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05:28:43 sorry for this, just getting wet 05:31:44 i dont think theres a need to push a stack frame just for a let 05:31:55 you only get a new stack frame if the expression is not a tail-call 05:32:16 (+ (let ...) 2) -- there the let is not a tail call because it has to be evaluated before the (+ ...) can be evaluated 05:32:45 but (let ([x 2]) (+ x 5)) is a tail call because the let is the only expression that needs to be evaluated (besides its inner bodies) 05:34:01 Kerrick2 [~Kerrick@kerrick.student.iastate.edu] has joined #scheme 05:34:06 -!- Kerrick2 [~Kerrick@kerrick.student.iastate.edu] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:42:28 -!- homie [~user@xdsl-87-79-42-232.netcologne.de] has quit [Quit: ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)] 05:42:32 -!- wbooze [~user@xdsl-87-79-42-232.netcologne.de] has quit [Quit: ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)] 05:42:52 -!- Kerrick [~Kerrick@kerrick.student.iastate.edu] has quit [Quit: Kerrick] 05:45:56 darkmag [~vfalico@ip-94-112-36-51.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #scheme 05:52:25 -!- klovett [~klovett@c-67-180-97-38.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: klovett] 05:56:12 -!- ASau` is now known as ASau 06:03:15 jewel [~jewel@196-210-187-107.dynamic.isadsl.co.za] has joined #scheme 06:12:37 -!- MichaelRaskin [~MichaelRa@pantagruel.mccme.ru] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:16:31 -!- jewel [~jewel@196-210-187-107.dynamic.isadsl.co.za] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 06:17:32 MichaelRaskin [~MichaelRa@pantagruel.mccme.ru] has joined #scheme 06:25:39 hohoho [~hohoho@bm210-148-115-127.bmobile.ne.jp] has joined #scheme 06:27:34 vu3rdd [~vu3rdd@164.164.250.10] has joined #scheme 06:34:01 khisanth_ [~Khisanth@pool-96-246-14-65.nycmny.east.verizon.net] has joined #scheme 06:34:50 -!- Khisanth [~Khisanth@pool-96-250-33-35.nycmny.east.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 06:38:52 -!- khisanth_ [~Khisanth@pool-96-246-14-65.nycmny.east.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 06:47:08 masm [~masm@bl15-65-232.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #scheme 06:54:00 Khisanth [~Khisanth@pool-96-246-9-211.nycmny.east.verizon.net] has joined #scheme 07:03:16 -!- araujo [~araujo@gentoo/developer/araujo] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 07:10:44 -!- jonrafkind [~jon@jonr5.dsl.xmission.com] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 07:23:27 neilv [~user@unaffiliated/neilv] has joined #scheme 07:27:17 gravicappa [~gravicapp@91.78.228.174] has joined #scheme 07:34:16 -!- SirNick [~nick@c-67-160-151-16.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 07:37:18 -!- MichaelRaskin [~MichaelRa@pantagruel.mccme.ru] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:52:36 aidalgol [~user@114-134-7-235.rurallink.co.nz] has joined #scheme 07:53:05 -!- hohoho [~hohoho@bm210-148-115-127.bmobile.ne.jp] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:01:08 lbc_ [~lbc@h195.natout.aau.dk] has joined #scheme 08:06:21 -!- echo-area [~echo-area@114.251.86.0] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 08:19:04 pdelgallego [~pdelgalle@1503031474.dhcp.dbnet.dk] has joined #scheme 08:20:26 -!- neilv [~user@unaffiliated/neilv] has left #scheme 08:54:21 -!- aidalgol [~user@114-134-7-235.rurallink.co.nz] has quit [Quit: ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)] 09:08:53 -!- darkmag [~vfalico@ip-94-112-36-51.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 09:10:08 schmir [~schmir@mail.brainbot.com] has joined #scheme 09:10:18 rdd [~rdd@c83-250-48-164.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #scheme 09:20:33 -!- nataraj [~natarajsn@122.165.223.135] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 09:21:48 MichaelRaskin [~MichaelRa@pantagruel.mccme.ru] has joined #scheme 09:23:12 -!- MichaelRaskin [~MichaelRa@pantagruel.mccme.ru] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:23:20 MichaelRaskin [~MichaelRa@pantagruel.mccme.ru] has joined #scheme 09:24:26 -!- MichaelRaskin [~MichaelRa@pantagruel.mccme.ru] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:24:36 MichaelRaskin [~MichaelRa@pantagruel.mccme.ru] has joined #scheme 09:28:17 -!- schmir [~schmir@mail.brainbot.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:36:49 _dgs_ [~kvirc@ip-118-90-114-102.xdsl.xnet.co.nz] has joined #scheme 09:53:39 npe [~npe@94-227-43-225.access.telenet.be] has joined #scheme 09:53:40 -!- npe [~npe@94-227-43-225.access.telenet.be] has quit [Excess Flood] 09:54:04 -!- emma [~em@unaffiliated/emma] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 09:54:06 npe [~npe@94-227-43-225.access.telenet.be] has joined #scheme 10:01:56 schmir [~schmir@mail.brainbot.com] has joined #scheme 10:02:13 <_dgs_> not really a scheme question, but complete edwin newbie here . . . i'm using edwin, but its not auto-indenting scm files. is there a way to check whether this setting is turned on/off? (or is this something better asked in #emacs?) 10:03:46 Mr-Cat [c31aa706@gateway/web/freenode/ip.195.26.167.6] has joined #scheme 10:04:43 malcolmci [~malcolmci@203.171.96.17.static.rev.aanet.com.au] has joined #scheme 10:04:44 malcolmci_ [~malcolmci@203.171.96.17.static.rev.aanet.com.au] has joined #scheme 10:04:44 malcolmci__ [~malcolmci@203.171.96.17.static.rev.aanet.com.au] has joined #scheme 10:16:49 -!- malcolmci [~malcolmci@203.171.96.17.static.rev.aanet.com.au] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 10:16:50 -!- malcolmci_ [~malcolmci@203.171.96.17.static.rev.aanet.com.au] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 10:16:55 -!- malcolmci__ [~malcolmci@203.171.96.17.static.rev.aanet.com.au] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 10:18:30 githogori [~githogori@adsl-66-123-22-146.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net] has joined #scheme 10:18:31 -!- timj_ is now known as timj 10:29:40 Blkt [~user@net-93-151-225-193.cust.dsl.teletu.it] has joined #scheme 10:38:07 good day everyone 10:40:53 -!- MichaelRaskin [~MichaelRa@pantagruel.mccme.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 10:43:48 -!- rbarraud [~rbarraud@118-92-15-104.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:57:53 mmc [~michal@cs190095.pp.htv.fi] has joined #scheme 11:05:50 -!- aoh [~aki@80.75.102.51] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 11:09:11 emma [~em@user-0ccem2q.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #scheme 11:09:11 -!- emma [~em@user-0ccem2q.cable.mindspring.com] has quit [Changing host] 11:09:11 emma [~em@unaffiliated/emma] has joined #scheme 11:15:26 -!- adadglgmut [~steve@cpe-65-25-14-11.neo.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 11:18:41 aoh [~aki@80.75.102.51] has joined #scheme 11:22:43 echo-area [~echo-area@114.251.86.0] has joined #scheme 11:44:43 janislaw [~janislaw@D8-626-jan.ket.agh.edu.pl] has joined #scheme 11:59:08 -!- janislaw [~janislaw@D8-626-jan.ket.agh.edu.pl] has left #scheme 12:05:01 -!- metasyntax [~taylor@72.86.89.174] has quit [Quit:  In our sky there is no limits, and masters we have none; heavy metal is the only one! ] 12:09:51 hohoho [~hohoho@ntkngw229253.kngw.nt.ftth.ppp.infoweb.ne.jp] has joined #scheme 12:13:28 HG` [~HG@xdslec172.osnanet.de] has joined #scheme 12:46:32 fradgers- [~fradgers-@5e0aadb6.bb.sky.com] has joined #scheme 13:02:00 -!- Adrinael [~adrinael@barrel.rolli.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 13:09:48 femtoo [~femto@95-89-248-241-dynip.superkabel.de] has joined #scheme 13:10:03 -!- jmcphers [~jmcphers@218.185.108.156] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:10:49 jmcphers [~jmcphers@218.185.108.156] has joined #scheme 13:20:28 davazp [~user@184.Red-79-154-140.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #scheme 13:24:42 -!- Adamant [~Adamant@unaffiliated/adamant] has quit [Quit: Adamant] 13:45:53 -!- lbc_ [~lbc@h195.natout.aau.dk] has quit [Quit: lbc_] 13:47:19 -!- davazp [~user@184.Red-79-154-140.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:50:07 Adrinael [~adrinael@barrel.rolli.org] has joined #scheme 13:56:28 -!- mjonsson [~mjonsson@cpe-98-14-173-5.nyc.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 13:58:53 -!- Riastradh [debian-tor@fsf/member/riastradh] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 14:02:09 homie [~user@xdsl-87-79-84-132.netcologne.de] has joined #scheme 14:02:14 wbooze [~user@xdsl-87-79-84-132.netcologne.de] has joined #scheme 14:07:47 -!- HG` [~HG@xdslec172.osnanet.de] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 14:18:14 lbc_ [~lbc@1908ds1-aboes.0.fullrate.dk] has joined #scheme 14:23:38 -!- alaricsp [~alaric@c-98-207-157-66.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 14:29:10 -!- schmir [~schmir@mail.brainbot.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:30:37 Riastradh [debian-tor@fsf/member/riastradh] has joined #scheme 14:34:33 -!- vu3rdd [~vu3rdd@164.164.250.10] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:34:35 minion: memo for Adamant: Scheme's numeric tower is probably not prior art that would invalidate the patent you mentioned. Jim Miller worked on MIT Scheme back in the eighties when the numeric tower was being developed, so he probably knows what makes it different. Example: the patent talks of extensible operations, which Scheme doesn't have. 14:34:35 Remembered. I'll tell Adamant when he/she/it next speaks. 14:39:07 -!- Blkt [~user@net-93-151-225-193.cust.dsl.teletu.it] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 14:40:08 rmathews [~rm@59.92.87.117] has joined #scheme 14:40:28 Riastradh: Good ${tomeoftheday}. A couple of days ago you said that erlang programmers seldom use metalinguistic abstraction. Do you consider erlang behaviors as a kind of metalinguistic abstraction? 14:40:38 s/tome/time 14:41:20 Riastradh: Also what kind of patent are you talking about? 14:42:02 0:11 < Adamant> http://www.faqs.org/patents/app/20080262801 14:42:07 Mr-Cat: ^^--- 14:42:18 Some hours ago Adamant asked whether `should be covered by the development of Scheme's numeric tower'. 14:43:17 *bpalmer`* ponders what the tome of the day should be. 14:44:07 bpalmer`: TAOCP, of course. :-P 14:44:16 Choose something from the Library of Babel. 14:44:52 -!- lisppaste [~lisppaste@common-lisp.net] has quit [Quit: Want lisppaste in your channel? Email lisppaste-requests AT common-lisp.net.] 14:44:57 lisppaste [~lisppaste@common-lisp.net] has joined #scheme 14:46:43 !!!! 14:46:57 *cky* just read Wikipedia's article on the Library of Babel. 14:47:20 adadglgmut [~steve@cpe-65-25-14-11.neo.res.rr.com] has joined #scheme 14:49:05 (The Library of Babel, of course, is essentially the literary term, in Argentinian literary circles at least, for the concept of the one-time pad; or, for the uniform distribution on all possible books.) 14:49:53 cky: oh snap. was going to say the same. 14:49:54 ??? 14:49:59 searious ? 14:50:28 cky: Sorry, what is TAOCP? 14:50:37 the TAO of CP 14:51:47 the art of computer programming 14:51:51 -!- samth_away is now known as samth 14:52:07 Ah, thanks. I should have googled it. 14:54:03 homie: :) 14:54:52 man the indians have some groovy tracks... 14:55:00 := 14:55:31 what is the date of applicability on that patent? not obvious. 14:55:40 the URL suggests it was filed in 2008, though 14:55:53 bweaver [~user@75-148-111-133-Chattanooga.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has joined #scheme 15:04:46 -!- bweaver [~user@75-148-111-133-Chattanooga.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:05:44 MrFahrenheit [~RageOfTho@users-33-181.vinet.ba] has joined #scheme 15:10:08 luz [~David@139.82.89.24] has joined #scheme 15:13:33 bweaver [~user@75-148-111-133-Chattanooga.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has joined #scheme 15:15:26 Bye all, got to leave. Riastradh: Your opinion on erlang behaviors vs. metalinguisting abstractions is greatly appreciated. 15:15:32 -!- Mr-Cat [c31aa706@gateway/web/freenode/ip.195.26.167.6] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 15:15:42 Oh, sorry. I forgot. 15:17:22 minion: memo for Mr-Cat: Sorry, I got distracted by conversations in other channels. My memory of how Erlang behaviours work is fuzzy, but I think they are not so much metalinguistic abstraction as a slightly higher level of parametrization than functions offer. I think you could replace them by just adding an extra argument to each function in the behaviour module that specifies the module supplying parameters. 15:17:22 Remembered. 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