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[~user@ppp91-76-56-169.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:37:25 SICP is still a good intruduction to programming? this book has over than 30 year old 13:37:36 ASau [~user@ppp91-76-56-169.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #scheme 13:38:10 why MIT change from Scheme to Python? 13:39:21 -!- ASau [~user@ppp91-76-56-169.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:39:49 ASau [~user@ppp91-76-56-169.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #scheme 13:42:09 luz [~davids@186.205.48.47] has joined #scheme 13:42:28 -!- ASau [~user@ppp91-76-56-169.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:42:54 ASau [~user@ppp91-76-56-169.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #scheme 13:43:10 gravicappa [~gravicapp@91.78.230.177] has joined #scheme 13:43:48 -!- ASau [~user@ppp91-76-56-169.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:44:11 ASau [~user@ppp91-76-56-169.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #scheme 13:44:49 rufuskart: http://www.wisdomandwonder.com/link/2110/why-mit-switched-from-scheme-to-python 13:44:50 -rudybot:#scheme- http://tinyurl.com/dmr7po 13:44:58 rufuskart: basically: bad reasons. 13:45:49 but SICP is still a good book to read? after all it have more than 30 year old 13:45:57 -!- ASau [~user@ppp91-76-56-169.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:46:23 ASau [~user@ppp91-76-56-169.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #scheme 13:46:31 Read it and judge for yourself. 13:46:38 rufuskart: yes. It's the CS book of the century. 13:46:51 That's a massive overstatement. 13:47:02 rufuskart: you'd read SICP and GEB, and you could forget everything else. 13:47:41 GEB? 13:47:51 -!- ASau [~user@ppp91-76-56-169.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:48:05 minion: tell rufuskart about GEB 13:48:06 Sorry, I couldn't find anything in the database for ``GEB''. 13:48:10 ASau [~user@ppp91-76-56-169.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #scheme 13:48:18 geb is, like, the book _Goedel, Escher, Bach_ by Douglas R. Hofstadter 13:48:21 fsbot knew it! 13:48:44 CS for hipsters 13:48:46 minion: GEB is the book "Goedel, Escher, Bach" by Douglas R. Hofstadter 13:48:47 i agree - geb is the book goedel escher bach by douglas r hofstadter 13:49:34 what talk about GEB? 13:49:53 i read in some review that SICP is to mathy it is true? i am not a hardcore in math 13:50:09 That's like calling a convertible too windy. 13:50:39 rufuskart: that's false. There's almost no maths in SICP. 13:51:00 ok 13:51:01 There's a single case where rationals are used as an example; but it's a little example in a small part of a chapter. 13:51:05 Since you don't mind reading, just go read it yourself. It's freely available. 13:51:20 Note that pjb is blatantly lying there. 13:51:23 Moreover the great advantage of sicp is that you can watch the videos. 13:51:38 TCAOP is full of maths, yes. But not SICP. 13:51:48 TAOCP I mean. 13:52:43 what GEB talks about? 13:52:55 I read it, and I still don't know 13:53:00 rufuskart: The title says it. 13:53:37 Like, something about zeno, maaan 13:53:41 minion: GEB is the book "Gödel, Escher, Bach: An Eternal Golden Braid" by Douglas R. Hofstadter. 13:53:41 i agree - geb is the book gã¶del escher bach an eternal golden braid by douglas r hofstadter 13:53:58 Zeno, recursion, complexity. 13:54:07 minion: GEB is the book "Goedel, Escher, Bach: An Eternal Golden Braid" by Douglas R. Hofstadter. 13:54:07 i don't agree - geb isn't the book goedel escher bach an eternal golden braid by douglas r hofstadter 13:54:24 -!- ASau [~user@ppp91-76-56-169.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:54:50 ASau [~user@ppp91-76-56-169.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #scheme 13:55:15 in what language was write the minion 13:55:21 Common Lisp. 13:55:29 minion: where are your sources? 13:55:30 behind you! 13:55:32 :-) 13:55:41 minion: what are you written in? 13:55:42 i'm written in common lisp 13:56:28 -!- ASau [~user@ppp91-76-56-169.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:56:44 you guys love (()) 13:56:46 http://www.cliki.net/minion 13:56:48 ASau [~user@ppp91-76-56-169.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #scheme 13:57:35 minion: sources? 13:57:36 sources: minion-sources: http://www.cliki.net/minion 14:00:05 -!- ASau [~user@ppp91-76-56-169.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:00:27 ASau [~user@ppp91-76-56-169.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #scheme 14:00:27 rufuskart: actually, what we love are macros. 14:00:44 Unfortunately, this theme is a little under represented in sicp. 14:00:57 minion: tell rufuskart about spels 14:00:58 rufuskart: direct your attention towards spels: Casting SPELs in Lisp, an introduction to macros, is at http://www.lisperati.com/casting.html 14:02:07 SICP is all about abstraction. Macros are use for syntactic abstraction, which can be used to integrate metalinguistic abstractions in the current language (without having to rewrite a whole new language), and to help hidding simple syntactic duplications. 14:02:20 -!- ASau [~user@ppp91-76-56-169.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:02:39 -!- masm [~masm@bl15-76-104.dsl.telepac.pt] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 14:02:41 ASau [~user@ppp91-76-56-169.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #scheme 14:02:59 rufuskart: the point is that parentheses are essential for macros. 14:03:28 i know the basics of scheme 14:03:36 ok. 14:03:41 conds, defines stuff like that 14:03:49 but it is still a bit confunsing 14:04:14 -!- ASau [~user@ppp91-76-56-169.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:04:50 ASau [~user@ppp91-76-56-169.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #scheme 14:04:54 hohoho [~hohoho@ntkngw229253.kngw.nt.ftth.ppp.infoweb.ne.jp] has joined #scheme 14:04:55 Without parentheses, the macros would have to know the syntax, to know where each subexpression starts and ends. For standard forms it would be ok, but what about user defined macros? 14:05:12 -!- ASau [~user@ppp91-76-56-169.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:05:46 ASau [~user@ppp91-76-56-169.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #scheme 14:08:16 -!- ASau [~user@ppp91-76-56-169.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:08:53 ASau [~user@ppp91-76-56-169.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #scheme 14:11:11 davazp [~user@103.Red-88-8-226.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #scheme 14:13:20 -!- ASau [~user@ppp91-76-56-169.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:14:02 ASau [~user@ppp91-76-56-169.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #scheme 14:16:22 -!- ASau [~user@ppp91-76-56-169.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:16:28 masm [~masm@bl19-146-223.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #scheme 14:17:09 ASau [~user@ppp91-76-56-169.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #scheme 14:23:52 Crito [crito@unaffiliated/crito] has joined #scheme 14:23:52 -!- ASau [~user@ppp91-76-56-169.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:24:13 ASau [~user@ppp91-76-56-169.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #scheme 14:33:18 can someone explain to me this code? http://pastebin.com/q8Hj4wQK 14:34:07 yes, it is newtons algorithm 14:34:29 what i dont get it this 14:34:32 # (define (good-enough? guess x) # (< (abs (- (square guess) x))0.001)) 14:34:44 what is not to get? 14:35:08 I don't even know scheme, and I can see that defines a function of two parameters that expands into a comparison 14:35:46 -!- kingping [~kp@95.70.92.181] has quit [Quit: Vale.] 14:35:46 rufuskart: just take it step by step, from the top down. 14:36:37 what i dont get is why we need so subtract the square of guess by x 14:37:23 well, ask newton, fundementally. That is how the distance to the solution is measured 14:37:42 ok 14:37:44 EbiDK [~ebi@3e6b7ac3.rev.stofanet.dk] has joined #scheme 14:37:46 rufuskart: maybe it would help to write it down as an equation 14:38:14 maybe 14:38:22 probably heresy on this channel, but I would write in traditional algebraic form 14:38:41 |x - g^2| 14:38:58 you give this at school? 14:39:02 so think about taking square root of both terms. 14:39:02 *learn 14:39:08 rufuskart: both 14:39:19 i never did 14:39:32 yeah, newtons algorithm is pretty standard for any numerical algorithms course 14:39:54 we teach it in second year algorithms and data structures now. 14:40:39 anyway, gotta go paint the deck. Wikipedia can probably tell you more about Newton's algorithm. 14:41:05 i am still in high school 14:48:28 dudes SICP is all maths 14:49:40 Well, that's what computers were largely used for 30 years ago. 14:50:40 yeah but my maths skill is very limited 14:50:55 -!- MrFahrenheit [~RageOfTho@users-55-245.vinet.ba] has quit [Read error: No route to host] 14:51:15 MrFahrenheit [~RageOfTho@users-55-245.vinet.ba] has joined #scheme 14:51:17 If you think it is, then you might want to read something else. 14:52:05 can you recommend something? 14:56:59 -!- Modius [~Modius@cpe-24-28-30-165.austin.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: I'm big in Japan] 15:05:56 -!- Ppjet6 [~ppjet@ALille-256-1-33-235.w90-18.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 15:11:43 -!- masm [~masm@bl19-146-223.dsl.telepac.pt] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 15:13:28 -!- ASau [~user@ppp91-76-56-169.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 15:13:30 masm [~masm@bl15-135-155.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #scheme 15:24:31 rufuskart: If you can absorb the maths stuff in The Art of Computer Programming, that's pretty much about all you need to know. 15:24:50 rufuskart: However, the maths in TAOCP might make your brain explode even harder. :-P 15:28:40 would ,,htdp be a better recomendation for someone who found sicp too mathy? 15:29:23 minion: what is htdp 15:29:23 what would a bot like me know about htdp ? 15:29:28 *bremner* cires 15:29:33 and cries 15:30:03 http://www.htdp.org/ 15:33:56 -!- masm [~masm@bl15-135-155.dsl.telepac.pt] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 15:34:27 masm [~masm@bl16-180-239.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #scheme 15:35:50 ASau [~user@ppp91-76-56-169.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #scheme 15:37:13 -!- jewel [~jewel@196-215-16-158.dynamic.isadsl.co.za] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 15:43:34 -!- Jafet [~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 15:45:01 -!- masm [~masm@bl16-180-239.dsl.telepac.pt] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 15:45:09 Jafet [~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet] has joined #scheme 15:45:56 masm [~masm@bl16-149-245.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #scheme 15:51:21 smtlaissezfaire [~smtlaisse@user-387hbid.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #scheme 15:52:50 Modius [~Modius@cpe-24-28-30-165.austin.res.rr.com] has joined #scheme 15:59:36 -!- davazp [~user@103.Red-88-8-226.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:10:24 -!- masm [~masm@bl16-149-245.dsl.telepac.pt] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:12:10 masm [~masm@bl16-168-62.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #scheme 16:34:57 metasyntax [~taylor@72.86.89.174] has joined #scheme 16:38:44 jonrafkind [~jon@jonr5.dsl.xmission.com] has joined #scheme 16:45:06 klovett [~klovett@c-67-180-97-38.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 16:59:11 -!- klovett [~klovett@c-67-180-97-38.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: klovett] 17:03:03 klovett [~klovett@c-67-180-97-38.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 17:06:35 bremner: i already know how to program, i just want to evolve 17:06:55 learn Data Strucutres and stuff 17:10:58 -!- gravicappa [~gravicapp@91.78.230.177] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 17:17:39 -!- klovett [~klovett@c-67-180-97-38.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: klovett] 17:18:11 gravicappa [~gravicapp@ppp85-140-65-223.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #scheme 17:19:50 rufuskart: You don't know the maths but claim to know how to program?! ;-O (Just kidding. But, seriously, limited knowledge of maths will limit your knowledge of programming, after a certain point.) 17:20:31 cky: i am still in High School, so my math knolodge is limited 17:21:23 That doesn't stop you from visiting your local university library. ;-) 17:21:59 cky: you gotta start somewhere :P 17:22:08 Adamant: :-) 17:22:24 cky: can you recommend me a book about maths? 17:22:47 rufuskart: what math are you currently taking? 17:22:48 -!- smtlaissezfaire [~smtlaisse@user-387hbid.cable.mindspring.com] has quit [Quit: smtlaissezfaire] 17:23:23 Adamant: i am in 10º grade so i learn, functions, geometry 17:23:31 alright. 17:23:42 next year i will learn Probability 17:23:47 you'll want to learn trig and pre-calc 17:24:07 then calc and discrete/concrete mathmatics (CS version) 17:24:15 probability and statistics are good 17:24:26 increasingly important these days 17:24:27 rufuskart: Aim to study maths above the level you're being taught in the classroom. :-) 17:24:39 Adamant++ for the probability and statistics suggestion. 17:24:43 -!- masm [~masm@bl16-168-62.dsl.telepac.pt] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:24:47 But, I'm biased, as statistics was my major at university. 17:24:48 :-P 17:24:55 -!- ASau [~user@ppp91-76-56-169.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:25:04 trig=sin, con tan i already know it 17:25:05 cky: even for folks that don't like it but have to solve practical problems 17:25:09 it's important 17:25:18 ASau [~user@ppp91-76-56-169.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #scheme 17:25:20 rufuskart: then maybe start on calc 17:25:21 i know equation with 1 x and 2 x 17:25:23 rufuskart: Do you know how to _apply_ trigonometry though? 17:25:41 cky: offcourse, i learn it in 8º 17:25:50 snorble [~snorble@s83-179-14-105.cust.tele2.se] has joined #scheme 17:26:54 Linear algebra, useful for a lot of stuff. 17:27:02 good suggestion 17:27:11 masm [~masm@bl15-232-97.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #scheme 17:27:42 But it depends a lot on what you want to do. 17:27:50 yeah 17:27:58 if you want to do graphics 17:28:00 in Algebra i can only do, question in 1 or 2 degree 17:28:12 No, i want OS Programming 17:28:19 ah 17:28:30 Well... then it's probably more CS:y maths. 17:28:43 well, for graphics physics and the math around physics is very important 17:28:52 but yeah, what jensn said 17:29:40 y maths what is it? 17:29:49 no, that's CS'y 17:29:56 as in, related to CS 17:30:07 (Computer science) 17:30:09 not a branch of math 17:30:16 Was. 17:30:17 ah ok 17:30:25 can you guys recommend me a book on it? 17:30:43 Anything on algorithms and datastructures seems like a good start. 17:30:50 Discrete maths? 17:30:52 rufuskart: Not to blow my own trumpet, but the reason I ask about whether one knows how to apply trig is because of questions like this: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/3659311 17:31:12 rufuskart: Surprisingly many people seem to have "book knowledge" of trig without knowing when to use it. 17:31:25 *doh* 17:32:05 i know apply in math problems 17:32:37 rufuskart: Many programming problems are maths problems in disguise. 17:32:56 s/Many/Most/ 17:33:00 *nods* 17:33:21 cky: programming is just a branch of mathematics, and mathematics is just a branch of programming :P 17:33:37 -!- pchrist_ [~spirit@gentoo/developer/pchrist] has quit [Quit: leaving] 17:33:41 I disagree about the last part. 17:33:48 Adamant: :-) 17:34:06 physics > chemistry > biology > sociology) 17:34:14 jensn: only if you get beyond the computable reals :P 17:34:15 pchrist [~spirit@gentoo/developer/pchrist] has joined #scheme 17:34:18 http://www.amazon.com/Concrete-Mathematics-Foundation-Computer-Science/dp/0201558025/ref=sr_1_22?ie=UTF8&qid=1286126922&sr=8-22 it is a good book? 17:34:19 -rudybot:#scheme- http://tinyurl.com/2ab8wrn 17:34:32 yes 17:34:50 a bit tough sledding, but it and Rosen's book are the standards 17:35:47 rufuskart: work on your knowledge of basic proofs as well 17:35:54 that will help with using that book 17:36:24 proofs? 17:36:41 -!- masm [~masm@bl15-232-97.dsl.telepac.pt] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 17:36:42 rufuskart: if you're doing geometry, are you doing basic geometry proofs? 17:37:09 like, this statement about geometry is true and I show you why by these steps? 17:37:13 i dont know whar is proofs in my native language 17:37:35 rufuskart: Say: proof that the angles of a triangle add up to pi. 17:37:42 *prove 17:37:54 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mathematical_proof 17:38:19 Or, even, prove that the angles of a quadrilateral add up to 2pi. etc., etc., etc. 17:38:25 (Very basic examples, I know. :-P) 17:39:15 guys i need to go, i will digg in my local livrarie :P 17:39:16 Prove that the angles of any n-sided polygon add up to (n-2)*pi. 17:39:17 cya 17:39:20 :sP 17:39:21 :-P 17:39:23 Bye! 17:39:26 :-) 17:39:29 -!- rufuskart [bc5208fa@gateway/web/freenode/ip.188.82.8.250] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 17:40:13 Now when I'm here discussing maths, does anyone know of any Scheme for GPUs? 17:40:38 Or lisp:y language. 17:40:57 So far nothing. 17:41:23 If I hadn't a day job, I would be doing that... 17:41:28 I have been considering trying for a while. 17:41:47 First you'd have to think hard about memory management... 17:42:14 It would obviously be very limited, to get any sort of performance. 17:42:31 Probably the easiest would be to take a purely functional subset to be able to copy easily data from one main memory to the cores. 17:42:52 Yes, that's what I was thinking. 17:44:03 Or at least a subset where all structures are immutable. 17:44:21 And there isn't any need for a GC. 17:44:22 -!- jonrafkind [~jon@jonr5.dsl.xmission.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 17:44:52 lisppaste [~lisppaste@common-lisp.net] has joined #scheme 17:45:43 -!- snorble [~snorble@s83-179-14-105.cust.tele2.se] has quit [Quit: Lämnar] 17:47:44 Oh, well... 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Wonder where eli has gone. Oh well. :-P 18:43:09 Oh, there you are. :-P 18:43:25 irssi's tab completion still gets me. 18:43:36 -!- ASau [~user@ppp91-76-56-169.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:43:58 ASau [~user@ppp91-76-56-169.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #scheme 18:44:04 eli: I'm surprised you didn't just get Doug to come on IRC and let the fine people in this channel explain to him why name-based dispatch is completely broken. :-) 18:44:33 cky: Doug? 18:44:51 eli: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/3844196 18:45:23 eli: You're right in that it's really hard to explain in a sentence or two why such an approach is completely...unworkable. 18:45:40 -!- ASau [~user@ppp91-76-56-169.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:45:42 cky: Ah -- I completey didn't read the name... 18:45:48 *nods* 18:46:02 ASau [~user@ppp91-76-56-169.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #scheme 18:46:11 But yeah, in general it's hard to talk to people about this when they're deep in some PHP-mode. 18:46:11 -!- ASau [~user@ppp91-76-56-169.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:46:19 Quite. *nods* 18:46:22 (And that guy is definitely there.) 18:46:29 Oh, totally, and my comment said so. 18:46:32 ASau [~user@ppp91-76-56-169.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #scheme 18:46:37 I thought "Scheme isn't PHP" would end the conversation, but no. :-P 18:47:31 -!- ASau [~user@ppp91-76-56-169.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:47:39 cky: Ah -- so you're C.J.Y? 18:47:44 Yes. :-) 18:47:50 I missed that too. 18:47:57 Probably because J != K. 18:48:12 ASau [~user@ppp91-76-56-169.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #scheme 18:48:27 eli: :-) I had a name change a few years ago, but didn't change my username. 18:48:47 eli: Before, I was known as "Chris K. Young". These days, "Chris K. Jester-Young". 18:49:17 Well, not that I'll remember any of that in about 12 minutes... 18:49:17 -!- ASau [~user@ppp91-76-56-169.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:49:26 Hehehehehe. 18:49:43 Dealing with usernames I became very connected to whatever name I see. 18:49:45 ASau [~user@ppp91-76-56-169.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #scheme 18:50:01 -!- museun [~what@h-66-167-51-163.atlngahp.dynamic.covad.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:50:29 eli: Sure, and you certainly get used to dealing with Riastadh (say) than "Taylor R. Campbell". 18:50:34 -!- ASau [~user@ppp91-76-56-169.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:50:39 *more used to 18:50:39 Some years ago there was a guy with a vaguely familiar name in the Scheme workshop -- "Eric Hanchrow". 18:50:48 ^-^ 18:50:55 *Riastradh, even. Can't type very well these days. 18:50:56 It took me a non-trivial amount of time to figure that out... 18:51:05 ASau [~user@ppp91-76-56-169.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #scheme 18:51:10 offby1: Are you Eric Hanchrow? I certainly can't identify who that is on this channel. :-P 18:51:20 cky: shh, don't tell anyone 18:51:24 Hehehehehe. 18:52:17 -!- ASau [~user@ppp91-76-56-169.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:52:39 seangrove [~user@c-71-198-44-87.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 18:52:47 ASau [~user@ppp91-76-56-169.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #scheme 18:53:36 -!- ASau [~user@ppp91-76-56-169.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:53:59 ASau [~user@ppp91-76-56-169.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #scheme 18:55:07 -!- ASau [~user@ppp91-76-56-169.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:55:27 Man, the Internet connectivity from Russia must be terrible for ASau to come in and out all the time. :-P 18:55:28 ASau [~user@ppp91-76-56-169.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #scheme 18:55:52 *offby1* hides PARTs, QUITs, JOINs 18:55:58 so I remain ignrant 18:56:01 Smart move. :-) 18:56:05 cnt spl ithr 18:56:20 Much more pleasant IRC experience that way, though, then sometimes I find that I'm responding to someone who's already gone. 18:56:36 Well, I usually use tab completion to tell me who's still around, so no difference really. 18:56:36 -!- ASau [~user@ppp91-76-56-169.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:57:00 ASau [~user@ppp91-76-56-169.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #scheme 18:57:17 uh huh 18:57:21 and I can always say: 18:57:23 rudybot: seen ASau 18:57:24 *offby1: ASau was seen quitting in/on ppp91-76-56-169.pppoe.mtu-net.ru forty-seven seconds ago, saying "Read error: Connection reset by peer", and then ASau was seen joining in/on #scheme twenty-three seconds ago 18:57:36 *nods* 18:58:06 -!- ASau [~user@ppp91-76-56-169.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:58:12 museun [~what@h-66-167-51-163.atlngahp.dynamic.covad.net] has joined #scheme 18:58:19 klovett [~klovett@c-67-180-97-38.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 18:58:38 ASau [~user@ppp91-76-56-169.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #scheme 18:59:12 -!- ASau [~user@ppp91-76-56-169.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:59:34 ASau [~user@ppp91-76-56-169.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #scheme 19:00:51 -!- ASau [~user@ppp91-76-56-169.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:01:00 schmir [~schmir@p54A9102A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #scheme 19:01:07 That's actually a missing feature -- it would be more useful for rudybot to say when he actually talked... 19:01:13 ASau [~user@ppp91-76-56-169.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #scheme 19:01:15 stis [~stis@1-1-1-39a.veo.vs.bostream.se] has joined #scheme 19:01:30 it's always the last two events 19:01:59 -!- ASau [~user@ppp91-76-56-169.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:02:06 so you're suggesting filtering out everything but PRIVMSG? 19:02:56 ASau [~user@ppp91-76-56-169.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #scheme 19:04:01 -!- ASau [~user@ppp91-76-56-169.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:04:26 ASau [~user@ppp91-76-56-169.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #scheme 19:05:38 -!- ASau [~user@ppp91-76-56-169.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:05:44 -!- schmir [~schmir@p54A9102A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 19:06:41 ASau [~user@ppp91-76-56-169.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #scheme 19:07:18 Google fail. :-P 19:07:22 -!- ASau [~user@ppp91-76-56-169.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:07:31 offby1: Yeah -- new events push out the old ones, *except* when it's some automatic event, where it can push out old ones but keep the last non-automatic one. 19:07:46 This way you always have the last activity time and the last interactivity time. 19:08:11 I tried to Google for "object oriented site:racket-lang.org" and hope it would give me something useful about how to write OO code in Racket, but, really, what I was looking for was http://docs.racket-lang.org/guide/classes.html (and I had to search for "generic method site:racket-lang.org" to find it). 19:08:41 But it sounds like what's on that page seems to be the best answer to that PHP-coder's question, so I'll run with it. :-) 19:09:52 ASau [~user@ppp91-76-56-169.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #scheme 19:11:03 -!- ASau [~user@ppp91-76-56-169.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:11:26 ASau [~user@ppp91-76-56-169.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #scheme 19:12:49 -!- ASau [~user@ppp91-76-56-169.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:13:18 ASau [~user@ppp91-76-56-169.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #scheme 19:14:01 -!- ASau [~user@ppp91-76-56-169.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:14:30 ASau [~user@ppp91-76-56-169.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #scheme 19:14:53 -!- ASau [~user@ppp91-76-56-169.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:15:14 ASau [~user@ppp91-76-56-169.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #scheme 19:15:19 eli: Is there any way to access documentation from previous version, especially PLT Scheme 4 or even earlier? 19:15:24 *versions 19:15:56 -!- ASau [~user@ppp91-76-56-169.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:16:19 ASau [~user@ppp91-76-56-169.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #scheme 19:16:43 -!- ASau [~user@ppp91-76-56-169.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:16:49 cky: Yes, but you'll need to go to the old site: http://download.plt-scheme.org/doc/ 19:17:08 ASau [~user@ppp91-76-56-169.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #scheme 19:17:53 -!- ASau [~user@ppp91-76-56-169.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:18:19 ASau [~user@ppp91-76-56-169.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #scheme 19:18:46 -!- ASau [~user@ppp91-76-56-169.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:19:07 ASau [~user@ppp91-76-56-169.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #scheme 19:19:13 eli: Ah, cool. Thanks. :-) 19:19:18 -!- ASau [~user@ppp91-76-56-169.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:19:41 ASau [~user@ppp91-76-56-169.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #scheme 19:19:56 -!- ASau [~user@ppp91-76-56-169.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:20:27 ASau [~user@ppp91-76-56-169.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #scheme 19:21:13 -!- ASau [~user@ppp91-76-56-169.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:21:51 ASau [~user@ppp91-76-56-169.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #scheme 19:22:47 -!- ASau [~user@ppp91-76-56-169.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:23:11 ASau [~user@ppp91-76-56-169.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #scheme 19:24:33 -!- ASau [~user@ppp91-76-56-169.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:24:56 ASau [~user@ppp91-76-56-169.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #scheme 19:25:45 -!- ASau [~user@ppp91-76-56-169.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:26:07 ASau [~user@ppp91-76-56-169.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #scheme 19:27:12 -!- ASau [~user@ppp91-76-56-169.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:27:24 Belaf [~campedel@194.209.131.192] has joined #scheme 19:27:34 ASau [~user@ppp91-76-56-169.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #scheme 19:27:44 -!- Belaf [~campedel@194.209.131.192] has left #scheme 19:28:38 -!- ASau [~user@ppp91-76-56-169.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:29:03 ASau [~user@ppp91-76-56-169.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #scheme 19:29:52 -!- ASau [~user@ppp91-76-56-169.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:30:15 ASau [~user@ppp91-76-56-169.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #scheme 19:30:30 -!- ASau [~user@ppp91-76-56-169.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:30:54 ASau [~user@ppp91-76-56-169.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #scheme 19:31:49 -!- ASau [~user@ppp91-76-56-169.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:32:12 ASau [~user@ppp91-76-56-169.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #scheme 19:32:44 -!- ASau [~user@ppp91-76-56-169.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:33:11 ASau [~user@ppp91-76-56-169.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #scheme 19:33:46 -!- ASau [~user@ppp91-76-56-169.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:33:58 aidalgol [~user@202.36.179.68] has joined #scheme 19:34:13 ASau [~user@ppp91-76-56-169.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #scheme 19:34:52 -!- ASau [~user@ppp91-76-56-169.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:35:14 ASau [~user@ppp91-76-56-169.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #scheme 19:35:41 eli: I'm new to the classes/objects stuff in Racket, so, feel free to critique my post here: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/3851284 :-) 19:35:53 -!- ASau [~user@ppp91-76-56-169.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:36:13 But only if you can be bothered to. I can totally understand if you've had enough of that question (or its poster). 19:36:16 ASau [~user@ppp91-76-56-169.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #scheme 19:36:55 -!- ASau [~user@ppp91-76-56-169.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:37:27 ASau [~user@ppp91-76-56-169.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #scheme 19:37:42 cky: It looks reasonable but I don't think that it'll help the guy -- he's probably obsessed now about some DIY thing, with the whole evaluating cooked symbols and such. 19:38:07 Yeah. *nods* 19:38:30 (Plus, I never do such posts unless Racket is mentioned as what the person uses exclusively... Same on IRC...) 19:38:38 -!- ASau [~user@ppp91-76-56-169.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:39:08 ASau [~user@ppp91-76-56-169.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #scheme 19:39:41 Well, the bottom paragraph of the question links to Racket docs, so I presumed that's what the OP is using. 19:40:17 -!- ASau [~user@ppp91-76-56-169.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:40:49 Then again, I can't say whether they're using it exclusively per se, but then I saw no mention of portability in the question, so. *shrug* 19:40:52 wingo [~wingo@81.38.187.246] has joined #scheme 19:41:28 I should write a GOOPS solution for fun (not for that particular question; that'd be casting pearls to swine), but just in general. 19:41:38 Just because it's a very different style to Racket's OO. :-) 19:42:45 ASau [~user@ppp91-76-56-169.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #scheme 19:43:48 -!- ASau [~user@ppp91-76-56-169.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:44:10 ASau [~user@ppp91-76-56-169.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #scheme 19:44:52 -!- ASau [~user@ppp91-76-56-169.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:45:18 ASau [~user@ppp91-76-56-169.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #scheme 19:46:23 -!- ASau [~user@ppp91-76-56-169.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:48:20 ASau [~user@ppp91-76-56-169.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #scheme 19:49:25 -!- ASau [~user@ppp91-76-56-169.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:49:49 ASau [~user@ppp91-76-56-169.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #scheme 19:50:35 -!- ASau [~user@ppp91-76-56-169.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:50:58 ASau [~user@ppp91-76-56-169.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #scheme 19:51:44 -!- ASau [~user@ppp91-76-56-169.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:52:05 ASau [~user@ppp91-76-56-169.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #scheme 19:53:18 -!- ASau [~user@ppp91-76-56-169.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:53:48 ASau [~user@ppp91-76-56-169.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #scheme 19:54:34 -!- ASau [~user@ppp91-76-56-169.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:55:15 ASau [~user@ppp91-76-56-169.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #scheme 19:55:56 -!- smtlaissezfaire [~smtlaisse@user-387hbid.cable.mindspring.com] has quit [Quit: smtlaissezfaire] 19:56:05 -!- ASau [~user@ppp91-76-56-169.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:56:08 cky: There's also swindle. 19:56:25 ASau [~user@ppp91-76-56-169.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #scheme 19:57:21 -!- ASau [~user@ppp91-76-56-169.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:57:47 ASau [~user@ppp91-76-56-169.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #scheme 19:57:48 eli: Oh wow. That's awesome. 19:58:18 ASau needs to do something about his/her connection 19:58:31 -!- ASau [~user@ppp91-76-56-169.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:58:36 -!- ChanServ has set mode +o elly 19:58:43 ohai elly 19:58:52 -!- elly has set mode +b *!*@ppp91-76-56-169.pppoe.mtu-net.ru$##fix_your_connection 19:58:54 -!- elly has set mode -o elly 19:58:58 thar 19:59:13 hi all :) 20:06:47 -!- museun [~what@h-66-167-51-163.atlngahp.dynamic.covad.net] has quit [] 20:09:54 Comments on bans? 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