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Maybe get a few folks to try it out just on hype. 15:07:44 Do you have some kind of a web-programming framework? 15:09:45 yes, a little mvc framework, written in about 400 lines of scheme, using ASP.NET, but havent touched it in a year or so, i dispise web coding :) 15:10:19 -!- ASau [n=user@ppp91-76-59-112.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 15:12:44 ASau [n=user@ppp91-76-59-112.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #scheme 15:13:01 leppie: it's good for hype, though 15:13:54 I wrote a little library browser web app that I should finish sometime 15:18:37 -!- ASau [n=user@ppp91-76-59-112.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 15:18:52 ASau [n=user@ppp91-76-59-112.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #scheme 15:20:57 -!- hendrix [n=hendrix@host-85-118-227-114.academ.org] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 15:21:20 hendrix [n=hendrix@host-85-118-227-114.academ.org] has joined #scheme 15:26:34 dysinger [n=tim@cpe-75-85-135-191.hawaii.res.rr.com] has joined #scheme 15:26:53 MrFahrenheit [n=RageOfTh@users-42-113.vinet.ba] has joined #scheme 15:27:23 -!- Pepe_ [n=ppjet@ram94-7-82-232-191-53.fbx.proxad.net] has quit ["leaving"] 15:27:38 Ppjet6 [n=ppjet@ram94-7-82-232-191-53.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #scheme 15:33:04 mabes [n=mabes@bmabey.fttp.xmission.com] has joined #scheme 15:38:32 blackened` [n=blackene@ip-89-102-28-224.karneval.cz] has joined #scheme 15:38:32 -!- ASau [n=user@ppp91-76-59-112.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 15:38:58 ASau [n=user@ppp91-76-59-112.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #scheme 15:41:46 -!- ASau [n=user@ppp91-76-59-112.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 15:48:48 -!- jeapostrophe [n=jay@69.169.141.110.provo.static.broadweavenetworks.net] has quit [] 15:50:23 ASau [n=user@ppp91-76-59-112.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #scheme 16:00:40 -!- ASau [n=user@ppp91-76-59-112.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 16:01:14 -!- davazp [n=user@56.Red-79-153-148.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 16:03:02 Adamant [n=Adamant@unaffiliated/adamant] has joined #scheme 16:03:02 ASau [n=user@ppp91-76-59-112.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #scheme 16:11:46 -!- ASau [n=user@ppp91-76-59-112.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)] 16:12:10 ASau [n=user@ppp91-76-59-112.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #scheme 16:22:54 -!- ASau [n=user@ppp91-76-59-112.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 16:23:13 ASau [n=user@ppp91-76-59-112.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #scheme 16:24:04 -!- peddie [n=peddie@c-98-210-236-72.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 16:27:03 gpaci [n=gpaci@gpaci-02.dsllan.toad.net] has joined #scheme 16:29:54 -!- mario-goulart [n=user@67.205.85.241] has quit ["ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)"] 16:29:59 slom [n=ibook@pD9EB7820.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #scheme 16:30:19 -!- ASau [n=user@ppp91-76-59-112.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 16:31:50 -!- ontoillogical [n=user@76-10-171-136.dsl.teksavvy.com] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 16:32:48 ASau [n=user@ppp91-76-59-112.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #scheme 16:40:36 -!- slom [n=ibook@pD9EB7820.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #scheme 16:43:49 -!- ASau [n=user@ppp91-76-59-112.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)] 16:44:01 ASau [n=user@ppp91-76-59-112.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #scheme 16:57:59 jonrafkind [n=jon@98.202.86.149] has joined #scheme 17:01:14 Piratero [i=18074048@gateway/web/freenode/x-pwxqwlttbrctxjpk] has joined #scheme 17:01:21 Hello everyone! 17:02:55 -!- ASau [n=user@ppp91-76-59-112.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)] 17:03:07 ASau [n=user@ppp91-76-59-112.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #scheme 17:03:38 -!- Jafet [n=Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 17:07:54 Just to make sure, the list: '((1) 2 3) has three pairs, correct? 17:07:55 -!- ASau [n=user@ppp91-76-59-112.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)] 17:08:07 Or is that 4? 17:08:19 ASau [n=user@91.76.59.112] has joined #scheme 17:14:29 -!- Adrinael [n=adrinael@barrel.rolli.org] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 17:14:31 Adrinael [n=adrinael@barrel.rolli.org] has joined #scheme 17:15:44 -!- ASau [n=user@91.76.59.112] has quit [Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer)] 17:16:00 ASau [n=user@ppp91-76-59-112.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #scheme 17:23:23 or 1 perhaps 17:30:01 -!- hendrix [n=hendrix@host-85-118-227-114.academ.org] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 17:30:01 -!- ASau [n=user@ppp91-76-59-112.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 17:30:39 ASau [n=user@ppp91-76-59-112.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #scheme 17:32:20 -!- ASau [n=user@ppp91-76-59-112.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 17:33:01 ASau [n=user@ppp91-76-59-112.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #scheme 17:33:51 jeapostrophe [n=jay@69.169.141.110.provo.static.broadweavenetworks.net] has joined #scheme 17:35:13 Perhaps? 17:35:25 Oh, CONS makes a pair. 17:35:36 So, (list (cons 1 2) (cons 3 4) (cons 5 6)) 17:35:41 That's 3 pairs exactly. 17:36:27 Piratero, there are, by my count, six pairs in the list (QUOTE ((1) 2 3)). 17:36:27 -!- ASau [n=user@ppp91-76-59-112.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 17:36:39 Six pairs involved, that is. 17:36:43 OK. 17:36:56 Of course, the list (QUOTE ((1) 2 3)) has only one element that is a pair. 17:37:03 Namely, ((1) 2 3). 17:37:07 metasyntax [n=taylor@pool-71-127-125-129.aubnin.fios.verizon.net] has joined #scheme 17:37:16 I see. 17:38:27 seamus_android [n=alistair@92.24.52.177] has joined #scheme 17:38:37 -!- jeapostrophe [n=jay@69.169.141.110.provo.static.broadweavenetworks.net] has quit [Client Quit] 17:39:03 ASau [n=user@ppp91-76-59-112.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #scheme 17:45:21 -!- ASau [n=user@ppp91-76-59-112.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 17:45:48 ASau [n=user@ppp91-76-59-112.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #scheme 17:48:01 hendrix [n=hendrix@host-85-118-227-114.academ.org] has joined #scheme 17:51:44 -!- seamus_android [n=alistair@92.24.52.177] has quit [Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer)] 17:52:23 -!- ASau [n=user@ppp91-76-59-112.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 17:53:08 ASau [n=user@ppp91-76-59-112.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #scheme 17:55:05 Nshag [n=shag@Mix-Orleans-106-1-193.w193-248.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #scheme 17:55:45 -!- hendrix [n=hendrix@host-85-118-227-114.academ.org] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 17:58:20 hendrix [n=hendrix@host-85-118-227-114.academ.org] has joined #scheme 17:59:10 -!- emma [n=em@unaffiliated/emma] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 17:59:40 hotblack23 [n=jh@91.5.108.122] has joined #scheme 18:04:56 ventonegro [n=alex@189.62.125.151] has joined #scheme 18:10:27 caoliver [i=c66cc528@gateway/web/freenode/x-hzbyksmgsqbjtqfb] has joined #scheme 18:15:00 antoszka_ [n=antoszka@unaffiliated/antoszka] has joined #scheme 18:15:00 -!- ASau [n=user@ppp91-76-59-112.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 18:15:20 -!- antoszka [n=antoszka@unaffiliated/antoszka] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 18:15:22 ASau [n=user@91.76.59.112] has joined #scheme 18:16:50 -!- samth_away is now known as samth 18:21:18 -!- hendrix [n=hendrix@host-85-118-227-114.academ.org] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 18:22:52 saccade [n=saccade@65.78.24.131] has joined #scheme 18:23:28 hendrix [n=hendrix@host-85-118-227-114.academ.org] has joined #scheme 18:25:08 -!- hendrix [n=hendrix@host-85-118-227-114.academ.org] has quit [Operation timed out] 18:25:46 hendrix [n=hendrix@host-85-118-227-114.academ.org] has joined #scheme 18:26:41 -!- ASau [n=user@91.76.59.112] has quit [Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer)] 18:27:01 ASau [n=user@ppp91-76-59-112.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #scheme 18:27:04 offby1` [n=user@q-static-138-125.avvanta.com] has joined #scheme 18:28:58 -!- offby1 [n=user@pdpc/supporter/monthlybyte/offby1] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 18:29:02 -!- offby1` is now known as offby1 18:36:47 arcfide [i=arcfide@adsl-99-137-203-5.dsl.bltnin.sbcglobal.net] has joined #scheme 18:36:50 -!- dzhus [n=sphinx@93-80-220-23.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 18:36:57 Riastradh, are you around? 18:37:46 So, I sent a message to Kent asking him whether Syntax case and the R6RS behavior was a matter of efficiency, convenience, or something else. I also asked him about my thoughts on nested syntax. 18:38:20 -!- ASau [n=user@ppp91-76-59-112.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 18:38:40 ASau [n=user@ppp91-76-59-112.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #scheme 18:38:42 He demonstrated a current situation in syntax-case actually does use nested syntaxes, so I was wrong there. 18:39:19 Whoops, bah, 18:39:24 *arcfide* vanishes spontaneously. 18:39:28 -!- arcfide [i=arcfide@adsl-99-137-203-5.dsl.bltnin.sbcglobal.net] has left #scheme 18:40:30 -!- ASau [n=user@ppp91-76-59-112.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 18:40:45 ASau [n=user@ppp91-76-59-112.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #scheme 18:40:53 I'm here now... 18:41:12 SvekloB [n=sveklo@unaffiliated/sveklo] has joined #scheme 18:45:23 TR2N [i=email@89.180.139.23] has joined #scheme 18:46:32 -!- mmc [n=mima@89.27.122.78] has quit [Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)] 18:48:22 -!- Narrenschiff_ [n=ritchie@80.229.216.34] has 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22:45:28 arcfide [i=arcfide@99.137.203.5] has joined #scheme 22:47:08 Okay, so, where was I? 22:52:26 I think you were in Nairobi. 22:52:36 Or did you mean _after_ we abducted you? That, I can't tell you 22:56:28 -!- r2q2 [n=user@c-24-7-212-60.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 23:02:15 Well, bummer 23:02:39 Oh, that's right, I was in the land of R6RS SYNTAX! Hahah, SYNTAX, mmmm. 23:03:09 -!- fschwidom [n=fschwido@p5B269345.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 23:03:21 Anyways, yes, I was saying that from what I understand now, the 'syntax' of R6RS behaves the way it does because why? Why compromise, of course! 23:03:57 So, apparently, there are two camps, one which believes in always wrapping syntax objects, the other that wants to push them down as far as possible, to the identifiers. 23:05:09 The R6RS version was a compromise among them that was introduced because it provided a convenient way of dealing with syntax as raw objects, as opposed to wrapped objects, in the cases where you would most often want to operate on them that way. So, it isn't an efficiency hack at all, but it doesn't have any semantic reasons either. It's purely a syntactic convenience. 23:05:19 At least, from talking with Kent, that's the best I can come up with. 23:12:38 ve_ [n=a@94-193-95-252.zone7.bethere.co.uk] has joined #scheme 23:13:24 -!- ve [n=a@94-193-95-252.zone7.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 23:13:27 -!- ve_ is now known as ve 23:13:58 Summermute [n=scott@c-76-114-212-247.hsd1.dc.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 23:24:37 gdhik [n=user@081-003-214-196.yesss.at] has joined #scheme 23:25:06 -!- gdhik [n=user@081-003-214-196.yesss.at] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 23:25:17 gdhik [n=user@081-003-214-196.yesss.at] has joined #scheme 23:29:40 -!- gdhik [n=user@081-003-214-196.yesss.at] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 23:30:41 arcfide_ [i=arcfide@adsl-99-14-209-200.dsl.bltnin.sbcglobal.net] has joined #scheme 23:30:50 -!- arcfide [i=arcfide@99.137.203.5] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 23:30:53 -!- arcfide_ is now known as arcfide 23:36:49 higgs [n=fsp@081-003-214-196.yesss.at] has joined #scheme 23:36:52 -!- higgs [n=fsp@081-003-214-196.yesss.at] has quit [Client Quit] 23:44:24 higgs [n=pkt@081-003-214-196.yesss.at] has joined #scheme 23:44:36 -!- higgs [n=pkt@081-003-214-196.yesss.at] has quit [Client Quit] 23:45:02 higgs [n=pkt@081-003-214-196.yesss.at] has joined #scheme 23:48:48 sepult` [n=levgue@xdsl-87-78-31-117.netcologne.de] has joined #scheme 23:53:16 -!- sepult` [n=levgue@xdsl-87-78-31-117.netcologne.de] has quit [Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)] 23:55:04 sepult` [n=levgue@87.78.31.117] has joined #scheme 23:55:25 -!- higgs [n=pkt@081-003-214-196.yesss.at] has quit ["no reason"] 23:56:46 -!- sepult [n=levgue@xdsl-87-78-75-51.netcologne.de] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 23:56:58 -!- sepult` is now known as sepult 23:57:57 -!- TR2N [i=email@89.180.139.23] has left #scheme 23:58:41 knpti [n=user@081-003-214-196.yesss.at] has joined #scheme