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build a list in r5rs? 04:14:15 what makes you think its not a list 04:14:30 jonrafkind: I mean plain representation of list. 04:14:30 do you know that a list is made up of cons cells? 04:14:38 -!- drdo [~user@91.205.108.93.rev.vodafone.pt] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 04:14:48 jonrafkind: Yes, just learnt that :-) 04:14:58 you want it to print '(b c) instead of (mcons 'b (mcons 'c '()) ? 04:15:02 that im not sure how to do.. 04:15:19 Alright. 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[~rien@dyn-160-39-34-114.dyn.columbia.edu] has joined #scheme 13:01:47 Capital letters for function names in r5rs are not allowed, right? 13:02:20 pdelgallego [~pdelgalle@1385159903.dhcp.dbnet.dk] has joined #scheme 13:03:41 -!- dsmith [~dsmith@cpe-184-56-129-232.neo.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:06:51 xwl [~user@222.130.115.46] has joined #scheme 13:09:51 -!- alfa_y_omega [~alfa_y_om@89.129.116.150] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 13:10:42 alfa_y_omega [~alfa_y_om@89.129.116.150] has joined #scheme 13:16:03 -!- homie [~levgue@xdsl-78-35-184-15.netcologne.de] has quit [Quit: ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)] 13:16:08 -!- wbooze [~levgue@xdsl-78-35-184-15.netcologne.de] has quit [Quit: ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)] 13:19:02 -!- samth_away is now known as samth 13:23:37 -!- osoleve [~osoleve@adsl-074-166-228-237.sip.bct.bellsouth.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 13:27:56 Bahman: R5RS is not case-sensitive. 13:28:02 -!- alfa_y_omega [~alfa_y_om@89.129.116.150] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 13:28:38 Bahman: But, because it's not case-sensitive, it's customary to write everything in lower-case. 13:29:00 dnolen [~davidnole@184.152.69.75] has joined #scheme 13:29:04 Because, really, code is harder to read when it's shouting at you. ;-) 13:29:42 alfa_y_omega [~alfa_y_om@89.129.116.150] has joined #scheme 13:31:33 cky: Right :-) 13:32:06 cky: I had a function 'insertR' but when I called it I got 'reference to an identifier before its definition'... 13:32:23 I changed the name to 'insertr' and it worked. 13:32:25 Bahman: Which implementation are you using? 13:32:50 racket using #lang r5rs 13:33:10 Hmm, that's odd. 13:33:15 rudybot: init r5rs 13:33:15 cky: your r5rs sandbox is ready 13:33:17 rudybot: CAR 13:33:17 cky: ; Value: # 13:33:26 tauntaun [~Crumpet@ool-44c7e46c.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #scheme 13:33:27 Bahman: Works for me. ;-) 13:33:49 cky: Yes. Anyway lowercase looks better as you said. Thanks. 13:33:54 :-D 13:33:55 -!- xwl [~user@222.130.115.46] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 13:35:09 rudybot: (dIsPlAy "Hello, world!") 13:35:09 cky: with Carbon Emacs, I could get true full screen, no OSX menu at the top or anything. Pure Emacs filling my display. With the Cocoa build in 23, maximizing the window is the best you can do, you still see the OSX menu and top of the Emacs.app window 13:35:12 Lol. 13:35:24 rudybot: eval (dIsPlAy "Hello, world!") 13:35:24 cky: ; stdout: "Hello, world!" 13:35:49 Bahman: ^^--- pervere example of case-insensitivity 13:35:52 *perverse 13:36:28 rudybot: (displaY "cky: PErhaps just an implementation problem but thanks again") 13:36:28 Bahman: your sandbox is ready 13:36:28 Bahman: error: reference to undefined identifier: displaY 13:36:38 cky: You see. 13:36:45 That last letter is the problem. 13:36:51 Bahman: Say "rubydot: init r5rs" first. 13:36:59 (blush) 13:37:00 rudybot: eval (displaY "Testing 1 2 3") 13:37:00 cky: ; stdout: "Testing 1 2 3" 13:37:06 rudybot: init r5rs 13:37:06 Bahman: your r5rs sandbox is ready 13:37:10 rudybot: (displaY "cky: PErhaps just an implementation problem but thanks again") 13:37:10 Bahman: ; stdout: "cky: PErhaps just an implementation problem but thanks again" 13:37:31 Works 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Is that what you mean? 20:14:30 Magic. 20:14:46 An implementation would be great. 20:15:35 rramsden [~rramsden@s64-180-62-209.bc.hsia.telus.net] has joined #scheme 20:15:53 rudybot: (define (fold-left f seed lst) (if (null? lst) seed (fold-left f (f (car seed) seed) (cdr lst)))) 20:15:53 cky: Done. 20:15:55 -!- pothos [~pothos@111-240-164-129.dynamic.hinet.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:16:03 rudybot: (fold-left + 0 '(1 2 3 4)) 20:16:04 cky: error: mcar: expects argument of type ; given 0 20:16:09 Fail. 20:16:11 rudybot: init racket 20:16:12 cky: your racket sandbox is ready 20:16:13 rudybot: (define (fold-left f seed lst) (if (null? lst) seed (fold-left f (f (car seed) seed) (cdr lst)))) 20:16:14 cky: Done. 20:16:17 rudybot: (fold-left + 0 '(1 2 3 4)) 20:16:17 cky: error: car: expects argument of type ; given 0 20:16:29 rudybot: (define (fold-left f seed lst) (if (null? lst) seed (fold-left f (f (car lst) seed) (cdr lst)))) 20:16:29 cky: Done. 20:16:32 rudybot: (fold-left + 0 '(1 2 3 4)) 20:16:32 cky: ; Value: 10 20:16:34 Duh. 20:16:44 rudybot: (fold-left cons '() '(a b c d)) 20:16:44 ijp: your sandbox is ready 20:16:45 ijp: error: reference to undefined identifier: fold-left 20:16:46 Guest57698: Sorry about my typoes earlier. The last version I posted is how it works. 20:16:57 rudybot: give ijp fold-left 20:16:58 ijp: cky has given you a value, say "rudybot: eval (GRAB)" to get it (case sensitive) 20:17:03 rudybot: (fold-left cons '() '(a b c d)) 20:17:03 ijp: error: reference to undefined identifier: fold-left 20:17:12 rudybot: eval (GRAB) 20:17:12 ijp: ; Value: # 20:17:18 rudybot: eval (fold-left cons '() '(a b c d)) 20:17:18 ijp: error: reference to undefined identifier: fold-left 20:17:22 ijp: Type "rubybot: (define fold-left (GRAB))" 20:17:32 rudybot: eval (define fold-left (GRAB)) 20:17:32 ijp: Done. 20:17:35 rudybot: eval (fold-left cons '() '(a b c d)) 20:17:35 ijp: ; Value: (d c b a) 20:17:40 \o/ 20:17:42 rudybot: I will master you yet 20:17:43 ijp: master Robby Findler * 570a3e5 (3 files in 3 dirs): renamed parametric/c to parametric->/c ... 20:17:50 Guest57698: Does that make sense? 20:17:52 Thanks for the help 20:18:04 pothos [~pothos@111-240-171-181.dynamic.hinet.net] has joined #scheme 20:18:13 Guest57698: My pleasure. As you can see, it's a really simple function. 20:18:21 mippymoe [~mathguru1@c-24-11-171-16.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 20:18:33 Of course, multi-list fold is more tricky, but nothing too onerous. 20:18:41 This will help me on my exam. 20:18:55 Cool. :-) 20:20:28 -!- pothos [~pothos@111-240-171-181.dynamic.hinet.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:20:51 -!- wbooze [~levgue@xdsl-78-35-184-15.netcologne.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:20:51 -!- homie [~levgue@xdsl-78-35-184-15.netcologne.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:20:53 pothos [~pothos@111-240-171-181.dynamic.hinet.net] has joined #scheme 20:22:00 yell0 [yello@unaffiliated/contempt] has joined #scheme 20:27:22 homie [~levgue@xdsl-78-35-184-15.netcologne.de] has joined #scheme 20:27:57 -!- rasterbar [~rasterbar@unaffiliated/rasterbar] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 20:28:37 geoffhill [~geoffhill@165.124.145.162] has joined #scheme 20:30:37 geoffhill_ [~geoffhill@wireless-165-124-145-162.nuwlan.northwestern.edu] has joined #scheme 20:31:36 -!- geoffhill [~geoffhill@165.124.145.162] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:31:36 -!- geoffhill_ is now known as geoffhill 20:33:12 -!- HG` [~HG@p5DC057EB.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 20:33:38 -!- gravicappa [~gravicapp@ppp91-78-184-173.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:35:16 rasterbar [~rasterbar@unaffiliated/rasterbar] has joined #scheme 20:46:29 -!- mippymoe [~mathguru1@c-24-11-171-16.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 20:48:41 mippymoe [~mathguru1@c-24-11-171-16.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 20:59:11 -!- geoffhill [~geoffhill@wireless-165-124-145-162.nuwlan.northwestern.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 21:02:16 zmv [~daniel@c9533906.virtua.com.br] has joined #scheme 21:02:56 -!- mmc [~michal@82-148-210-75.fiber.unet.nl] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 21:07:08 lisppaste [~lisppaste@common-lisp.net] has joined #scheme 21:07:12 -!- rpg [~rpg@216.243.156.16.real-time.com] has quit [Quit: rpg] 21:07:38 minion [~minion@common-lisp.net] has joined #scheme 21:07:44 specbot [~specbot@common-lisp.net] has joined #scheme 21:10:28 -!- Guest57698 [~PARANOID@be-sun14.ic.ucsc.edu] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:12:38 -!- djcb [~user@a88-112-253-18.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:14:13 -!- superjudge [~mjl@c83-250-110-188.bredband.comhem.se] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 21:19:56 -!- homie [~levgue@xdsl-78-35-184-15.netcologne.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:20:03 this isn't really a scheme question, but I'm trying to install/use chibi-scheme and I'd prefer not to install it to /usr/local . Any tips on doing this? 21:20:30 chibi-ffi for example looks in /usr/bin/env to find chibi-scheme 21:21:07 Edit the makefile to change the PREFIX? 21:21:22 Or, just run `make PREFIX=/usr/appamattos-fantastic-prefix'? 21:21:23 /usr/bin/env generally runs its argument from $PATH 21:21:58 I used the PREFIX and set my path, but there was still a hitch 21:22:02 So the install should be able to reside anywhere the installer wants 21:23:02 Chibi scheme can't find the .so 21:23:11 probably because somtehing bad happened with ldconfig 21:23:58 ldconfig shouldn't be involved at all... 21:24:11 You need to specify (1) exactly what you typed, (2) exactly what you saw, and (3) exactly what you expected to see. 21:24:46 Use if it's more than three lines. 21:24:53 Okay, so I execute chibi-scheme and it cannot find the libchibi-scheme.so file 21:25:03 I can use LD_LIBRARY_PATH and it works okay 21:25:48 I'm wondering though if I can somehow do this without LD_LIBRARY_PATH, as chibi-ffi for example will later run chibi-scheme and won't have the right LD_LIBRARY_PATH 21:25:57 jrtayloriv [~jrtaylori@207-118-126-212.dyn.centurytel.net] has joined #scheme 21:25:57 perhaps you want a statically linked chibi, if you do not want the .so to be in LD_LIBRARY_PATH? 21:26:10 Yes, I think you're right :P 21:28:33 No, you need to link it with -R$(LIBDIR). 21:29:19 RLDFLAGS=-Wl,-R$(DESTDIR)$(LIBDIR) # $(DESTDIR) does not belong there. 21:30:10 foof, the rpath Chibi's makefile builds the chibi-scheme executable with is bogus -- it should be $(LIBDIR), not $(DESTDIR)$(LIBDIR). 21:31:09 hmm 21:31:17 foof, actually, it looks like the makefile doesn't even specify an rpath for chibi-scheme. 21:31:47 so do I need to do anything other than correcting that line? 21:31:54 appamatto, you will also need to add $(RLDFLAGS) or perhaps $(XLDFLAGS) to the C compiler command in the rule that builds chibi-scheme. 21:32:20 Just $(RLDFLAGS), I think. 21:37:52 gravicappa [~gravicapp@ppp91-77-175-168.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #scheme 21:38:32 -!- gravicappa [~gravicapp@ppp91-77-175-168.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:40:21 -!- null- [~null-@204.97.199.4] has left #scheme 21:43:41 -!- ehiggs [~ehiggs@87-194-210-227.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Quit: leaving] 21:44:29 Also, the makefile seems broken on MinGW/MSys. 21:44:46 It builds fine once you edit it though. 21:46:05 hmm, also that seems to rely on PLATFORM being unix 21:46:38 -!- aisa [~aisa@173-10-243-253-Albuquerque.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has quit [Quit: aisa] 21:46:50 Well, that's broken too, then! 21:47:09 rramsden_ [~rramsden@s64-180-62-209.bc.hsia.telus.net] has joined #scheme 21:47:16 foof, you need to do the rpath business on `linux' as well as `unix', too. 21:47:55 -!- rramsden_ [~rramsden@s64-180-62-209.bc.hsia.telus.net] has quit [Client Quit] 21:51:01 -!- Broa [~Broa@235.Red-83-36-190.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Disconnected by services] 21:51:08 Broa [~Broa@235.Red-83-36-190.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #scheme 21:52:43 hmm, any good way to tell env about chibi-scheme? 21:52:54 (for chibi-ffi, etc.) 21:53:08 Riastradh: pointing rpath into DESTDIR is generally bad idea. 21:53:14 Riastradh: DESTDIR is staged area. 21:53:35 Howdy ASau 21:53:36 Riastradh: It should be just $(LIBDIR). 21:53:41 I think I know you from #forth 21:53:41 ASau, yes, that's why I said $(DESTDIR) does not belong in `-Wl,-R$(DESTDIR)$(LIBDIR)'. 21:53:55 Ah, right. 21:55:05 Assuming platform is kind of "unix" is easier than writing more portable makefile. 21:55:15 I agree with Larry Wall here. 21:55:30 What does Larry Wall say? 21:55:43 That it is easier to port shell than write portable shell code. 21:55:48 ugh, spent my whole hacking hour on trying to deal with this :P 21:56:25 Also, I should report some gc problems on Chibi (when DSEXP_USE_BOEHM=0), on Windows. 21:56:55 Riastradh: when will we see MIT Scheme in packages? 21:56:55 Somehow I have a feeling most of the user base is on Unix systems. 21:56:56 ;) 21:57:22 Broa: it is usually reasonable assumption. 21:57:25 d'oh, I can just edit chibi-ffi to not reference env 21:57:50 ASau, when Chris gets around to making 9.1. 21:58:42 Oh, it's the moment for petitions? Riastradh: when will we see paredit on Visual Studio? 21:59:01 Ha! 21:59:09 -!- dzhus [~sphinx@95-27-255-60.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:59:25 (I must admit I believed it until it got to the dynamic scope and Edwin's vi bindings) 22:02:38 -!- MrFahrenheit [~RageOfTho@users-146-140.vinet.ba] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:02:50 Wow -- I didn't think anyone actually looked at that! Do I know you? 22:02:50 -!- RageOfThou [~RageOfTho@users-146-140.vinet.ba] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:03:14 MrFahrenheit [~RageOfTho@users-146-140.vinet.ba] has joined #scheme 22:03:45 *fds* reads it. :-P 22:04:43 Riastradh, not unless lurking the channel (and several Scheme related blags) counts. 22:05:08 But anyway, if it's on the internet... someone reads it. 22:06:00 rumina [~rumina@88-148-219-26.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined #scheme 22:07:10 jrt4 [~jrtaylori@98.125.214.203] has joined #scheme 22:07:50 -!- jrtayloriv [~jrtaylori@207-118-126-212.dyn.centurytel.net] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 22:08:03 Paredit for Visual Studio might happen when ice cream down in hell is made of, not merely with, nitrogen. 22:10:36 Well, that's unfortunate. It means I have to die and go hell to see if such thing happens, which may be a bit awkward before starting a new project. 22:11:15 I 22:11:19 Hmm, I've never seen any comments from you on my blag! 22:11:22 At least Edwin won't use vi bindings though... 22:11:59 Riastradh: oh, BTW. 22:12:25 Riastradh: do you know if there's anything to illustrate monads and/or linear types in Scheme? 22:14:37 Riastradh: I tried, but for some strange reason a Gtk program (Firefox) killed my tab when I pressed C-w... 22:14:43 -!- stis [~stis@host-95-201-112-88.mobileonline.telia.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:17:00 -!- jrt4 [~jrtaylori@98.125.214.203] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 22:22:08 -!- Blkt [~user@82.84.171.136] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 22:22:59 Blkt [~user@82.84.158.191] has joined #scheme 22:24:02 kilimanjaro [~kilimanja@unaffiliated/kilimanjaro] has joined #scheme 22:27:02 -!- SeanTAllen [~SeanTAlle@cpe-98-14-83-126.nyc.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: SeanTAllen] 22:27:52 -!- pygospa [~TheRealPy@kiel-4dbed69b.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Disconnected by services] 22:28:04 pygospa [~TheRealPy@kiel-5f768835.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #scheme 22:31:12 jrt4 [~jrtaylori@207-118-45-130.dyn.centurytel.net] has joined #scheme 22:33:23 SeanTAllen [~SeanTAlle@cpe-98-14-83-126.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #scheme 22:33:37 -!- SeanTAllen [~SeanTAlle@cpe-98-14-83-126.nyc.res.rr.com] has quit [Client Quit] 22:34:52 bgs100 [~ian@unaffiliated/bgs100] has joined #scheme 22:44:52 -!- mippymoe [~mathguru1@c-24-11-171-16.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:45:25 mippymoe [~mathguru1@c-24-11-171-16.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 22:48:53 wuj [~wuj@207-172-162-191.c3-0.wsd-ubr1.qens-wsd.ny.cable.rcn.com] has joined #scheme 22:49:18 -!- Blkt [~user@82.84.158.191] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:49:31 aidalgol [~user@114-134-8-93.rurallink.co.nz] has joined #scheme 22:52:50 -!- aidalgol [~user@114-134-8-93.rurallink.co.nz] has quit [Client Quit] 22:54:02 aidalgol [~user@114-134-8-93.rurallink.co.nz] has joined #scheme 22:55:05 osoleve [~osoleve@adsl-074-166-228-237.sip.bct.bellsouth.net] has joined #scheme 23:01:41 -!- mippymoe [~mathguru1@c-24-11-171-16.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 23:05:45 -!- aidalgol [~user@114-134-8-93.rurallink.co.nz] has quit [Quit: ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)] 23:16:16 -!- githogori [~githogori@216.207.36.222] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:20:44 Broa: What version of Chibi? 23:25:52 cafesofie [~cafesofie@ool-18b97779.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #scheme 23:26:22 Riastradh: Re: rpath: I really don't understand the point of pollu 23:26:53 ting the binary permanently with a temporary path, but oh well :/ 23:29:57 What? 23:30:03 Currently that's exactly what you're doing. 23:30:36 foof: 0.3 23:30:58 And that's what is causing breakage, because the rpath should be the run-time path, not the staged installation directory path. 23:31:09 Riastradh: Right, I'd rather not use rpath at all. 23:31:39 Broa: 0.3 has known gc bugs on all platforms (though admittedly worse on windows), you really need to be using latest dev 23:32:19 You need to use rpath if you want to dynamically link against non-system libraries. 23:32:23 pranq [20253@unaffiliated/contempt] has joined #scheme 23:32:53 That's what LD_LIBRARY_PATH is for. 23:33:00 I'll checkout the latest hg changeset then. 23:33:33 No, LD_LIBRARY_PATH is a debugging feature. 23:33:50 Anything that relies on it for correct operation is completely broken. 23:34:13 Broa: I'm trying to release 0.4 soon. 23:34:16 Doesn't LD_LIBRARY_PATH belong to the set of things, including e.g. goto, that are sometimes considered harmful? 23:35:00 Oh, nm, I'm thinking of something else... 23:35:10 *foof* just woke up and needs coffee 23:35:32 -!- rramsden [~rramsden@s64-180-62-209.bc.hsia.telus.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:37:07 -!- masm [~masm@2.80.155.207] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 23:38:25 (Absolute rpaths are pretty silly too. However, fixing that requires fixing how everybody builds software on Unix, which is a non-trivial exercise that even I wouldn't inflict upon a reader. Short of that, you need to use them if you dynamically link against non-system libraries.) 23:40:37 (Some operating systems support relative rpaths these days, such as NetBSD, Mac OS X, and Solaris. But their use is not widespread except on Mac OS X, and in order to be useful they require policy decisions for large sets of software that nobody has made, let alone implemented.) 23:44:32 -!- kilimanjaro [~kilimanja@unaffiliated/kilimanjaro] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 23:44:44 dnolen [~davidnole@184.152.69.75] has joined #scheme 23:52:40 -!- zmv is now known as hehehe 23:52:53 -!- hehehe is now known as zmv 23:53:53 -!- wuj [~wuj@207-172-162-191.c3-0.wsd-ubr1.qens-wsd.ny.cable.rcn.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds]