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I'll follow up with another: I wonder if Plan 9 will play nice under qemu? 00:27:57 *gnomon* yoinks the ISO 00:29:42 gnomon: 'won't'? 00:31:09 *gnomon* hides 00:31:20 fff, not even close to building 00:32:42 Elly, what kind of failure are you seeing? 00:32:57 I mean, 8c doesn't support #if 00:33:15 even if it did, most of the headers are missing 00:34:37 make_input_string_port() relies on the nonexistent funopen() 00:36:52 nothingHappens [n=nothingH@173-25-176-111.client.mchsi.com] has joined #scheme 00:39:03 -!- dfeuer [n=dfeuer@wikimedia/Dfeuer] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 00:39:32 zanes [n=zane@c-76-24-24-236.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 00:43:03 -!- mbishop_ is now known as mbishop 00:47:46 bgs100 [n=ian@unaffiliated/bgs100] has joined #scheme 01:07:20 -!- mrsolo [n=mrsolo@nat/yahoo/x-lxnhdqlkdfutmhtk] has quit ["Leaving"] 01:08:17 -!- Axioplas1_ is now known as Axioplase 01:11:18 -!- dmoerner [n=dmr@89-65.res.pomona.edu] has quit ["Leaving"] 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and printing. 04:20:33 jonnay [n=user@d75-159-173-108.abhsia.telus.net] has joined #scheme 04:21:52 -!- addamgc [n=addamgc@ip72-203-154-146.br.br.cox.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 04:22:08 -!- zanes [n=zane@c-76-24-24-236.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [] 04:22:25 -!- schemer999 [n=tmilford@cpe-76-90-137-46.socal.res.rr.com] has quit [] 04:22:37 hello 04:22:48 "like a cartoon character swearing" 04:22:50 zanes [n=zane@c-76-24-24-236.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 04:23:35 schemer999 [n=tmilford@cpe-76-90-137-46.socal.res.rr.com] has joined #scheme 04:29:45 -!- shyam_k [n=user@unaffiliated/shyam-k/x-8459115] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 04:37:41 addamgc [n=addamgc@ip72-203-154-146.br.br.cox.net] has joined #scheme 04:39:16 Ayup. 04:39:57 So what about them ratios? 04:41:10 dunno. Irrantional? 04:41:20 improper? 04:43:00 irrational ratios? 04:43:12 pi / e ! 04:44:43 foof [n=user@163.221.116.225] has joined #scheme 04:45:03 -!- nothingHappens [n=nothingH@173-25-176-111.client.mchsi.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 04:50:34 dfeuer [n=dfeuer@wikimedia/Dfeuer] has joined #scheme 05:10:26 optimizer [n=x@unaffiliated/lowlycoder] has joined #scheme 05:13:54 mornfall [n=mornfall@anna.fi.muni.cz] has joined #scheme 05:19:44 -!- jonnay [n=user@d75-159-173-108.abhsia.telus.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 05:25:01 -!- MichaelRaskin [n=MichaelR@213.171.48.239] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 05:26:04 MichaelRaskin [n=MichaelR@213.171.48.239] has joined #scheme 05:30:51 jlongster [n=user@c-68-59-187-95.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 05:33:12 It seems to me that the issue around ratios is really the fact that Scheme doesn't have an inexact-division procedure. You can write one pretty easily, but I suspect (but cannot prove) that merely doing inexact->exact is not the best way to implement this. 05:33:12 -!- ASau` [n=user@ppp91-77-57-240.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 05:33:51 Consequently, if you wind up doing exact arithmetic involving lots of division, your numerators and denominators get longer and longer, and your code slower and slower. 05:35:25 -!- optimizer [n=x@unaffiliated/lowlycoder] has quit ["leaving"] 05:35:44 ASau` [n=user@ppp91-77-57-240.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #scheme 05:36:51 -!- jcowan [n=jcowan@cpe-74-68-154-139.nyc.res.rr.com] has quit ["Leaving"] 05:47:05 -!- ASau` [n=user@ppp91-77-57-240.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 05:47:23 ASau` [n=user@ppp91-77-57-240.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #scheme 05:51:46 -!- ASau` [n=user@ppp91-77-57-240.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 05:51:56 ASau` 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identical error 08:15:30 just running mzscheme3m with no arguments causes a bus error... the problem occurs in scheme_gmp_tls_unload() with the assignment s[0] = 0; 08:19:26 jeapostrophe [n=jay@69.169.141.110.provo.static.broadweavenetworks.net] has joined #scheme 08:20:51 there are hundreds of build warnings about casting from a pointer to an integer of a different size... is this a known problem? 08:24:02 -!- dmoerner [n=dmr@89-65.res.pomona.edu] has quit ["Leaving"] 08:31:10 Jafet [n=Jafet@unaffiliated/jafet] has joined #scheme 08:33:54 -!- mmc [n=mima@89.27.122.78] has quit [Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)] 08:39:45 thehcdreamer [n=thehcdre@94.198.78.26] has joined #scheme 08:45:33 -!- MichaelRaskin [n=MichaelR@213.171.48.239] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 08:47:41 sepult` [n=levgue@xdsl-87-78-73-77.netcologne.de] has joined #scheme 08:49:20 ebzzry [n=ebzzry@124.217.64.76] has joined #scheme 08:49:53 In PLT, where is `time-apply' defined? 08:54:28 Sveklo2 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I'm trying to use the Cairo Planet package: ffi-obj: couldn't get "cairo_copy" from "libcairo.dylib" (dlsym(0x612820, cairo_copy): symbol not found) 10:24:15 Sveklo2: Isn't it obvious? 10:26:19 eli: Well, the symbol is not found, obviously. I was hoping on getting ideas on where to start searching for what is causing that. Could it be a library version issue? Library path issue? 10:26:34 I have no idea... 10:26:58 Did you try `nm'? 10:27:17 Even `strings' on the file should produce some grepable output. 10:27:30 -!- luz [n=davids@189.122.90.116] has quit ["Client exiting"] 10:30:08 Thanks for the hint about 'nm'. Seems like there actually is no 'cairo_copy' in this version of libcairo.dylib. I should try to track down against what version the Cairo Planet package was written. 10:30:54 crypto [n=z0d@artifact.hu] has joined #scheme 10:31:19 -!- crypto is now known as Guest69530 10:32:02 Sveklo2: a quick google for `cairo_copy' brings up a suspiciously small number of results, maybe it was deprecated or something? 10:32:09 shyam_k [n=user@unaffiliated/shyam-k/x-8459115] has joined #scheme 10:32:15 s/deprecated/removed/ 10:32:53 i am using M-x run-scheme in emacs to learn scheme. Whats the best way to measure time taken by a procedure in that? 10:33:29 run-scheme is just running /usr/bin/scheme 10:35:07 -!- z0d [n=z0d@unaffiliated/z0d] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 10:47:11 Edico [n=Edico@unaffiliated/edico] has joined #scheme 10:48:16 -!- schemer999 [n=tmilford@cpe-76-90-137-46.socal.res.rr.com] has quit [] 10:52:05 wow! just read ...http://www.gnu.org/software/mit-scheme/documentation/mit-scheme-ref/Machine-Time.html 10:52:07 -rudybot_:#scheme- http://tinyurl.com/ybeulb8 10:54:49 thesnowdog_ [i=thesnowd@114.73.153.80] has joined #scheme 10:55:33 luz [n=davids@189.122.90.116] has joined #scheme 10:55:56 Guest53971 [n=user@195.212.29.179] has joined #scheme 10:59:01 xwl [n=user@61.149.81.101] has joined #scheme 11:06:34 Does not seem like the issue is specific to 'cairo_copy', because when removing that symbol, the next one becomes an issue, and so on. 11:06:43 (removing from the package) 11:07:46 Sveklo2: Which symbols are failing next? 11:08:55 eli: cairo_set_target_surface, cairo_set_target_image, cairo_set_target_ps, cairo_set_rgb_color. 11:09:08 -!- foof [n=user@isa7-dhcp-116-225.naist.jp] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 11:09:45 -!- xwl [n=user@61.149.81.101] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 11:10:09 Sveklo2: So, I looked at my libcairo -- and none of these are in there too. 11:10:21 And this is Fedora 7 -- so it's not really very new. 11:10:26 Yes, a Google search seems to reveal that there has been some wide-sweeping API renames. 11:10:32 xwl [n=user@61.149.81.101] has joined #scheme 11:10:35 Ah, you found that too... 11:11:02 I was about to point at some email titled "API Shakeup". 11:11:21 For example this one seems to indicate that: https://stage.maemo.org/svn/maemo/projects/haf/branches/libcairo/OSSO-2.0/util/cairo-api-update 11:11:23 -rudybot_:#scheme- http://tinyurl.com/ydy85oc 11:11:28 The cairo code on planet is very old, btw -- so it's not surprising that it would miss something like that. 11:12:28 Well, have to reconsider the situation then: if the Cairo package is not working currently, I have to either update it, or stay in Ruby (+ RCairo). I was hoping to be able to move over to Scheme. 11:12:56 Try to ask on the mailing list. 11:13:16 There is a plan to revise mred to be in scheme, and a cairo interface is part of that. 11:13:18 Looks encouraging though that the FFI-related code is so small. Seems relatively easy to write (at least simpler) interfaces to C libraries. 11:13:27 IIRC, there are some code bits related to that. 11:13:39 What do you need it for, BTW? 11:13:41 -!- Guest69530 is now known as z0d 11:14:13 For generating vector-based images programmatically. Basically for doing icons etc. 11:14:52 Did you consider using mred? 11:15:03 As an alternative to manually drawing in a vector program, I want to describe the image programmatically. Part of the reason is to be able to reuse parts of images for other images (without having to duplicate everything by hand in some drawing program). 11:15:48 So, did you try to look at mred? 11:15:51 My impression was that MrEd is for doing GUI programs, while I need to run batch jobs that generate image files (PNGs) on disk. 11:16:03 Not at all. 11:16:04 thesnowdog__ [i=thesnowd@114.73.61.93] has joined #scheme 11:16:21 Then I have to reconsider it. 11:16:22 Producing images with it is pretty easy. 11:16:38 You just write some code that draws some stuff, 11:16:55 and you can use that code with a bitmap dc object -- which could be saved to a file (png etc) 11:17:15 Or you can use it with a postscript dc, which will produce a postscript file. 11:17:17 if you find a solution to that eli I am also interested :) 11:17:28 -!- thesnowdog_ [i=thesnowd@114.73.153.80] has quit [Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)] 11:17:35 C-Keen: solution to what? 11:18:17 C-Keen: In case you're talking about drawing images, then that's what Sveklo2 is looking for... 11:18:34 Sveklo2: And BTW, it *is* using cairo when you use a bitmap -- only the mred code that does that is in C. 11:19:20 ah ok, sorry eli 11:19:54 Sveklo2: If you ask about *that* on the list, then you will most definitely get many examples... 11:20:41 C-Keen: in that case you can ask there too -- it's really not too difficult to do such things. Much easier than writing gui code. 11:20:44 -!- Guest53971 is now known as esnk 11:20:52 -!- thesnowdog [i=thesnowd@114.73.167.112] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 11:22:02 thesnowdog [i=thesnowd@114.73.2.244] has joined #scheme 11:25:04 -!- thehcdreamer [n=thehcdre@94.198.78.26] has quit [] 11:28:14 sstrickl [n=sstrickl@nomad.ccs.neu.edu] has joined #scheme 11:43:22 -!- emma [n=em@unaffiliated/emma] has quit ["Leaving"] 11:48:25 -!- thesnowdog__ [i=thesnowd@114.73.61.93] has quit [Connection timed out] 11:48:28 -!- luz [n=davids@189.122.90.116] has quit ["Client exiting"] 11:49:06 eli: gui code is what I want to avoid. atm I am using a chicken scheme egg for ezxdisp bindings, unfortunatly I cannot easily create images from that 11:50:47 C-Keen: So, just like I said -- mred can be used for this, not just for gui. 11:52:48 -!- Edico [n=Edico@unaffiliated/edico] has quit ["Ex-Chat"] 11:54:34 eli: thanks for the headsup 11:56:36 -!- bombshelter13_ 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would I be able to do with: 18:04:53 http://www.amazon.com/Footprints-Sand-Afghan-Throw-Blanket/dp/B002QVQG0Y/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=home-garden&qid=1254506232&sr=1-1 18:04:55 -rudybot_:#scheme- http://tinyurl.com/ybnls48 18:05:58 optimizer: That is one you would lay over the back of your rocking chair. 18:06:04 Next to a throw pillow. 18:07:20 what does the word "throw" mean in this context? 18:07:25 On a bed, you might take that and fold it over once or twice, put it at the foot of the bed and lay it over a long cylindrical pillo or what not. 18:07:51 optimizer: casually tossed in strategic locations for aesthetics. 18:08:30 arcfide: I am in awe. I used to thihnk Scheme programmers were all nerds. You surprise me with your knowledge of non-CS things. 18:08:30 -!- ASau [n=user@ppp91-77-57-240.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 18:08:39 ASau [n=user@ppp91-77-57-240.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #scheme 18:09:12 optimizer: You're extrapolating. We only know about Scheme and pillows & blankets. 18:10:26 And throwing pillows. 18:10:34 Strategically. 18:10:40 if I'm googling for things to cover a 2 seat sofa, what term should I be using? 18:10:44 "throw blanket" for that too? 18:10:52 Riastradh: Yes, usually aimed at the back of your unsuspecting brother's head. 18:10:58 maybe "dust" 18:11:03 Or an unsuspecting chandler's head. 18:11:12 Ha! Gotcha! 18:11:19 if you throw pillows, what do you do with baseballs and rocks? 18:11:28 Throw blankets, on the other hand, are usually spun around to form a towel whip. 18:11:30 Now I'm feeling sleepy. 18:11:37 The tassels make a great impact. 18:11:57 optimizer: You blast rocks and toss baseballs. 18:14:05 -!- ASau [n=user@ppp91-77-57-240.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 18:14:16 ASau [n=user@ppp91-77-57-240.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #scheme 18:14:47 -!- thesnowdog_ [i=thesnowd@114.73.27.208] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 18:19:13 -!- ASau [n=user@ppp91-77-57-240.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 18:19:18 docgnome [n=docgnome@65.101.144.42] has joined #scheme 18:19:25 ASau [n=user@ppp91-77-57-240.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #scheme 18:23:38 MrFahrenheit [n=RageOfTh@87.250.120.210] has joined #scheme 18:23:58 -!- sstrickl [n=sstrickl@dublin.ccs.neu.edu] has quit [] 18:25:25 -!- ASau 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[n=user@ppp91-77-58-254.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #scheme 22:52:46 -!- thesnowdog_ [i=thesnowd@114.73.30.33] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 22:53:23 arthurmaciel [n=user@189.100.112.241] has joined #scheme 22:53:27 hi there! 22:54:39 I'm reading Novig's PAIP and saw an implementation of the program Twenty Questions. He uses LISP structures to make a tree. How can structures be implemented in Scheme? Does it already have them? 22:56:25 -!- antoszka [n=antoszka@unaffiliated/antoszka] has quit ["+++ killed by SIGSEGV +++"] 23:00:17 Yes, arthurmaciel: see SRFI 9 . 23:01:02 However, LISP didn't have structures; they weren't invented by the time that LISP became obsolete. Most languages in the Lisp family, though, have similar beasts, usually under the name `record' or `structure'. 23:04:25 Riastradh: do you see a better way to implemnt a tree with a node name and two "pointers" (to other nodes)? 23:04:35 (binary tree) 23:05:00 No. Records are the usual way to make new types of data. 23:06:40 -!- ASau [n=user@ppp91-77-57-240.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 23:07:01 Riastradh: thanks 23:07:40 Riastradh: any way to serialize variables to files? (I really don't know much about it) 23:07:59 Lots of ways -- but they're up to you to design and implement. There is no general way. 23:08:12 (I assume you meant `serialize *values*' or `serialize *objects*'.) 23:10:00 Riastradh: pardon me: I really get confused when talking about symbols, variables, values and/or objects. 23:11:42 Objects are the things that programs work with. Symbols are a type of object. When ask Scheme to evaluate it, an expression has a value. A variable is a location for an object, with a symbolic name by which you can refer to it within limited scopes in your program. 23:12:33 aren't symobls the symbolic name of a variable?? 23:12:47 no 23:13:09 symbols are closer in nature to strings 23:13:20 When one program, a meta-program, is reasoning about another program, an object-program, the meta-program's representation of the object-program is a tree of lists, symbols, &c. 23:14:04 The meta-program uses symbols, which occur in the representation of the object-program, to identify the object-program's variables. 23:14:27 Riastradh: pretty good. (I just saved this explanation) 23:14:50 The meta-program also uses symbols to identify other things in the object-program: keywords, and literal data inside quotations. 23:16:51 what about signals? any tip on how to implement them? 23:17:04 You'll have to be more precise. `Signal' is a word with many meanings. 23:18:13 I would like to connect a procedure to many others. Supose I create an artificial neurone that receives inputs, compute anything needed and fires an output. I would like to connect it to many (and previously unknown) neurons that should get the output as their input, compute and fire, and so on. 23:18:36 There's a nice little bit in SICP on how to wire things together like this. 23:18:53 peter_12 [n=peter_12@S01060023699d4809.vn.shawcable.net] has joined #scheme 23:18:58 ...using the terms `wire' and `signal', so now you now what to search for, and I must vanish. 23:19:01 *Riastradh* vanishes. 23:19:07 thanks! 23:21:47 dudleyf [n=dudleyf@ip70-178-212-238.ks.ks.cox.net] has joined #scheme 23:27:47 -!- mario-goulart [n=user@67.205.85.241] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 23:30:42 -!- dmoerner [n=dmr@89-65.res.pomona.edu] has quit ["Leaving"] 23:33:27 -!- dudleyf [n=dudleyf@ip70-178-212-238.ks.ks.cox.net] has quit [] 23:36:06 davazp [n=user@56.Red-79-153-148.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #scheme 23:43:35 -!- masm [n=masm@bl7-37-152.dsl.telepac.pt] has quit ["Leaving."] 23:49:13 -!- ray [i=ray@drong.notacat.org] has quit [holmes.freenode.net irc.freenode.net] 23:51:46 ray [i=ray@drong.notacat.org] has joined #scheme