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I think I know what the problem is but Im not sure how to fix it .. my code is at http://pastebin.com/AxtkMx2A 13:21:51 ... you're solving exercises from a common lisp book in scheme? 13:21:54 madmuppet: #lisp would probably be a better place to ask. 13:22:09 Im doing the problems in scheme yeah 13:22:23 Ah. 13:22:28 Scheme and Common Lisp are different languages. 13:22:29 *antoszka* didn't look at the paste. 13:23:10 yeah have done a little lisp but prefer scheme dont know why 13:23:45 Well then, work from a scheme book... although your code seems to be more informed by elisp. 13:24:12 m and n are not bound, so you cannot use them -- which is what the error message says. 13:24:47 madmuppet: by looking at the code 13:24:57 (let ((m throw-die) ... 13:25:08 probably you mean (let ((m (throw-die)) ... ? 13:25:30 Komi: I have tried that 13:25:49 There is no value in trying, only value in succeeding. 13:26:28 well there are folks here who know a whole lot more than I do about scheme ..:p 13:27:06 ^points out the obvious 13:29:14 (let((m (throw-die)) .. results in an unbound variable .. how do I bind m and n to throw-die? 13:31:54 madmuppet: your problem is that "m" and "n" are only available within your definition of "check", but you're using them outside of that definition. 13:32:24 in fact, that definition is bizarre; it immediately "overwrites" its input values. 13:33:24 madmuppet: there's an abstraction error in throw-die-2. It should be: (define (throw-die-2) (list (throw-die) (throw-die))) 13:33:56 oh, true 13:34:10 m and n only exist in the environment of check 13:34:14 pjb: yes I know 13:34:34 madmuppet: (let ((m throw-die)) -- you defined throw-die as a function, therefore m get bound to a function. Is that what you want? 13:35:36 pjb:I want m bound to the result of the function yes 13:36:08 madmuppet: http://gist.github.com/479507 13:36:10 seems to work for me 13:36:58 ugh, PDF 13:37:01 madmuppet: the first requirement of this exercise is to write documentation strings inside the functions! 13:37:34 madmuppet: The requirements asked for a function named throw-dice, not throw-die-2 13:38:22 -!- asarch [~asarch@189.188.146.114] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:38:55 madmuppet: the only rule of lisp (and scheme), is that to call a function you have to put an open parenthesis, the name of the function, followed by the arguments if any, and finishing with a right parenthesis. 13:39:14 madmuppet: why do you write just throw-die if what you want is to call a function? 13:39:24 ofby1:ok I see what you are doing .. gonna try that thanks 13:39:44 the first rule of Scheme is ... you don't talk about Scheme 13:40:51 I think what is confusing me is inside outside thing .. I thought using (let (m (throw-die)) was inside 13:41:26 Again, there's very little syntax in lisp, but you must cater to the little there is. 13:42:30 (let (m (throw-die)) ...) is invalid in scheme, where all the bindings must be of the form (var expression). 13:42:59 The bindings in a let form must be a LIST of bindings, each one being a LIST of a variable and an expression. 13:43:09 Therefore after let, you must write a list of list. 13:43:34 offby1:ok changed my code it works fine .. thanks for the help 13:43:55 offby1:little lightbulb moment 13:44:08 I hate those little lightbulbs 13:44:13 they're expensive, and hard to replace 13:44:17 *offby1* grumbles incoherently 13:44:27 That's because you turn them on all the time. 13:44:38 offby1: actually, there's only one, and it's reused every time. 13:44:40 well, 13:44:47 Woe to the person whose lightbulb stays off. 13:45:51 -!- snarkyboojum [~snarkyboo@110-174-43-105.static.tpgi.com.au] has left #scheme 13:52:40 -!- meder 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22:37:47 -!- mmc [~michal@109.112.41.86] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 22:38:05 -!- Toekutr [~toekutr@adsl-69-107-120-72.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net] has quit [Quit: REALITY IS TEARING ITSELF ASUNDER, BUT I MUST RACE] 22:40:16 mister_m [~matthew@c-71-201-6-9.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 22:40:27 mmc [~michal@109.112.41.86] has joined #scheme 22:40:32 is there anything like lispbox for scheme? 22:44:59 maybe the most similar thing would be Slime48 22:45:25 but it isn't maintained for current versions of Scheme48 22:46:49 I think mit-scheme has an emacs library to run scheme in emacs 22:46:58 but I don't know how to load the library 22:47:24 jonrafkind [~jon@c-67-172-254-235.hsd1.ut.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 22:47:42 well, for what it's worth mit-scheme has edwin 22:47:53 i never used it, but people says it's similar to emacs 22:48:39 Can't you just run any Scheme in Emacs with M-x run-scheme anyway? :s 22:49:00 i can't tell much about emacs really (i use vim mostly) 22:49:43 franki, I was just going to ask how to run it as an 'inferior process' 22:49:49 I'm new to emacs 22:50:03 franki-, and that works fine 22:50:09 I'm fairly new too, but that's what I do 22:53:45 mister_m: M-x run-scheme, like the fella says. 22:54:07 Once you do that, you get a few fairly crude commands in scheme-mode buffers, like "scheme-send-defun". 22:54:12 I don't generally use those, at least, not much. 22:54:32 I hear there are more-sophisticated systems out there, like "quack" and "slime48", but I don't use them. 22:58:40 xissburg [~chatzilla@187.3.132.80] has joined #scheme 23:06:13 I think run-scheme will probably do just fine 23:06:19 thanks everyone 23:21:28 -!- pdelgallego [~pdelgalle@1503031474.dhcp.dbnet.dk] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 23:22:24 -!- mmc [~michal@109.112.41.86] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 23:24:27 foof [~user@lain.inunome.com] has joined #scheme 23:28:17 -!- e-future [~e-future@unaffiliated/sergio/x-8197433] has quit [Remote host 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