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[~swordi@p4FDB188B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #scheme 13:13:39 AtnNn [~welcome@modemcable060.239-177-173.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #scheme 13:21:08 BW^- [~Miranda@bl8-105-94.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #scheme 13:22:21 acarrico [~acarrico@pppoe-68-142-62-150.gmavt.net] has joined #scheme 13:25:54 SeanTAllen [~SeanTAlle@cpe-98-14-83-126.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #scheme 13:26:24 Axius [~darkstar@92.82.78.224] has joined #scheme 13:30:04 femtoo [~femto@95-89-249-242-dynip.superkabel.de] has joined #scheme 13:34:28 lolcow [~lolcow@196-215-63-208.dynamic.isadsl.co.za] has joined #scheme 13:36:04 -!- leppie [~lolcow@196-215-63-208.dynamic.isadsl.co.za] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:36:28 -!- lolcow is now known as leppie 13:38:08 So, I've got this procedure to find the divisors of a number, and it's pretty nice and fast, but sometimes it repeats divisors: http://paste.lisp.org/display/121131 13:38:30 Like (divisors 100) gives (1 2 4 5 10 50 25 20 10) but obviously I only want 10 once 13:38:37 What's the best way to do this? 13:38:38 osoleve [~osoleve@adsl-074-166-228-237.sip.bct.bellsouth.net] has joined #scheme 13:38:44 http://www.reddit.com/r/scheme/comments/ghjrn/want_to_review_scheme_9_from_empty_space_get_a/ 13:38:45 http://tinyurl.com/3zyskws 13:38:46 Completely scrap the algorithm and think harder? 13:42:08 -!- osoleve [~osoleve@adsl-074-166-228-237.sip.bct.bellsouth.net] has left #scheme 13:42:19 I could obviously check for and remove repeats, but that would be expensive if I need to get the divisors of a lot of numbers (I do) 13:43:31 -!- BW^- [~Miranda@bl8-105-94.dsl.telepac.pt] has quit [Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org] 13:45:19 I wish I knew enough C to read S9fES 13:45:29 I've tried, but I need to level up more first 13:45:31 -!- nilg` [~user@77.70.2.229] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:47:33 -!- homie` [~levgue@xdsl-78-35-184-133.netcologne.de] has quit [Quit: ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)] 13:55:03 -!- nilg [~user@77.70.2.229] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:56:14 -!- dzhus [~sphinx@93-80-213-217.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:56:24 -!- Tippenein [~chatzilla@97.65.218.4] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86.1 [Firefox 3.6.16/20110319135224]] 13:59:45 dzhus [~sphinx@93-80-213-217.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #scheme 14:04:03 nilg [~user@77.70.2.229] has joined #scheme 14:08:30 elon [~elon@D97B19AC.cm-3-4a.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined #scheme 14:08:57 tauntaun [~Crumpet@64.134.66.17] has joined #scheme 14:12:41 I'm reading SICP, and I need to create a test(good-enough?) to check if the square root calculation is accurate. I call sqrt-iter like this: (sqrt-iter 1.0 5.0 9.0). But, then I get a zerodivision error. I can't figure out why 14:13:06 past your code 14:13:20 I forgot: http://pastebin.com/2wGW9pUH 14:13:41 And, I call it by (sqrt-iter 1.0 9.0 5.0), not (sqrt-iter 1.0 5.0 9.0) 14:14:08 tippenein [~chatzilla@97.65.218.4] has joined #scheme 14:16:11 JuanDaugherty [~Ren@cpe-72-228-177-92.buffalo.res.rr.com] has joined #scheme 14:16:28 if there were a sbcl of scheme what would it be? 14:16:47 -!- chxane [~chxane@c-76-124-17-190.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 14:17:15 my first guess is MIT 14:17:28 -!- nilg [~user@77.70.2.229] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:17:58 JuanDaugherty: few people will understand the question, I guess. 14:18:53 OK, I guess I mean free, majority/consensus of support in the developer community, etc. 14:19:54 the solution for X in, X is to scheme as sbcl is to common lisp 14:20:07 the developer community seems to consist mainly of people working on their own scheme implementations. 14:20:18 nilg [~user@77.70.2.229] has joined #scheme 14:20:36 srsly? 14:20:42 no, not really. 14:20:56 but I don't think there is a dominant scheme in the sense you describe 14:21:02 nil is an acceptable answer 14:21:11 -!- emporas [~emporas@athedsl-173648.home.otenet.gr] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 14:21:49 sbcl is shy of dominance in CL, but that is sort of what I meant 14:22:54 I'm hardly an expert, just reporting my impression. 14:23:33 *JuanDaugherty* looks for a solid llvm back-ended implementation, iirc there are candidates 14:23:33 -!- ASau` [~user@93-80-218-22.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:23:48 zmv [~daniel@c934ad95.virtua.com.br] has joined #scheme 14:25:45 ASau` [~user@95-24-140-205.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #scheme 14:31:34 I guess the answer is Racket. 14:31:56 what's the question? 14:33:07 X is to scheme as sbcl is to common lisp 14:33:29 JuanDaugherty: Note that SBCL while a prominent implementation is not neccesarily the most popular in some platforms. 14:33:44 nor for every use 14:33:48 JuanDaugherty: in which sense? 14:34:05 the general one zmv 14:34:18 popularity? compatibility? features? 14:34:36 (i.e. it lacks threads on Windows, and are experimental on Mac and FreeBSD) 14:34:48 Racket? 14:35:24 (i only an interested really in linux, osx is nice but not necessary) 14:35:33 *i am 14:35:58 Windows doesn't get that much respect these days 14:35:58 -!- swordi [~swordi@p4FDB188B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 14:36:27 had to laugh when I saw they were filing anticompetitive charges against google 14:37:58 bgs100 [~ian@unaffiliated/bgs100] has joined #scheme 14:38:01 Racket seems to be assertively rejecting scheme standardization, or perhaps I'm misinterpreting 14:39:13 ok, yeah racket implies embrace and extend and looks like they have core compliance 14:47:13 and guess I just forgot about the algol 60 implementation 14:51:22 -!- Oabl [~Oabl@167.Red-88-22-219.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Quit: Oabl] 14:56:40 tupi [~david@189.60.162.71] has joined #scheme 14:58:43 -!- gravicappa [~gravicapp@ppp91-77-171-36.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:59:08 masm [~masm@bl19-197-181.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #scheme 15:05:20 JuanDaugherty: racket doesn't have anything to do with LLVM afaik 15:05:45 -!- dzhus [~sphinx@93-80-213-217.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Quit: -_-] 15:06:32 dzhus [~sphinx@93-80-213-217.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #scheme 15:15:47 leo2007 [~leo@2402:f000:5:2901:225:4bff:fea9:b9e4] has joined #scheme 15:16:22 dzhus89 [~sphinx@95-25-86-72.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #scheme 15:16:28 -!- dzhus89 [~sphinx@95-25-86-72.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:17:37 -!- dzhus [~sphinx@93-80-213-217.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 15:17:52 dzhus89 [~sphinx@95-25-86-72.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #scheme 15:20:10 bremner, no apparently not, though haven't exhaustively determined the situation. If racket is implemented in scheme then there are scheme 2 llvm translators of some value. 15:22:45 -!- dzhus89 [~sphinx@95-25-86-72.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Quit: Yow! Legally-imposed CULTURE-reduction is CABBAGE-BRAINED!] 15:23:47 racket has a bytecode-interpreter and a jit 15:25:10 racket is mainly implemented in racket, although there is some C core (maybe some C++ bits) 15:25:42 dzhus [~sphinx@95-25-86-72.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #scheme 15:25:48 the jit compiles to bytecodes? 15:25:59 no, to realcode 15:26:27 as I understand it, anyway. 15:26:35 dnolen [~davidnole@184.152.69.75] has joined #scheme 15:26:50 by which you mean machine operators, x86, etc.? 15:26:54 yes 15:27:00 Racket has a C core at the bottom, and uses it to bootstrap the whole racket library. 15:27:12 it compiles to bytecode that gets JITed to machine code. 15:27:24 right 15:27:48 so that would be the path to an llvm backend 15:28:04 why llvm? 15:28:04 I think there are easier paths if llvm is your main goal 15:28:20 yeah, you could use Chicken, it compiles to C. 15:29:52 or you could use the scheme to llvm translator you mentioned. Aren't you done at that point? 15:29:52 for the obvious reason DT, because a purpose built or platform VM can be targetted 15:30:37 bremner, from a managerial viewpoint I suppose 15:30:38 -!- dzhus [~sphinx@95-25-86-72.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Quit: Yow! Legally-imposed CULTURE-reduction is CABBAGE-BRAINED!] 15:31:00 (i.e, 3rd level or higher) 15:31:37 dzhus [~sphinx@95-25-86-72.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #scheme 15:33:03 gravicappa [~gravicapp@ppp91-77-171-36.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #scheme 15:36:23 choas [~lars@p578F69E2.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #scheme 15:37:12 I have no idea what you mean by that, if anything serious. 15:40:13 *JuanDaugherty* is enlightened. 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(Or, given a master branch and a branch branch, how do I find the branch point, i.e. the point where the branch diverged from the master?) 22:32:00 git merge-base 22:32:42 Riastradh: re GC: I never thought about that, if you want, I can have another look, maybe I can think of something. Is there a branch for your work? 22:33:41 -!- tauntaun [~Crumpet@64.134.66.17] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 22:36:24 -!- kilimanjaro [~kilimanja@unaffiliated/kilimanjaro] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 22:40:53 Riastradh: yep, what gravicappa said. 22:41:13 *offby1* read gravicappa is "grappa" 22:41:23 ecraven, gee, I don't know how to publish a branch temporarily, since my attempts at putting a repository on mumble.net were met with disaster. 22:41:49 i'd happily use any free version control system you use 22:41:53 I can probably push a branch to the main MIT Scheme repository, but that sounds scary. 22:41:59 Well, I'm using Git. 22:42:12 i can probably setup a repository that you can push into 22:48:14 -!- gravicappa [~gravicapp@ppp91-77-189-10.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:51:35 jproctor_ [~jproctor@c-98-192-77-212.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 22:56:30 Riastradh: For temporary uses it's easier to create an account on github or something and clone your branched repository there. 23:00:41 -!- jproctor_ [~jproctor@c-98-192-77-212.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:04:18 I don't want to deal with registering accounts... 23:06:58 SeanTAllen [~SeanTAlle@cpe-98-14-83-126.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #scheme 23:08:33 *offby1* rolls eyes 23:12:57 *bremner* picks up offby1's eyes and pops them on ice 23:14:49 `git clone --bare -b foo repo repo.git' fills repo.git with all the branches from repo. How do I make it just have the one branch foo? 23:15:04 don't think you can limit it like that 23:15:18 cloning, if I understand correctly, snags more or less all the commits and refs from the remote 23:15:35 Riastradh: created an empty repo and push the one branch to it 23:21:12 kennyd [~kennyd@93-138-12-136.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #scheme 23:21:15 -!- teurastaja [~netwalker@modemcable182.177-200-24.mc.videotron.ca] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 23:21:54 -!- kennyd_ [~kennyd@93-138-248-131.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 23:24:05 Somelauw [~laurent@unaffiliated/somelauw] has joined #scheme 23:31:52 kilimanjaro [~kilimanja@unaffiliated/kilimanjaro] has joined #scheme 23:32:25 lolcow [~lolcow@196-215-63-208.dynamic.isadsl.co.za] has joined #scheme 23:32:40 pumpkin [~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod] has joined #scheme 23:34:05 rrm3_ [~rrm3@rrm3.org] has joined #scheme 23:34:49 dsmith_ [~dsmith@66.178.229.162] has joined #scheme 23:35:22 gnomon_ 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