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Any fix possible? 4.2.2.6 was made to work but got wiped due to a frickin' virus on my box (hopefully all gone). 02:48:20 -!- kniu [n=kniu@CMU-311358.WV.CC.CMU.EDU] has quit [Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)] 02:53:49 samth [n=samth@c-76-24-220-74.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 02:57:47 -!- Guest37527 [n=drwho@c-98-225-211-78.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has quit [Client Quit] 02:58:42 saccade_ [n=saccade@209-6-54-113.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com] has joined #scheme 03:02:16 -!- underspecified [n=eric@softbank220043052007.bbtec.net] has quit [] 03:02:26 -!- bgs100 [n=ian@unaffiliated/bgs100] has quit ["Leaving"] 03:03:29 flonklebonkle [n=nobody@Wa5b6.w.pppool.de] has joined #scheme 03:03:43 Summermute: The nightly build had some problems due to work on threads, but you can use the release candidate at http://pre.plt-scheme.org/release/. 03:04:55 -!- blackened` [n=blackene@ip-89-102-22-70.karneval.cz] has quit [] 03:06:12 -!- synx [i=synx@gateway/gpg-tor/key-0xA71B0C6A] 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The last dl earlier today looked like it had the exact same error messages as the problematic nightly build yesterday (or the day before) 05:56:31 Is there some basic makefile (or whatever is hip today, ant?) problem? 05:56:55 Yes, because it happened in the same way -- version change + build error. 05:57:41 No makefile problem -- like I said, there is work done on getting threads in, which involves a lot of C-level hacking. 05:58:06 It's too bad. I do some work in emacs and the directory num will keep changing, requiring a .emacs alteration and emacs restart (which as you know, can sometimes be like an OS reboot). 05:58:36 I don't understand why you need to restart emacs. 05:58:45 I'd love to have some SVN set, use my primtive but simple Turtle SVN (basically only right click and then "Update") and have the new stuff work every night. 05:58:50 A man can dream :-) 05:59:28 I still have no idea how svn got in here. 05:59:36 *offby1* neither 05:59:55 I'm dealing with a *lot* of different PLT versions, and my Emacs(es) are restarted roughly whenever the machine starts. 06:00:05 Oh, it's just because Quack (mzscheme sensitive emacs <-> interface) needs either (1) full pathname or (2) (haven't tried) alteration of the path for mzscheme, but in windoze, I'd have to restart emacs for that ENV variable to "take" anyway. 06:00:07 (That is, about once or twice per year.) 06:00:30 Emacs has a `setenv' function. 06:00:38 Aha! 06:00:46 *offby1* clears throat 06:01:15 *eli* throws a bottle of water towards offby1 06:01:22 *gulp* 06:01:32 *offby1* talks about mining 06:01:50 I deserve a break because I had a long hiatus as CEO of a consulting company with over 125 clients (!) over the years, so I'm probably not 100% hip to any of the tools I generally use :-( 06:02:05 ooh, a suit! Mock the suit. 06:02:08 *offby1* mocks the suit 06:02:37 don't be mean, offby1 06:02:52 *Elly* interviews with apple tomorrow! 06:02:52 He did say that he's an ex-suit... 06:03:10 Yeah, I tried to be as cool as possible though in that late '90's early 2000's "San Fran" style way. Our coolest offices even had glass and birch panelling :-) 06:03:32 mmc [n=mima@cs27122078.pp.htv.fi] has joined #scheme 06:03:46 *eli* comes from the land of no-suits 06:03:56 *offby1* shields his eyes 06:04:21 Elly: I think they'll make you use Objective-C. 06:04:39 The "hip" office I worked in when I worked at some startup was a really old place, with a flea problem in a nearby building. 06:04:44 but good luck, and if you get hired, think of us little people from time to time 06:04:57 Generally our firm was hired because we weren't suits. We were in DC, and tried to hire all the cool, mostly young, very educated geek folks who had to move to DC for one reason or another (like following their women :-) 06:05:21 *all* of them?? 06:05:26 So we were paid premium bucks for bring "industry authenticity" to the client "suits'" projects. 06:05:50 offby1: I don't think so 06:05:56 offby1: they want me to write iPhone firmware 06:06:58 Elly: actually, seriously: I was under the impression that iPhone stuff used Objective-C, too 06:06:59 doesn't it? 06:07:01 Nah, but we had some really cool people. Literally our clients would regularly decide to cohabitate with us in our offices (we had lots of extra space). One "techy wannabe" called us "the Gertrude Stein's Salon of Technology." Whichi is kinda cool high praise (I'm originally educated in philosophy) 06:07:18 offby1: not for the hardware drivers, I think 06:07:38 ah 06:08:04 *offby1* curses at his Android phone 06:08:08 Would this be for some new iphone models I presume? 06:08:14 no idea 06:08:16 they did not say 06:08:17 _I_ should have bought an iPhone, and I'm not an Apple fanboy by any stretch :-| 06:08:32 Cool project (by my standards) in any case. 06:08:36 I'm not exactly an apple fangirl either :P 06:09:17 My g'friend loves her iphone. 06:09:47 I'm not switching from Verizon, so I'm waiting for decent reviews of the Android (the real one) 06:10:58 It's funny, back to scheme, the first software I managed to install on my brand new palm pilot back in '97 or earlier was a cool little scheme interpreter. 06:11:36 I was convinced that we'd stick phone tech in Palms and that would be the ruling "thumper" (anyone else use that term in those days) technology. 06:11:43 You mean Lispme? 06:12:18 So handspring's "slot" was "the great white hope" for a "phone plugin" - but was not meant to be. Still have a palm and a handspring hanging around gathering dust. 06:12:37 Yeah!!!! I think it was called Lispme! I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure! 06:12:37 I have a handspring somewhere 06:12:42 pavelludiq [n=quassel@83.222.175.184] has joined #scheme 06:12:53 IIRC, lispme is Daemmerung's thing. 06:13:00 rudybot_: seen Daemmerung 06:13:01 eli: Daemmerung was seen in/on #scheme one week ago, saying "Two years ago (or was it three?) I put in a request for the Elsevier volume containing the classic Friedman/Felleisen "Control operators, the SECD-machine, and the lambda-calculus" paper. Tonight I finally landed that rare fish. Not entire sure that I /care/ any more, but maybe I'll care again once I get to read it.", and then Daemmerung was seen quitting in/on 216.231.59.183 one we 06:13:02 I got one when I was 9, I think 06:13:21 rudybot_: fail 06:13:21 Elly: eh? Try "rudybot_: help". 06:13:21 I actually think the Palm interface is brilliant. I don't really get why the company seemed to implode. 06:13:37 Summermute: eaten by smartphones 06:13:40 Summermute: I think that interpreter was written by one of the cooler denizens of this channel .. daemmerung, I think 06:13:41 *everyone* I knew had a pilot I'm pretty sure. 06:13:44 rudybot_: You have a bug. 06:13:44 eli: eh? Try "rudybot_: help". 06:13:45 d'oh 06:13:50 *offby1* is always five lines behind 06:13:55 rudybot_: ghost rudybot 06:13:59 rudybot_: nick rudybot 06:14:00 that's awesome! happy to be in such fine company. 06:14:01 -!- rudybot_ is now known as rudybot 06:14:24 offby1: Note how he got cut off... 06:14:43 Elly, long downloaded - going to try an uninstall/install. Back in a minute. 06:14:48 -!- ASau [n=user@83.69.227.32] has quit ["off"] 06:15:18 eli: well, there's a limit to IRC message lengths. 512 characters or thereabouts 06:15:18 ? 06:15:44 I thought that the output thing always took care of that. 06:17:37 No way to take care of it automatically, given that the text that I want to emit -- someone's last two messages -- may well exceed the threshold 06:18:42 you could shorten them 06:19:09 wastrel [n=wastrel@nylug/member/wastrel] has joined #scheme 06:19:29 rudybot: eval (string->symbol "x\ny") 06:19:30 eli: your scheme sandbox is ready 06:19:30 eli: ; Value: |x y| 06:19:57 Summermute66 [n=Summermu@98.204.67.114] has joined #scheme 06:20:09 Elly: I -am- shortening them. But eli doesn't like _how_ I'm doing it. 06:20:28 indeed :P 06:22:08 offby1: `seen' calls `reply', which calls `pm', which calls `out', which is where it's shortened. 06:22:24 sure 06:22:27 So it's `*max-output-line*' that needs to be smaller. 06:22:48 Hey, is someone else using the Summermute nickname, I though that was only my clever idea :-) 06:22:49 how would smallifying *max-output-line* help? 06:22:59 The thing that made me think that it's a bug is the lack of " ..." in the end -- and I remember seeing that. 06:23:05 ah 06:23:14 I don't think I add ellipses 06:23:18 although I s'pose I otta 06:23:26 So perhaps I did. 06:23:40 as you may have inferred, I've kinda lost the enthusiasm for hacking on rudybot 06:23:49 my job takes all my hacking energy 06:24:03 Elly, Installed and Dr Scheme came right up. Can you remind me of one of the magic typed-scheme vector one liners I might try to see if all is kosher? 06:24:08 -!- kniu [n=kniu@HOHOHO.RES.CMU.EDU] has quit ["Leaving"] 06:24:14 eli, I meant 06:24:17 oh 06:24:23 yes, eli and I are different :P 06:24:36 I wish my tab key was DWIM :-) 06:25:02 Summermute66: No, I don't remember. Look for Sam's message about it. 06:25:13 offby1: Well, you could use top-eval with (set! *max-output-line* 400) 06:25:22 but that won't work, since it's defined as a constant. 06:25:29 OK, yes I think I have my last mail exchange with sam archived 06:25:34 (I just tried it with the copy I'm running.) 06:26:03 just curious, what line length are you folks worrying about? 06:26:57 IRC limits, and bots breaking them. 06:29:03 ah 06:29:44 I'm happy to report that the following produced #(2): "#lang typed-scheme (require scheme/vector) (vector-copy #(1 2 3) 1 2)" 06:31:32 tomorrow I'll try to "port" my vector utilities (kinda like some of CL's sequence funs, sometimes combined) to the typed-scheme vectors and see if the new stuff can surive a real workout. 06:33:59 BTW - back to schemely things. I tend to like to use vectors for just about anything I don't "need" a list for. lower memory overhead, fast random access, constant time length computation. Of course Lists do have certain advantages - sharing cdrs, "functionally" building them, etc. 06:36:16 I'm ashamed to admit the glee with which I discovered ML's "enumerate" as a means to build vectors "functionally", i.e., without explicity allocation and then explicity element assign 06:37:39 -!- Summermute [n=Summermu@98.204.67.114] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 06:37:40 -!- Summermute66 is now known as Summermute 06:38:21 Of course, PLT has "build-vector". In fact it was "wrapping my own enumerate around build vector that blew up the vector functionality for typed-scheme. 06:41:08 Oh well, maybe if I chit chat just a little everyday about typed-scheme, others will discover its wonders :-) Ciao for now. 06:41:18 enjoy 06:43:15 -!- Summermute [n=Summermu@98.204.67.114] has quit [" HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- The professional IRC Client :D"] 06:55:02 clog_ [n=nef@bespin.org] has joined #scheme 07:07:26 -!- mmc [n=mima@cs27122078.pp.htv.fi] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 07:09:52 -!- clog [n=nef@bespin.org] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 07:09:53 -!- clog_ is now known as clog 07:13:26 -!- Fufie [n=innocent@86.80-203-225.nextgentel.com] has quit ["Leaving"] 07:20:48 ASau [n=user@host121-231-msk.microtest.ru] has joined #scheme 07:33:05 mmc [n=mima@esprx01x.nokia.com] has joined #scheme 07:37:34 -!- clog [n=nef@bespin.org] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 07:40:56 -!- jonrafkind 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It's the only way. 16:41:04 (You'll also need a ten-foot pole to operate it.) 16:42:37 Nshag [i=user@lns-bzn-43-82-249-132-213.adsl.proxad.net] has joined #scheme 16:44:35 -!- mabes [n=mabes@12.236.109.2] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 16:47:20 mabes [n=mabes@12.236.109.2] has joined #scheme 16:47:38 -!- reprore_ [n=reprore@ntkngw598092.kngw.nt.ftth.ppp.infoweb.ne.jp] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 16:48:05 -!- mabes [n=mabes@12.236.109.2] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 16:48:38 mabes [n=mabes@12.236.109.2] has joined #scheme 16:48:56 reprore [n=reprore@ntkngw598092.kngw.nt.ftth.ppp.infoweb.ne.jp] has joined #scheme 16:50:16 -!- charleyb [n=charleyb@12.236.109.84] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 16:54:04 -!- ASau [n=user@host121-231-msk.microtest.ru] has quit ["off"] 16:55:08 mabes_ [n=mabes@12.236.109.2] has joined #scheme 16:55:24 -!- mabes [n=mabes@12.236.109.2] has quit [Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)] 17:07:09 Riastradh: like the famous purdue experiment? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TBLr_XrooLs 17:11:57 -!- Guest7131 [i=62f7735e@gateway/web/freenode/x-wwfucigvunyakxkh] has quit ["Page closed"] 17:12:01 proq [n=user@unaffiliated/proqesi] has joined #scheme 17:15:54 jar286 [n=jar@30-16-246.dynamic.csail.mit.edu] has joined #scheme 17:16:31 mabes [n=mabes@12.236.109.2] has joined #scheme 17:16:53 -!- mabes_ [n=mabes@12.236.109.2] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 17:18:29 jimrees, what are you doing here? 17:18:38 robrose [n=rob@host176-255-dynamic.48-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #scheme 17:20:05 jlongster [n=user@75-148-111-133-Chattanooga.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has joined #scheme 17:22:15 since discovering scheme, i've had little to no interest in mastering haskell, erlang, scala, clojure. 17:22:18 should i feel guilty? 17:22:41 No. 17:23:29 hezy_ [n=hezy@62.56.254.232] has joined #scheme 17:23:35 klutometis, you're looking for a biased answer, I assume. 17:25:35 klutometis: if you asked in one of those languages' channels you might get more interesting answers 17:26:24 -!- a-s [n=user@nat-240.ro.66.com] has quit [Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)] 17:28:15 *sladegen* labels klutometis troll just in case. 17:29:31 -!- bzzbzz [n=franco@207.236.146.245] has quit ["Lost terminal"] 17:30:26 is possible to write programs in scheme using imperative-style instead of functional-style? 17:30:27 sladegen: oh, hey, man; we've known each other for years 17:30:47 tell you what, i'll make the same inquiry in the respective channels and summarize the results 17:31:10 yes 17:32:09 klutometis: you'll feel safer knowing that they don't know that i know that you know that i called you a troll already. 17:32:13 how can i do it more similar to Pascal? 17:32:57 Pascal? that's too old for me. i had the luck of being forced to learn C in school. 17:33:48 elanonimo: just use set! everywhare and only global variables. 17:35:00 flippo: or at least corroboration; otherwise, i might have to consider the alternative to indolence 17:35:24 jar286 - I'm the other Jim Rees, who isn't your brother. ;-) 17:39:17 -!- copumpkin is now known as pumpkin 17:40:07 So you must be the evil twin cousin of the two, then, jimrees! 17:40:47 -!- mabes [n=mabes@12.236.109.2] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 17:40:51 I'm another programmer who went to MIT. Who would'a thunk it? 17:42:37 -!- pumpkin is now known as copumpkin 17:46:27 wow. 17:48:05 jimrees, hi! 17:49:13 i've discovered a genre of web pages "I'm not any of these John Smiths" 17:49:13 Hello, Reeses! 17:49:26 I should check to see if you have one, or if my brother does... 17:49:44 norman hardy has a nice one, as does dave shields 17:51:01 I don't have one, but I imagine with the appropriate (or perhaps inappropriate) sense of humour, I could make one in reference to the, ah, large-breasted porn star. 17:54:50 -!- reprore [n=reprore@ntkngw598092.kngw.nt.ftth.ppp.infoweb.ne.jp] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 17:57:29 a-s [n=user@nat-240.ro.66.com] has joined #scheme 18:04:54 masm [n=masm@bl9-113-69.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #scheme 18:05:15 mabes [n=mabes@12.236.109.2] has joined #scheme 18:05:29 -!- a-s [n=user@nat-240.ro.66.com] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 18:13:44 mejja [n=user@c-49b6e555.023-82-73746f38.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #scheme 18:14:48 Riastradh: "bathukolpian," i believe, is the appropriate epithet 18:17:31 charleyb [n=charleyb@12.236.109.84] has joined #scheme 18:18:02 mabes_ [n=mabes@12.236.109.2] has joined #scheme 18:24:26 -!- pavelludiq_ [n=quassel@83.222.175.184] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 18:24:36 -!- mabes_ [n=mabes@12.236.109.2] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 18:26:03 -!- charleyb [n=charleyb@12.236.109.84] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 18:37:27 -!- mabes [n=mabes@12.236.109.2] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 18:44:03 jonrafkind [n=jon@crystalis.cs.utah.edu] has joined #scheme 18:46:07 ASau [n=user@83.69.227.32] has joined #scheme 18:51:46 a-s [n=user@nat-240.ro.66.com] has joined #scheme 18:53:04 jgracin [n=jgracin@vipnet88-89.mobile.carnet.hr] has joined #scheme 18:58:05 kilimanjaro [n=kilimanj@cpe-173-172-99-25.austin.res.rr.com] has joined #scheme 18:58:30 -!- jonrafkind [n=jon@crystalis.cs.utah.edu] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 18:59:31 jonrafkind [n=jon@crystalis.cs.utah.edu] has joined #scheme 19:00:30 mrsolo [n=mrsolo@nat/yahoo/x-jpatwrtpklatpiaj] has joined #scheme 19:04:55 geckosenator [n=sean@69.226.133.43] has joined #scheme 19:11:29 jewel [n=jewel@dsl-242-189-70.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #scheme 19:20:09 anyone ever read from a gps in scheme? 19:20:17 -!- jgracin [n=jgracin@vipnet88-89.mobile.carnet.hr] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 19:20:24 I want to read from a gps then send bytes to a serial port to control the sheets on my boat to optimize speed over ground 19:20:57 No, but it can't be hard. Most GPS units just spit out NMEA data on a regular interval on a UART or USB-emulated UART. 19:21:15 well there is gpsd 19:21:24 which reads from the gps alreaddy and works with navigation software 19:21:32 and acts as a server over tcp 19:21:46 and libgpsd which makes it easy to get gps information from a c programm 19:22:10 basically wraps all the socket stuff 19:22:24 charleyb [n=charleyb@12.236.109.84] has joined #scheme 19:22:58 -!- charleyb [n=charleyb@12.236.109.84] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 19:23:14 charleyb [n=charleyb@12.236.109.84] has joined #scheme 19:23:19 You shouldn't need any of that. Just find the TTY and read data. NMEA formatting is easy to parse. 19:23:43 eventually need to spit out NMEA data (of fake wind direction data) to the boats autopilot to control steering 19:23:54 -!- charleyb [n=charleyb@12.236.109.84] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 19:24:22 chandler: wont it confuse the server then? 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that don't need any program, only itself 21:43:47 like C/C++ programs 21:46:09 -!- ToposTartare [n=pumpkin@dhcp-212-204.cs.dartmouth.edu] has left #scheme 21:46:13 copumpkin [n=pumpkin@dhcp-212-204.cs.dartmouth.edu] has joined #scheme 21:46:30 ubuntu-nathan: Yes. See http://docs.plt-scheme.org/mzc/sa.html . 21:47:26 thanks chandler 21:48:07 bgs100 [n=ian@unaffiliated/bgs100] has joined #scheme 21:49:20 m0nkfish [n=am@78-86-153-252.zone2.bethere.co.uk] has joined #scheme 21:51:19 Fufie [n=innocent@86.80-203-225.nextgentel.com] has joined #scheme 21:52:09 -!- m0nkfish [n=am@78-86-153-252.zone2.bethere.co.uk] has left #scheme 21:56:27 -!- schmir` [n=schmir@p54A907AB.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 22:00:06 offby1` [n=user@q-static-138-125.avvanta.com] has joined #scheme 22:01:03 rudybot_ [n=luser@q-static-138-125.avvanta.com] has joined #scheme 22:05:01 pavelludiq [n=quassel@83.222.175.184] has joined #scheme 22:06:00 -!- offby1 [n=user@pdpc/supporter/monthlybyte/offby1] has quit [Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)] 22:06:20 -!- masm [n=masm@bl9-113-69.dsl.telepac.pt] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 22:08:52 masm [n=masm@bl7-195-155.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #scheme 22:14:27 -!- rudybot [n=luser@q-static-138-125.avvanta.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 22:21:36 -!- Paraselene__ [n=None@79-68-173-7.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has quit [Connection timed out] 22:22:26 Dr_Metal [n=yg530@pc134s.cs.york.ac.uk] has joined #scheme 22:23:03 -!- robrose [n=rob@host176-255-dynamic.48-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit ["Quit"] 22:29:05 -!- copumpkin [n=pumpkin@dhcp-212-204.cs.dartmouth.edu] has quit [Read error: 111 (Connection refused)] 22:30:21 -!- Adamant [n=Adamant@unaffiliated/adamant] has quit [] 22:40:41 -!- hotblack23 [n=jh@p5B0564F8.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ["Leaving."] 22:40:48 any 1 knows how to add elements of list? i am completely stunned by trying to do so =( 22:41:54 -!- mmc [n=mima@cs27122078.pp.htv.fi] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 22:42:19 Dr_Metal, (cons 1 (list 1 2 3)) 22:42:31 rudybot_, eval (cons 1 (list 2 3 4)) 22:42:33 samth: your sandbox is ready 22:42:33 samth: ; Value: (1 2 3 4) 22:44:13 i meant elements in list... 22:44:20 (define (add-list al) 22:44:20 (if 22:44:20 (equal? (cadr al) 1) 22:44:20 (+ (car al) (add-list (cdr al))) 22:44:20 22:44:20 ) 22:44:23 ) 22:44:41 fails completely at actually outputing the value it obtains =( 22:44:52 how about a pastebin? 22:44:55 ;) 22:45:05 it's better visually 22:47:34 pastebin? what is that 22:48:29 http://paste.lisp.org/new/scheme 22:48:37 rudybot_, help 22:48:38 samth: help [], version, quote, source, seen , uptime, init [], eval ..., give ..., apropos ..., desc , doc , later "tell" ... 22:48:49 rudybot_, init 22:48:50 samth: your sandbox is ready 22:49:01 rudybot_, eval (define (add-list al) 22:49:01 (if 22:49:01 (equal? 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