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-!- pygospa [~TheRealPy@kiel-d9bfc2c4.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Quit: Netzwerkarbeiten] 10:39:21 pjb annotated #123402 "on linux everything works well." at http://paste.lisp.org/display/123402#1 10:39:33 I'd suggest using Linux. 10:41:48 I have linux 10:41:57 And I do use it for programming 10:42:11 But I usually boot up windows because I find it more convienient 10:42:28 Well, on the other hand, I know nothing about MS-Windows, On Linux, I'd check LD_LIBRARY_PATH and ldconfig. 10:43:01 Dickmaster: well, dll problems are indeed more convenient: this let you avoid doing any real work. 10:43:29 I meant more convient for other stuff 10:43:35 Such as gaming 10:43:48 And a variety of other stuff I enjoy 10:43:59 Ah yes. :-( I also have a windows box to run Locf2. 10:44:12 Keep two computers. 10:44:24 And I have the added problem of linux not working with my wireless modems 10:44:40 And I only have one computer, so I can only run one at a time 10:44:53 So, next option, is the virtual machine. 10:45:01 You could run Linux in VirtualPC. 10:45:18 So that development would go smoothly, and you'd still run Windows for the rest. 10:45:36 That would work 10:45:39 zaniyah [~user@unaffiliated/zaniyah] has joined #scheme 10:45:43 I'll look up the virtual machine 10:45:47 If you have a processor modern enough, it should have hardware support for virtualisation, so it would not slow down. 10:46:03 And that program doesn't give out command line/shell output? 10:46:16 (Intel duo dual core) 10:46:55 http://www.mydigitallife.info/easy-way-to-determine-if-cpu-supports-windows-7-virtual-pc-xp-mode/ 10:46:55 http://tinyurl.com/3nkbohn 10:47:44 I'm not running win7 10:48:28 -!- MrFahrenheit [~RageOfTho@users-151-140.vinet.ba] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 10:49:03 There are similar program for older windows, I'd guess. Otherwise, in linux, egrep '(vmx|svm)' /proc/cpuinfo 10:53:20 Well, thanks for the help, I think I'll check by #windows later 10:58:02 -!- jao [~user@pdpc/supporter/professional/jao] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 11:19:43 spark_ [~spark@123.147.247.114] has joined #scheme 11:26:57 Roth [~2cf7772db@41.34.40.127] has joined #scheme 11:28:28 -!- Dickmaster [~2cf7772db@41.34.39.95] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 11:28:29 -!- Roth is now known as Dickmaster 11:32:57 pygospa [~TheRealPy@kiel-d9bfc2c4.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #scheme 11:39:01 -!- cbrannon [~cbrannon@gentoo/developer/cbrannon] has quit [Quit: leaving] 11:39:23 cbrannon [~cbrannon@gentoo/developer/cbrannon] has joined #scheme 11:43:22 -!- mithridates [~mithridat@156.34.179.246] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 12:08:41 r2q2 [~user@c-67-173-107-90.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 12:13:07 -!- Riastradh [~riastradh@fsf/member/riastradh] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 12:17:42 DrDuck [~duck@adsl-98-81-80-109.hsv.bellsouth.net] has joined #scheme 12:32:44 -!- Lemonator [~kniu@pool-96-250-3-60.nycmny.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 12:34:32 soveran [~soveran@186.19.214.247] has joined #scheme 12:41:22 -!- DrDuck [~duck@adsl-98-81-80-109.hsv.bellsouth.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 12:51:28 -!- spark_ [~spark@123.147.247.114] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 13:00:14 genieliu [~genieliu@59.78.62.120] has joined #scheme 13:08:06 rstandy` [~rastandy@93-63-185-248.ip29.fastwebnet.it] has joined #scheme 13:11:16 wingo [~wingo@90.164.198.39] has joined #scheme 13:11:47 -!- rstandy [~rastandy@93-63-185-248.ip29.fastwebnet.it] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:17:39 stis [~stis@1-1-1-39a.veo.vs.bostream.se] has joined #scheme 13:18:54 mithridates [~mithridat@156.34.179.246] has joined #scheme 13:20:24 pdelgallego [~pdelgalle@1385159933.dhcp.dbnet.dk] has joined #scheme 13:21:07 -!- gnomon [~gnomon@CPE0022158a8221-CM000f9f776f96.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:22:49 zmv [~Telefonic@187.35.237.215] has joined #scheme 13:23:07 gnomon [~gnomon@CPE0022158a8221-CM000f9f776f96.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #scheme 13:30:23 -!- samth_away is now known as samth 13:30:48 -!- drdo [~drdo@199.119.226.161] has quit [Quit: YOU CAN'T LEAVE!] 13:32:54 -!- tauntaun` is now known as tauntaun 13:37:24 MrFahrenheit [~RageOfTho@users-151-140.vinet.ba] has joined #scheme 13:40:02 zmv_ [~Telefonic@187.35.237.215] has joined #scheme 13:43:22 -!- zmv [~Telefonic@187.35.237.215] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 13:50:13 masm [~masm@bl15-129-254.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #scheme 13:50:46 drdo [~drdo@199.119.226.161] has joined #scheme 13:55:11 -!- genieliu [~genieliu@59.78.62.120] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 14:01:09 Roth [~2cf7772db@41.34.40.127] has joined #scheme 14:03:13 -!- Dickmaster [~2cf7772db@41.34.40.127] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 14:03:13 -!- Roth is now known as Dickmaster 14:03:31 Riastradh [~riastradh@fsf/member/riastradh] has joined #scheme 14:04:07 good afternoon, folkses 14:04:23 Now, now, wingo. You should know that the plural is `folksen'. 14:05:28 yessir 14:06:24 Not counting those in their folksvagens. 14:08:45 volkscompilers 14:15:42 kuribas [~user@d54C435E2.access.telenet.be] has joined #scheme 14:17:04 pandeiro [~pandeiro@187.38.240.170] has joined #scheme 14:17:33 -!- copumpkin [~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod] has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 14:18:36 -!- clklein_ is now known as clklein 14:21:26 realitygrill [~realitygr@c-24-5-7-139.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 14:21:32 -!- realitygrill [~realitygr@c-24-5-7-139.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Client Quit] 14:25:28 homie [~levgue@xdsl-78-35-151-93.netcologne.de] has joined #scheme 14:28:38 -!- drdo [~drdo@199.119.226.161] has quit [Quit: ZNC - http://znc.sourceforge.net] 14:33:46 -!- zmv_ [~Telefonic@187.35.237.215] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 14:35:30 foof: ping! 14:37:15 stis: pin 14:37:39 (the 4-way handshake proceeds "pi" then "p") 14:38:12 foof, in fmt-0.8: 14:38:15 (fmt #f (c= 'a `(,(c-cast 'int 'f) 1))) 14:38:16 $3 = "a = (int)f(1); 14:38:19 Bug? 14:39:10 e.g. should been a = ((int) f)(1); 14:39:11 -!- leppie [~lolcow@196-215-83-98.dynamic.isadsl.co.za] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:39:49 I'm guessing your real use-case is with a function pointer cast, not int? 14:39:59 Yep! 14:40:30 preflex_ [~preflex@unaffiliated/mauke/bot/preflex] has joined #scheme 14:40:31 Yeah, looks like the precedence is wrong there. 14:40:35 -!- preflex [~preflex@unaffiliated/mauke/bot/preflex] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 14:40:41 I'll fix it, but you can use c-paren in the meantime. 14:41:00 oh, c-paren!, thanks! 14:43:19 copumpkin [~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod] has joined #scheme 14:45:44 imphasing [~Alex@97-80-157-169.dhcp.gwnt.ga.charter.com] has joined #scheme 14:46:37 I'm attempting to wrap my head around call/cc.. I think I understand what's happening, but I'm not entirely sure what the current continuation IS.. is that the current execution path? 14:46:57 imphasing: You should read http://pl.barzilay.org/lec27.txt 14:47:39 imphasing: But basically, the continuation is the thing that's receiving the results of current operation. 14:48:02 imphasing: So in a way, you can look at it as the execution path, if it helps you understand it better. 14:48:17 leppie [~lolcow@196-215-83-98.dynamic.isadsl.co.za] has joined #scheme 14:48:33 cky: Thanks a lot, I'll get to reading :D 14:48:42 Good luck! 14:53:41 tupi [~david@189.60.162.202] has joined #scheme 14:54:00 foof-loop hurts my eyeballs 14:54:32 The implemenation or usage? 14:54:37 implementation 14:54:48 Which one? 14:54:54 some of the more advanced usage is a bit opaque to me too, but that is probably just lack of practice 14:55:03 version 10 beta, it says 14:55:10 the one that is in wak 14:55:26 https://gitorious.org/wak/wak-foof-loop 14:56:46 Very waky (sorry, couldn't resist). 14:56:56 it could just be a prejudice against the upper case. 14:57:26 What code are you looking at in particular that hurts your eyeballs? 14:57:48 the bit about extended parameters 14:58:00 the part that pulls in syn-param 14:58:01 syn-param.scm? 14:58:12 Or its use? 14:58:12 yes, that; and the foof-loop integration of it 14:59:29 syn-param.scm is pretty opaque, yeah. (But I wrote it after trying and failing to understand another implementation of the idea, which is much, much worse...) 15:00:44 What is the foof-loop integration of it? Just the invocation of WITH-EXTENDED-PARAMETER-OPERATORS in the LOOP macro? 15:02:05 https://gitorious.org/wak/wak-foof-loop/blobs/master/foof-loop/private/foof-loop.scm#line377 15:02:06 http://tinyurl.com/3mzl4lx 15:03:28 Do you have foof-loop.txt in front of you, and in particular, the section `Loop Expansion'? 15:04:23 i do now 15:04:41 Am I totally off-base thinking that a lambda, which accepts a single argument, who's body is also a lambda which accepts a single argument, is pretty much the same as a lambda with 2 arguments? 15:04:53 That might help to clarify what's going on there. The SIMPLIFY-BODY stuff is just a bunch of nonsense to work around stupid compilers. 15:05:01 imphasing, nope. That concept is called `currying'. 15:05:12 Riastradh: Hah! I thought it sounded familiar :) 15:05:13 Riastradh: thanks for the pointer 15:05:27 I think I'm becoming infected with Scheme.. 15:06:07 wingo, the WITH-EXTENDED-PARAMETER-OPERATORS stuff is just a bunch of hair to turn (continue x (=> y z) (=> p q)) into (loop-procedure x q z), where Y and P are the names you gave the loop variables at the top of the loop. 15:06:09 imphasing: careful, it is terminal! 15:06:47 CONTINUE here is the macro you named by writing (loop continue ...) at the top; LOOP-PROCEDURE is the internal name for the recursive procedure that executes the loop. 15:08:21 phax [~phax@unaffiliated/phax] has joined #scheme 15:08:22 -!- phax [~phax@unaffiliated/phax] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:08:30 By the way, I suggest that you ignore everything about the user termination conditions. They were a total design mistake, at least in LOOP. (They are somewhat sensible in the nested loops.) 15:08:33 phax [~phax@unaffiliated/phax] has joined #scheme 15:08:54 If they were omitted, the whole SIMPLIFY-BODY nonsense could go away too, without impairing performance for stupid compilers. 15:09:06 guile is a stupid compiler :P 15:09:12 -!- Quetzalcoatl_ [~Administr@cpe-75-186-5-185.cinci.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 15:09:13 (And a lot of confusing behaviour would go away.) 15:10:38 Maybe some day I'll make a new version of foof-loop without the user termination conditions (at least in the documentation). 15:11:04 It already exists in Chibi :) 15:11:05 rstandy [~rastandy@93-63-185-248.ip29.fastwebnet.it] has joined #scheme 15:11:32 (along with the much, much worst version of syn-params.scm that you alluded to) 15:11:34 Nested loops still need the user termination conditions, though, perhaps with some other mechanism. 15:12:41 -!- rstandy [~rastandy@93-63-185-248.ip29.fastwebnet.it] has quit [Client Quit] 15:12:44 -!- rstandy` [~rastandy@93-63-185-248.ip29.fastwebnet.it] has quit [Quit: ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)] 15:13:11 rstandy [~rastandy@93-63-185-248.ip29.fastwebnet.it] has joined #scheme 15:14:23 wingo, does that help to clarify the code a little? 15:17:24 Riastradh: it does, thanks. i hadn't read the document before. 15:18:00 the context is that i'm working with rotty's dorodango, which i would like to install with guile, but i don't want to provide foof-loop as a public interface 15:18:19 so i'm trying to figure out what's essential and what's not, and then folding the essential things under my namespace 15:18:43 i will probably punt and drop all of foof-loop in there 15:18:54 Is there no mechanism for not publishing a component? 15:19:57 there are, but right now dorodango uses the wak wrappers 15:20:17 i would like to allow wak to be installed and not conflict with dorodango's impl 15:24:04 maybe i should steal foof-loop for guile itself :P 15:26:06 good programmers borrow; great programmers steal 15:27:14 :P 15:27:22 zmv [~Telefonic@200-161-255-70.dsl.telesp.net.br] has joined #scheme 15:27:24 i would like to understand racket's loops before doing that tho 15:27:42 Racket's loops require much hairier macrology. 15:28:05 (foof-loop could be implemented a little more palatably with the help of hairier macrology, but it is not dependent on hairy macrology.) 15:29:54 And people who work on Racket's loops would then become hairy macrologists, right? :-) 15:30:08 No, not really. 15:30:37 Neither foof-loop nor Racket's loop macros requires the author of iterators to be deeply immersed in macro zen. 15:31:12 I did say work _on_, not work _with_. :-) 15:31:52 I should probably have been more specific, though: 15:32:09 In particular, I was referring to people who maintain Racket's looping system/macros. 15:32:31 -!- gravicappa [~gravicapp@p57A4029E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 15:32:45 Roth [~2cf7772db@41.35.224.193] has joined #scheme 15:33:44 -!- Dickmaster [~2cf7772db@41.34.40.127] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 15:33:45 -!- Roth is now known as Dickmaster 15:45:18 -!- cbrannon [~cbrannon@gentoo/developer/cbrannon] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:47:48 Dickmaster: you might try #chicken for your problem. They're going to want to know which version of Chicken you have installed, and how you installed it, and whether you've ever successfully csc-compiled any other program with it. 15:47:59 Is (define (addone x) (+ x 1)) kind of syntactic sugar for (define addone (lambda (x) (+ x 1)))? 15:48:14 imphasing: yes. 15:48:20 Nice :) 15:53:38 Heh, it's feeling like combinators, continuations, and control flow are all highly related and it's just on the tip of my brain.. 15:55:37 o/~ that's the sound of a man, working on the brain, gaaiyang o/~ 15:56:03 so, racket says, regarding `for': "A for form with zero for-clauses is equivalent to a single for-clause that binds an unreferenced id to a sequence containing a single element." 15:56:13 why not just say for is like begin in that case? 15:56:27 or (let () ..) or something 15:56:29 Maybe it's more like (do () (#f) ...) than (begin ...)? 15:56:40 Oh, no, I see. 15:56:48 Just to keep you on your toes. 15:57:16 this sentence is equivalent to this sentence, in addition to a number of other ones that i didn't write down. 16:02:02 Riastradh: foof-loop.txt is lovely. 16:06:57 *Riastradh* bows. 16:07:11 Hmm...actually, eliminating user termination conditions isn't good enough, because then there's no user-supplied path into the final body, which is the only place where the final variables are available. 16:08:14 http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.scheme/msg/60dcac5ea812398 is entertaining too 16:11:22 would foof-loop be useful as a srfi? is the srfi process still alive? 16:11:43 apart from the fact that importing srfi 154 is a bit ridiculous 16:13:28 (or was that srfi 153?) 16:13:56 -!- zaniyah [~user@unaffiliated/zaniyah] has quit [Quit: Oops.] 16:18:23 kilimanjaro [~kilimanja@unaffiliated/kilimanjaro] has joined #scheme 16:19:16 mimi [~mimi@d54C17518.access.telenet.be] has joined #scheme 16:19:42 -!- rstandy [~rastandy@93-63-185-248.ip29.fastwebnet.it] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 16:19:43 foof: yeah, really nice message there, that i'm finally reading 5 years later 16:22:38 yow! 16:23:05 Kind of amazing that that was five years ago. 16:23:47 *Daemmerung* is curious, sneaks a peek at comp.lang.scheme 16:24:02 ooh me too 16:24:52 not much going on 16:24:54 TAMIL ACTRESS HOT PHOTOS & VIDEOS <-- some things never change 16:25:16 Shocking the number of names that I recognize in there. 16:25:33 Close-knit is the word of the day. 16:25:52 Even the same semi-schizophrenics, in there. 16:26:46 we are all who we are, still 16:30:48 As there, as also here. Okay. 16:31:39 -!- mimi [~mimi@d54C17518.access.telenet.be] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:35:45 *wingo* larts Riastradh for turgid prose in nested-foof-loop.txt 16:45:25 -!- mmc [~michal@salm-office-nat.tomtomgroup.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 16:51:10 zmv_ [~Telefonic@200-161-255-70.dsl.telesp.net.br] has joined #scheme 16:53:00 -!- zmv [~Telefonic@200-161-255-70.dsl.telesp.net.br] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 16:55:20 That's why it's a draft... 16:57:16 -!- kilimanjaro [~kilimanja@unaffiliated/kilimanjaro] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 16:57:34 -!- pandeiro [~pandeiro@187.38.240.170] has quit [Quit: Thanks, fellas] 17:00:32 -!- kuribas [~user@d54C435E2.access.telenet.be] has quit [Quit: ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)] 17:01:56 zmv [~Telefonic@200-161-255-70.dsl.telesp.net.br] has joined #scheme 17:04:54 -!- zmv_ [~Telefonic@200-161-255-70.dsl.telesp.net.br] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 17:18:29 jewel 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