00:01:36 antoszka [~antoszka@unaffiliated/antoszka] has joined #scheme 00:04:43 toast` [~toast`@c-71-227-233-160.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 00:09:20 -!- antoszka [~antoszka@unaffiliated/antoszka] has quit [Quit: +++ killed by SIGSEGV +++] 00:15:34 -!- hohoho [~hohoho@ntkngw227224.kngw.nt.ftth.ppp.infoweb.ne.jp] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:29:15 Riastradh [~riastradh@fsf/member/riastradh] has joined #scheme 00:34:27 -!- toast` [~toast`@c-71-227-233-160.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: toast`] 00:35:17 foof, here are some criticisms of SRFI 18: No reader/writer locks. MUTEX-UNLOCK! is too complex -- it should be two procedures. The names MUTEX-SPECIFIC-SET! &c. don't read like any sensible English; either SET-MUTEX-SPECIFIC! or MUTEX-SET-SPECIFIC! would be tremendously better. Its ad-hoc representation of time is too coarse in resolution. Its exception semantics is not very good. THREAD-TERMINATE! doesn't unwind, and there's nothing that 00:37:02 I don't think mutex operations are required to imply memory barriers. 00:37:50 There are too many exclamation marks. 00:40:01 toast` [~toast`@c-71-227-233-160.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 00:43:13 Sorry, I was wrong: the resolution of time is not too coarse, because it uses real numbers rather than just integral numbers of seconds. 00:46:06 -!- toast` [~toast`@c-71-227-233-160.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: toast`] 00:47:35 Hello, Riastradh. 00:47:37 Hi. 00:52:04 What's new in the #scheme world? Any anarchistic revolutionary outrage seizing control of the place? 00:53:05 Not as far as I'm aware, but then I've been spending more of my time racketeering and leaving the scheming to others. 00:57:59 Well, what's new and exciting in the racketeering world? 01:01:16 hohoho [~hohoho@ntkngw227224.kngw.nt.ftth.ppp.infoweb.ne.jp] has joined #scheme 01:03:25 foof, another criticism: there is no composable mechanism provided for thread-local storage. It can be kludged up with a mutex-locked alist (or hash table if you have identity-keyed hash tables), but that's silly. 01:08:33 There is also no mechanism for deferring termination until an appropriate time. 01:10:14 -!- imran_sr [~Imran@71-6-87-18.static-ip.telepacific.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:11:09 Isn't anyone interested in contesting these criticisms? Perhaps I ought to try asserting something bolder about SRFI 18. 01:12:15 haesbaert [~haesbaert@c915453b.virtua.com.br] has joined #scheme 01:14:17 JoelMcCracken [~joelmccra@pool-71-182-166-121.pitbpa.east.verizon.net] has joined #scheme 01:16:56 *prod* 01:18:08 he is dead, jim. 01:25:29 -!- seoushi [~Sean@cpe-76-169-113-193.socal.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 01:26:37 seoushi [~Sean@cpe-76-169-113-193.socal.res.rr.com] has joined #scheme 01:35:25 mbohun [~mbohun@ppp115-156.static.internode.on.net] has joined #scheme 01:35:52 ysph [~user@adsl-221-198-35.mgm.bellsouth.net] has joined #scheme 01:36:56 -!- luz [~davids@189.60.69.82] has quit [Quit: Client exiting] 01:41:35 -!- JoelMcCracken [~joelmccra@pool-71-182-166-121.pitbpa.east.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 01:45:58 JoelMcCracken [~joelmccra@pool-71-182-169-223.pitbpa.east.verizon.net] has joined #scheme 01:46:38 nicktick [~na@unaffiliated/nicktick] has joined #scheme 01:56:14 boysetsfrog [~nathan@123-243-214-176.static.tpgi.com.au] has joined #scheme 01:56:47 -!- curi [~curi@adsl-99-114-139-86.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 02:01:27 chupish [182ed347@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.46.211.71] has joined #scheme 02:13:15 -!- hohoho [~hohoho@ntkngw227224.kngw.nt.ftth.ppp.infoweb.ne.jp] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:21:57 Checkie [17237@unaffiliated/checkie] has joined #scheme 02:23:59 -!- sepult [~levgue@xdsl-78-34-232-77.netcologne.de] has quit [Quit: ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)] 02:27:05 sepult [~levgue@xdsl-78-34-232-77.netcologne.de] has joined #scheme 02:35:36 -!- JoelMcCracken [~joelmccra@pool-71-182-169-223.pitbpa.east.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 02:36:33 -!- chupish [182ed347@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.46.211.71] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 02:40:51 -!- sepult [~levgue@xdsl-78-34-232-77.netcologne.de] has quit [Quit: ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)] 02:42:40 sepult [~levgue@xdsl-78-34-232-77.netcologne.de] has joined #scheme 02:44:05 JoelMcCracken [~joelmccra@pool-71-182-166-65.pitbpa.east.verizon.net] has joined #scheme 02:44:15 Riastradh: thanks 02:44:40 MUTEX-UNLOCK! is indeed bizarre 02:45:02 -!- MrFahrenheit [~RageOfTho@users-33-180.vinet.ba] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 02:45:03 for thread-local storage you can use parameters 02:46:01 It's not bizarre; it just has the functionality of two operations (unlocking a mutex, and atomically unlocking a mutex and waiting on a condition variable) crammed into one. 02:47:07 Can parameters be used reliably for thread-local storage? In Alaric Snell-Pym's proposal to the working group, I believe they cannot be. 02:49:12 SRFI 39 answers this for me: in Gambit, parameters are not thread-local. The dynamic environment of each thread maps parameters to cells, and some sets of threads may share common cells. 02:52:00 In Alaric's proposal, parameterize can be used to make the parameter local to the given thread (and any other threads subsequently started within the dynamic context of the parameterize). 02:52:15 -!- jonrafkind [~jon@crystalis.cs.utah.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:52:33 timj__ [~timj@e176193059.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #scheme 02:52:38 So it's different from pure thread-local storage, but you can achieve similar effects. 02:52:40 Yes, but that is not the same as the proposition that parameter assignment is reliably thread-local. 02:53:01 Right. 02:53:06 With a global transformation of the program, perhaps. 02:53:48 That is: with a global transformation of the program, parameters can be used to implement thread-local storage. 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joined #scheme 05:33:43 toast` [~toast`@c-71-227-233-160.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 05:38:24 -!- Mohamdu [~Mohamdu@CPE00222d53fe20-CM00222d53fe1d.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 05:44:08 -!- asarch [~asarch@187.132.140.233] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 05:44:34 Mohamdu [~Mohamdu@CPE00222d53fe20-CM00222d53fe1d.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #scheme 05:46:05 Jafet [~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet] has joined #scheme 05:46:05 -!- Mohamdu [~Mohamdu@CPE00222d53fe20-CM00222d53fe1d.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Client Quit] 06:08:35 aaagh, no named let in church 06:09:11 what's the primitive syntax for that? it involves defining Y, right? 06:11:27 hadronzoo [~hadronzoo@ppp-70-251-66-95.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has joined #scheme 06:14:58 jewel [~jewel@196-210-134-12.dynamic.isadsl.co.za] has joined #scheme 06:19:47 ? 06:19:50 let is just lambda + apply 06:24:26 named let 06:24:48 oh 06:24:53 hm, I do not know 06:25:24 then it's just lambda lambda + apply... 06:26:33 -!- R3cur51v3 [~Recursive@173-29-151-107.client.mchsi.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 06:29:37 sladegen: could you expand on that? 06:30:12 -!- bgs100 [~ian@unaffiliated/bgs100] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 06:31:04 saccade: oh, not really... just sarcastically stating your suspicion with elly's language. 06:31:36 named let gives you a recursive procedure. if church doesn't have the equivalent of letrec you need the Y combinator. 06:31:50 foof: ah, I hoped you might be around 06:32:17 you're in like australia or something, right? 06:32:33 japan 06:32:55 whoops 06:33:46 foof: do you know how to test for proper tail recursion? 06:34:01 I suspect church might not have it, but I don't know how to tell 06:34:41 the main reason I think so is that built-in procedures that seem like they ought to run in linear time, don't 06:35:09 tail-call optimization is a separate matter 06:35:12 and the main technique I use for tail recursion is named let, but it's not available 06:35:21 R3cur51v3 [~Recursive@173-29-151-107.client.mchsi.com] has joined #scheme 06:38:32 foof: you interested in installing church? 06:38:57 tail-call optimization is also unrelated to time efficiency - it just guarantees you won't blow the stack on iterative loops 06:39:20 mmm... 06:39:57 *saccade* pastes 06:40:40 church is some toy language, isn't it? if it uses church numerals things like basic addition will be linear in the size of the integer. 06:40:55 foof: http://codepad.org/piAMeuM2 06:41:02 yeah, it's a toy language 06:41:15 but very useful for probabilistic models 06:42:56 also, I know the implementors, and can ask them for small favors 06:43:30 but certainly not anything about the semantics of applicative order 06:44:15 HG` [~HG@xdsl-92-252-112-57.dip.osnanet.de] has joined #scheme 06:44:16 that output looks like repeat doesn't do proper TCO, so it's hitting the stack limit and then expanding the stack 06:44:27 yes 06:44:38 bombshelter13b [~bombshelt@76-10-149-209.dsl.teksavvy.com] has joined #scheme 06:44:43 so I decided to fix it 06:44:52 tried to use named let 06:44:57 then crashed and burned 06:45:43 this might be because the implementors don't have friends who use letrec / named let, and haven't bothered to set it up 06:46:17 or it might be that even if I write it using Y, it just doesn't do TCO 06:46:28 in which case I'm out of luck 06:46:39 but I forget how to do the latter 06:47:14 (I haven't done much scheming in the last couple of years) 06:47:21 -!- kniu [~kniu@pool-71-106-7-247.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 06:47:56 is it implemented in racket? 06:48:55 kniu [~kniu@pool-71-106-7-247.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #scheme 06:49:15 their repeat is: http://codepad.org/o6L3Pa2K 06:49:27 which looks obviously wrong to me 06:49:29 -!- toast` [~toast`@c-71-227-233-160.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: toast`] 06:50:05 but might be necessary because of the way it's used in the markov chain monte carlo models 06:50:21 Wrong in what way? 06:50:36 that's basically a reverse map 06:51:04 well, not really, but it's accumulating a list 06:51:16 mmmm 06:51:26 Oh, that would depend on the evaluation order 06:51:29 -!- nicktick [~na@unaffiliated/nicktick] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 06:51:30 so, they can't use a normal optimizing compiler 06:51:47 the semantics of church are way bizzare 06:52:37 but I think that mostly only matters in the MCMC models 06:53:37 http://projects.csail.mit.edu/church/wiki/Language_Models_Tutorial 06:53:48 http://projects.csail.mit.edu/church/wiki/Church 06:54:33 (define (repeat n thunk) (repeat/aux n thunk '())) 06:54:38 (define (repeat/aux n thunk ls) (if (zero? n) (reverse ls) (repeat/aux (- n 1) thunk (cons (thunk) ls)))) 06:54:45 that's tail recursive 06:54:47 foof: church can run on racket or ikarus 06:54:59 but it's often much, much faster on ikarus 06:55:11 that's because ikarus is much, much faster than racket 06:55:19 so I hear 06:55:21 Anyway, I would've pasted but that stupid site requires a login 06:55:29 *saccade* reads foof's code 06:55:29 you should use lisppaste 06:55:32 which site? 06:55:40 codepad.org 06:55:46 wouldn't let me comment 06:55:51 really? 06:56:44 "The iPhone 4 has been the most successful product launch in Apple's history. It has been judged by reviewers around the world to be the best smartphone ever, and users have told us that they love it." 06:57:00 kar8nga [~kar8nga@j-75.vc-graz.ac.at] has joined #scheme 06:57:19 - says apple 07:01:51 -!- kar8nga [~kar8nga@j-75.vc-graz.ac.at] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:04:16 -!- hadronzoo [~hadronzoo@ppp-70-251-66-95.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has quit [Quit: hadronzoo] 07:07:39 jwein [~jwein@host6-75-dynamic.22-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #scheme 07:10:36 -!- m`` [~m@usealice.org] has quit [Quit: alice.] 07:10:51 m`` [~m@usealice.org] has joined #scheme 07:11:38 ugh 07:11:42 what a mess 07:18:21 nicktick [~na@unaffiliated/nicktick] has joined #scheme 07:21:15 -!- JoelMcCracken [~joelmccra@pool-72-95-251-140.pitbpa.east.verizon.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 07:22:45 -!- nicktick [~na@unaffiliated/nicktick] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 07:29:28 -!- R3cur51v3 [~Recursive@173-29-151-107.client.mchsi.com] has quit [Quit: night] 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had a baby and they named it rock-and-roll 16:16:01 *gasp* 16:16:27 What? What is it!? 16:16:59 -!- kar8nga [~kar8nga@78.104.81.119] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:17:33 aintme [~user@80.36.221.87.dynamic.jazztel.es] has joined #scheme 16:17:57 my IRC client is confused about the bot's name. 16:18:00 rudybot: the blues had a baby and they named it rock-and-roll 16:18:01 *offby1: the blues had a baby and they named it rock-and-roll 16:18:08 *offby1* rubs chin thoughtfully 16:25:00 metasyntax [~taylor@72.86.89.174] has joined #scheme 16:37:14 -!- MononcQc [~Ferd@modemcable062.225-20-96.mc.videotron.ca] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:42:06 rudybot: (+ (values 2 3)) 16:42:07 xissburg: This is a style variable. Apart from the valid values described 16:50:43 -!- aintme [~user@80.36.221.87.dynamic.jazztel.es] has left #scheme 16:51:00 saccade [~saccade@209-6-54-113.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com] has joined #scheme 16:55:25 rudybot: eval (+ (values 2 3)) 16:55:26 *offby1: your scheme sandbox is ready 16:55:27 *offby1: error: context expected 1 value, received 2 values: 2 3 16:55:31 -!- sunnyps [~sunny@120-88-37-50.thane.hns.net.in] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 16:55:34 rudybot: eval (call-with-values + (values 2 3)) 16:55:34 *offby1: error: context expected 1 value, received 2 values: 2 3 16:55:37 hmph 16:55:41 rudybot: eval (call-with-values + (lambda () (values 2 3))) 16:55:41 *offby1: error: #: expects no arguments, given 1: 0 16:55:46 gaah 16:55:55 rudybot: eval (call-with-values (lambda () (values 2 3)) +) 16:55:56 *offby1: ; Value: 5 16:55:57 yay 17:03:45 -!- nicktick [~na@unaffiliated/nicktick] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:09:13 -!- hadronzoo 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Good morning! 21:31:03 anyone for a lightning talk at Boston Lisp Meeting in July? 21:32:48 mejja [~user@c-14bee555.023-82-73746f38.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #scheme 21:37:54 choas [~lars@p5B0DB456.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #scheme 21:39:11 IJP [~Ian@host86-135-220-76.range86-135.btcentralplus.com] has joined #scheme 21:39:23 *ski* has known for years 21:39:49 the last i remember, duncanm was trying to port Edwin 21:42:00 toast` [~toast`@c-71-227-233-160.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 21:46:45 -!- R3cur51v3 [~Recursive@173-29-151-107.client.mchsi.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:12:57 -!- duncanm [~duncan@a-chinaman.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:16:43 neilv [~user@dsl092-071-029.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net] has joined #scheme 22:20:06 duncanm [~duncan@a-chinaman.com] has joined #scheme 22:20:06 la la la 22:30:47 -!- toast` [~toast`@c-71-227-233-160.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: toast`] 22:37:19 -!- duncanm [~duncan@a-chinaman.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 22:37:50 duncanm [~duncan@a-chinaman.com] has joined #scheme 22:37:50 la la la 22:38:48 toast` [~toast`@c-71-227-233-160.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 22:56:38 -!- toast` [~toast`@c-71-227-233-160.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: toast`] 22:59:01 toast` [~toast`@c-71-227-233-160.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 23:09:50 Blkt [~user@93-33-131-75.ip44.fastwebnet.it] has joined #scheme 23:16:42 saint_cypher_ [~saint_cyp@c-76-126-70-224.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 23:17:35 -!- saint_cypher [~saint_cyp@c-76-126-70-224.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:18:17 kashi-grape-nuts [~kashi-gra@c-69-242-29-112.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 23:18:50 harro 23:19:14 want to wright scheme2lolcats compilation 23:20:31 -!- davazp [~user@83.55.180.105] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:20:42 to lolcode? 23:20:43 neilv, memo from samth: if you just want to detect the gui, look for `gui-available?' 23:22:17 memo for samth: thanks. (dictated but not read) 23:22:25 minion: memo for samth: thanks. (dictated but not read) 23:22:26 Remembered. I'll tell samth when he/she/it next speaks. 23:23:09 -!- dzhus [~sphinx@89-178-193-148.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 23:24:03 sepult [~levgue@xdsl-87-79-177-233.netcologne.de] has joined #scheme 23:24:09 what's more disturbing is that wikipedia has syntax coloring support for lolcode 23:25:16 CAN HAS STDIO? -> (import stdio) in syntax-case system 23:25:33 alsa taylor-campbell-san's foofloop in IM IN YR LOOP compilation 23:25:46 kashi-grape-nuts: writing a lolcode language for drracket would not be very difficult. then you could intermix modules written in racket and lolcode 23:26:21 neilv: what's the difference? 23:26:30 neilv-san: thank you 23:26:33 -!- kashi-grape-nuts [~kashi-gra@c-69-242-29-112.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: leaving] 23:26:49 racket has more parentheses than lolcode 23:28:02 -!- toast` [~toast`@c-71-227-233-160.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:28:06 ;-) 23:28:34 toast` [~toast`@c-71-227-233-160.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 23:38:08 moell [~user@150.181.35.213.dyn.estpak.ee] has joined #scheme 23:39:25 incubot: i love kashi grape nuts 23:39:29 I've been to Ancient Greece! Look at this grape! 23:42:58 -!- Blkt [~user@93-33-131-75.ip44.fastwebnet.it] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 23:46:44 -!- sepult [~levgue@xdsl-87-79-177-233.netcologne.de] has quit [Quit: ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)] 23:48:01 hohoho [~hohoho@ntkngw227224.kngw.nt.ftth.ppp.infoweb.ne.jp] has joined #scheme 23:50:23 acarrico1 [~acarrico@pppoe-68-142-61-242.gmavt.net] has joined #scheme 23:51:23 sepult [~levgue@xdsl-87-79-177-233.netcologne.de] has joined #scheme 23:52:15 -!- hohoho [~hohoho@ntkngw227224.kngw.nt.ftth.ppp.infoweb.ne.jp] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:55:25 -!- toast` [~toast`@c-71-227-233-160.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: toast`] 23:55:33 incubot: What is your mission? 23:55:36 I have the greatest enthusiasm for this mission