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02:24:49 eli: top-eval (xlate (one-quote) "en" "sw") 02:25:11 offby1: ! 02:44:46 saint_cypher [~saint_cyp@c-76-126-70-224.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 02:47:45 -!- Thomas_H [~Thomas_H@d207-6-77-199.bchsia.telus.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 02:52:33 timj_ [~timj@e176219062.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #scheme 02:53:28 -!- timj [~timj@e176206040.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 02:59:25 -!- hadronzoo [~hadronzoo@64.134.147.37] has quit [Quit: hadronzoo] 03:05:56 adu [~ajr@pool-173-66-16-26.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has joined #scheme 03:10:03 -!- saccade_ [~saccade@209-6-54-113.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:14:58 -!- tommc [~6d4aca2b@gateway/web/freenode/x-dysxayvbuhbbbzgf] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 03:15:09 saccade_ [~saccade@209-6-54-113.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com] has joined #scheme 03:18:04 -!- k0rn [~k0rn@68.200.247.38] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 03:18:12 -!- bgs100 [~ian@unaffiliated/bgs100] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 03:21:34 -!- xwl [~user@125.34.171.190] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:22:07 xwl [~user@125.34.171.190] has joined #scheme 03:22:51 -!- seangrove [~user@114.204.186.241] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 03:26:46 -!- FunkyDrummer [~RageOfTho@users-55-218.vinet.ba] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 03:30:43 hadronzoo [~hadronzoo@ppp-70-251-113-5.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has joined #scheme 03:35:51 -!- timj_ [~timj@e176219062.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 03:47:32 timj_ [~timj@e176222203.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #scheme 04:23:04 my secrets revealed! 04:23:28 eli: say, here's a tough one -- I want to talk to Amazon's "simple DB" server -- which has a REST API ... 04:23:53 That's simple then. 04:23:58 but (as described at http://docs.amazonwebservices.com/AmazonSimpleDB/latest/DeveloperGuide/index.html?REST_RESTAuth.html), they require different URL-encoding than provided by net/url. 04:24:00 -rudybot:#scheme- http://tinyurl.com/34o3hr2 04:24:24 short of rewriting everything from call/input-url up, I cannot find a way to use my own encoding scheme. 04:24:57 What's the difference? 04:25:10 well, Amazon wants + encoded as %20, e.g. 04:25:18 rudybot: require (net/url) 04:25:18 *offby1: but (as described at http://docs.amazonwebservices.com/AmazonSimpleDB/latest/DeveloperGuide/index.html?REST_RESTAuth.html), they require different URL-encoding than provided by net/url. 04:25:23 rudybot: eval require (net/url) 04:25:24 *offby1: error: eval:1:0: require: bad syntax in: require 04:25:30 rudybot: eval (require net/url) 04:26:46 rudybot: eval (make-url "http" #f "frotz.com" #f #t (list) `((foo . "bar and baz")) #f) 04:26:47 *offby1: ; Value: #(struct:url "http" #f "frotz.com" #f #t () ((foo . "bar and baz")) #f) 04:26:58 .oO(since when are URLs transparent?) 04:27:03 rudybot: eval (url->string (make-url "http" #f "frotz.com" #f #t (list) `((foo . "bar and baz")) #f)) 04:27:03 *offby1: ; Value: "http://frotz.com?foo=bar+and+baz" 04:27:20 see, amazon wants that to be "http://frotz.com?foo=bar%20and%20baz" 04:27:27 and I don't think I can properly sign my request 04:29:27 ugh. 04:29:37 That whole url thing is diseased. 04:29:56 I'm not getting near changing how URLs are encoded... 04:29:58 (I've talked to aws successfully before, but that was s3 and this is simpledb; I think the two services use different code) 04:30:07 That's asking for trouble I really don't need... 04:30:40 But maybe it'll work to have some keyword thing that will let you send your own string? 04:30:45 Or something like that? 04:30:49 that's one way 04:30:58 another would be to let me provide my own encoding procedure 04:31:28 it's strange ... 04:31:37 That'll be redundant if the only thing to use your function with is your url string. 04:31:59 I think in a perfect world, I'd be signing the _un_encoded stuff; therefore it wouldn't matter if I used an alternate-but-legitimate encoding 04:32:09 Part of the problem, IMO, is forcing everything to go through the url parser, which requires it to cover all odd cases. 04:45:27 -!- Nshag [user@lns-bzn-28-82-250-146-158.adsl.proxad.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 04:50:10 hi 04:58:05 Nshag [user@lns-bzn-52-82-65-84-199.adsl.proxad.net] has joined #scheme 05:07:03 Zarutian [~zarutian@194-144-84-110.du.xdsl.is] has joined #scheme 05:13:25 Jafet [~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet] has joined #scheme 05:17:50 madmuppet006 [~madmuppet@203-211-80-11.ue.woosh.co.nz] has joined #scheme 05:20:38 I am trying one of the problems in the little schemer where it does division .. I have a problem understanding how the add1 knows how to add to the condition 0? 05:22:29 madmuppet006: I certainly don't have a copy of "The Little Schemer" in front of me, and I doubt anyone else here does either 05:22:41 perhaps if you asked an actual question ... ? 05:24:16 offby1: will try and paste it then ask questions 05:24:20 sure 05:25:34 Cowmoo [~Cowmoo@c-71-192-163-98.hsd1.nh.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 05:29:47 ok I got the code on http://pastebin.com/BrvY3PUp 05:30:33 I want to know how the add1 which is adds 1 knows how to add to the 0 in line 4? 05:32:59 -!- Cowmoo [~Cowmoo@c-71-192-163-98.hsd1.nh.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:33:30 I have included the add1 in www.pastebin.com/m2HXf8rv 05:34:33 hold on 05:35:28 hmm 05:35:36 I _think_ I know what you're asking ... 05:35:40 ... or maybe not ... 05:35:57 anyway, in line 4 we see (add1 (0/ (- m n) n)) 05:36:27 that means: subtract n from m. That that number, and pass it, along with n, to 0/. Then take whatever that returns, and add 1 to it. 05:36:33 hmm ((< M N)0) 05:36:33 Nothing terribly complicated. 05:36:47 Perhaps you're confused because the call to 0/ is recursive. 05:36:55 pinchyfingers [~user@pool-173-62-244-19.phlapa.fios.verizon.net] has joined #scheme 05:37:03 i.e., the definition of the function 0/ contains within it a call to ... itself. 05:38:00 offby1: thanks a little light just went off .. dont know if its exactly what youre saying but it explains it pretty good 05:38:04 rudybot: eval (define (make-xs n) (if (zero? n) '() (cons 'x (make-xs (sub1 n))))) 05:38:10 rudybot: eval (make-xs 5) 05:38:10 *offby1: ; Value: (x x x x x) 05:38:15 a simpler example of recursion 05:38:21 grok that, and you're on your way 05:38:41 appreciate the help 05:38:46 that's what we're here for. 05:38:59 (that, and making jokes about beer and Java programmers) 05:39:39 oh, watch this 05:39:43 :p 05:39:45 rudybot: eval (make-xs 5.5) 05:39:50 *offby1* drums fingers 05:39:57 *offby1: error: with-limit: out of time 05:39:59 :) 05:40:07 madmuppet006: extra points if you can explain what just happened 05:40:12 -!- Poeir [~Poeir@c-98-228-60-162.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 05:40:56 -!- adu [~ajr@pool-173-66-16-26.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Quit: adu] 05:44:37 Im guessing that the (cons 'x <--- which has value 5.5 and the recursive function (make-xs (sub1 n)) never equal zero 05:45:06 exactly!! 05:45:22 -!- timj_ [~timj@e176222203.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 05:45:22 it goes 5.5 4.5 3.5 2.5 1.5 0.5 -.5 -1.5 -2.5 ... 05:45:29 and keeps going until the bot decides it's had enough 05:45:51 yeah it ran out of memory which happens with recursion 05:46:06 well, no; it didn't run out of memory; instead, it ran out of time. 05:46:20 and in scheme, if you're a bit careful, your recursions will not run out of memory. 05:46:28 that's a nice feature that scheme has that most other languages don't. 05:47:33 I am impressed with scheme it is a beautiful language 05:47:37 ayup 05:47:40 that's why I like it 05:47:53 it's not as useful as I wish it were, but it's sho' 'nuff beautiful 05:48:00 lol 05:50:16 Poeir [~Poeir@c-98-228-60-162.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 05:57:15 kniu [~kniu@128.237.230.115] has joined #scheme 05:57:47 -!- madmuppet006 [~madmuppet@203-211-80-11.ue.woosh.co.nz] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 06:00:40 -!- kniu [~kniu@128.237.230.115] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:06:56 timj_ [~timj@e176204114.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #scheme 06:09:47 -!- jonrafkind [~jon@c-67-172-254-235.hsd1.ut.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 06:11:30 jonrafkind [~jon@c-67-172-254-235.hsd1.ut.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 06:16:42 aoh [~aki@80.75.102.51] has joined #scheme 06:22:14 -!- Zarutian [~zarutian@194-144-84-110.du.xdsl.is] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 06:27:23 -!- timj_ [~timj@e176204114.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 06:28:34 -!- jonrafkind [~jon@c-67-172-254-235.hsd1.ut.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 06:33:02 -!- offby1 [~user@pdpc/supporter/monthlybyte/offby1] has quit [Disconnected by services] 06:37:32 fabe [~fabe@p54A7B823.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #scheme 06:39:00 offby1 [~ce7c8a7d@pdpc/supporter/monthlybyte/offby1] has joined #scheme 06:39:19 timj_ [~timj@e176209040.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #scheme 06:45:09 offby1` [~user@q-static-138-125.avvanta.com] has joined #scheme 06:45:29 -!- offby1 [~ce7c8a7d@pdpc/supporter/monthlybyte/offby1] has quit [Disconnected by services] 06:45:40 -!- offby1` is now known as offby1 06:45:44 -!- offby1 [~user@q-static-138-125.avvanta.com] has quit [Changing host] 06:45:44 offby1 [~user@pdpc/supporter/monthlybyte/offby1] has joined #scheme 06:53:46 Daemmerung [~goetter@1133sae.mazama.net] has joined #scheme 07:10:50 -!- timj_ [~timj@e176209040.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 07:11:43 -!- xwl [~user@125.34.171.190] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:12:15 xwl [~user@125.34.171.190] has joined #scheme 07:29:48 timj_ [~timj@e176215235.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #scheme 08:26:10 -!- timj_ [~timj@e176215235.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 08:40:46 choas [~lars@p5B0DE6EE.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #scheme 08:42:47 timj_ [~timj@e176197174.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #scheme 08:46:34 scheme definition requires the implementation to be properly tail-recursive 08:46:44 so do I still have to define that call is a tail-call 08:47:49 or why did I get stack overflow when when implementing ackermann function and running (ackermann 4 1) 08:47:55 Scheme defines exactly what a tail call is. 08:48:01 pavelludiq [~quassel@87.246.58.237] has joined #scheme 08:48:01 Ackermann cannot ever be tail-recursive. 08:48:41 A tail call is basically where the whole result of the function is a call to another function. 08:48:54 oh, I see 08:49:09 there's my problem! :) 08:50:31 but why cannot ackermann be tail recursive? 08:51:01 Well, the only way to make it tail recursive is to carry your own stack around. 08:51:08 It isn't primitive recursive. 08:52:04 alright, maybe I should read some more to get better understanding of tail recursion 08:52:31 thanks a lot, Jafet 08:53:25 a(n) isn't a great example -- you need a fair bit of theory to understand why it cannot be made tail-recursive 08:54:45 I would like to understand tail-recursion anyway, so I have to start somewhere 08:55:16 The textbooks, like SICP, probably 08:55:24 give examples 08:56:31 fortunately it is readable in online 08:56:46 yeah, SICP has a part where they discuss recursion vs iteration 08:57:08 What they call iteration is implemented by using tail recursion 08:57:50 zedstar [~john@fsf/member/zedstar] has joined #scheme 08:58:07 but I think I understand why ackermann is not 08:58:26 since the call to ackermann is not the last thing my program needs to do 09:02:21 e.g. (define (fun n) (- 1 (fun n))) wouldn't be tail-recursive but (define (fun n) (fun (- 1 n))) instead would be 09:02:24 right? 09:03:01 since in the first example the result of the function is not a call to function, but on the other example it is 09:07:56 aside from the fact that it would not return in the first example, the call to '-' is still tail recursive 09:08:32 well a tail call rather 09:15:45 incubot: long tail cut recursion is da place to be! 09:15:50 I think explicit recursion is a pattern that can usually be factored out 09:16:56 incubot: prime example being factorizing primes? 09:16:59 woah, the problem is, to make it a "real" prime-generator, you have to factorize all numbers generated by the function from above, because there are definetly composite numbers. now p_10 has already 106 digits.. and i thought it would be enough to implement some factorizing algorithm upon trail division 09:19:11 incubot: but what of unconditional forks in trails? can they be happy dead-ended? 09:19:14 So how does academic publishing work? Most researchers are funded by grants, I'm guessing these are typically unconditional because somehow the papers written as a result of the research are locked up by Springer (or some similar publisher). 09:20:47 incubot: most researchers are funded by illicit ivory trade and hashish smuggle on random conference excursions. 09:20:50 I'm sure I'll be able to smuggle it in through the backdoor on my next job :P ) 09:21:10 wink, wink. 09:24:52 -!- Sergio` [~positron@unaffiliated/sergio/x-8197433] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 09:35:14 kar8nga [~kar8nga@jol13-1-82-66-176-74.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #scheme 09:48:55 -!- choas [~lars@p5B0DE6EE.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: leaving] 09:51:59 -!- peddie [~peddie@adsl-76-254-67-169.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:52:09 peddie [~peddie@adsl-76-254-67-169.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net] has joined #scheme 10:08:01 -!- virl [~virl__@chello062178085149.1.12.vie.surfer.at] has quit [Ping timeout: 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rudybot: later tell foof: will your module proposal eventually say something about ? 14:51:23 minion: memo for foof:: rotty told me to tell you: will your module proposal eventually say something about ? 14:51:23 Remembered. I'll tell foof: when he/she/it next speaks. 14:57:52 timj [~timj@e176207221.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #scheme 14:58:51 bremner_ [~bremner@pivot.cs.unb.ca] has joined #scheme 15:11:55 -!- hohoho [~hohoho@ntkngw227224.kngw.nt.ftth.ppp.infoweb.ne.jp] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:12:18 Maxels [~Maxel@97-90-238-123.dhcp.eucl.wi.charter.com] has joined #scheme 15:15:14 -!- Maxel [~Maxel@97-90-238-123.dhcp.eucl.wi.charter.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 15:18:00 -!- bremner_ is now known as bremner 15:19:17 jewel [~jewel@196-210-187-11-tbnb-esr-2.dynamic.isadsl.co.za] has joined #scheme 15:20:54 hohoho [~hohoho@ntkngw227224.kngw.nt.ftth.ppp.infoweb.ne.jp] has joined #scheme 15:21:25 rotty: yep, basically it's a file name but i'll word it to not be filesystem specific 15:21:25 foof, memo from rudybot: rotty told me to tell you: will your module proposal eventually say something about ? 15:22:15 foof: i see, thanks 15:25:36 -!- _danb_ 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A number of multi-purpose bots I've seen have had issues with that. 19:14:15 It's quoting me to me. 19:22:29 jonrafkind [~jon@c-67-172-254-235.hsd1.ut.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 19:29:29 k0rn [~k0rn@38-247.200-68.tampabay.res.rr.com] has joined #scheme 19:33:13 IceGuest_75 [~IceChat7@88.243.190.117] has joined #scheme 19:34:44 -!- IceGuest_75 is now known as Trancee 19:36:50 -!- Trancee [~IceChat7@88.243.190.117] has quit [Client Quit] 19:41:49 rudybot: chandler: chandler: chandler: chandler 19:41:49 sladegen: at_> lly, chandler, kencausey: ping 19:42:35 rudybot: great trunceofragpoetry! 19:42:35 sladegen: there was a great webpage that explained how the camera sees your scene 19:42:44 poor elly was overwritten by an @-cat! 19:46:57 -!- aintme [~Miranda@182.37.221.87.dynamic.jazztel.es] has quit [Quit: /* */] 19:48:57 cky [~cky@cpe-065-190-148-048.nc.res.rr.com] has joined #scheme 19:55:10 fabe [~fabe@p54A7DD04.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #scheme 19:56:33 -!- cky [~cky@cpe-065-190-148-048.nc.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: cky] 19:56:52 cky [~cky@cpe-065-190-148-048.nc.res.rr.com] has joined #scheme 20:06:21 toekutr [~toekutr@adsl-69-107-101-169.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net] has joined #scheme 20:06:24 -!- toekutr [~toekutr@adsl-69-107-101-169.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:16:26 -!- jewel [~jewel@196-210-187-11-tbnb-esr-2.dynamic.isadsl.co.za] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:23:43 -!- k0rn [~k0rn@38-247.200-68.tampabay.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:29:30 ktzqbp [~ktzqbp@unaffiliated/ktzqbp] has joined #scheme 20:32:00 kniu [~kniu@HOHOHO.RES.CMU.EDU] has joined #scheme 20:35:04 -!- cpr420 [~cpr420@unaffiliated/cpr420] has quit [Quit: Vision[0.9.7-H-090423]: i've been blurred!] 20:42:54 aoh [~aki@80.75.102.51] has joined #scheme 20:46:12 -!- laevus [~marc@196-210-171-56-wrbs-esr-2.dynamic.isadsl.co.za] has quit [Quit: laevus] 20:53:45 -!- timj [~timj@e176200241.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 21:00:46 jmcphers [~jmcphers@218.185.108.156] has joined #scheme 21:01:27 HG` [~HG@xdslew204.osnanet.de] has joined #scheme 21:03:25 -!- HG` [~HG@xdslew204.osnanet.de] has quit [Client Quit] 21:05:53 -!- peddie_ [~peddie@adsl-76-254-69-115.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:06:16 peddie [~peddie@adsl-99-56-136-129.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net] has joined #scheme 21:06:32 timj [~timj@e176195124.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #scheme 21:07:04 -!- `q` is now known as Quadrescence 21:08:32 cpr420 [~cpr420@unaffiliated/cpr420] has joined #scheme 21:11:35 -!- wingo [~wingo@28.Red-88-17-207.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 21:19:15 -!- cableray [~cableray@c-71-196-192-9.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: cableray] 21:23:01 -!- ktzqbp [~ktzqbp@unaffiliated/ktzqbp] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 21:23:02 lisptastic [~user@76.177.227.49] has joined #scheme 21:25:18 -!- fschwidom [~fschwidom@p5B26C070.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:25:40 chandler: it's funny -- I have incubot's source code, and I've glanced at it casually, but I still don't actually know how it works. I simply made rudybot do what I _assumed_ incubot does. 21:27:46 Well, it doesn't seem any *less* useless. Admittedly, that'd be tough. 21:28:06 aw, you think entertainment is useless! 21:28:19 I don't think it's actually entertaining. 21:28:40 :-( 21:28:59 well, I didn't think most of Star Wars was actually entertaining, so there. 21:29:07 -!- adzuci [~ada2358@login.ccs.neu.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 21:29:38 dfeuer [~dfeuer@wikimedia/Dfeuer] has joined #scheme 21:30:35 adzuci [~ada2358@login.ccs.neu.edu] has joined #scheme 21:36:30 schmir [~schmir@p54A91E50.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #scheme 21:42:42 -!- kar8nga [~kar8nga@jol13-1-82-66-176-74.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:44:27 -!- zedstar [~john@fsf/member/zedstar] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 21:45:56 -!- saccade_ [~saccade@dhcp-18-111-84-184.dyn.mit.edu] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 21:47:53 -!- peddie [~peddie@adsl-99-56-136-129.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 21:48:52 -!- schmir [~schmir@p54A91E50.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:52:52 -!- melba [~blee@unaffiliated/lazz0] has quit [Quit: the crop circles are talking tooo meeeeeeee] 21:54:31 davazp [~user@83.57.37.58] has joined #scheme 21:54:33 djjack [~djjack@cpe-098-026-029-215.nc.res.rr.com] has joined #scheme 21:59:57 -!- stis [~chatzilla@1-1-1-39a.veo.vs.bostream.se] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.5.9/2010031700]] 22:03:18 -!- masm [~masm@bl10-5-11.dsl.telepac.pt] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 22:11:28 Sergio` [~positron@unaffiliated/sergio/x-8197433] has joined #scheme 22:15:16 -!- fabe [~fabe@p54A7DD04.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:25:13 arcfide [~arcfide@ppp-70-246-145-12.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net] has joined #scheme 22:25:20 Hey everyone, how's it going? 22:25:24 foof: Are you around? 22:26:34 briefly 22:26:55 Oh, well then, maybe I'll have to send you an email. I'm trying to understand a bit more about your claim that a static module system really improves the ease of static analysis. 22:27:06 I'm going over your module proposal right now. 22:27:46 I'm trying to get a feel for some of your claims in your Module overview as well. 22:32:14 "pork projects"? 22:33:33 Yeah, I just could not keep myself from seeing a similarity. 22:33:47 i don't see any similarity at all 22:34:20 "The term pork barrel politics usually refers to spending that is intended to benefit constituents of a politician in return for their political support..." 22:34:50 there's no spending, and no constituents 22:35:08 we're just asking for volunteers to hammer out different aspects of the new draft 22:35:08 of relevance also is the source of funds 22:35:53 Well, I don't want to get hung up on that. Would you mind letting me know what kind of static analysis is easier with something like the module system that you provided? 22:36:08 sure 22:36:19 ... later :) 22:36:25 Actually, your module system is rather close to Descot's Package language. 22:36:59 it's close to Scheme48 which is much, much older than Descot :P 22:37:05 Alright, well, feel free to send me an email. I'm going to try to improve my contribution rate a bit in the next few days. 22:38:09 I hope that you'll address the issues I raised regarding implementing something like ChezWEB, too. 22:48:05 Blkt` [~user@dynamic-adsl-94-34-40-173.clienti.tiscali.it] has joined #scheme 22:51:28 -!- Blkt [~user@dynamic-adsl-78-13-247-78.clienti.tiscali.it] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 22:52:49 seangrove [~user@114.205.210.27] has joined #scheme 22:53:13 -!- arcfide [~arcfide@ppp-70-246-145-12.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 23:10:45 -!- Cowmoo [~Cowmoo@c-71-192-163-98.hsd1.nh.comcast.net] has left #scheme 23:11:14 ktzqbp [~ktzqbp@unaffiliated/ktzqbp] has joined #scheme 23:15:18 _danb_ [~user@124-168-128-117.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #scheme 23:26:38 -!- hadronzoo [~hadronzoo@ppp-70-251-113-5.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has quit [Quit: hadronzoo] 23:31:58 -!- Poeir [~Poeir@c-98-228-60-162.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 23:33:01 Poeir [~Poeir@c-98-228-60-162.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 23:33:37 -!- pavelludiq [~quassel@87.246.58.237] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:40:06 saccade_ [~saccade@209-6-54-113.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com] has joined #scheme 23:41:21 -!- ktzqbp [~ktzqbp@unaffiliated/ktzqbp] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 23:42:43 -!- jmcphers [~jmcphers@218.185.108.156] has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 23:43:02 jmcphers [~jmcphers@218.185.108.156] has joined #scheme 23:44:09 -!- davazp [~user@83.57.37.58] has quit [Quit: ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)] 23:44:22 I have a project for someone who is good at scheme. 23:45:13 ktzqbp [~ktzqbp@unaffiliated/ktzqbp] has joined #scheme 23:49:14 -!- ktzqbp [~ktzqbp@unaffiliated/ktzqbp] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:51:08 -!- cpr420 [~cpr420@unaffiliated/cpr420] has quit [Quit: Vision[0.9.7-H-090423]: i've been blurred!] 23:54:32 cpr420 [~cpr@unaffiliated/cpr420] has joined #scheme 23:57:03 maw [web209_mar@pdpc/supporter/student/maw] has joined #scheme 23:57:45 kilimanjaro [~kilimanja@unaffiliated/kilimanjaro] has joined #scheme 23:57:59 How would I declare a char** argument with _fun in plt-scheme?