00:04:17 wingo [~wingo@191.99.117.91.static.mundo-r.com] has joined #scheme 00:06:40 -!- mmc1 [~michal@178-85-131-65.dynamic.upc.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 00:10:12 is there a function that will tell me if a path is a directory or not? 00:10:52 airolson [~airolson@CPE00222d55a738-CM00222d55a735.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #scheme 00:11:22 not in the standard 00:11:59 your implementation surely has such a function tho 00:12:37 rudybot: doc directory-exists? 00:12:38 samth: http://docs.racket-lang.org/reference/Filesystem.html#(def._((quote._~23~25kernel)._directory-exists~3f)) 00:12:48 PfhorSlayer: try that 00:19:50 Nisstyre [~yours@infocalypse-net.info] has joined #scheme 00:20:08 -!- wingo [~wingo@191.99.117.91.static.mundo-r.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 00:22:54 realitygrill [~realitygr@adsl-76-226-129-72.dsl.sfldmi.sbcglobal.net] has joined #scheme 00:23:38 -!- annodomini [~lambda@wikipedia/lambda] has quit [Quit: annodomini] 00:32:26 replore_ [~replore@203.152.213.161.static.zoot.jp] has joined #scheme 00:38:35 -!- woonie [~woonie@nusnet-238-111.dynip.nus.edu.sg] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 00:45:39 -!- Blkt [~user@82.84.182.166] has quit [Quit: good night...] 00:52:19 -!- brandelune_ [~suzume@pl090.nas982.takamatsu.nttpc.ne.jp] has quit [Quit: brandelune_] 00:58:22 phax [~phax@unaffiliated/phax] has joined #scheme 01:05:51 -!- airolson [~airolson@CPE00222d55a738-CM00222d55a735.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [] 01:05:59 Thanks! 01:07:16 -!- gnomon [~gnomon@CPE0022158a8221-CM000f9f776f96.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 01:14:41 gnomon [~gnomon@CPE0022158a8221-CM000f9f776f96.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #scheme 01:23:02 -!- cmatei [~cmatei@95.76.22.68] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 01:30:11 -!- ijp [~user@host109-158-226-60.range109-158.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: The garbage collector got me] 01:32:35 -!- jonrafkind [~jon@crystalis.cs.utah.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 01:41:02 joyfulgirl [~ivy@209-6-79-248.c3-0.abr-ubr1.sbo-abr.ma.cable.rcn.com] has joined #scheme 01:41:09 -!- joyfulgirl [~ivy@209-6-79-248.c3-0.abr-ubr1.sbo-abr.ma.cable.rcn.com] has quit [Changing host] 01:41:09 joyfulgirl [~ivy@unaffiliated/joyfulgirl] has joined #scheme 01:41:35 -!- phax [~phax@unaffiliated/phax] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 01:43:19 dlila [~dlila@72.53.74.234] has joined #scheme 01:47:46 -!- samth is now known as samth_away 02:00:40 homie` [~levgue@xdsl-78-35-140-14.netcologne.de] has joined #scheme 02:02:35 -!- homie [~levgue@xdsl-87-79-195-126.netcologne.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 02:12:32 -!- gnomon [~gnomon@CPE0022158a8221-CM000f9f776f96.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 02:12:54 dnolen [~davidnole@cpe-98-14-92-234.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #scheme 02:14:46 gnomon [~gnomon@CPE0022158a8221-CM000f9f776f96.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #scheme 02:26:41 -!- masm [~masm@2.80.130.136] has left #scheme 02:32:58 ThePawnBreak [~quassel@94.177.108.25] has joined #scheme 02:35:09 -!- wisey [~Steven@host31-52-156-131.range31-52.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 02:36:00 -!- kniu [~kniu@pool-108-17-80-180.pitbpa.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 02:36:43 kniu [~kniu@pool-108-17-80-180.pitbpa.fios.verizon.net] has joined #scheme 02:38:12 -!- dlila [~dlila@72.53.74.234] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 02:39:30 -!- bytbox [~s@129.2.129.231] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 02:39:40 -!- dnolen [~davidnole@cpe-98-14-92-234.nyc.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:40:40 dnolen [~davidnole@cpe-98-14-92-234.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #scheme 02:41:31 bytbox [~s@129.2.129.231] has joined #scheme 02:42:52 hkuieagle [~hk@unaffiliated/hkuieagle] has joined #scheme 02:43:15 hi room. how to increase stack size in scheme? 02:43:43 pile more stuff on top of it 02:43:54 -!- Iceland_jack [~baldur@earth.sudo.is] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 02:44:06 I mean increase the memory size scheme can use 02:44:08 Iceland_jack [~baldur@earth.sudo.is] has joined #scheme 02:45:00 that's implementation-dependent 02:45:07 which implementation are you using? 02:45:09 also this isn't a "room" 02:45:17 pedant ;-) 02:45:19 freakazoid: guile 02:45:46 which guile? 02:46:04 hkuieagle: googling for guile stack size gives useful results. 02:46:04 Guile 1.8.7 02:46:06 "channel" is the preferred term 02:46:18 in particular, how to increase the default stack size 02:46:26 though if you're running out of stack space i suspect you're doing something wrong 02:46:27 turbofail: ok... 02:46:43 in particular, not using tail recursion somewhere you should be 02:47:13 or rather googling for guile increase stack size 02:47:59 freakazoid: no, it's special in my case. I need it to do more recursion. 02:48:14 why can't you use tail recursion? 02:48:24 then you won't need to use the stack 02:48:44 anyway debug-set! is probably what you want 02:48:54 freakazoid: because it's not as clear as direct recursion 02:49:02 ah 02:49:16 (debug-set! stack ...) 02:49:37 usually you can hide any ugliness 02:49:53 but then you have to know what the ugliness-hiding function or macro does 02:50:12 turbofail: I'll try that, thx 02:50:51 freakazoid: it's just a test case here, you can't understand untill you see it. ;p 02:50:56 ah, ok 02:52:23 clearly it's a traversal of a binary tree of depth 5000 02:52:50 heh 02:52:56 zippers to the rescue! 02:53:04 -!- joyfulgirl [~ivy@unaffiliated/joyfulgirl] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 02:53:33 not that a zipper would be clearer 02:53:46 just awesomer 02:58:23 githogori [~githogori@c-50-131-15-16.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 02:59:05 -!- kk` [~kk@unaffiliated/kk/x-5380134] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:03:07 -!- nego [~nego@c-76-16-30-244.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 03:13:02 -!- pygospa [~Pygosceli@kiel-4dbed35a.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Disconnected by services] 03:13:11 pygospa [~Pygosceli@kiel-5f7683a4.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #scheme 03:34:18 leo2007 [~leo@114.247.10.84] has joined #scheme 03:36:27 Operaist2 [~OperaIst@ppp-110-168-74-144.revip5.asianet.co.th] has joined #scheme 03:36:49 why is it when i define a prodecure without () the procedure is executed when i load the source file? 03:37:14 *offby1* stares blankly 03:37:34 Operaist2: probably because "defining a procedure without ()" doesn't actually define a procedure. 03:37:46 rudybot: (define (a-proc) "I am a procedure") 03:37:46 *offby1: Done. 03:37:49 rudybot: (a-proc) 03:37:50 *offby1: ; Value: "I am a procedure" 03:38:01 rudybot: (define not-a-proc "I am not a procedure") 03:38:02 *offby1: Done. 03:38:06 rudybot: not-a-proc 03:38:06 *offby1: ; Value: "I am not a procedure" 03:38:10 see? 03:38:31 rudybot: (not-a-proc) 03:38:31 *offby1: error: procedure application: expected procedure, given: "I am not a procedure" (no arguments) 03:38:36 rudybot: a-proc 03:38:36 *offby1: ; Value: # 03:39:02 then how come when oyu say not-a-proc 03:39:04 it does stuff 03:39:12 what does "does stuff" mean? 03:39:23 it says the value 03:39:25 of stuff 03:39:29 -!- leo2007 [~leo@114.247.10.84] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:39:29 thats doing stuff right there 03:39:35 that's because rudybot _always_ displays the value of expressions. 03:39:41 whether they're procedures or not. 03:41:53 i say (define do-stuff .....) 03:41:57 in my source 03:42:01 mmm hm 03:42:12 and when i load the source 03:42:13 stuff is done 03:42:16 indeed. 03:42:18 whats up with that? 03:42:26 well, you're not defining a procedure. 03:42:35 so what did you expect it to do -- totally ignore the ..... ? 03:42:51 ? 03:43:04 what? 03:43:07 rudybot: (define do-stuff (printf "Hey you~%") (let ([x (+ 3 2)]) (display x) (newline))) 03:43:07 *offby1: error: #:1:0: define: bad syntax (multiple expressions after identifier) in: (define do-stuff (printf "Hey you~%") (let ((x (+ 3 2))) (display x) (newline))) 03:43:10 it doesnt ignore ... it does ... 03:43:11 oops 03:43:16 rudybot: (define do-stuff (begin (printf "Hey you~%") (let ([x (+ 3 2)]) (display x) (newline)))) 03:43:16 *offby1: ; stdout: "Hey you\n5\n" 03:43:20 rudybot: do-stuff 03:43:20 *offby1: Done. 03:43:29 Operaist2: I'm guessing that's roughly what you're seeing. 03:43:50 yeah pretty much 03:43:52 ok 03:44:01 so why not try putting some () around do-stuff 03:44:13 i did 03:44:16 and it worked perfectly 03:44:19 ok 03:44:20 now im just curious whats up 03:44:22 ah 03:44:24 fair enough 03:44:50 well, (define (something) ...) defines a _procedure_ that, _when you invoke it_, runs the code in ... 03:44:52 whereas 03:45:18 (define something ...) simply evaluates ..., and assigne the resulting value to something, _right now_ 03:45:18 leo2007 [~leo@114.247.10.84] has joined #scheme 03:45:20 both are useful 03:45:29 this'll blow your mind 03:45:45 rudybot: (define do-stuff (lambda () "Hmm ... a procedure?")) 03:45:45 *offby1: Done. 03:45:48 rudybot: (do-stuff) 03:45:48 *offby1: ; Value: "Hmm ... a procedure?" 03:46:44 this is an incredibly important and fundamental thing, so you'd better find a way to understand it 03:47:31 -!- preflex [~preflex@unaffiliated/mauke/bot/preflex] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 03:48:49 preflex [~preflex@unaffiliated/mauke/bot/preflex] has joined #scheme 03:49:03 sorry that didn't blow my mid 03:49:06 mind* 03:49:11 ah well 03:49:28 but it's exactly equivalent to (define (do-stuff) "Hmm ... a procedure?") 03:53:53 -!- turbofail [~user@c-107-3-149-149.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 03:59:35 -!- leo2007 [~leo@114.247.10.84] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 04:06:34 -!- ravenexp [~a@mm-198-239-84-93.leased.line.mgts.by] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 04:15:30 jonrafkind [~jon@jonr5.dsl.xmission.com] has joined #scheme 04:27:26 yagnb [~yaaic@211.140.5.97] has joined #scheme 04:27:47 -!- yagnb [~yaaic@211.140.5.97] has quit [Client Quit] 04:50:02 -!- copumpkin [~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod] has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 04:52:43 -!- ThePawnBreak [~quassel@94.177.108.25] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 04:53:08 copumpkin [~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod] has joined #scheme 04:54:52 whats the placeholder you put inside a procedure? 05:04:39 -!- gnomon [~gnomon@CPE0022158a8221-CM000f9f776f96.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 05:06:31 not sure what you mean 05:06:41 Operaist2: do you mean parameters, aka arguments? 05:07:02 rudybot: (define (do-it-to-it victim) (format "Doing it to ~a~%" victim)) 05:07:02 *offby1: Done. 05:07:06 rudybot: (do-it-to-it 123) 05:07:06 *offby1: ; Value: "Doing it to 123\n" 05:07:11 rudybot: (do-it-to-it "Spare Parts") 05:07:12 *offby1: ; Value: "Doing it to Spare Parts\n" 05:07:22 rudybot: (do-it-to-it do-it-to-it) 05:07:22 *offby1: ; Value: "Doing it to #\n" 05:07:32 -!- EmmanuelOga [~emmanuel@190.244.19.108] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 05:10:09 -!- bytbox [~s@129.2.129.231] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 05:11:13 jb55 [~jb55@24.52.246.111] has joined #scheme 05:12:10 -!- rff [~rff@ip72-207-248-18.br.br.cox.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 05:12:16 bytbox [~s@129.2.129.231] has joined #scheme 05:12:34 im using mit/scheme 05:12:41 is there a way to get a better error output? 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has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:41:41 I'll remember the paragraph about formal-linguist (not the formal linguist, mind you!) forever. 10:41:52 *on parsers 10:42:12 whitequark: mind sharing the book's title? 10:43:00 rixed: I wish I knew. somehow the PDF omits the title page (and I guess that's why it is called "BookBody.pdf"). 10:46:12 this: http://books.google.ru/books?id=05xA_d5dSwAC&pg=PR9&lpg=PR9&dq=%22Parsing+(syntactic+analysis)+is+one+of+the+best+understood+branches+of+computer+science.%22&source=bl&ots=3NsubDndMf&sig=u6M1p1gB5Ig-2BI80JOcGgpK3Wk&hl=en&ei=ZAnWTuKHOIHqOar8vVQ&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CBkQ6AEwAA 10:46:34 Parsing Techniques: A Practical Guide 10:47:42 *alaricsp* loves parsers - there's something magical about them 10:47:52 OH PARSERS I LOVE YOU *KISS* 10:48:08 I just want to marry all of you lovely parsers. 10:49:48 nah, I doubt any of you will get the reference, but still: that book somehow reminds be about Lucky Star a lot. (alaricsp's utterances just enrich that resemblance somehow) 10:51:17 whitequark: the fonc guys (http://vpri.org/html/work/ifnct.htm) are doing interesting practical work on parsers. bootstrapping a syntax description language with itself, defining syntax rules inline, etc... 10:51:23 bwright [~bwright@c122-106-254-100.belrs3.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has joined #scheme 10:52:24 attila_lendvai: that's interesting, but I'm not actually _that_ into parsers. Actually, I just came here and asked "how CFGs and CSGs differ?" and got a reference to the book. 10:52:41 -!- Brendan_T [~Brendan_T@123-2-73-61.static.dsl.dodo.com.au] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.3.6] 10:52:48 whitequark: their latest report: https://billstclair.com/blog/steps_toward_expressive_programming_systems.html 10:52:49 http://tinyurl.com/78cgnpl 10:53:17 alaricsp: "i'm all mormon for parsers" 10:53:20 Brendan_T [~Brendan_T@123-2-73-61.static.dsl.dodo.com.au] has joined #scheme 10:55:23 Hahahah 11:06:11 -!- bwright [~bwright@c122-106-254-100.belrs3.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Quit: leaving] 11:14:15 -!- noam [~noam@46.120.51.147] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:14:30 noam [~noam@46.120.51.147] has joined #scheme 11:14:43 -!- Operaist2 [~OperaIst@ppp-110-169-194-106.revip5.asianet.co.th] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.87 [Firefox 8.0/20111115184056]] 11:48:28 snizzo [~Claudio@iglu.cc.uniud.it] has joined #scheme 11:51:00 -!- snizzo [~Claudio@iglu.cc.uniud.it] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:11:25 tupi [~david@139.82.89.24] has joined #scheme 12:12:38 snizzo [~Claudio@host10-238-dynamic.51-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #scheme 12:14:12 -!- snizzo [~Claudio@host10-238-dynamic.51-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:15:36 BW^- [~Miranda@92.81.168.206] has joined #scheme 12:15:42 how do i write a hexadecimal number? 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TEMPLATE TEMPLATE 15:05:42 c++ wtf 15:06:15 A parser written in C++ using templates, or a parser for C++ templates? 15:07:30 Stuff written using advanced template metaprogramming is like Lisp written with excessive quantities of badly-documented macros. 15:08:13 a template<> template<> Parser 15:09:47 -!- Belaf [~campedel@net-2-32-7-112.cust.dsl.teletu.it] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 15:10:48 it's turrible. 15:11:25 Uuuuurgh 15:15:14 -!- yagnb [~yaaic@211.140.5.108] has quit [] 15:21:30 -!- MichaelRaskin [~MichaelRa@195.178.216.22] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 15:22:20 -!- des__ [~quassel@158.110.152.114] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:25:47 dca` [~user@178-16-156-18.obit.ru] has joined #scheme 15:28:14 homie [~levgue@xdsl-78-35-130-8.netcologne.de] has joined #scheme 15:28:56 nego [~nego@c-76-16-30-244.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 15:36:29 dca`` [~user@178-16-156-18.obit.ru] has joined #scheme 15:38:02 -!- dca` [~user@178-16-156-18.obit.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 15:39:00 -!- leppie [~lolcow@196-210-148-9.dynamic.isadsl.co.za] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:42:26 annodomini [~lambda@wikipedia/lambda] has joined #scheme 15:46:56 -!- copumpkin [~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:47:21 copumpkin [~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod] has joined #scheme 15:47:50 rich` [~user@109.231.202.66] has joined #scheme 15:48:34 -!- BW^- [~Miranda@92.81.168.206] has quit [Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org] 15:53:00 gross: http://shootout.alioth.debian.org/u32/program.php?test=pidigits&lang=racket&id=2 15:53:00 http://tinyurl.com/3pen4sc 15:53:12 dca``` [~user@178-16-156-18.obit.ru] has joined #scheme 15:53:49 vagrant` [~user@109.231.202.66] has joined #scheme 15:54:32 -!- vagrant` [~user@109.231.202.66] has quit [Client Quit] 15:54:39 -!- dca`` [~user@178-16-156-18.obit.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 15:55:16 -!- rich` [~user@109.231.202.66] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:56:02 -!- hkBst [~marijn@gentoo/developer/hkbst] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:56:07 -!- nego [~nego@c-76-16-30-244.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 16:00:00 freakazoid [~seanl@c-67-164-106-36.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 16:01:31 wingo: look at the others -- they're equally gross 16:02:15 leppie [~lolcow@196-210-148-9.dynamic.isadsl.co.za] has joined #scheme 16:03:02 -!- ahinki [~chatzilla@212.99.10.150] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.87 [Firefox 9.0/20111122192043]] 16:09:32 kk`` [~kk@77.107.164.131] has joined #scheme 16:09:39 "don't hate the player, hate the game" ;) 16:10:58 -!- kk` [~kk@unaffiliated/kk/x-5380134] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 16:11:21 (system "program-in-hand-written-assembly") would probably do the trick too. 16:15:13 -!- kk`` is now known as kk` 16:15:20 -!- kk` [~kk@77.107.164.131] has quit [Changing host] 16:15:20 kk` [~kk@unaffiliated/kk/x-5380134] has joined #scheme 16:17:28 -!- githogori [~githogori@c-50-131-15-16.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:19:41 Belaf [~campedel@net-2-32-7-112.cust.dsl.teletu.it] has joined #scheme 16:21:26 dca```` [~user@178-16-156-18.obit.ru] has joined #scheme 16:23:03 rudybot: init r5rs 16:23:03 ijp: your r5rs sandbox is ready 16:23:12 rudybot: eval (let* ((x (string #\a)) (y (eval x (null-environment 5)))) (string-set! x 0 #\b) y) 16:23:12 ijp: ; Value: "b" 16:23:19 how odd 16:23:23 -!- dca``` [~user@178-16-156-18.obit.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 16:29:06 I submitted a package-announcement to the Clojure list that I had created a package which defines car, cdr through cddddr using Kleene closures, but the announcement was rejected. 16:29:21 I guess there's a certain hostility nowadays towards the old Lisp forms. 16:29:34 Reason: too lispy 16:31:06 most of them aren't generally useful IMO 16:32:17 ijp: Right; it's paying homage, mostly, to old neural pathways. 16:33:30 *klutometis* will refer to `car' and `cdr' from now on as the `Jedi cons-operations.' 16:35:14 -!- Belaf [~campedel@net-2-32-7-112.cust.dsl.teletu.it] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 16:46:26 Belaf [~campedel@net-2-32-7-112.cust.dsl.teletu.it] has joined #scheme 16:49:39 dca````` [~user@178-16-156-18.obit.ru] has joined #scheme 16:51:29 -!- dca```` [~user@178-16-156-18.obit.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 16:51:41 jeez, I was shocked to see how slow Clojure is. Even with it's special tricks, IronScheme still tends to beat it using generic math and bignums 16:51:58 Shame 16:52:25 Clojure explodes doing stuff like: http://eval.ironscheme.net/?id=28 16:52:35 leppie: Are you talking about the shootout above? 16:53:03 klutometis: I rebooted several times, can you provide a link? 16:53:05 I suspect there's a certain amount of Java-interop-overhead. 16:53:12 leppie: http://shootout.alioth.debian.org/u32/program.php?test=pidigits&lang=racket&id=2 16:53:13 http://tinyurl.com/3pen4sc 16:53:21 nope not that 16:53:27 let me find the link 16:53:38 Take a look at the Clojure entry, anyway; it merely corroborates your point, though. 16:54:08 ironic title.... http://scottlocklin.wordpress.com/2011/11/30/only-fast-languages-are-interesting/ 16:54:08 http://tinyurl.com/ctgd89p 16:54:44 also note the ruby scores! 16:54:53 in the comments 16:56:25 if I start using tricks in IronSCheme, I can probably speed it up by a factor of 20 16:57:27 hmm, why does racket use GMP directly? Does it not have bignum support? 16:58:04 -!- Guest94110 is now known as X-Scale 16:58:48 players gonna play; haters gonna hate; hackers gonna win by writing custom gmp bindings 16:59:18 i bet the gain is at most < 5% 16:59:51 does anyone have a portable scheme version of pidigits? 16:59:58 haskellers gonna calculate; schemers gonna mutate 17:00:09 (i can go on ;) 17:02:39 -!- Belaf [~campedel@net-2-32-7-112.cust.dsl.teletu.it] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 17:04:12 Belaf [~campedel@net-2-32-7-112.cust.dsl.teletu.it] has joined #scheme 17:04:54 jewel [~jewel@196-209-248-92.dynamic.isadsl.co.za] has joined #scheme 17:07:31 -!- ccorn [~ccorn@84-53-64-50.adsl.unet.nl] has quit [Quit: ccorn] 17:07:32 If they hated car/cdr, these fuckers are going to kill me; I implemented `lambda' as a synonym for `fn': . 17:08:16 :-D 17:08:17 *klutometis* doesn't mean to troll Clojuristas; it just happens. 17:08:24 fnfnfn 17:08:30 fntagn# 17:08:34 C-Keen: Heh. 17:10:14 klutometis: careful, you may end up creating Arc ;p 17:11:40 -!- copumpkin [~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:11:50 leppie: Ouch; you're right: c[ad]r and lambda are merely gateway drugs to some superfluous Scheme-like interface. 17:12:29 let's try convert Kawa's pidigits 17:12:47 -!- elliottcable [~me@ell.io] has quit [Quit: best short-url ever. ] 17:13:24 elliottcable [~me@ell.io] has joined #scheme 17:16:16 realitygrill [~realitygr@adsl-76-226-129-72.dsl.sfldmi.sbcglobal.net] has joined #scheme 17:16:30 airolson [~airolson@CPE00222d55a738-CM00222d55a735.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #scheme 17:17:18 copumpkin [~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod] has joined #scheme 17:17:21 dca`````` [~user@178-16-156-18.obit.ru] has joined #scheme 17:17:35 -!- Belaf [~campedel@net-2-32-7-112.cust.dsl.teletu.it] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 17:19:00 -!- dca````` [~user@178-16-156-18.obit.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:19:46 argghh to much mutation in Kawa's version... bailing 17:21:41 -!- tom_i [~thomasing@cmc.beaming.biz] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 17:22:56 -!- maartenv [~maartenv@wlan-128-23.ru.nl] has quit [Quit: maartenv] 17:24:42 -!- ski [~slj@c83-254-21-112.bredband.comhem.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 17:25:46 -!- freakazoid [~seanl@c-67-164-106-36.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 17:26:06 -!- annodomini [~lambda@wikipedia/lambda] has quit [Quit: annodomini] 17:27:49 ok, IronScheme does pidigits 2000 in 2000ms, the question now, do I really want to install Clojure? 17:34:23 ski [~slj@c83-254-21-112.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #scheme 17:36:26 stis [~stis@1-1-1-39a.veo.vs.bostream.se] has joined #scheme 17:37:19 X-Scale` [email@sgi-ultra64.broker.freenet6.net] has joined #scheme 17:37:25 -!- X-Scale [email@sgi-ultra64.broker.freenet6.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:38:40 -!- X-Scale` is now known as X-Scale 17:38:44 -!- ski [~slj@c83-254-21-112.bredband.comhem.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 17:39:48 ski [~slj@c83-254-21-112.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #scheme 17:41:48 leo2007 [~leo@120.37.13.145] has joined #scheme 17:42:50 githogori [~githogori@216.207.36.222] has joined #scheme 17:42:51 Listen, you guys; this shit will change your life: . Fucking lower case parens! 17:43:16 Why didn't I think of this? It's so simple, it's genius. Olin swapped parens and brackets. 17:44:11 -!- dca`````` [~user@178-16-156-18.obit.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 17:46:11 Once in a while, humanity happens upon a violent stroke of simplifying genius; fire was one such event, lower case parens are another. 17:46:50 This Prometheus of lower-case parens should protect himself from the Olympians, lest they get jealous that he shared this knowledge with mortals. 17:48:13 klutometis: another nice alternative is using pedals for opening/closing parens. 17:48:27 mario-goulart: Good call! Have you tried that in practice? 17:48:38 jonrafkind [~jon@crystalis.cs.utah.edu] has joined #scheme 17:49:14 Ah, shiftless parens harken back to the Lisp machines of yore: . 17:49:15 http://tinyurl.com/3acrzw2 17:49:56 klutometis: not really. 17:50:20 This corroborates my hypothesis that humanity has been more or less in decline since the heady days of mid-20th c. computer science. 17:51:12 ahinki [~chatzilla@AAmiens-551-1-96-186.w92-142.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #scheme 17:52:41 -!- ski [~slj@c83-254-21-112.bredband.comhem.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 17:53:03 Yet another approch would be turn capslock on and use a match stick to keep shift pressed. This way you get lowercase letters and lower case parens. You may not be able to type some special characters, but who cares anyway? -- you have parens. 17:53:25 MichaelRaskin [~MichaelRa@195.91.224.225] has joined #scheme 17:55:00 mario-goulart: Couple lines in .Xmodmap, and voila. Physical hacks would be funny; but, oh, the relief! 17:55:13 I feel like a new man, ladies and gentlemen. 17:55:58 incubot: Shiftless parens changed my life. 17:56:02 i need to take a beretta 50 cal to it, and breath life into @ 17:58:54 Oh, man, that sounds like Daemmerung; miss that cat. 17:59:27 ski [~slj@c83-254-21-112.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #scheme 18:05:22 realitygrill_ [~realitygr@adsl-76-226-129-72.dsl.sfldmi.sbcglobal.net] has joined #scheme 18:05:45 -!- realitygrill [~realitygr@adsl-76-226-129-72.dsl.sfldmi.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:05:45 -!- realitygrill_ is now known as realitygrill 18:08:29 delian66 [~quassel@84.252.14.164] has joined #scheme 18:12:02 -!- kk` [~kk@unaffiliated/kk/x-5380134] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 18:13:00 Belaf [~campedel@net-2-32-7-112.cust.dsl.teletu.it] has joined #scheme 18:21:42 freakazoid [~seanl@66.220.144.73] has joined #scheme 18:22:27 -!- djcb [djcb@nat/nokia/x-bqozohxltacrlryb] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:23:53 mmc1 [~michal@178-85-131-65.dynamic.upc.nl] has joined #scheme 18:31:28 tom_i [~thomasing@ingserv.demon.co.uk] has joined #scheme 18:31:47 -!- micro [~micro@www.bway.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 18:34:17 -!- noam [~noam@46.120.51.147] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 18:34:28 micro [~micro@www.bway.net] has joined #scheme 18:34:43 noam [~noam@46.120.51.147] has joined #scheme 18:34:54 -!- micro is now known as Guest18981 18:35:19 -!- noam [~noam@46.120.51.147] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:35:34 noam [~noam@46.120.51.147] has joined #scheme 18:37:00 -!- Belaf [~campedel@net-2-32-7-112.cust.dsl.teletu.it] has quit [Read error: Connection timed out] 18:38:35 kk` [~kk@77.107.164.131] has joined #scheme 18:38:35 -!- kk` [~kk@77.107.164.131] has quit [Changing host] 18:38:35 kk` [~kk@unaffiliated/kk/x-5380134] has joined #scheme 18:42:42 Belaf [~campedel@net-2-32-7-112.cust.dsl.teletu.it] has joined #scheme 18:43:07 -!- Belaf [~campedel@net-2-32-7-112.cust.dsl.teletu.it] has quit [Client Quit] 18:43:54 -!- noam [~noam@46.120.51.147] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:44:10 noam [~noam@46.120.51.147] has joined #scheme 18:44:53 -!- ski [~slj@c83-254-21-112.bredband.comhem.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 18:46:33 -!- bytbox [~s@129.2.129.231] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 18:46:42 ski [~slj@c83-254-21-112.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #scheme 18:54:56 REPLeffect [~REPLeffec@69.54.115.254] has joined #scheme 18:56:04 turbofail [~user@c-107-3-149-149.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 19:01:27 -!- Guest18981 is now known as ^micro 19:15:41 bytbox [~s@wireless-206-196-166-105.umd.edu] has joined #scheme 19:18:53 choas [~lars@p4FDC4EF2.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #scheme 19:20:25 -!- attila_lendvai [~attila_le@unaffiliated/attila-lendvai/x-3126965] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 19:26:50 -!- stis [~stis@1-1-1-39a.veo.vs.bostream.se] has left #scheme 19:28:56 gffa [~gffa@unaffiliated/gffa] has joined #scheme 19:30:46 bipartite [~rff@ip72-207-248-18.br.br.cox.net] has joined #scheme 19:33:51 -!- rff [~rff@ip72-207-248-18.br.br.cox.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 19:37:02 Also switched [] and {}, so that I have: 9{, 0}, ([, )]. This is great. 19:48:09 Belaf [~campedel@net-2-32-7-112.cust.dsl.teletu.it] has joined #scheme 19:49:35 -!- jewel [~jewel@196-209-248-92.dynamic.isadsl.co.za] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 19:50:10 -!- Iceland_jack [~baldur@earth.sudo.is] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 19:53:39 Iceland_jack [~baldur@earth.sudo.is] has joined #scheme 19:58:47 djcb [~user@a88-112-255-94.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #scheme 19:59:32 -!- ahinki [~chatzilla@AAmiens-551-1-96-186.w92-142.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 20:04:00 -!- Belaf [~campedel@net-2-32-7-112.cust.dsl.teletu.it] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 20:06:09 -!- leo2007 [~leo@120.37.13.145] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20:11:21 Easier done in xmodmap thank in the fingers. 20:11:28 s/k// 20:12:13 -!- bytbox [~s@wireless-206-196-166-105.umd.edu] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 20:12:28 -!- ThePawnBreak [~quassel@94.177.108.25] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 20:12:31 -!- kuribas [~user@94-227-36-29.access.telenet.be] has quit [Quit: ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)] 20:41:16 pjb: No joke; I only wish some guru had clued me in a half-decade ago. 20:41:26 bytbox [~s@129.2.129.231] has joined #scheme 20:58:33 -!- araujo [~araujo@gentoo/developer/araujo] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:02:46 araujo [~araujo@190.73.44.29] has joined #scheme 21:02:46 -!- araujo [~araujo@190.73.44.29] has quit [Changing host] 21:02:46 araujo [~araujo@gentoo/developer/araujo] has joined #scheme 21:05:02 Belaf [~campedel@net-2-32-7-112.cust.dsl.teletu.it] has joined #scheme 21:06:38 -!- confab [~win7@c-24-10-60-185.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 21:10:30 yamanu [~yamanu@BSN-182-29-139.dial-up.dsl.siol.net] has joined #scheme 21:11:22 -!- tom_i [~thomasing@ingserv.demon.co.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 21:13:46 -!- airolson [~airolson@CPE00222d55a738-CM00222d55a735.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [] 21:18:07 sstrickl [~sstrickl@dublin.ccs.neu.edu] has joined #scheme 21:21:27 -!- Belaf [~campedel@net-2-32-7-112.cust.dsl.teletu.it] has quit [Read error: Connection timed out] 21:27:10 https://gist.github.com/1410935 Hyperoperators! 21:29:20 ada2358 [~ada2358@login.ccs.neu.edu] has joined #scheme 21:30:42 danking: That's cool; I just modified my .Xcompose to produce the nice uparrows, too. 21:33:45 klutometis: Huzzah! I've been using TeX input mode in Emacs. 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