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19:22:51 well plt for sure 19:23:27 but in general theres usually some library that you can work off 19:23:37 -!- stepnem [n=stepnem@88.103.132.186] has quit [Excess Flood] 19:23:48 LL77 [n=ll@78-21-35-139.access.telenet.be] has joined #scheme 19:23:49 stepnem [n=stepnem@88.103.132.186] has joined #scheme 19:27:19 -!- snearch [n=olaf@g225049242.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit ["Ex-Chat"] 19:28:28 what library choices do I have for protable scheme code? 19:28:33 I know Snow, and looks nice 19:28:37 is there any other? 19:29:20 protable -> portable :D 19:31:37 -!- leppie [n=lolcow@dsl-243-43-34.telkomadsl.co.za] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 19:33:42 mejja [n=user@c-49b6e555.023-82-73746f38.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #scheme 19:34:28 LL33 [n=ll@78-21-35-139.access.telenet.be] has joined #scheme 19:35:42 SharkBrain [n=gerard@210.48.104.34] has joined #scheme 19:37:08 LL55 [n=ll@78-21-35-139.access.telenet.be] has joined #scheme 19:37:26 Mohamdu [n=Mohamdu@rn--vse-1-1-a29.uwaterloo.ca] has joined #scheme 19:37:44 must go :( 19:37:46 o/ 19:37:48 -!- alvatar [n=alvatar@202.126.222.87.dynamic.jazztel.es] has quit ["leaving"] 19:40:01 -!- LL [n=ll@78-21-35-139.access.telenet.be] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 19:40:01 -!- LL55 is now known as LL 19:42:24 -!- Mikaeel_Mohamed [n=Mohamdu@129-97-208-115.uwaterloo.ca] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 19:43:06 -!- Mohamdu [n=Mohamdu@rn--vse-1-1-a29.uwaterloo.ca] has quit [Client Quit] 19:46:50 leppie [n=lolcow@dsl-243-43-34.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #scheme 19:51:21 -!- LL77 [n=ll@78-21-35-139.access.telenet.be] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 19:54:20 -!- LL33 [n=ll@78-21-35-139.access.telenet.be] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 19:57:08 -!- MichaelRaskin [n=MichaelR@195.91.224.225] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 19:57:18 MichaelRaskin [n=MichaelR@195.91.224.225] has joined #scheme 20:23:06 Belaf [n=campedel@194.209.131.192] has joined #scheme 20:28:16 -!- hkBst [n=hkBst@gentoo/developer/hkbst] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 20:31:22 -!- leppie [n=lolcow@dsl-243-43-34.telkomadsl.co.za] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 20:33:38 -!- Narrenschiff [n=ritchie@xolotl.plus.com] has quit [] 20:37:16 leppie [n=lolcow@dsl-243-43-34.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #scheme 20:40:17 -!- cky_ is now known as cky 20:46:43 LL77 [n=ll@78-21-35-139.access.telenet.be] has joined #scheme 20:47:27 -!- kenjin2201 [n=kenjin@220.120.43.80] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 20:52:15 -!- LL [n=ll@78-21-35-139.access.telenet.be] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 20:52:15 -!- LL77 is now known as LL 21:04:16 -!- jao [n=jao@232.Red-83-50-64.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 21:04:18 jao [n=jao@232.Red-83-50-64.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #scheme 21:08:43 -!- Belaf [n=campedel@194.209.131.192] has left #scheme 21:08:47 jmcphers [n=jmcphers@218.185.108.156] has joined #scheme 21:09:04 re-l [n=re-l@c-98-197-118-188.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 21:22:02 -!- MrFahrenheit [n=RageOfTh@users-55-104.vinet.ba] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 21:22:14 jlf` [n=user@pdpc/supporter/active/jlf] has joined #scheme 21:23:19 MrFahrenheit [n=RageOfTh@users-33-87.vinet.ba] has joined #scheme 21:24:46 quidnunc [n=user@bas16-montreal02-1242357571.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #scheme 21:37:38 -!- copumpkin [n=copumpki@c-24-63-67-154.hsd1.nh.comcast.net] has quit [] 21:37:58 JoelMcCracken [n=joelmccr@pool-96-236-180-142.pitbpa.east.verizon.net] has joined #scheme 21:58:15 -!- MichaelRaskin [n=MichaelR@195.91.224.225] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 21:58:35 MichaelRaskin [n=MichaelR@195.91.224.225] has joined #scheme 21:59:21 -!- Adamant [n=Adamant@unaffiliated/adamant] has quit [] 22:03:09 charleyb [n=charleyb@c-67-162-157-218.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 22:04:28 davazp [n=user@205.Red-83-46-0.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #scheme 22:06:54 _JFT_ [n=_JFT_@modemcable204.87-177-173.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #scheme 22:07:21 -!- lisppaste [n=lisppast@common-lisp.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 22:07:21 -!- specbot [n=specbot@common-lisp.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 22:09:28 -!- Edico [n=Edico@unaffiliated/edico] has quit ["Ex-Chat"] 22:14:03 copumpkin [n=copumpki@dhcp-212-196.cs.dartmouth.edu] has joined #scheme 22:16:42 lisppaste [n=lisppast@common-lisp.net] has joined #scheme 22:17:26 -!- _JFT_ [n=_JFT_@modemcable204.87-177-173.mc.videotron.ca] has quit [] 22:18:21 minion [n=minion@common-lisp.net] has joined #scheme 22:18:28 specbot [n=specbot@common-lisp.net] has joined #scheme 22:25:08 R reference manual - 3282 pages. SAGE reference manual - 4701 pages. Clearly most schemes are small toys in comparison. 22:27:13 someone should start an effort to pad the scheme manual and spec 22:27:44 -!- quidnunc [n=user@bas16-montreal02-1242357571.dsl.bell.ca] has left #scheme 22:27:49 to make it more enterprise-ready, industrial strength, and most importantly synergistic with the needs of its users 22:28:46 copumpkin, what you said is called "Buzzword compatible" 22:28:57 -!- makmanal1 [n=legato@80.76.201.55] has quit [Client Quit] 22:29:00 makmanalp [n=legato@80.76.201.55] has joined #scheme 22:29:27 copumpkin: you can just cat all the various standards together, RnRS + ERR5RS + srfis + IEEE 22:29:40 SharkBrain: we should interleave them instead! 22:29:42 must EASILY be several thousand pages 22:29:49 it'll look more opaque that way 22:29:56 add to that sicp, htdp and all the rest 22:31:18 Maybe we should allow scheme seven the same space as the SAGE reference manual index. ~250 pages. 22:34:26 In the ideal world Scheme7Small would be definable on 40 pages, and Scheme7Big would be its conservative extension with layered structure.. Say, 40+60+150+250 pages 22:35:21 (With first 60 pages defining all the semantically new primitives, and the rest spent on standardization of different library functions and bindings) 22:38:50 I cant count today. It's ~235 pages for SAGE and ~140 for R. 22:40:07 I was going to ask how 750 + 750 = 3282. 22:43:09 SAGE ref: http://www.sagemath.org/doc-pdf/en/reference.pdf 22:43:32 devslashnull [n=nope@dyn-164.greentreefrog.net.au] has joined #scheme 22:44:26 R reference: http://cran.r-project.org/doc/manuals/fullrefman.pdf 22:44:47 Daemmerung: You do the math! 22:47:24 mejja: Not downloading those R manuals, but they must contain something beyond the mere 1500 pages of the base packages (vols 1 and 2). 22:47:32 -!- Kusanagi [n=Lernaean@unaffiliated/kusanagi] has quit [] 22:54:17 -!- elderK [n=zk@pdpc/supporter/active/elderk] has quit [] 22:55:43 *elly* just did her graph theory homework with 50 lines of scheme and 30 seconds of runtime 23:07:48 Kusanagi [n=Lernaean@unaffiliated/kusanagi] has joined #scheme 23:12:56 brandelune [n=suzume@pl571.nas982.takamatsu.nttpc.ne.jp] has joined #scheme 23:13:04 -!- brandelune [n=suzume@pl571.nas982.takamatsu.nttpc.ne.jp] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 23:14:25 -!- davazp [n=user@205.Red-83-46-0.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 23:19:41 alexsuraci [n=alexsura@pool-71-188-133-67.aubnin.fios.verizon.net] has joined #scheme 23:22:06 -!- LL [n=ll@78-21-35-139.access.telenet.be] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 23:27:16 -!- Mr_Awesome [n=eric@c-98-212-139-181.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 23:34:36 Mr_Awesome [n=eric@c-98-212-139-181.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 23:45:56 -!- JoelMcCracken [n=joelmccr@pool-96-236-180-142.pitbpa.east.verizon.net] has quit ["This computer has gone to sleep"] 23:47:34 -!- synx [i=synx@gateway/gpg-tor/key-0xA71B0C6A] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 23:49:32 JoelMcCracken [n=joelmccr@pool-96-236-180-142.pitbpa.east.verizon.net] has joined #scheme 23:50:12 -!- Checkie [i=21209@unaffiliated/checkie] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 23:53:16 synx [i=synx@gateway/gpg-tor/key-0xA71B0C6A] has joined #scheme 23:54:33 -!- cmatei [n=cmatei@95.76.26.166] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 23:58:34 -!- MichaelRaskin [n=MichaelR@195.91.224.225] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)]