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#scheme 18:22:42 -!- PascalHu` is now known as PascalHunger 18:28:05 femtoo [~femto@95-89-248-249-dynip.superkabel.de] has joined #scheme 18:34:07 -!- mmc [~michal@cs190095.pp.htv.fi] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 18:36:56 saccade [~saccade@dhcp-18-111-43-12.dyn.mit.edu] has joined #scheme 18:42:16 Whats the most popular way people make websites in scheme? 18:47:18 php 18:47:20 *FurnaceBoy* runz 18:48:38 PascalHunger: Racket has some nice material ... (I don't use it tho) http://docs.racket-lang.org/web-server/index.html 18:56:16 -!- cpressey [~catseye@adsl-99-94-155-109.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Disconnected by services] 18:56:35 -!- cpressey_ is now known as cpressey 18:56:54 -!- pnkfelix [~Adium@c-71-225-45-140.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 18:58:25 choas [~lars@p5792CDC4.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #scheme 19:01:39 -!- dzhus [~sphinx@95-27-85-31.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:03:30 EbiDK [~ebi@3e6b7ac3.rev.stofanet.dk] has joined #scheme 19:03:41 RageOfThou [~RageOfTho@users-33-92.vinet.ba] has joined #scheme 19:04:31 dzhus [~sphinx@95-24-2-44.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #scheme 19:04:41 -!- alvatar [~alvatar@230.127.222.87.dynamic.jazztel.es] has quit [Quit: leaving] 19:05:51 grettke [~grettke@cpe-65-30-30-255.wi.res.rr.com] has joined #scheme 19:06:05 jcowan [c6b912cf@gateway/web/freenode/ip.198.185.18.207] has joined #scheme 19:08:04 -!- MrFahrenheit [~RageOfTho@users-55-127.vinet.ba] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 19:08:56 FurnaceBoy: FurnaceBoy Have you used it at all? 19:11:19 -!- EbiDK [~ebi@3e6b7ac3.rev.stofanet.dk] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 19:14:28 EbiDK [~ebi@3e6b7ac3.rev.stofanet.dk] has joined #scheme 19:15:30 -!- EbiDK [~ebi@3e6b7ac3.rev.stofanet.dk] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:17:07 PascalHunger, you can find people who use the Racket web server in #racket as well as here 19:18:04 EbiDK [~ebi@3e6b7ac3.rev.stofanet.dk] has joined #scheme 19:20:25 -!- saccade [~saccade@dhcp-18-111-43-12.dyn.mit.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 19:21:13 PascalHunger: Chicken has some things for web programming too: http://wiki.call-cc.org/chicken-projects/egg-index-4.html#web 19:22:31 Regarding to what's more popular, it's hard to say. Scheme is not very popular, to start with... :-) 19:25:52 mario-goulart: I would say scheme is pretty popular, something non popular would be like think hard now ____ 19:27:30 -!- EbiDK [~ebi@3e6b7ac3.rev.stofanet.dk] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 19:27:40 sedeki [~sedeki@c80-216-168-140.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #scheme 19:28:21 saccade [~saccade@BRAIN-AND-COG-THREE-TEN.MIT.EDU] has joined #scheme 19:32:10 -!- femtoo [~femto@95-89-248-249-dynip.superkabel.de] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:33:26 EbiDK [~ebi@3e6b7ac3.rev.stofanet.dk] has joined #scheme 19:33:54 J, fortress, agda? plenty more obscure languages where those came from 19:45:15 -!- HG` [~HG@xdsl-188-118-131-140.dip.osnanet.de] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 19:47:38 Factor 19:47:53 Prolog and Mercury and other constraint solvers 19:48:36 well, people have at least heard of prolog. 19:48:37 Oz 19:51:16 Clean 19:51:30 XD 19:51:32 Clean! 19:51:47 They made me program in that at uni 19:52:07 (because the teachers had a hand in creating that) 19:53:22 APL, Joy 19:54:01 CDL3 19:55:05 ATS (which I haven't managed to grok yet) 19:55:08 sjamaan, did you go to Nimeijen? 19:55:15 samth: Nijmegen 19:55:17 yes 19:55:39 ashawley [~user@72.237.48.100] has joined #scheme 19:55:41 i can never spell dutch 19:56:36 Start with German, then add misspellings. 19:56:38 *chandler* ducks 19:56:40 hehe 19:56:51 chandler: lisppaste seems to have some trouble 19:57:06 WSOD when posting something, and the bot isn't here 19:57:28 how can i "trace()" within a procedure? 19:57:42 where do i assign it? 19:57:56 never mind* 19:58:04 sjamaan: Hm. 19:58:23 lisppaste [~lisppaste@common-lisp.net] has joined #scheme 19:58:26 \o/ 19:58:32 lisppaste: welcome back! 19:58:37 lisppaste needs help, but nobody's helping. 20:02:28 chandler: be a native English speaker, learn German, then get drunk at the border of Germany and it's northernmost neighbors 20:02:40 Dutch will fall out of your mouth without even trying hard 20:02:58 it works vice versa if you're a native German speaker 20:03:16 PascalHunger: no 20:06:03 rushfan [~rushfan@c-71-232-0-154.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 20:06:09 Adamant: I wonder if there are any other areas where that kind of alcohol-induced geographical-linguistic interpolation works. 20:06:54 -!- rushfan [~rushfan@c-71-232-0-154.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has left #scheme 20:06:56 well you need three related languages, with one in the middle being a mixture of the other two 20:07:13 Italian being halfway between Spanish and Romanian, maybe? 20:07:44 (yeah, Romanian is Latin. look at their name!) 20:07:55 bgs100 [~ian@unaffiliated/bgs100] has joined #scheme 20:08:54 sadly the Iberian peninsula is too small for that to work, only two related languages anyone cares about 20:09:09 Basque is just weird 20:09:15 hmm 20:09:22 maybe Catalan? 20:09:23 dunno 20:09:44 Spanish-Catalan-French? 20:09:46 stis [~stis@1-1-1-39a.veo.vs.bostream.se] has joined #scheme 20:14:56 -!- grettke [~grettke@cpe-65-30-30-255.wi.res.rr.com] has quit [] 20:22:53 Adamant: have you forgotten portuguese? 20:23:00 and yeah Basque isn't related to Ltin 20:23:02 Latin* 20:23:54 FurnaceBoy: Spanish-Portuguese doesn't work 20:24:00 nothing in the middle I know of 20:24:13 right, but Sp Pt Fr make an interesting triangle... 20:30:22 -!- dzhus [~sphinx@95-24-2-44.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:30:39 museun [what@c-98-252-142-252.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 20:31:05 wbooze` [~user@xdsl-87-79-170-155.netcologne.de] has joined #scheme 20:31:13 homie` [~user@xdsl-87-79-170-155.netcologne.de] has joined #scheme 20:33:28 -!- homie [~user@xdsl-84-44-239-33.netcologne.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 20:34:00 -!- wbooze [~user@xdsl-84-44-239-33.netcologne.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 20:35:28 bashyal [~bashyal@208.42.136.59] has joined #scheme 20:48:40 -!- hypercube31 [~hypercube@66.90.18.146] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:13:38 ccl-logbot [~ccl-logbo@setf.clozure.com] has joined #scheme 21:13:38 21:13:38 -!- names: ccl-logbot museun stis bgs100 lisppaste ashawley EbiDK saccade sedeki RageOfThou choas vu3rdd Maxel gravicappa MichaelRaskin hohoho masm DrDuck Blkt jonrafkind chittoor cpressey ASau luz bweaver Fare jmcphers PascalHunger pjb mbohun pavelludiq futilius rudybot Nshag ski nowhereman leppie kniu rdd Hal9k timj easy4 specbot xwl_ franki^ preflex FurnaceBoy rbarraud Obfuscate mornfall minion snorble qebab Crito_ metasyntax`` Adamant samth bremner yosafbridge 21:13:38 -!- names: pumpkin ToxicFrog stepnem niko pchrist_ Intensity martinhex emma chandler gnomon_ lusory metasyntax` jao Zol stamourv vinnana copumpkin WLen_ alexsuraci githogori rmrfchik Modius jensn_ eno roderic incubot clog Pepe_ nasloc__ Axioplase offby1 acarrico elf_ Crito duncanm gabot adzuci nome ineiros Adrinael zeroish mario-goulart jay-mccarthy ray bzzbzz_ antoszka cipher felipe elly tessier fda314925 wgd jeff_ eli eldragon f3xy rotty Leonidas inimino Kovensky 21:13:38 -!- names: Khisanth sloyd alexand3r shawnps ecraven aoh `micro rrm3 klutometis cky dfeuer joast tonyg sjamaan foof weinholt sir_lewk rapacity zbigniew certainty C-Keen saccade_ jimster tizoc danking_ DerGuteMoritz spacebat shardz 21:16:14 -!- saccade [~saccade@BRAIN-AND-COG-THREE-TEN.MIT.EDU] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 21:26:24 -!- easy4 [~easy4@c-174-60-36-128.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: easy4] 21:26:47 -!- vu3rdd [~vu3rdd@122.167.110.52] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:38:28 -!- dfeuer [~dfeuer@wikimedia/Dfeuer] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 21:43:11 dfeuer [~dfeuer@pool-71-178-183-35.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has joined #scheme 21:43:11 -!- dfeuer [~dfeuer@pool-71-178-183-35.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Changing host] 21:43:11 dfeuer [~dfeuer@wikimedia/Dfeuer] has joined #scheme 21:49:36 -!- ashawley [~user@72.237.48.100] has quit [Quit: #emacs nonsense] 21:57:36 lbc [~lbc@0909ds1-sdb.0.fullrate.dk] has joined #scheme 21:59:55 alaricsp [~alaric@relief.warhead.org.uk] has joined #scheme 22:01:22 -!- jonrafkind [~jon@crystalis.cs.utah.edu] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 22:05:49 -!- stis [~stis@1-1-1-39a.veo.vs.bostream.se] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:08:49 -!- jao [~user@253.Red-213-98-193.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:10:02 -!- lbc [~lbc@0909ds1-sdb.0.fullrate.dk] has quit [Quit: lbc] 22:16:21 -!- DrDuck [~duck@146.229.119.79] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 22:28:19 pflanze [~chrissbx@69-196-152-229.dsl.teksavvy.com] has joined #scheme 22:29:08 Hello. I asked this about 1-2 years ago, then just gave up and used emacs21 all the time till now: 22:29:26 what could I use instead of ilisp's reindent-lisp function? 22:29:42 (ilisp doesn't exist anymore for newer emacs releases) 22:29:57 The function does the following two things. 22:30:05 -!- ToxicFrog [~ToxicFrog@2607:f2c0:f00e:500:222:15ff:fe91:b24c] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:30:07 - it reindents every line of the function 22:30:44 drdo [~user@98.192.108.93.rev.vodafone.pt] has joined #scheme 22:30:45 - it adds or removes closing paranthesis to make the s-expression starting at the left most column be closed correctly. 22:31:00 parentheses 22:31:23 Have you looked into paredit? 22:31:29 minion: tell pflanze about paredit 22:31:30 pflanze: please see paredit: a set of Emacs commands, with a minor mode for convenient access to them, for editing balanced S-expressions and a number of higher-level operations on S-expressions, at ; see also the #paredit channel 22:31:44 No, but people that are using it told me that it doesn't do both of the above. 22:32:20 It's a bit different in that it will ensure that your parens always balanced; thus the second requirement is a non-issue if you use it. 22:32:30 How will it ensure that? 22:32:50 I'm already using functions to do that I think. 22:33:01 Inserting an opening paren automatically inserts a matching closing paren. 22:33:13 That's insert-parentheses 22:33:21 which I'm using. 22:33:34 Also I'm using move-past-close-and-reindent 22:34:15 I don't know what those are, so I'm afraid I can't help. (I switched from ILISP to SLIME shortly after SLIME was forked from SLIM.) 22:34:58 I'm also using forward-sexp, backward-sexp, up-list, backward-down-list, for navigating s-exprs. 22:35:00 easy4 [~easy4@c-174-60-36-128.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 22:35:28 So I still have no idea what paredit offers on top. But I guess I'll have to find out by running it. 22:41:52 (By reading the description, it really doesn't seem to have the reindent and paren fixing) 22:42:50 What do you do if you have to *fix* code, not writing fresh expressions? 22:43:00 -!- bweaver [~user@75-148-111-133-Chattanooga.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has quit [Quit: ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)] 22:43:40 That's when I happen to delete parentheses, and/or move subexpressions around, and afterwards that needs a paren fixup for the former, and a reindent for the latter. 22:44:36 -!- Intensity [iDkvzSRkOj@unaffiliated/intensity] has quit [Quit: Intensity] 22:45:03 I can't belive just rebinding ( ) and " will make this need go away. 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