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mostly curious about how the two "var" expansions come to have different toplevel bindings 15:19:11 oh nice one. I learned from that snippet to implement constants. really obvious. 15:20:52 bipt [~bpt@user-0c8h24l.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #scheme 15:21:37 fantazo__: You don't need a macro actually 15:21:58 ok, then elaborate. 15:22:18 (define (make-constant foo) (lambda () foo)) 15:22:21 You can export your "constants" as procedures which return the value 15:22:22 yeah :) 15:22:39 hmm. 15:22:44 (define a (make-constant 10)) 15:22:45 (a) 15:22:55 In chicken: (define a (constantly 10)) 15:23:19 I don't know if I should be disgusted or be enlighted, depends on the low-level or high-leve viewpoint. 15:23:48 constantly, oh nice one. 15:25:00 scheme is like the go game. 15:25:16 heh 15:25:46 sjamaan: (y) and (x) access different `val' bindings ? 15:26:13 even though they are both defined in the same module? 15:26:22 huh? 15:26:37 val is just a template variable name 15:26:52 it is an introduced binding 15:26:54 It gets replaced with "x" when the macro is instantiated 15:27:09 the question in that thread is whether it is uniquely introduced or not 15:27:12 This x is looked up in the macro's syntactic environment 15:27:23 it is not a pattern variable 15:27:27 sjamaan: 'val', not 'var' 15:27:36 oh, I missed it 15:27:43 sorry, should have been clearer 15:27:52 *wingo* heads out for a bit, back in an hour or too 15:27:54 *two 15:27:57 ciao :) 15:28:42 No, you were clear enough 15:28:45 I just was too hasty 15:29:45 who writes games in scheme? 15:29:53 -!- aking [~aking@67.23.13.119] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 15:30:08 -!- homie [~levgue@xdsl-78-35-151-130.netcologne.de] has quit [Quit: ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)] 15:30:27 -!- wbooze [~levgue@xdsl-78-35-151-130.netcologne.de] has quit [Quit: ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)] 15:30:35 racket distributes several games. I guess graphics is one of those implementation dependent things 15:31:58 -!- wingo [~wingo@90.164.198.39] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:32:05 erider [~chatzilla@unaffiliated/erider] has joined #scheme 15:32:52 is anyone using wasp lisp? 15:33:33 homie [~levgue@xdsl-78-35-151-130.netcologne.de] has joined #scheme 15:35:07 wbooze [~levgue@xdsl-78-35-151-130.netcologne.de] has joined #scheme 15:39:36 -!- replore [~replore@ntkngw592034.kngw.nt.ftth.ppp.infoweb.ne.jp] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:48:00 -!- alfa_y_omega [~alfa_y_om@89.129.116.150] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 15:49:12 alfa_y_omega [~alfa_y_om@89.129.116.150] has joined #scheme 15:49:55 -!- jrt4__ [~jrtaylori@207-118-119-104.dyn.centurytel.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:50:13 jrtayloriv [~jrtaylori@207-118-119-104.dyn.centurytel.net] has joined #scheme 15:51:06 choas [~lars@91.46.183.65] has joined #scheme 15:53:28 fantazo__: AisleRiot's games are written in Guile. :-) 15:53:43 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