00:12:37 alvatar [n=alvatar@166.22.222.87.dynamic.jazztel.es] has joined #scheme 00:12:43 delightful 00:13:04 a book describing a language, that starts by describing its interpreter 00:13:26 I'm really enjoying SICP 00:16:15 -!- Narrenschiff [n=ritchie@xolotl.plus.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 00:18:34 if you're actually enjoying SICP alvatar, you'll probably fit right in here. 00:19:06 dsmith [n=dsmith@66.178.229.162] has joined #scheme 00:33:30 synx: :) 00:33:52 I felt attraction towards the lisps long time ago... 00:33:57 I just didn't have time 00:34:09 if you're using SICP for target practice, you're probably a redneck 00:34:23 what's a redneck? 00:34:35 too lazy to look for a slang word in internet! 00:34:42 alvatar: someone who works outside, bent over in the field all day. 00:35:05 thus red, neck. 00:35:56 implies a rather stark degree of ignorance, whether willful or simply imposed by lack of free time. 00:36:06 whattf? 00:36:08 :D 00:36:10 lol 00:36:11 alvatar: http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/3474/redneck9472835dg3.jpg 00:36:16 yeah! 00:36:50 so how did you come to that conclusion? :) 00:36:57 hahahah, nice pic 00:37:38 redneck jokes are common. The idea is that someone with a "red neck" would make actions in ignorance, that to someone in the know would be very ironic. 00:37:48 also inbreeding, lol 00:38:59 so, just to understand zbigniew's joke completely (excuse my ignorance, I'm neither american nor professional schemer) 00:39:04 people too poor to travel all that much to find their BFF are likely to keep it "in the family" 00:39:47 scheme is used by either academicists or people with lots of free time? 00:40:04 damn, I feel really stupid asking for explanations of a joke 00:40:08 SICP hasn't been part of USA culture for a long time. Guns, on the other hand, have. Thus using SICP for target practice, because you don't know any other use for it. 00:40:20 ah, man 00:40:26 alvatar: http://www.dribbleglass.com/Jokes/redneck.htm 00:40:27 Oh I find joke explanations fascinating, on the contrary. It ruins the humor of course, but it's still interesting. 00:40:29 "target practice" is shooting? 00:40:33 Some of those can be quite complex. 00:40:42 Yeah practice with a target. Either archery or guns. 00:41:05 But "use ____ for target practice" is a colloquial euphamism for shooting at it. 00:41:17 hahaha :D funny link! 00:41:36 wow! thanks for the explanation! 00:41:40 -!- bytecolor [n=user@166.134.16.226] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 00:41:49 I definitely couldn't have understood it otherwise ;) 00:41:55 Hollywood dictates a lot of this stuff these days. I'm not sure if it's authentic, or just manufactured... 00:42:16 synx: road trip! 00:42:26 Mikaeel_Mohamed [n=Mohamdu@129-97-208-54.uwaterloo.ca] has joined #scheme 00:42:39 zbigniew: I visualize rednecks now perfectly :) 00:43:12 Then my job here is done. 00:43:31 --> You've been on TV more than five times describing the sound of a tornado. 00:43:32 LOL 00:44:02 all of them are enlightening 00:44:11 *elly* oscillates 00:44:32 hehehe 00:46:44 I have a new outfit! 00:46:45 00:47:34 I worry about culture these days. People take stuff like the ploughman's lunch as ancient tradtion when it really is just 1960's cheese propaganda. 00:47:41 And Santa's Coca Cola suit. 00:48:39 I love the phrase 'cheese propaganda' 00:48:52 -!- leppie|work [i=52d2e3c8@gateway/web/freenode/x-woqrkikqdrvyixuv] has quit [verne.freenode.net irc.freenode.net] 00:49:20 elly: https://synx.us.to/noart/comics/satangay.jpg 00:50:12 synx: ...wtf? heh 00:50:26 I JUST WANT TO BE DEBBIE AGAIN 00:50:58 leppie|work [i=52d2e3c8@gateway/web/freenode/x-woqrkikqdrvyixuv] has joined #scheme 00:52:40 I think that is a chick tract :P 00:52:43 it looks like one, anyway 00:53:18 It was a chick tract. 00:53:45 guy who did that made this one first: https://synx.us.to/noart/comics/satandnd.jpg 00:53:59 *elly* -> dinner 00:54:06 -!- sjamaan [n=sjamaan@netbsd/developer/sjamaan] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 00:56:37 -!- sepult [n=user@xdsl-78-35-197-122.netcologne.de] has quit ["ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)"] 00:57:23 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My aim is to state each element of list as single number 10:45:08 how can i do that 10:45:37 (1 2 3 4) --> 1234 10:45:37 for example? 10:45:49 i gave the example above .D 10:46:53 i want to show each element of list single number. For example (list 1 2 3 4)-> 1 is single number,2 is sinlge number 10:47:03 How would do it "by hand"? 10:47:38 You want to display the number? 10:47:47 i am not sure but for example i am taking element of list one by one aand assign to value a integer 10:47:48 Or form a number with the digits? 10:48:10 no the function template list -> number 10:48:11 hellyeah: with srfi-13 something like (string->number (string-concatenate (map ->string '(1 2 3 4)))) 10:48:42 or are you talking about numbers and not digits in the list? 10:49:18 sorry for my english my aim shows each element of list as single number seperately 10:49:33 (list 1 2 3 4) result of function gives 10:49:34 4 10:49:35 3 10:49:35 2 10:49:36 1 10:50:03 what would be the expected output of '(1 2 2.3 3.24) 10:50:33 hmm 10:50:38 rudybot: eval (apply values (reverse (list 1 2 3 4))) 10:50:38 masm: your r5rs sandbox is ready 10:50:38 masm: ; Value: 4 10:50:39 masm: ; Value#2: 3 10:50:40 masm: ; Value#3: 2 10:50:41 masm: ; Value#4: 1 10:50:50 1 , 2 , 2.3, 3.24 10:51:01 double or integer doesnt matter 10:51:47 hellyeah: why not just use display? (for-each (lambda (n) ((display n)(newline))) '(1 2 3 4)) 10:52:00 rudybot: eval (for-each (lambda (n) ((display n)(newline))) '(1 2 3 4)) 10:52:01 C-Keen: your sandbox is ready 10:52:01 C-Keen: error: procedure application: expected procedure, given: #; arguments were: # 10:52:05 aw 10:52:41 C-Keen: What is that '(1 2 3 4)? :) 10:53:06 actually display element of list is easy 10:53:17 masm: (quote (1 2 3 4)) 10:53:18 i want to transform list to number i guess 10:53:26 rudybot: eval (for-each (lambda (n) (display n)(newline)) '(1 2 3 4)) 10:53:26 Jafet: your sandbox is ready 10:53:26 Jafet: ; stdout: "1\n2\n3\n4\n" 10:53:56 thanks for finding the typo Jafet 10:54:01 hellyeah, once you finish guessing, you can then tell us what you actually want to do 10:54:05 i mean when functions results, there is no list, we only have speerate number 10:54:34 hellyeah: you know that the way you wrote it the elements of the list _are_ numbers already 10:56:55 yeah 10:57:11 i can tell you with sentence 10:57:21 but i cannot tell you with function 10:57:40 because i cannot figure out how i can write function 10:57:45 so for the example you gave me (1 2 3 4) => 1234 my first function does what you want 10:58:07 yes exactly 10:58:10 if all the members of the list are digits for the number you need 10:58:50 both 1 and 1.0 digits right 10:58:51 hellyeah: an easier way is to just use display if all you want to do is printing it on the screen 10:58:58 1.0 is not a digit 10:59:06 hmm 10:59:08 but 10:59:17 digit in a decimal number system are 0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9 10:59:37 for example list (1 2.1 3.45 4) it returns 121.33.454 10:59:49 C-Keen, sorry my stupid 11:00:01 i mean number is either double or digit 11:00:25 so you want to concatenate a list and print the result? 11:00:45 may be this way works 11:01:00 btw, string-concentenate doesnt work in my drscheme, 11:01:11 it does if you include srfi-13 11:01:20 however that works in drscheme 11:01:20 ha 11:01:58 i dont have srfi-13 i have to install i guess 11:02:41 rudybot: eval (begin (for-each display '(1 2.1 3.45 4)) (newline)) 11:02:42 C-Keen: ; stdout: "1\n12.13.454\n" 11:02:56 You could use string-ports 11:03:09 hm, why is there a newline between 1 and 2.1? 11:04:16 string-ports 11:04:20 Why is there a preceding 1\n, more like 11:05:19 Jafet: correct! 11:05:37 Jafet: maybe it has been in the buffer from my last evals? 11:05:40 rudybot: eval (begin (for-each display '(1 2.1 3.45 4)) (newline)) 11:05:40 C-Keen: ; stdout: "12.13.454\n" 11:05:44 right 11:05:56 More magic 11:06:23 can I erase my sandbox? or reset it? 11:06:25 -!- _nofear [n=maxwell@189.115.12.187] has quit ["Leaving."] 11:07:29 how ccan i look special index of list 11:07:38 i remember there is a function called ref 11:08:50 rudybot: eval (list-ref (list 1 2 3 4) 2) 11:08:50 C-Keen: ; Value: 3 11:09:32 hellyeah: I suggest you do have a look at r5rs 11:14:45 _nofear [n=maxwell@189.115.12.187] has joined #scheme 11:18:53 mejja [n=user@c-49b6e555.023-82-73746f38.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #scheme 11:31:21 C-Keen: (rudybot doesn't need `begin', you can just enter multiple expressions.) 11:32:21 hellyeah: Before you go off doing something like looking at reference manuals, you would do yourself a big favor if you just make it perfectly clear to yourself what is the problem that you're trying to solve. 11:35:25 -!- nutmegmagi [n=swalters@static-72-91-30-20.tampfl.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 11:36:30 -!- masm [n=masm@bl7-201-127.dsl.telepac.pt] has left #scheme 11:50:17 nutmegmagi [n=swalters@pool-71-101-160-3.tampfl.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #scheme 12:04:28 eli, i try my best i actually know my problem. 12:04:57 eli, but my english is nott very good so i cant be sure i am tellin my problem good enough or not 12:05:17 Edico [n=Edico@unaffiliated/edico] has joined #scheme 12:07:17 hellyeah: English has very little to do here. A clear description of the problem would be the kind of inputs your function should accept, and the kind of outputs it should return for them. 12:08:12 A good way to do this -- and that's useful for asking how to solve it but even more so to solve it yourself -- is to write test cases of what should the output be for some inputs. 12:08:26 Then work your way until you can write code that that satisifies those tests. 12:10:42 thanks eli 12:14:52 -!- ecomba [n=ecomba@82-69-145-22.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk] has quit [] 12:15:11 hmm 12:15:15 okey eli 12:16:32 ecomba [n=ecomba@82-69-145-22.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk] has joined #scheme 12:16:41 -!- ecomba [n=ecomba@82-69-145-22.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 12:34:19 lusory_ [n=bart@bb219-74-244-126.singnet.com.sg] has joined #scheme 12:43:11 -!- MichaelRaskin [n=MichaelR@195.91.224.225] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 12:43:23 MichaelRaskin [n=MichaelR@195.91.224.225] has joined #scheme 12:46:39 luz 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rudybot: eval `(a b `(c ,@'(d e f))) 18:18:45 zbigniew: error: me: standard-module-name-resolver: collection not found: "me" in any of: (#) in: me 18:18:57 fine then 18:20:07 rudybot: eval `(a b `(c ,@'(d e f))) 18:20:07 masm: your r5rs sandbox is ready 18:20:07 masm: ; Value: {a b {quasiquote {c {unquote-splicing {quote {d e f}}}}}} 18:21:44 saint_cypher [n=saint_cy@adsl-99-2-72-93.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net] has joined #scheme 18:22:28 -!- reprore [n=reprore@ntkngw356150.kngw.nt.ftth.ppp.infoweb.ne.jp] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 18:22:48 eno_ [n=eno@70.137.168.223] has joined #scheme 18:22:57 reprore [n=reprore@ntkngw356150.kngw.nt.ftth.ppp.infoweb.ne.jp] has joined #scheme 18:25:43 schoppenhauer_ [n=christop@unaffiliated/schoppenhauer] has joined #scheme 18:26:06 -!- schoppenhauer_ [n=christop@unaffiliated/schoppenhauer] has quit [Client Quit] 18:30:11 -!- Jafet [n=Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet] has quit [Success] 18:33:25 rdd [n=user@c83-250-152-128.bredband.comhem.se] has 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It's not 2010-02-14! 20:49:49 But happy new year nevertheless :) 20:53:38 eclugtesting [n=mona@212.33.202.36] has joined #scheme 21:00:25 jmcphers [n=jmcphers@218.185.108.156] has joined #scheme 21:07:57 -!- Edico [n=Edico@unaffiliated/edico] has quit ["Ex-Chat"] 21:08:23 ski_ [n=md9slj@remote1.student.chalmers.se] has joined #scheme 21:22:50 -!- langmartin [n=user@exeuntcha2.tva.gov] has quit ["ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)"] 21:29:10 huh 21:29:16 didn't new year already happen 21:29:21 zbigniew: Wow a scheme emoticon 21:30:26 r2q2, well, you can't really wish someone a happy new year *before* it happens, can you? 21:30:43 I have done that 21:30:55 I thought new year was on Jan 1st. 21:32:51 Perhaps wingo has not been in the channel since then/ 21:32:52 ? 21:33:41 yea nevermind 21:33:44 happy new year wingo 21:38:14 heh tx 21:41:03 mrsolo [n=mrsolo@adsl-68-126-177-21.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net] has joined #scheme 21:52:14 neogooglian [n=neogoogl@59.92.112.189] has joined #scheme 21:55:28 -!- RageOfThou [n=RageOfTh@users-55-43.vinet.ba] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 21:55:47 RageOfThou [n=RageOfTh@users-55-43.vinet.ba] has joined #scheme 22:03:07 choas [n=lars@p5B0DC167.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #scheme 22:05:35 -!- copumpkin [n=copumpki@dhcp-212-196.cs.dartmouth.edu] has quit [] 22:06:26 copumpkin [n=copumpki@dhcp-212-196.cs.dartmouth.edu] has joined #scheme 22:06:31 -!- copumpkin [n=copumpki@dhcp-212-196.cs.dartmouth.edu] has quit [Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)] 22:12:49 ecloud [n=rutledge@ip72-208-148-56.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #scheme 22:13:01 -!- masm [n=masm@bl7-39-93.dsl.telepac.pt] has quit ["Leaving."] 22:13:46 masm [n=masm@bl7-39-93.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #scheme 22:16:39 Fare [n=Fare@ita4fw1.itasoftware.com] has joined #scheme 22:20:27 RadioApeShot [n=user@ip70-189-39-171.lf.br.cox.net] has joined #scheme 22:21:47 -!- mmc [n=mima@cs27122078.pp.htv.fi] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 22:23:14 -!- samth is now known as samth_away 22:26:03 mmc [n=mima@cs27122078.pp.htv.fi] has joined #scheme 22:26:35 -!- choas [n=lars@p5B0DC167.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ["leaving"] 22:33:01 Anyone using plt scheme having problems with the mzlib/kw library? 22:33:21 I have some old code essentially equivalent to this (lambda/kw (#:key x) (+ x x)) and it no longer compiles 22:33:37 I am trying to port it to version 4 22:33:54 > (lambda/kw (#:key x) (+ x x)) 22:33:54 stdin::219: #%datum: keyword used as an expression in: #:x 22:33:54 22:34:34 RadioApeShot, can't you use the normal lambda, these days, for that? 22:35:48 Apparently 22:35:52 -!- mrsolo [n=mrsolo@adsl-68-126-177-21.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net] has quit [Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)] 22:35:56 That also solves the problem 22:36:21 Fare: Thanks 22:37:30 mrsolo [n=mrsolo@adsl-68-126-177-21.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net] has joined #scheme 22:58:29 bytecolor [n=user@32.157.146.42] has joined #scheme 22:59:49 -!- mmc [n=mima@cs27122078.pp.htv.fi] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 23:01:32 -!- neogooglian [n=neogoogl@59.92.112.189] has quit ["Leaving"] 23:02:00 schmir [n=schmir@p54A93EC1.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #scheme 23:08:10 mmc [n=mima@cs27122078.pp.htv.fi] has joined #scheme 23:08:17 mreggen [n=mreggen@cm-84.215.18.49.getinternet.no] has joined #scheme 23:10:35 -!- eclugtesting [n=mona@212.33.202.36] has left #scheme 23:11:26 -!- mmc [n=mima@cs27122078.pp.htv.fi] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 23:14:55 (inf? +inf) 23:15:28 -!- Fufie [n=innocent@86.80-203-225.nextgentel.com] has quit ["Leaving"] 23:17:10 -!- Narrenschiff [n=ritchie@xolotl.plus.com] has quit [] 23:19:14 -!- wingo [n=wingo@116.Red-81-39-159.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 23:21:09 mmc [n=mima@cs27122078.pp.htv.fi] has joined #scheme 23:22:28 -!- davazp [n=user@95.Red-83-55-182.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 23:23:25 mejja [n=user@c-49b6e555.023-82-73746f38.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #scheme 23:25:53 -!- _nofear [n=_nofear@189.115.0.219] has left #scheme 23:29:26 -!- reprore [n=reprore@ntkngw356150.kngw.nt.ftth.ppp.infoweb.ne.jp] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 23:48:15 -!- bipt [i=bpt@cpe-075-182-092-215.nc.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 23:59:11 copumpkin [n=copumpki@c-24-63-67-154.hsd1.nh.comcast.net] has joined #scheme