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I can't figure out this error: askForMove: bad syntax in: (askForMove) --referencing this line: (let move (askForMove) ). askForMove is a nullary operator that returns a list. 00:42:33 sorry for the emote, bad setting in my client. 00:52:32 cableray: Um, LET doesn't have that syntax. 00:53:35 isn't it (let var result functions)? 00:56:18 are you trying to use named let? If so, the syntax is: (let _proc-id ([_arg-id _init-expr] ...) _body ...+) 00:57:42 ah, got it. 00:57:44 -!- Fabse [~mightyfid@wikipedia/Track-n-Field] has quit [] 01:01:13 -!- fradgers- [~fradgers-@5ad4c06e.bb.sky.com] has left #scheme 01:15:40 -!- untouchable [untouchabl@dhcp-129-64-166-29.dorm.brandeis.edu] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:15:49 untouchable [untouchabl@dhcp-129-64-166-29.dorm.brandeis.edu] has joined #scheme 01:29:52 -!- bombshelter13b [~bombshelt@76-10-149-209.dsl.teksavvy.com] has quit [Quit: If only your veins were filled with oil, the world would rush to your rescue!] 01:30:16 bombshelter13b [~bombshelt@76-10-149-209.dsl.teksavvy.com] has joined #scheme 01:31:14 -!- sstrickl [~sstrickl@nomad.ccs.neu.edu] has quit [Quit: sstrickl] 01:32:11 -!- eno [~eno@nslu2-linux/eno] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 01:34:04 eno [~eno@nslu2-linux/eno] has joined #scheme 01:34:22 adu [~ajr@pool-74-96-89-29.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has joined #scheme 01:41:51 -!- bombshelter13b [~bombshelt@76-10-149-209.dsl.teksavvy.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:42:46 bombshelter13b [~bombshelt@76-10-149-209.dsl.teksavvy.com] has joined #scheme 01:52:12 -!- mbishop [~martin@adsl-156-111-54.msy.bellsouth.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 01:52:14 bokr [~eduska@95.154.102.124] has joined #scheme 01:52:18 sundaymo1ning, is there any underlying pattern to why a named-let is called a let you know off? 02:02:14 -!- ros3 [~roselynro@208.66.28.143] has left #scheme 02:04:24 kilimanjaro [~kilimanja@unaffiliated/kilimanjaro] has joined #scheme 02:11:17 mbishop [~martin@adsl-156-73-79.msy.bellsouth.net] has joined #scheme 02:11:20 -!- proq [~user@unaffiliated/proqesi] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 02:26:39 -!- saint_cypher [~saint_cyp@adsl-99-2-72-93.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 02:40:28 sah0s [~anto@92.251.176.217.threembb.ie] has joined #scheme 02:40:33 -!- sah0s [~anto@92.251.176.217.threembb.ie] has quit [Client Quit] 02:46:23 -!- bgs000 is now known as bgs100 02:52:55 timj__ [~timj@e176223090.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #scheme 02:56:04 -!- timj_ [~timj@e176213036.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 03:09:44 -!- bgs100 is now known as bgs000 03:33:12 virl [~virl__@chello062178085149.1.12.vie.surfer.at] has joined #scheme 03:44:59 jonrafkind [~jon@c-98-202-82-46.hsd1.ut.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 03:45:20 Lajla: It's common to recursive functions to have accumulator paramenters and the like which need to be initialized. So it seems to me that named let is there to make it easier 03:49:55 instead of doing (define (fact* n acc) (if (= n 1) acc (fact* (- n 1) (* n acc)))) (define (fact n) (fact* n 1)) 03:50:08 you can avoid the first define using named let 03:50:15 I think that's the reason for it 03:55:39 proq [~user@unaffiliated/proqesi] has joined #scheme 03:57:52 -!- seangrove [~user@c-67-188-2-246.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:58:30 seangrove [~user@c-67-188-2-246.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 03:58:33 myu2 [~myu2@161.90.128.210.bf.2iij.net] has joined #scheme 04:01:04 -!- myu2 [~myu2@161.90.128.210.bf.2iij.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:01:07 sounds right 04:02:38 Since it seems apropos, I would like to quote the Codex Astartes: "In war, one should seek to take and hold the high ground. From there, the enemy's movements are clearly visible, and he will struggle just to reach you. High orbit is the highest ground there is." 04:03:05 myu2 [~myu2@161.90.128.210.bf.2iij.net] has joined #scheme 04:03:48 You're also easier to spot : on top of the hill. 04:04:28 Has Astartes never heard of an air raid? 04:04:46 the Astartes are the Space Marines from 40k 04:04:49 they know all about air raids 04:05:45 Perhaps I'm not enough into warhammer to fully enjoy the quote 04:06:06 Perhaps! 04:06:14 in any case, air raids < orbital bombardment 04:06:23 *offby1* is too lazy to climb to the top of the hill 04:06:40 And high orbit means "one side of the planet". That gives me half a rotation of the planet to get into orbit myself, from which point we both are at the same level. 04:06:43 offby1: when you get devoured by the unclean, we will watch and laugh :P 04:06:54 Axioplase_: huh? get /lots/ of your ships into high orbit 04:06:58 elly: meanie 04:07:07 then destroy the planet and burn it down to its bedrock 04:07:52 How useful. 04:08:13 What else are you going to do? The enemy is on it! 04:08:14 *Axioplase_* doesn't get the point of such behaviour. 04:08:26 good, that means you are a sane human being :P 04:09:13 drwho [~drwho@c-71-225-11-30.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 04:09:59 Then leave the enemy there ! You don't have to nuke him. Just send David Hasselhof. 04:11:51 elly: I have many enemies on this very planet, but I haven't considered burning it down. 04:12:03 offby1: Insufficient aggressor response. 04:12:08 Too many innocent cats and taco trucks would be destroyed 04:12:11 I'd miss them 04:12:18 Sending David Hasselhoff into high orbit is a fine idea. 04:14:34 elly: you should read "The Defense of Duffer's Drift 04:14:36 " 04:14:52 should I? 04:15:03 well, maybe not. but it's interesting. 04:15:35 early 20th Century article that shows that "get on top of the hill and hold it" ain't necessarily the best idea. 04:15:51 I think it's still on the reading list for military officers 04:15:51 -!- sundaymo1ning [~root@189.107.171.219] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 04:16:18 definitely not sci-fi or Warhammer-y though 04:17:34 and yeah, Warhammer 40k is fscked up even by the standard of Genghis Khan :P 04:20:05 In the grim future of Hello Kitty, there is only war. 04:21:40 carried out by robotic hugging machines that squeeze just a little too hard 04:21:58 but not actually enough to do physical damage 04:22:28 they are unable to terminate their hug-giving behaviors 04:22:57 Chuu!! *crushes skull* 04:38:33 Jafet [~Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet] has joined #scheme 04:47:14 -!- proq [~user@unaffiliated/proqesi] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 05:03:30 -!- MononcQc [~ferd@modemcable062.225-20-96.mc.videotron.ca] has quit [Quit: leaving] 05:06:41 -!- virl [~virl__@chello062178085149.1.12.vie.surfer.at] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:10:45 -!- Mikaeel_Mohamed [~Mohamdu@129-97-241-106.uwaterloo.ca] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 05:12:41 leppie [~lolcow@196-210-254-137.dynamic.isadsl.co.za] has joined #scheme 05:34:28 -!- drwho [~drwho@c-71-225-11-30.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 05:35:48 pavelludiq [~quassel@91.139.196.209] has joined #scheme 05:36:25 phao [~phao@189.107.134.188] has joined #scheme 05:39:50 kar8nga 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07:10:20 he made away with all the gold 07:10:28 argh. 07:10:34 Why don't people hilight me when that happens? 07:10:40 I swear I'll catch him some day 07:10:42 I dunno. 07:14:08 just remember, his name is not Dr. Richard Gimbal. 07:14:20 or Kimble or Kimbal either. 07:14:28 Aha. 07:14:33 Do you happen to know which way he went? 07:14:49 Or possibly the name of a mysterious woman that was once involved with him until he spurned her? 07:15:22 you know, in this maze of tubes that are not trucks, I can't really tell which way he went. 07:15:32 ...darn it. 07:15:36 Some bystander you are! 07:16:53 :( 07:17:04 the spinoff movie will be OK though 07:17:14 if not particularly inspired 07:17:17 You might get written out of it 07:17:23 I'm confident in saying that much. 07:17:53 ah, the Great Eraser/White-Out/Undo Key in the Sky 07:18:21 or aktually, in the hands of the writer 07:18:30 http://jlongster.com/blog/2010/04/01/abandoning-scheme/ 07:18:36 who is not happy that the director gets all 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has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:31:41 Question 12:31:45 Anyone awake? 12:31:59 Can I do this? 12:32:29 (let ((halves (cons (list 1 2) (list 3 4))) 12:32:46 (left (car halves)) 12:32:57 (right (cdr halves))) 12:33:34 I vaguely remember another let syntax to do this, but I'm not sure whether this is it? 12:33:38 let*? 12:34:45 Jafet: Sweetness :) 12:34:48 Thankyou :) 12:43:30 -!- bipt [~bpt@cl-851.chi-02.us.sixxs.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 12:49:39 -!- xavieran [~xavieran@ppp118-209-242-153.lns20.mel6.internode.on.net] has quit [Quit:  UniCode shall rein forever! ] 13:09:58 xavieran [~xavieran@ppp118-209-242-153.lns20.mel6.internode.on.net] has joined #scheme 13:10:20 Is there a list slicing primitive? 13:10:34 ie, (slice (list 1 2 3) 0 2)->(1 2) 13:11:15 given this: (define xs '(list 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10)) 13:11:30 i want to change the word 'list' to '+' so i can get the sum 13:11:34 how do i do that? 13:12:58 xavieran, have you checked srfi-1? 13:13:32 Um 13:13:36 What is srfi-1 ? 13:13:38 pastorn: (apply + (cdr xs)) 13:13:43 Apparently not. 13:13:44 I'm _very_ new to scheme 13:13:59 R5RS doesn't have such a primitive, although you could write one easily enough 13:15:07 I am writing one :) 13:15:08 sloyd: cool, you're AWESOME 13:15:15 It's an educational experience... 13:15:28 btw, that image with the two hans holding each others wrists, where's that from? 13:16:21 Escher, "Drawing Hands" 13:16:30 Or not. 13:17:19 Jafet: almost, but in the image i'm thinking of they're holding each others wrists, not drawing them :) 13:24:44 -!- mbishop [~martin@adsl-156-73-79.msy.bellsouth.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 13:26:56 masm [~masm@bl7-36-130.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #scheme 13:34:43 -!- masm [~masm@bl7-36-130.dsl.telepac.pt] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 13:37:22 MrFahrenheit [~RageOfTho@users-33-33.vinet.ba] has joined #scheme 13:41:03 mbishop [~martin@adsl-156-73-79.msy.bellsouth.net] has joined #scheme 13:43:32 metasyntax 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[user@lns-bzn-22-82-249-98-71.adsl.proxad.net] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 19:05:18 Nshag [user@lns-bzn-22-82-249-98-71.adsl.proxad.net] has joined #scheme 19:15:05 hey guys 19:15:15 i have a very basic question regarding the usage of lists 19:15:38 i'm reading the Little Schemer and i want to try out the examples on my computer 19:16:09 i have installed plt-scheme and tried using drscheme and mzscheme 19:16:23 i don't understand why i need to quote my lists to work with them 19:16:39 Mandar: (x y z) means "call procedure x with arguments y and z" 19:17:19 oh that's why that works with unquoted numbers 19:17:19 So if you do (chicken curry with french fries) it tries to find the procedure named "chicken", but there is no such thing 19:17:28 thanks :) 19:17:31 np :) 19:21:32 phao [~phao@189.107.154.234] has joined #scheme 19:24:28 -!- Lajla [~Lajla@213-84-222-243.adsl.xs4all.nl] has quit [Quit: Phallic Illuminatus] 19:27:41 -!- dzhus 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