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They're still sleeping. 04:22:53 -!- corruptmemory [~jim@ool-18bbd5b2.static.optonline.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 04:29:08 fds: How about concurrency and parallel APIs for Scheme? 04:29:26 arcfide: I don't know anything about them. :-| 04:29:35 arcfide: Please, feel free to enlighten me. :-) 04:29:54 Or, we could discuss the merits of Unicode in Scheme code texts. :-) 04:30:13 Such as using  or some such. 04:30:44 That sounds like a topic contentious enough to get someone talking! 04:30:57 My latest hack has been to remap my AltGr bindings to the APL keyboard. *evil laughter* 04:32:27 Heh 04:32:49 *fds* is afraid of APL 04:33:11 I have this unhealthy fascination with it. 04:33:31 I have been slowly implementing it as a library for Scheme. 04:35:04 -!- vu3rdd [~vu3rdd@fsf/member/vu3rdd] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 04:35:06 Cool :-D 04:35:17 Well, we will see if it ever gets finished. 04:36:13 2 04:36:34 Hello foof. 04:37:23 -!- tupi [~david@189.60.162.71] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 04:37:44 -!- blueadept [~blueadept@unaffiliated/blueadept] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:38:33 hey 04:41:03 blueadept [~blueadept@unaffiliated/blueadept] has joined #scheme 04:43:13 Checkie [11602@unaffiliated/checkie] has joined #scheme 04:43:58 -!- bokr [~eduska@109.110.56.51] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 04:45:44 -!- davazp [~user@15.Red-83-57-38.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:45:44 So, I've been attempting to read the original Lambda Papers recently 04:46:04 Lisps were weird back then :-P 04:46:15 That's my insight so far 04:52:40 They were. 04:52:43 Some still are. 04:56:34 Oh, in fact, I was wondering if there were any Schemes implemented in a language other than C or Java? 04:56:51 Just out of idle curiosity 04:57:00 What do you mean? 04:57:09 Many Schemes are written almost entirely in Scheme. 04:57:28 Right, the `almost' is the bit I'm interested in 04:57:33 There is one I know of written in Assembly. 04:57:41 Which? 04:58:18 Because, reading all these old papers, most stuff is implemented in assembly or another Lisp 04:58:27 I was curious if anyoe still did that 04:58:48 Because, as far as I know, most modern Common Lisps are even partially implemented in C, aren't they? 04:59:08 *fds* shrugs 04:59:25 http://www.stripedgazelle.org/joey/dream.html 05:00:22 C is a very good way to implement some bootstrapping code, but you might be surprised just how small that C portion is. 05:01:43 Well, I've tried looking at the source code of Guile, MIT Scheme and Chicken, but it's a bit overwhelming for me. I haven't had much C experience at all 05:02:15 MIT Scheme and Chicken both have large Scheme->C components. 05:02:23 However, a lot of MIT Scheme is just Scheme. 05:02:41 I think the microcode area is the only C code. 05:02:57 Excepting maybe Edwin. 05:03:04 Yeah, maybe they weren't the best implementations to pick. But, I'm not sure where else to look. 05:03:25 Are you trying to see how a Scheme is written? 05:03:25 Perhaps Scheme48 or something? I think I remember someone saying that it was elegantly implemented 05:03:31 Yeah, I guess 05:03:38 I'm just curious. :-) 05:04:02 You could read SICP, and then you could see about Lisp in Small Pieces. 05:04:20 You could also take the compilers course at IU. ;-) 05:05:00 I've read a lot of SICP, including bits of the compiler section 05:05:04 Chibi Scheme is also supposed to be pretty small. 05:05:11 (It's an ongoing project) 05:05:24 And I'm not rich enough for American universities :-P 05:05:30 There is s9fes, too, which is written for Plan9. 05:06:00 Hm, yeah, I should look at that again 05:06:04 http://www.sacrideo.us/s9fes/ 05:06:17 I remember stumbling upon that a while ago 05:06:27 There is a book that goes along with it. 05:07:21 Anyways, I had better turn in for the day. 05:07:23 Good luck. 05:07:30 -!- arcfide [1000@c-69-136-0-72.hsd1.in.comcast.net] has left #scheme 05:08:06 ...Thanks 05:09:17 -!- masm [~masm@bl16-170-191.dsl.telepac.pt] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 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