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Bad! 03:20:19 what did I do? 03:20:24 YOU KNOW VERY WELL 03:20:34 I just defined a recursive procedure! 03:20:38 rudybot: eval (define-syntax-rule (#%top . x) 'x) 03:20:38 eli: your scheme sandbox is ready 03:20:40 those are widely considered good ideas 03:20:45 *offby1* cringes 03:20:46 rudybot: eval What about this? 03:20:46 eli: ; Value: this? 03:20:51 when eli starts messing ... 03:21:08 offby1: The nice thing now is that you can enter multiple expressions. 03:21:09 *offby1* stares blankly 03:21:27 rudybot: eval 1 2 3 4 03:21:27 eli: ; Value: 4 03:21:29 eli: ...what did you just do? 03:21:52 elly: I just made every unbound identifier evaluate to its own symbol. But that's unrelated. 03:21:52 I think eli was put on this Earth to make my life difficult^Wmiserable^Wchallenging. 03:22:12 "interesting", offby1! 03:22:14 yeah 03:22:34 rudybot: eval (list elly offby1 klutometis) 03:22:34 eli: ; Value: (elly offby1 klutometis) 03:22:46 how did I get in this list? 03:22:48 biz arre. 03:22:51 I don't want to be in a list! 03:22:58 rudybot: eval #(elly eli) 03:22:59 rudybot: eval (define elly 'somebody) 03:23:02 *offby1: error: with-limit: out of time 03:23:02 rudybot: eval (list elly offby1 klutometis) 03:23:03 eli: ; Value: (somebody offby1 klutometis) 03:23:09 ?! 03:23:23 rudybot: eval #(elly eli) 03:23:24 *offby1: your scheme sandbox is ready 03:23:24 *offby1: ; Value: #(elly eli) 03:23:27 *whew* 03:23:58 rudybot: eval (remove 'elly '(elly offby1 klutometis)) 03:23:59 elly: your sandbox is ready 03:23:59 elly: ; Value: (offby1 klutometis) 03:24:03 *elly* makes her escape! 03:24:29 elly: The trick is to do that with no kwotes. 03:24:50 that's what your thing is for, correct? 03:24:55 Yes. 03:24:59 *offby1* is under attack by fat neighborcat 03:26:39 rudybot: eval (define list ( args (filter ( (i) (not (eq? i 'synx))) args))) 03:26:39 synx: your scheme/base sandbox is ready 03:26:40 my dog just wandered into my room, picked up a hairtie, and left 03:26:49 I'm a little bit worried about what she's doing with them 03:26:59 rudybot: eval (list 'offby1 'elly 'eli 'synx) 03:26:59 synx: ; Value: (offby1 elly eli) 03:27:05 she's got a whole collection of them buried outside 03:27:35 http://img160.yfrog.com/i/rsqs.jpg/ if you don't believe me! 03:28:03 That doesn't look like buried hair ties. 03:28:04 that, however, is not by dog 03:28:31 nice color balance, there :-| 03:28:32 by dog, you're right! 03:28:33 by dog, she's right! 03:28:35 No timestamp, either 03:28:38 synx: jinx! 03:28:51 no fair I'm on tor 03:28:52 klutometis, synx: that was particularly weird. 03:29:12 hmm ... maybe synx and klutometis are the same person ... 03:29:14 every dog has his day, offby1 03:29:37 -!- RageOfThou [n=RageOfTh@users-55-205.vinet.ba] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 03:29:46 slilo` [n=user@host-92-124-188-164.pppoe.omsknet.ru] has joined #scheme 03:29:50 offby1: it wouldn't be the first time. 03:29:51 offby1: notice the subtle mutation, though, between second and third persion 03:30:11 klutometis: I did, but that just made the mystery more intriguing. 03:31:07 -!- slilo [n=user@host-95-189-130-209.pppoe.omsknet.ru] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 03:34:55 -!- reprore [n=reprore@ntkngw356150.kngw.nt.ftth.ppp.infoweb.ne.jp] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 03:39:04 felipe [n=felipe@my.nada.kth.se] has joined #scheme 03:41:10 kniu [n=kniu@pool-71-105-70-131.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #scheme 03:41:28 annodomini [n=lambda@wikipedia/lambda] has joined #scheme 03:43:27 -!- luz [n=davids@189.122.90.116] has quit ["Client exiting"] 03:50:11 nutmegmagi [n=swalters@65.222.72.3] has joined #scheme 03:56:32 I'm klutometis from an alternate parallel universe. 03:57:49 samth_ [n=samth@c-65-96-168-99.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 04:09:34 that's kind of worrying. 04:10:02 It shouldn't be. So are you. 04:10:23 tjaway [n=timj@e176205107.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #scheme 04:10:33 -!- tjafk [n=timj@e176211009.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 04:10:47 hm. 04:10:51 you make a compelling argument 04:14:39 WE ARE ALL KLUTOMETIS 04:14:58 with the right deltas applied, yes! 04:15:07 who's going to start the sparticus joke? 04:15:11 gooble gobble 04:15:20 TONIGHT, WE DINE IN SCHENECTADY 04:15:51 maybe you do 04:15:53 I already ate 04:22:20 -!- nutmegmagi [n=swalters@65.222.72.3] has left #scheme 04:30:34 meric_ [n=Eric@203-206-3-99.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #scheme 04:33:26 nutmegmagi [n=swalters@65.222.72.2] has joined #scheme 04:38:50 Mikaeel_Mohamed [n=Mohamdu@129-97-208-169.uwaterloo.ca] has joined #scheme 04:41:15 Modius [n=Modius@cpe-70-123-130-159.austin.res.rr.com] has joined #scheme 04:46:23 hmm, too bad gnu diff doesn't have a -x option: diff -Naur -x 1923877 synx klutometis 04:46:43 that would be difficult to implement, probably 04:46:44 even in C 04:47:58 yeah, probably need QFC, QPL, QML or one of the other quantum languages 04:48:51 -!- meric [n=Eric@124-171-57-132.dyn.iinet.net.au] has quit [Read error: 101 (Network is unreachable)] 04:48:52 -!- meric_ is now known as meric 04:49:16 hmm, looks like philip maymin came up with lambda-q calculus (quantum extensions to church/kleene) that can do NP-complete problems, too 04:50:23 woah, wtf: there's a scheme implementation, qlambda: http://www.het.brown.edu/people/andre/qlambda 05:02:56 -!- jeapostrophe [n=jay@69.169.141.110.provo.static.broadweavenetworks.net] has quit [] 05:09:43 -!- Nshag [n=shag@lns-bzn-43-82-249-160-2.adsl.proxad.net] has quit ["Quitte"] 05:10:59 Checkie [i=717@unaffiliated/checkie] has joined #scheme 05:44:44 klutometis: for some reason I thought that was a SRFI, but I probably just stumbled on it from his other SRFI's :) 05:47:29 -!- Mikaeel_Mohamed [n=Mohamdu@129-97-208-169.uwaterloo.ca] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 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quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 13:45:02 dsmith [n=dsmith@cpe-173-88-196-177.neo.res.rr.com] has joined #scheme 13:49:19 -!- sad0ur [n=sad0ur@psi.cz] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 13:51:15 foof [n=user@173-161-171-177-Philadelphia.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has joined #scheme 13:54:13 Good morning, East Coast! 13:55:08 sad0ur [n=sad0ur@psi.cz] has joined #scheme 13:55:18 foof: Good morning to you too. :-D 13:56:03 eli: In reference to your e^(i * pi), may I refer you to: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1053 :-P 13:56:25 -!- mmc [n=mima@ip565374a2.direct-adsl.nl] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 13:56:46 annodomini [n=lambda@64.30.3.122] has joined #scheme 13:57:05 Especially my post to that question where I try it out against umpteen language implementations. :-P 13:58:15 nutmegmagi [n=swalters@pool-71-101-160-3.tampfl.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #scheme 13:58:23 samth_ [n=samth@c-65-96-168-99.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 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(exact (angle -1))))) 16:07:12 leppie: your sandbox is ready 16:07:12 leppie: error: reference to undefined identifier: exact 16:07:24 rudybot: eval (+ 1 (exp (make-rectangular 0 (inexact->exact (angle -1))))) 16:07:24 leppie: ; Value: 0.0+1.2246063538223773e-16i 16:09:17 ah so nice to see my math matches perfectly with PLT's, for a long time I had it wrong, due to bad influence! 16:10:17 rudybot: eval (add1 (exp (* +i 3.1415926535897931))) 16:10:18 leppie: ; Value: 0.0+1.2246063538223773e-16i 16:10:37 rudybot: eval (add1 (exp (* +i 3.141592653589793))) 16:10:37 leppie: ; Value: 0.0+1.2246063538223773e-16i 16:10:49 -!- synx [i=synx@gateway/gpg-tor/key-0xA71B0C6A] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 16:10:54 eli: your inexact value of pi was a bit off :p 16:11:37 -!- arquebus [n=quassel@201.139.156.133.cable.dyn.cableonline.com.mx] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 16:12:21 -!- annodomini [n=lambda@wikipedia/lambda] has quit [] 16:13:12 synx 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yes, cheaper computing equipment is a huge plus), but I miss home a lot. 16:28:06 :-P 16:28:40 BTW, I posted a new answer to http://stackoverflow.com/questions/161666 (the sum of two largest squares), since you mentioned something about my original answer doing all the unnecessary calculations. :-P 16:28:58 The new answer...does not do any unnecessary squaring. :-P 16:30:08 was that before or after the other morning? I saw my name mentioned, and looked at your post, then mine, and I could hardly understand mine :p 16:30:41 Well, it was around the time of the discussion with synx, so if you've already checked out the thread as of then, then there's nothing new. :_P 16:30:44 :-P 16:31:09 below the HR? 16:31:13 is new? 16:32:28 -!- hkBst [n=hkBst@gentoo/developer/hkbst] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 16:33:57 i still can follow my own code! ;P 16:34:02 cant I mea 16:34:03 n 16:34:06 -!- Jafet [n=Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 16:34:49 *lol* Yes, the new stuff is below the HR. 16:34:54 sctb [n=sctb@S0106001a704b7fbe.cg.shawcable.net] has joined #scheme 16:34:55 Especially the one-liner. :-P 16:35:06 sstrickl [n=sstrickl@nomad.ccs.neu.edu] has joined #scheme 16:35:08 Well, synx seems to like your code, so they've been able to follow it I guess. :-P 16:35:21 hmm, I see :) will teach me to comment, it is 2 examples... 16:35:28 irc2samus [n=samus@static-200-71-6-99.techtel.com.uy] has joined #scheme 16:35:37 *lol* 16:36:41 your code still does not scale ;P 16:36:52 Doesn't it? Why, because of the sorting? :-P 16:37:10 no, the last one would 16:37:24 but it would involve a cheap (length args) 16:37:43 and a scary map! 16:38:02 All those ! functions can be replaced with non-! versions and still work correctly. 16:38:07 and take! and sort! 16:38:11 So it'd be less scary that way. :-P 16:38:22 but I would never apply that directly on a parameter 16:38:42 rather do (let ((args (map values args))) .. ) 16:38:50 hkBst [n=hkBst@gentoo/developer/hkbst] has joined #scheme 16:38:55 Riastradh clarified to me that the argument list is always freshly-created. 16:39:12 ahhh, that is true! 16:39:13 So, there is definitely no side-effects to the caller or anything else. 16:39:30 but it that always the case, even when using apply? 16:39:47 Yes, again according to Riastradh. 16:39:52 i know IronScheme probably (99% sure) creates a fresh list 16:40:28 it needs a transformation to an array 16:40:33 *nods* 16:40:40 makes sense 16:40:48 clever :p 16:40:53 Hehehehe. 16:41:03 *leppie* points to cky's points :) 16:41:16 *lol* 16:42:02 man, you have a lot of silvers :p 16:42:28 :-P 16:42:45 *leppie* suspects cky is a spoonfeeder :) 16:42:47 Yeah, they just stick to me...I didn't go out of my way to collect them. 16:42:48 :-P 16:42:55 Spoonfeeder? Why's that? 16:43:18 it's just normally the longest correct answer 'wins' 16:43:49 so you get people explaining the history of the universe, where my 3 words meaning the same gets nothing :( 16:44:00 im a man of few words :) 16:44:07 My answers are usually brief too. :-P 16:44:21 I don't cut-and-paste, and I always write fresh answers, so, I have to make my time count. :-P 16:44:44 mine are beyond brief, and normally requires the reader to follow the suggestion and take it from there 16:45:02 i want them to try understand the problem, not just find a solution 16:45:04 Sounds like a mystery/detective novel. :-P 16:45:37 that's hopw I thought myself, and still do today 16:45:46 Overdrive [n=user@81.202.74.13.dyn.user.ono.com] has joined #scheme 16:46:01 Nice, nice. :-P 16:50:28 annodomini [n=lambda@130.189.179.215] has joined #scheme 16:53:52 -!- Adrinael [n=adrinael@barrel.rolli.org] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 17:03:51 jimrees [n=jimrees@ita4fw1.itasoftware.com] has joined #scheme 17:05:04 nicdev [n=user@umass-958-247.wireless.umass.edu] has joined #scheme 17:05:47 -!- r2q2 [n=user@c-24-7-212-60.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 17:13:12 -!- bombshelter13b [n=bombshel@76-10-149-209.dsl.teksavvy.com] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 17:17:34 visof [n=visof@41.238.233.175] has joined #scheme 17:19:44 -!- RageOfThou [n=RageOfTh@users-33-13.vinet.ba] has quit [Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)] 17:19:57 RageOfThou [n=RageOfTh@users-33-13.vinet.ba] has joined #scheme 17:29:34 -!- annodomini [n=lambda@wikipedia/lambda] has quit [] 17:30:47 -!- sctb [n=sctb@S0106001a704b7fbe.cg.shawcable.net] has quit ["rcirc on GNU Emacs 23.1.90.1"] 17:39:51 Fufie [n=innocent@86.80-203-225.nextgentel.com] has joined #scheme 17:43:02 cky, leppie: Yes, bad case of copy/paste; in any case, the point is that comparing fp numbers at that level is bogus. 18:00:18 -!- marcoecc [i=me@gateway/gpg-tor/key-0x9C9AAE7F] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 18:02:28 Belaf [n=campedel@net-93-144-17-71.t2.dsl.vodafone.it] has joined #scheme 18:02:40 personally i would have gone for the chubaka defense, but that would be acceptable too :) 18:08:38 -!- nicdev [n=user@umass-958-247.wireless.umass.edu] has left #scheme 18:08:46 -!- schmir [n=schmir@mail.brainbot.com] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 18:09:01 -!- JKGpp [n=juergen@dslb-088-067-190-005.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [] 18:10:59 npe [n=npe@94-224-251-223.access.telenet.be] has joined #scheme 18:28:19 theclaw [n=theclaw@unaffiliated/theclaw] has joined #scheme 18:30:12 Hi, I'd like to understand CPS and don't quite understand the syntax in the examples in http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Continuation-passing_style. (I don't know scheme); the lambda expression is seems to be the third argument to "*", how does this work? 18:30:29 -is 18:34:06 see the comment about `cps*' below 18:35:10 thakns 18:35:13 *thanks :) 18:37:24 saint_cypher [n=saint_cy@adsl-99-2-72-93.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net] has joined #scheme 18:38:25 <_nofear> theclaw: I'd recommend you to take a look at this book too, as it discuss continuations and CPS in Scheme: http://www.scheme.com/tspl4/ 18:40:17 _nofear: thanks for the hint 18:43:51 jlongster [n=user@c-68-59-187-95.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 18:50:11 bunz [n=bunz@unaffiliated/bunz] has joined #scheme 18:50:40 novelli [n=novelli@151.60.88.224] has joined #scheme 18:53:13 copumpkin_ [n=copumpki@94.162.195.102] has joined #scheme 19:01:58 -!- _nofear [n=maxwell@201.22.75.100.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br] has quit ["Leaving."] 19:03:03 -!- alexsuraci [n=alex@pool-71-188-133-67.aubnin.fios.verizon.net] has quit ["Lost terminal"] 19:03:12 alexsuraci 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