg-551-1-62-163.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #scheme 21:32:22 GNU projects rarely have "configure" in their repositories, since that file isn't strictly speaking source code 21:32:23 *add^_* installing 21:32:41 Haven't noticed that before. 21:32:54 hm, I don't seem to have guile unpacked anywhere 21:32:56 odd 21:33:10 Belaf [~campedel@net-2-32-163-227.cust.dsl.teletu.it] has joined #scheme 21:33:22 they usually have "autogen.sh" or some other shell script. Sometimes they don't have that at all, in which case you can just run "autoreconf" 21:33:57 There's an autogen.sh file there. 21:34:07 that'd be what you want, then 21:34:12 kk 21:34:15 it probably doesn't do much more than run autoreconf 21:34:44 Hm, nope. 21:34:49 Not much more anyway. 21:35:13 I should go back to using erc as my irc client, good times. 21:35:20 -!- drwho [~drwho@c-68-81-125-196.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has quit [Client Quit] 21:35:23 -!- nowhere_man [~pierre@AStrasbourg-551-1-49-8.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 21:37:02 offby1: have you heard about vsxu? (http://vsxu.com/) 21:37:18 drwho [~drwho@c-68-81-125-196.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 21:37:26 -!- kfb [~kevin@c-24-7-24-215.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 21:37:40 I figured I wanted to play around with it, not with c++ but guile. 21:37:54 It's a friend who's the main programmer. 21:38:10 I guess I'm giving him a little bit of advertising here :-S sorry. 21:40:06 never heard of it 21:40:50 It's not a "I use this everyday because of work" program, so it's understandable. 21:40:53 ;-) 21:40:58 can't say I have a pressing need to "realtime audio visualizations". 21:41:17 heh 21:41:46 -!- araujo [~araujo@gentoo/developer/araujo] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:41:47 I guess that's the common view of things. 21:42:38 ... 21:42:53 It doesn't found GMP although it's installed. *sigh* 21:43:35 add^_: Do you have the dev package installed? 21:43:42 e.g., libgmp3-dev, or the like. 21:43:53 Why does that matter? 21:44:01 Because you are compiling a program that uses it. 21:44:11 If you compile a program that uses libpng, say, then the dev package is required. 21:44:19 Without the dev package, then all you have is the runtime. 21:44:26 Hm ok 21:44:44 To be honest I read that as "mp3" 21:44:49 Hehehehe. 21:44:49 Not gmp-3 21:45:11 In particular, the runtime contains the .so only, whereas the dev package includes the header files, .a, etc. 21:45:27 "gmp @5.0.2 (devel, math) 21:45:27 GNU multiple precision arithmetic library" 21:45:39 That's what I have installed- 21:45:40 .* 21:45:40 add^_: Is this Cygwin? You need to have gmp-devel, then.) 21:45:50 This is OS X 21:45:53 Hmmm. 21:45:59 rff [~rff@ip72-207-248-18.br.br.cox.net] has joined #scheme 21:46:38 -!- dnolen [~davidnole@cpe-98-14-92-234.nyc.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: dnolen] 21:47:07 araujo [~araujo@190.73.44.29] has joined #scheme 21:47:07 -!- araujo [~araujo@190.73.44.29] has quit [Changing host] 21:47:07 araujo [~araujo@gentoo/developer/araujo] has joined #scheme 21:47:38 Okay, look for /usr/include/gmp.h 21:47:43 If you have it, then you should be good to go. 21:47:49 -!- araujo [~araujo@gentoo/developer/araujo] has quit [Client Quit] 21:48:02 Hm, I don't have it. 21:48:10 You should find a package that installs that. 21:48:17 Ok. 21:49:26 -!- Belaf [~campedel@net-2-32-163-227.cust.dsl.teletu.it] has quit [Read error: Connection timed out] 21:50:46 -!- evhan_ is now known as evhan 21:51:14 BW^- [~Miranda@92.81.183.220] has joined #scheme 21:51:33 re-checked out history of the 80:ies lisp workstation company symbolics. 21:51:51 -!- evhan [~evhan@thunktastic.com] has quit [Changing host] 21:51:51 evhan [~evhan@pdpc/supporter/active/evhan] has joined #scheme 21:52:32 interesting things: * they had a 3d computer graphics division, making tools and animation based on their workstation. "Stanley & Stella in Breaking the Ice" from 1987 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3bTqWsVqyzE is really nice made by them, maybe the peak of their production. furthermore http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o81pOW72AWg 21:52:53 they registered the world's first .com domain name, 15 march 1985 21:53:20 ..and made a hypertext reader for manuals, inviting the bookmark button, and they made some kind of UI editor, the CL interface manager 21:54:13 they did all kinds of hardware manufacturing; higher res screens, laser printers, and so on. 21:54:24 at their peak they were a bit more than 1000 employees. 21:54:26 phax [~phax@unaffiliated/phax] has joined #scheme 21:54:27 annodomini [~lambda@2001:470:1f07:189:a515:f5bb:4818:3884] has joined #scheme 21:54:27 -!- annodomini [~lambda@2001:470:1f07:189:a515:f5bb:4818:3884] has quit [Changing host] 21:54:27 annodomini [~lambda@wikipedia/lambda] has joined #scheme 22:00:35 Argh. 22:06:58 haha, autogen depends on guile so I can't uninstall it... 22:07:30 ah w/e I'll just uninstall that too.. 22:09:07 I don't understand why gmp keeps getting an error while "make"ing.. 22:09:18 -!- woonie [~woonie@nusnet-228-5.dynip.nus.edu.sg] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 22:10:29 X-Scale [email@sgi-ultra64.broker.freenet6.net] has joined #scheme 22:25:13 -!- freakazoid [~seanl@c-67-164-106-36.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 22:26:46 -!- kk` [~kk@unaffiliated/kk/x-5380134] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:28:52 kk` [~kk@unaffiliated/kk/x-5380134] has joined #scheme 22:36:01 Belaf [~campedel@net-2-32-163-227.cust.dsl.teletu.it] has joined #scheme 22:38:58 'cuz software sucks 22:39:51 :-P 22:40:04 Can't get anything to work now. 22:40:53 airolson [~airolson@CPE00222d55a738-CM00222d55a735.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #scheme 22:41:24 araujo [~araujo@190.73.44.29] has joined #scheme 22:41:24 -!- araujo [~araujo@190.73.44.29] has quit [Changing host] 22:41:24 araujo [~araujo@gentoo/developer/araujo] has joined #scheme 22:42:06 -!- gffa [~gffa@unaffiliated/gffa] has quit [Quit: sleep] 22:45:50 -!- confab [~win7@c-24-10-60-185.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Changing server] 22:46:07 add^_: svensk? :) 22:46:18 #scheme-sverje, heh. 22:46:21 BW^-: Japp 22:46:25 nice, varifrå? 22:46:45 Gbg 22:46:47 :-P 22:46:50 nice :) 22:46:58 Typ iaf, en liten förort dit. 22:47:14 gtg just nu.. vill du pinga mig på mail? är du här ngn annan dag? 22:47:14 We should speak English though 22:47:33 yp 22:47:43 Nah, but I'll be here another time. 22:47:52 Cya 22:47:57 super. bye. 22:48:00 -!- BW^- [~Miranda@92.81.183.220] has quit [Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org] 22:48:58 ... 22:51:59 *add^_* sighs 22:52:43 confab [~win7@c-24-10-60-185.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 22:56:20 kilimanjaro [~kilimanja@unaffiliated/kilimanjaro] has joined #scheme 22:57:29 add^_: another reason I prefer *nix -- my favorite software is typically easier to install on it 22:57:46 Yeah, usually. 22:58:02 But right now I'm having a hard time getting it to work. 22:58:09 `But, but, OS X _is_ *nix!' :-P 22:58:13 er 22:58:23 no it's unix ;-) 22:58:37 are you using some sorta packaging system? You should, if you can 22:58:44 Well 22:58:48 maybe guile has pre-built binaries -- that'd be easiest 22:59:03 Everything is installed already really, but guile is an old version.. 22:59:11 So I want to update it. 22:59:23 But it doesn't find gmp.. 22:59:29 Even though it's installed. 22:59:40 -!- ijp [~user@host86-169-103-208.range86-169.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: The garbage collector got me] 22:59:41 ugh 22:59:42 Obviously since Guile is also already installed. 22:59:54 And macports says it's installed too. 23:00:03 Soooooo... 23:00:10 I have no idea why it's making such a mess. 23:00:36 I'm trying to force find it by hardcoding in the path, but to no avail. 23:00:43 Uh, that sounded wrong. 23:01:01 I'm trying to help if find it by giving it a path, rather. 23:01:19 I'm not doing a good job though. 23:04:04 Hm 23:04:28 *add^_* is testing to change the configure file so that it's a hardcoded path to the file.. 23:04:54 hahahahahaha 23:04:57 It didn't work.. 23:04:58 lol 23:06:11 So, you have found gmp.h? 23:07:41 -!- ccorn [~ccorn@g132123.upc-g.chello.nl] has quit [Quit: ccorn] 23:07:50 It's in /opt/local/include 23:08:26 I don't know how to tell the ./configure that it's there though.. 23:08:31 Apparently. 23:08:38 -!- blackened [~blackened@ip-94-113-221-172.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Quit: blackened] 23:09:07 try ./configure --help 23:09:20 I think it should be something like ./configure -Lgmp /opt/local/include/gmp.h, or something like that. 23:09:33 I'm not really sure, though. Sorry. 23:09:55 -!- farnearer [~user@78-105-3-181.zone3.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 23:10:27 No worries, I'll try it. 23:10:33 Hm, no, that doesn't appear to work.. 23:11:28 configure: error: invalid value of canonical build 23:11:48 uh 23:11:54 I think I got that before though.. 23:12:31 What happens if I just remove gmp altogether? 23:12:33 with 23:12:51 --without-gmp-prefix 23:13:04 -!- otakutomo [~otakutomo@KD027083117212.ppp-bb.dion.ne.jp] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:13:19 otakutomo [~otakutomo@KD027083117212.ppp-bb.dion.ne.jp] has joined #scheme 23:13:40 --without-libgmp-prefix * 23:13:43 -!- homie [~levgue@xdsl-84-44-209-157.netcologne.de] has quit [Quit: ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)] 23:13:47 Nope, didn't work 23:14:30 Hm, maybe now? 23:14:46 Sorry for spamming this channel with my useless crap though.. 23:15:09 It's okay. There's also #guile 23:15:12 But without you guys I wouldn't have gotten this "far". 23:15:18 I wish I could be more helpful, but I suck. ;-) 23:15:24 Nah 23:15:35 ARGH 23:15:39 ... 23:17:46 Oh well, someday I'll get it! 23:19:22 Try asking in #guile or mailing the list. 23:19:51 annihilator [~rff@ip72-207-248-18.br.br.cox.net] has joined #scheme 23:20:18 Will try, thanks. 23:22:47 -!- rff [~rff@ip72-207-248-18.br.br.cox.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:27:24 teiresias [~teiresias@archlinux/trusteduser/teiresias] has joined #scheme 23:31:34 add^_: Oh, actually, I think you might want ./configure --with-libgmp-prefix=='/opt/local/include/' 23:31:46 hm 23:31:49 I'll try :-) 23:33:03 "checking for libgmp... no 23:33:03 configure: error: GNU MP 4.1 or greater not found, see README" 23:33:17 *add^_* sighs 23:33:28 Was worth a try. 23:34:56 Hrmph! 23:34:57 And noone in #guile is answering.. 23:39:33 Oh, wait. Try ./configure --with-libgmp-prefix='/opt/local/' 23:40:02 I think it might look for the include/ on its own (also, I had two =s before) 23:40:24 I tried with one "=", same result, will try this new thing though. 23:40:30 Hopefully it'll work :-) 23:40:49 I think that someone should definitely file a bug about ./configure --help, whatever happens. ;-) 23:40:59 yay 23:41:07 That worked? 23:41:11 Now I found out I need to install something else instead -.- 23:41:13 But yeah 23:41:21 Haha 23:41:55 Awesome, thanks man! 23:42:16 One step in the right direction ^^ 23:42:47 My pleasure, I like to see people using Guile. And I wasn't joking about the bug, I'll send an email to the mailing list about it. 23:43:16 Hm, ok. 23:43:21 :-) 23:43:40 Maybe I should subscribe to the mailinglist.. 23:43:58 I've only subscribed to one before, and that got really annoying after a while. 23:44:08 So I've kinda avoided them :-P 23:44:10 I'd recommend it, #guile can be a bit quiet. 23:44:21 Ah 23:44:52 Which mailinglist is it? 23:44:58 There seems to be quite a few.. 23:45:11 guile-user? 23:45:38 That seems to be the correct one anyway.. 23:45:48 Yeah, and bug-guile 23:46:18 There are too many mailing lists, but I think the plan is to consolidate down to those two. 23:46:29 Oh, and devel 23:46:43 But, you probably don't want that one (yet ;-)) 23:46:56 I'm off to bed now, though. Good luck guiling! o/ 23:46:56 -!- airolson [~airolson@CPE00222d55a738-CM00222d55a735.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [] 23:47:21 cya 23:52:16 dnolen [~davidnole@cpe-98-14-92-234.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #scheme 23:54:51 -!- amoe [~amoe@host-78-147-170-16.as13285.net] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 23:59:27 amoe [~amoe@host-78-147-175-246.as13285.net] has joined #scheme