00:01:02 nvm, (_ptr io (_list io _string ... 00:01:38 -!- Paraselene_ [~Not@79-67-148-135.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has quit [Disconnected by services] 00:01:40 Paraselene [~Not@79-67-148-135.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #scheme 00:03:33 ktzqbp [~ktzqbp@unaffiliated/ktzqbp] has joined #scheme 00:10:00 hohoho [~hohoho@ntkngw227224.kngw.nt.ftth.ppp.infoweb.ne.jp] has joined #scheme 00:14:59 Adamant [~Adamant@unaffiliated/adamant] has joined #scheme 00:15:41 -!- mbohun [~mbohun@ppp115-156.static.internode.on.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:17:03 mbohun [~mbohun@202.124.75.164] has joined #scheme 00:20:38 zbrown [~suifur@unaffiliated/zbrown] has joined #scheme 00:21:46 -!- ski [~slj@c-0712e055.1149-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 00:21:51 ski [~slj@c-0712e055.1149-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #scheme 00:34:08 Hi, how would I tell mzscheme to use r6rs when running it from inside emacs? 00:36:52 zbrown: Just make the file start with `#!r6rs' 00:37:13 ah ok 00:37:15 cool, thank you 00:39:23 Anyone have a max-list-depth procedure lying around? (max-list-depth '(1 2 3 4 (4 5 6 7 (8 9) (10 (11))) (12 13 (14))) would return 5 if I parenthesized correctly 00:39:47 4, not 5 00:40:23 -!- RageOfThou [~RageOfTho@users-55-188.vinet.ba] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 00:43:23 MrFahrenheit [~RageOfTho@users-55-188.vinet.ba] has joined #scheme 00:45:29 ooh, emacs buffers can now be up to 512MB 00:46:15 that enters the realm of inconvenient, instead of totally pathetic 00:47:07 you know your programs are a little too long when you use up the alloted 512mb for a single buffer 00:48:20 joking? :) most people use emacs for more than source code. 00:49:27 -!- Blkt` [~user@dynamic-adsl-94-34-40-173.clienti.tiscali.it] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:49:45 image editing? 00:49:51 foof: He's not joking, he's just a vi-user. 00:50:47 foof: And BTW, I don't know how you get a 512MB limit -- I definitely edited larger files in the past, and I just opened up a 900mb file just to be sure that it still works. 00:51:19 jonrafkind: When you have a large text file -- like a huge log file or something like that, Emacs is really far better than anything else. 00:51:36 I used to pre-process GBs of text corpus files for my wife. 00:51:45 yea sometimes vi throws a fit when I load a 100mb log file 00:52:00 eli: 64-bit machine? the 512MB limit is for 32-bit machines. 00:52:31 foof: Yes, it's a 64bit machine, but when I did the above edit jobs, I don't remember running into a limit. 00:52:59 But maybe I split the files to chunks. (In any case it was mostly dealing with a baziilion files). 00:53:09 for 64-bits the limit is essentially infinite 00:53:53 i remember hitting the limit on many occasions 00:54:22 *eli* is trying it now 00:54:25 and for any file larger than i think 10MB Emacs warns you and asks for confirmation... such files are really slow to work with 00:54:47 Oh that's easy. 00:55:01 Also, does anyone have a general sexp hash function? input: any sexp or atom, output: a number 00:55:07 because gap-buffer, while a simple representation, is very inefficient 00:55:11 foof: I have (setq large-file-warning-threshold 50000000) 00:55:34 Quadrescence: for which equality predicate? 00:56:22 foof: `equal?` 00:56:51 No, not equal?. 00:56:59 (define (hash-object x bound) 0) 00:57:06 that one will work for any predicate ;) 00:57:18 ;) 00:57:42 i'm pretty sure SRFI-69 has a reference implementation 01:00:28 -!- snarkyboojum [~snarkyboo@110-174-43-105.static.tpgi.com.au] has quit [Quit: snarkyboojum] 01:00:31 -!- MrFahrenheit [~RageOfTho@users-55-188.vinet.ba] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 01:00:32 Maxels [~Maxel@97-90-238-123.dhcp.eucl.wi.charter.com] has joined #scheme 01:00:40 Looks like you're right. I thought the hash table reference imp. used trees or something weird 01:02:18 From Emacs NEWS.23.2: "The internal encoding used for buffers and strings is now Unicode-based and called `utf-8-emacs' (`emacs-internal' is an alias for this)." 01:03:00 hadronzoo [~hadronzoo@adsl-76-195-126-249.dsl.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net] has joined #scheme 01:03:04 Yet another victory for UTF-8 and non-constant string access :) 01:03:55 -!- hadronzoo [~hadronzoo@adsl-76-195-126-249.dsl.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Client Quit] 01:04:17 mmm, UTF-8 01:04:44 Oh you people and your caring about bounds 01:05:26 fschwidom [~fschwidom@p5B26C070.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #scheme 01:11:06 hadronzoo [~hadronzoo@adsl-76-195-126-249.dsl.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net] has joined #scheme 01:13:40 -!- hadronzoo [~hadronzoo@adsl-76-195-126-249.dsl.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Client Quit] 01:15:01 Thomas_H [~Thomas_H@d207-6-77-199.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #scheme 01:16:22 -!- Thomas_H 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13:17:59 -!- foof [~user@lain.inunome.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 13:19:39 how do I do arbitrary precision decimals in scheme? 13:21:25 Maxel [~Maxel@97-90-238-123.dhcp.eucl.wi.charter.com] has joined #scheme 13:21:50 1/3 13:22:16 no, those are rational numbers, but you cannot do irrational numbers like pi in those 13:23:20 how would you it with decimals? 13:24:16 -!- Maxels [~Maxel@97-90-238-123.dhcp.eucl.wi.charter.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 13:24:59 oh, I think you misunderstood, I mean arbitrary precision real numbers 13:25:41 -!- joast [~rick@76.178.178.72] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 13:26:17 floats can only go so far 13:26:22 and are not accurate 13:26:31 rudybot: eval (real? 1/3) 13:26:31 leppie: ; Value: #t 13:27:15 _KY_ [YKY@unaffiliated/-ky-/x-0649748] has joined #scheme 13:27:22 that's not helping 13:27:42 phao [~phao@189.107.212.178] has joined #scheme 13:27:52 <_KY_> Can anyone recommand a good Scheme impl on .NET? 13:28:06 yes, real numbers include rational numbers, too, but there's also irrational numbers which you cannot do with ratios 13:28:55 that's why they are called irrational 13:29:02 -!- dfkjjkfd [~paulh@185-13-ftth.onsnetstudenten.nl] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 13:29:15 Aperculum: don't know if I understand what you really mean, but you can use rational numbers to represent arbitrary precision decimals. you would have to write your own functions calculating irrationals with arbitrary precision 13:29:52 Aperculum: I don't know abotu for scheme, but Chee Yap at NYU has worked on a library for algebraic numbers (something CORE?) 13:30:14 s/abotu/about/ 13:31:56 davazp [~user@64.Red-79-157-94.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #scheme 13:32:20 Aperculum: interval arithmetic is another phrase to search for. 13:38:15 -!- leppie [~lolcow@196-210-254-202.dynamic.isadsl.co.za] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:38:24 oh, but r6rs seems to require all exact integers and exact rationals be of arbitrary precision 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has joined #scheme 15:02:34 -!- schmir [~schmir@mail.brainbot.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:03:12 schmir [~schmir@mail.brainbot.com] has joined #scheme 15:03:16 joast [~rick@76.178.178.72] has joined #scheme 15:05:38 grettke [~rettke@mawdryn.mscs.mu.edu] has joined #scheme 15:06:01 -!- Maxels [~Maxel@97-90-238-123.dhcp.eucl.wi.charter.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 15:06:24 -!- schmir [~schmir@mail.brainbot.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:12:37 jewel [~jewel@196-210-187-11-tbnb-esr-2.dynamic.isadsl.co.za] has joined #scheme 15:13:57 -!- jewel [~jewel@196-210-187-11-tbnb-esr-2.dynamic.isadsl.co.za] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:19:17 schmir [~schmir@mail.brainbot.com] has joined #scheme 15:24:21 Blkt [~user@dynamic-adsl-94-34-40-173.clienti.tiscali.it] has joined #scheme 15:37:51 Quadrescence: http://gist.github.com/396188 <-- worked the first time. Scary. 15:38:51 _KY_: leppie (who often shows here) has written Iron Scheme. 15:38:57 as far as I know, it's the _only_ Scheme for .NET 15:39:39 http://www.dotnetpowered.com/languages.aspx 15:39:40 <_KY_> I found Common Larceny 15:39:49 lists 7 schemes 15:39:58 bpalmer: smarty-pants 15:46:08 Sergio` [~positron@unaffiliated/sergio/x-8197433] has joined #scheme 15:47:39 -!- k0rn [~k0rn@38-247.200-68.tampabay.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 15:48:30 jonrafkind [~jon@crystalis.cs.utah.edu] has joined #scheme 15:57:02 most of those are dead, deader, deadest 15:58:06 k0rn [~k0rn@38-247.200-68.tampabay.res.rr.com] has joined #scheme 16:00:29 <_KY_> Which one is still alive? 16:01:06 Mohamdu [~Mohamdu@CPE0013f7bc6820-CM0013f7bc681c.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #scheme 16:01:52 fabe [~fabe@p54A7DD71.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #scheme 16:01:53 -!- saint_cypher [~saint_cyp@c-76-126-70-224.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 16:02:03 -!- Michael_Mohamed [~Mohamdu@CPE0013f7bc6820-CM0013f7bc681c.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:02:07 _KY_: IronScheme is alive, and lively. 16:06:24 -!- Blkt [~user@dynamic-adsl-94-34-40-173.clienti.tiscali.it] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:09:39 -!- jonrafkind [~jon@crystalis.cs.utah.edu] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 16:10:10 jonrafkind [~jon@crystalis.cs.utah.edu] has joined #scheme 16:10:41 -!- k0rn [~k0rn@38-247.200-68.tampabay.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 16:13:15 Blkt [~user@dynamic-adsl-94-34-40-173.clienti.tiscali.it] has joined #scheme 16:14:04 curi_ [~curi@adsl-99-114-139-86.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net] has joined #scheme 16:17:42 -!- HG` [~HG@xdsl-92-252-36-15.dip.osnanet.de] has quit [Quit: HG`] 16:18:19 -!- kniu [~kniu@HOHOHO.RES.CMU.EDU] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:23:19 fooki [fooki@h-73-135.A165.priv.bahnhof.se] has joined #scheme 16:28:35 -!- CaptainMorgan [~CaptainMo@c-24-62-183-102.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:34:01 k0rn [~k0rn@38-247.200-68.tampabay.res.rr.com] has joined #scheme 16:36:30 djjack_ [~djjack@cpe-098-026-029-215.nc.res.rr.com] has joined #scheme 16:38:42 virl [~virl__@chello062178085149.1.12.vie.surfer.at] has joined #scheme 16:40:22 -!- eli [~eli@winooski.ccs.neu.edu] has quit [*.net *.split] 16:40:22 -!- ski [~slj@c-0712e055.1149-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [*.net *.split] 16:40:22 -!- djjack [~djjack@cpe-098-026-029-215.nc.res.rr.com] has quit [*.net *.split] 16:43:34 ski__ [~md9slj@remote3.student.chalmers.se] has joined #scheme 16:43:46 ski [~slj@c-0712e055.1149-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #scheme 16:46:33 -!- phao [~phao@189.107.212.178] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 16:48:54 eli [~eli@winooski.ccs.neu.edu] has joined #scheme 16:52:24 gravicappa [~gravicapp@ppp85-140-64-129.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #scheme 16:53:07 -!- schmir [~schmir@mail.brainbot.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:54:27 -!- gravicappa [~gravicapp@ppp85-140-64-129.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:55:29 -!- Adamant [~Adamant@unaffiliated/adamant] has quit [Quit: Adamant] 17:00:59 -!- alvatar [~alvatar@33.232.218.87.dynamic.jazztel.es] has quit [Quit: leaving] 17:03:41 gravicappa [~gravicapp@ppp85-141-166-161.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #scheme 17:04:56 leppie [~lolcow@196-210-254-202.dynamic.isadsl.co.za] has joined #scheme 17:05:52 how does the #<< string-literal work exactly? my drScheme hilights it strangly 17:10:06 maw: I think (if that's a here string?), the characters after those symbols, but before the newline are the delimiter, and when it gets to a line with them again, it'll terminate the string. the other lines it'll contain verbatim 17:10:41 useless 17:11:35 I want to write mulitline strings without escaping everything :-( 17:11:50 well just write them... 17:11:58 saint_cypher [~saint_cyp@adsl-99-2-72-93.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net] has joined #scheme 17:16:49 Michael_Mohamed [~Mohamdu@CPE0013f7bc6820-CM0013f7bc681c.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #scheme 17:19:39 -!- cpr420 [~cpr@unaffiliated/cpr420] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:19:59 -!- Mohamdu [~Mohamdu@CPE0013f7bc6820-CM0013f7bc681c.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 17:28:12 alvatar [~alvatar@146.119.20.95.dynamic.jazztel.es] has joined #scheme 17:29:28 incubot: shouldn't you be dead if you are still? 17:29:32 I used it for lisp interaction because it was superior to the alternatives, but I still secretly hated emacs 17:31:32 M-x doc-plz-help-i-m-being-haunted-by-very-long-names-of-abstractions-still 17:32:16 jewel [~jewel@196-210-187-11-tbnb-esr-2.dynamic.isadsl.co.za] has joined #scheme 17:36:40 sladegen: you for urgent! 17:36:45 forgot 17:39:55 rudybot: t8 en pl you for urgent! 17:39:56 sladegen: za pilne! 17:40:40 -!- jewel [~jewel@196-210-187-11-tbnb-esr-2.dynamic.isadsl.co.za] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 17:41:01 rudybot: tr8 pl en za pilne, na zdrowie! 17:41:01 sladegen: (w x y z)(a x y z)# 17:41:21 ow, your dead boy, still! 17:42:46 incubot: know any cures for leaking abstractions? 17:42:49 anyways, the matter remains that I still COULD evaluate inner redexes past abstractions 17:44:44 rudybot: t8 en pl innter redexes, you stupid, stupid, boy. 17:44:44 sladegen: redexes innter, ty gupi, gupi, chopcze. 17:45:20 *sladegen* rests olalife. 17:46:33 kar8nga [~kar8nga@jol13-1-82-66-176-74.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #scheme 17:47:01 rudybot: t8 pl en za pilne, na zdrowie! 17:47:01 sladegen: for urgent health! 17:47:52 choas [~lars@p5B0DC68A.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #scheme 17:48:01 still one marginal detail. 17:49:08 ros3 [~roselynro@99.13.242.166] has joined #scheme 17:49:32 metasyntax [~taylor@75-149-208-121-Illinois.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has joined #scheme 17:59:26 jewel [~jewel@196-210-187-11-tbnb-esr-2.dynamic.isadsl.co.za] has joined #scheme 18:01:31 -!- chittoor [~chittoor@listertech.in] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 18:02:10 JoelMcCracken [~joelmccra@c-98-239-182-129.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 18:04:26 -!- ros3 [~roselynro@99.13.242.166] has quit [Quit: ros3] 18:05:05 -!- k0rn [~k0rn@38-247.200-68.tampabay.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 18:07:01 HG` [~HG@xdsleb039.osnanet.de] has joined #scheme 18:08:32 ros3 [~roselynro@99.13.242.166] has joined #scheme 18:14:18 -!- fabe [~fabe@p54A7DD71.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:18:08 Zarutian_ [~zarutian@194-144-84-110.du.xdsl.is] has joined #scheme 18:18:18 langmartin [~user@exeuntcha2.tva.gov] has joined #scheme 18:18:18 -!- Zarutian [~zarutian@194-144-84-110.du.xdsl.is] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 18:18:18 -!- Zarutian_ is now known as Zarutian 18:19:08 k0rn [~k0rn@38-247.200-68.tampabay.res.rr.com] has joined #scheme 18:24:14 -!- JoelMcCracken [~joelmccra@c-98-239-182-129.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 18:43:34 -!- k0rn [~k0rn@38-247.200-68.tampabay.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 18:46:47 -!- grettke [~rettke@mawdryn.mscs.mu.edu] has left #scheme 18:48:35 -!- asarch [~asarch@187.132.90.29] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 18:49:01 Zarutian_ [~zarutian@194-144-84-110.du.xdsl.is] has joined #scheme 18:49:56 JoelMcCracken [~joelmccra@c-98-239-182-129.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 18:50:53 Mohamdu [~Mohamdu@CPE0013f7bc6820-CM0013f7bc681c.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #scheme 18:51:23 -!- Zarutian [~zarutian@194-144-84-110.du.xdsl.is] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 18:51:23 -!- Zarutian_ is now known as Zarutian 18:53:31 -!- Michael_Mohamed [~Mohamdu@CPE0013f7bc6820-CM0013f7bc681c.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:55:28 -!- melba [~blee@unaffiliated/lazz0] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:57:45 -!- eno [~eno@nslu2-linux/eno] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:58:44 eno [~eno@nslu2-linux/eno] has joined #scheme 18:59:20 melba [~blee@unaffiliated/lazz0] has joined #scheme 19:01:43 -!- ros3 [~roselynro@99.13.242.166] has quit [Quit: ros3] 19:02:05 maw: that's what i meant by verbatim. I don't think you have to escape things 19:02:55 aintme [~Miranda@230.36.221.87.dynamic.jazztel.es] has joined #scheme 19:07:55 ysph [~user@24-181-93-165.dhcp.leds.al.charter.com] has joined #scheme 19:07:57 proq [~user@unaffiliated/proqesi] has joined #scheme 19:08:06 -!- joast [~rick@76.178.178.72] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 19:09:01 ros3 [~roselynro@99.13.242.166] has joined #scheme 19:13:54 I decided to port a small C++ library of mine over to scheme as a learning experiment, and I came across an issue that I'm uncertain of how to address in scheme. 19:15:01 I'm at a loss for how to write an efficient implementation of a function (discard-odd-bits x), where x is a bit-field of some arbitrary length. 19:15:49 how did you do it in C++ 19:15:54 In C++, this is accomplished via some template metaprogramming tricks to generate a bit mask followed by a bitwise-and. 19:16:42 The function doesn't need to remove the odd bits: just set them to zero. Any suggestions? 19:17:10 most schemes have bitwise-and, so all you need is to generate the mask? 19:17:32 Yes. 19:20:17 And you don't know the width of the input at compile time? 19:21:31 I do know the width at compile time. 19:22:08 schmir [~schmir@p54A92AA6.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #scheme 19:22:11 OK, so which part are you having trouble with? 19:22:14 http://paste.lisp.org/display/99046 19:22:16 seems to work 19:22:44 ill change it so you can pass in arbitrary widths 19:23:21 -!- luz [~davids@139.82.89.70] has quit [Quit: Client exiting] 19:23:48 I think jonrafkind may have solved it for me: my problem is that I'm still a scheme novice and don't know all of the equivalent functionality. 19:24:06 that only works in plt, what system are you in? 19:24:13 Does define-syntax force static evaluation, to some reasonable extent? 19:24:15 plt = drscheme, mzscheme 19:24:18 yes 19:24:27 I'm using chicken at the moment. I'm not overly attached though. 19:24:51 the main point is the function is defined using `define-syntax', the defaults (for/fold) and whatnot will differ between scheme's 19:25:01 s/defaults/details 19:25:56 Thanks, that was the tidbit I was looking for. I didn't pick up that detail about define-syntax from TSPL, for some reason (I may have just overlooked it). 19:26:03 http://paste.lisp.org/display/99046#1 19:26:07 now you can pass in arbitrary widths 19:26:49 is this functionality a bottleneck in your program? it seems pretty trivial to do at run-time 19:28:29 It was in C++ until I used some template tricks (this is actually happening on several million quadwords a second in the production app), but this port is mostly a learning experiment. 19:29:39 Thanks again for the help: those snippets clarified things, now I just need to test. 19:30:00 Obfuscate: not directly related to your problem, but since you're using chicken, maybe you'll find http://3e8.org/chickadee/ useful. And there's #chicken on freenode too. 19:30:14 boscop [~boscop@g230099210.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #scheme 19:30:53 -!- alvatar [~alvatar@146.119.20.95.dynamic.jazztel.es] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 19:30:54 alvatar_ [~alvatar@108.127.222.87.dynamic.jazztel.es] has joined #scheme 19:31:56 mario-goulart: Ah, thanks. I've just been using grep for the eggs. 19:32:24 May as well join. :) 19:32:49 Obfuscate: chickadee is a web interface for chicken-doc (a command line tool): http://chicken.wiki.br/eggref/4/chicken-doc 19:33:22 Thomas_H [~Thomas_H@d207-6-77-199.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #scheme 19:35:06 Oh, I see. I wasn't even aware of the -m re option (admittedly, I never looked). 19:35:13 -!- schmir [~schmir@p54A92AA6.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:35:58 Obfuscate: it's a new option. It was added some weeks ago. 19:40:28 I'm not sure that can excuse me. ;) 19:41:13 :-) 19:41:36 -!- Blkt [~user@dynamic-adsl-94-34-40-173.clienti.tiscali.it] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:41:48 -!- aintme [~Miranda@230.36.221.87.dynamic.jazztel.es] has quit [Quit: /* */] 19:50:36 -!- JoelMcCracken [~joelmccra@c-98-239-182-129.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 19:54:56 joast [~rick@76.178.178.72] has joined #scheme 20:00:14 -!- ysph [~user@24-181-93-165.dhcp.leds.al.charter.com] has quit [Quit: ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)] 20:10:47 -!- HG` [~HG@xdsleb039.osnanet.de] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 20:11:47 -!- alvatar_ [~alvatar@108.127.222.87.dynamic.jazztel.es] has quit [Quit: leaving] 20:15:43 -!- gravicappa [~gravicapp@ppp85-141-166-161.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:21:52 R3cur51v3 [~Recursive@173-29-151-107.client.mchsi.com] has joined #scheme 20:23:03 -!- R3cur51v3 [~Recursive@173-29-151-107.client.mchsi.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:24:28 R3cur51v3 [~Recursive@173-29-151-107.client.mchsi.com] has joined #scheme 20:30:54 -!- ros3 [~roselynro@99.13.242.166] has quit [Quit: ros3] 20:40:46 ros3 [~roselynro@70-36-146-118.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net] has joined #scheme 20:47:35 -!- stis [~chatzilla@1-1-1-39a.veo.vs.bostream.se] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:49:55 -!- Consalvo [~user@67-23-7-228.static.slicehost.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:52:56 MononcQc [~mononcqc@modemcable062.225-20-96.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #scheme 21:00:45 jmcphers [~jmcphers@218.185.108.156] has joined #scheme 21:02:29 -!- choas [~lars@p5B0DC68A.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: leaving] 21:09:37 -!- kar8nga [~kar8nga@jol13-1-82-66-176-74.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:11:18 -!- langmartin [~user@exeuntcha2.tva.gov] has quit [Quit: ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)] 21:14:36 Michael_Mohamed [~Mohamdu@CPE0013f7bc6820-CM0013f7bc681c.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #scheme 21:15:03 -!- Mohamdu [~Mohamdu@CPE0013f7bc6820-CM0013f7bc681c.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 21:21:40 -!- zbrown [~suifur@unaffiliated/zbrown] has left #scheme 21:23:48 Loverboy90 [~oguz@217.131.100.196] has joined #scheme 21:25:08 Adamant [~Adamant@unaffiliated/adamant] has joined #scheme 21:25:59 -!- Thomas_H [~Thomas_H@d207-6-77-199.bchsia.telus.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 21:33:20 JoelMcCracken [~joelmccra@pool-72-95-204-229.pitbpa.east.verizon.net] has joined #scheme 21:34:56 bgs100 [~ian@unaffiliated/bgs100] has joined #scheme 21:37:17 -!- Loverboy90 [~oguz@217.131.100.196] has quit [] 21:39:59 -!- R3cur51v3 [~Recursive@173-29-151-107.client.mchsi.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:41:53 -!- virl [~virl__@chello062178085149.1.12.vie.surfer.at] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:42:08 dfkjjkfd [~paulh@185-13-ftth.onsnetstudenten.nl] has joined #scheme 21:42:47 -!- doc_who [~doc_who@c-98-231-201-176.hsd1.md.comcast.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:43:42 Mkman [~tiago@bl17-3-145.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #scheme 21:43:49 hey 21:45:11 crapyminosa [~crazyshop@bl17-3-145.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #scheme 21:45:14 hey dudes 21:45:35 why scheme is used on a lots of university? 21:45:43 i want to start programming :) 21:47:48 scheme is good to learn 21:48:02 and why? 21:48:25 i need to develop my programming logic 21:48:31 it doesnt throw a bunch of unrelated crap in your way 21:49:08 if you use C then you have to learn about memory and IO. if you use java/c++/python you have to learn about object oriented programming almost immediately 21:49:55 so what book you recommend? 21:50:09 www.htdp.org 21:51:15 and Structure and Interpretation of Computer Programs is a good book? 21:51:36 its not bad, it might be a little tough depending on your mathematical background 21:52:10 humm ok :) 21:52:36 aleix [~aleix@79.176.219.87.dynamic.jazztel.es] has joined #scheme 21:53:23 -!- aleix [~aleix@79.176.219.87.dynamic.jazztel.es] has quit [Client Quit] 21:55:24 -!- crapyminosa [~crazyshop@bl17-3-145.dsl.telepac.pt] has quit [Quit: Saindo] 21:55:34 schmir [~schmir@p54A91D29.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #scheme 21:56:05 what kind of math do you need for sicp? 21:57:20 -!- dfkjjkfd [~paulh@185-13-ftth.onsnetstudenten.nl] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 21:59:05 well section 1.3 talks about derivatives 22:00:46 -!- Mkman [~tiago@bl17-3-145.dsl.telepac.pt] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 22:01:44 -!- djjack_ [~djjack@cpe-098-026-029-215.nc.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: leaving] 22:05:03 -!- schmir [~schmir@p54A91D29.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 22:05:32 -!- jonrafkind [~jon@crystalis.cs.utah.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 22:07:11 snarkyboojum [~snarkyboo@110-174-43-105.static.tpgi.com.au] has joined #scheme 22:18:58 -!- MononcQc [~mononcqc@modemcable062.225-20-96.mc.videotron.ca] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 22:21:34 schmir [~schmir@p54A91CBD.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #scheme 22:23:17 pjb [~t@81.202.18.80.dyn.user.ono.com] has joined #scheme 22:23:19 MononcQc [~mononcqc@modemcable062.225-20-96.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #scheme 22:23:55 Mohamdu [~Mohamdu@CPE0013f7bc6820-CM0013f7bc681c.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #scheme 22:24:25 -!- JoelMcCracken [~joelmccra@pool-72-95-204-229.pitbpa.east.verizon.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:26:47 -!- Michael_Mohamed [~Mohamdu@CPE0013f7bc6820-CM0013f7bc681c.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 22:27:45 -!- fooki [fooki@h-73-135.A165.priv.bahnhof.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:27:56 cpr420 [~cpr420@unaffiliated/cpr420] has joined #scheme 22:29:18 -!- ros3 [~roselynro@70-36-146-118.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net] has quit [Quit: ros3] 22:32:42 Thomas_H [~Thomas_H@d207-6-77-199.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #scheme 22:40:44 -!- pavelludiq [~quassel@87.246.58.237] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:42:46 -!- nurv [nurv@83.231.94.33] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 22:42:55 hadronzoo [~hadronzoo@64.134.147.37] has joined #scheme 22:45:08 ros3 [~roselynro@70-36-146-118.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net] has joined #scheme 22:53:10 -!- timj_ [~timj@e176200166.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 22:59:07 metasyntax` [~taylor@pool-71-127-125-129.aubnin.fios.verizon.net] has joined #scheme 23:02:04 -!- ski__ [~md9slj@remote3.student.chalmers.se] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 23:05:16 timj_ [~timj@e176196134.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #scheme 23:10:57 -!- schmir [~schmir@p54A91CBD.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:13:06 -!- fschwidom [~fschwidom@p5B26AA18.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:16:17 boscop_ [~boscop@g225225255.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #scheme 23:18:03 -!- boscop [~boscop@g230099210.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 23:22:47 -!- bweaver [~user@75-148-111-133-Chattanooga.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has quit [Quit: ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)] 23:24:27 Michael_Mohamed [~Mohamdu@CPE0013f7bc6820-CM0013f7bc681c.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #scheme 23:25:17 -!- boscop_ [~boscop@g225225255.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [] 23:27:17 -!- masm [~masm@bl10-5-202.dsl.telepac.pt] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 23:27:30 -!- Mohamdu [~Mohamdu@CPE0013f7bc6820-CM0013f7bc681c.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:28:17 -!- samth is now known as samth_away 23:42:30 -!- ros3 [~roselynro@70-36-146-118.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net] has quit [Quit: ros3] 23:45:13 doc_who [~doc_who@c-98-231-201-176.hsd1.md.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 23:45:17 hello 23:51:16 -!- snarkyboojum [~snarkyboo@110-174-43-105.static.tpgi.com.au] has quit [Quit: snarkyboojum]