00:00:13 offby1, curtisw: was there some question? 00:00:36 (The NEU dept was down today, and I'm slowly recovering services.) 00:00:50 what? 00:00:53 ah 00:00:57 wow, that was a while ago 00:01:15 -!- Paraselene_ [n=Not@79-67-214-225.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 00:01:25 I was looking for a PLT library function to functionally update a byte string 00:01:30 Paraselene [n=Not@79-67-214-225.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #scheme 00:01:38 curtisw: What kind of an update do you need? 00:01:57 e.g. (bytes-set #"xyz" 1 65) => #"Axy" 00:02:08 I wound up using bytes-copy and bytes-set! 00:02:25 but I don't like manually copying stuff when I don't have to 00:03:19 I couldn't find any in the docs, so I assume no 00:03:54 curtisw: No, there's no functional version of `bytes-set', for a very similar reason to not having `vector-set' 00:04:11 reason? 00:08:16 curtisw: Most uses of a `vector' are for side-effects, so if you need an immutable one, you'd usually create a regular array and make it immutable. 00:08:43 davazp [n=user@56.Red-79-153-148.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #scheme 00:08:45 curtisw: As for byte strings, you can also use `subbytes' which sounds like it will make things easier for what you're trying to do. 00:09:05 I'll look into it 00:10:25 btw, does drscheme remember its window size after closing? 00:11:09 curtisw: Yes, it does. 00:11:31 there's a bug in version 4.2, then 00:11:52 if you close the editor window while it's maximized it remembers the maximized window's size 00:12:05 gfb [i=80640586@gateway/web/freenode/x-1d570a010b957bbf] has joined #scheme 00:12:19 not the unmaximized size. when it starts up, it starts unmaximized but with the size of a maximized window 00:12:37 That's not a bug, it's a missing feature -- not being able to save "maximized?" as part of the state (and therefore no "size when not maximized"). 00:12:50 hehe 00:12:52 It was covered recently by some bug report. 00:12:55 (IIRC) 00:12:58 "That's not a bug, it's a missing feature" 00:13:00 ok 00:13:05 just wanted to let you know 00:13:27 there should be an easy enough, though not ideal way of fixing it 00:13:40 don't update the size when the window goes maximized 00:13:47 just save the size of the unmaximized window 00:15:46 curtisw: I don't know the details of the code -- but my guess is that this is not as easy as that, since it will just call the `resize' method when maximized (which it should), so you're back to depending on the GUI layer providing you with information about whether the window is maximized or not. 00:16:03 But feel free to ask about it on the list. 00:16:10 I see 00:16:27 rats, and I thought I'd already fixed it ;-) 00:16:39 honestly, it's not that important to me 00:16:48 just thought I might mention it while you're here 00:16:58 anyway, I should get back to coding. thanks for the help 00:17:22 Well, the utility of mailing list posts is that it is taken as corresponding to user demand for a feature or a bugfix. 00:17:39 yes 00:17:41 but you see 00:17:41 That is, if tomorrow morning a 100 separate people would mail about it, it would likely get fixed sooner. 00:17:44 I'm quite lazy 00:18:14 hmm, I suppose I might as well 00:18:16 it's not that much work 00:19:22 -!- Quadrescence [n=quad@unaffiliated/quadrescence] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 00:20:08 Quadrescence [n=quad@24.118.241.200] has joined #scheme 00:24:44 -!- Quadrescence [n=quad@unaffiliated/quadrescence] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 00:25:22 Quadrescence [n=quad@unaffiliated/quadrescence] has joined #scheme 00:40:39 -!- davazp [n=user@56.Red-79-153-148.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has quit ["ERC Version 5.2 (IRC client for Emacs)"] 00:43:36 -!- mejja [n=user@c-49b6e555.023-82-73746f38.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 00:45:04 underspecified_ [n=eric@softbank220043052007.bbtec.net] has joined #scheme 00:51:56 -!- underspecified__ [n=eric@softbank220043052007.bbtec.net] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 00:59:46 -!- MichaelRaskin [n=MichaelR@195.91.224.225] has left #scheme 01:00:20 MichaelRaskin [n=MichaelR@195.91.224.225] has joined #scheme 01:09:45 -!- Mr_Awesome [n=eric@pool-98-115-42-247.chi01.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 01:16:58 -!- Poeir_ is now known as Poeir 01:34:51 fnord123 [n=fnord123@78-105-27-133.zone3.bethere.co.uk] has joined #scheme 01:36:37 karlw [n=karl@adsl-99-157-202-134.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net] has joined #scheme 01:40:16 -!- Nshag [i=user@Mix-Orleans-106-4-148.w193-248.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 01:40:36 Pocket [n=Pocket78@p2152-ipbf1507hodogaya.kanagawa.ocn.ne.jp] has joined #scheme 01:42:28 -!- Pocket [n=Pocket78@p2152-ipbf1507hodogaya.kanagawa.ocn.ne.jp] has left #scheme 01:50:33 -!- fnord1231 [n=fnord123@host81-159-237-125.range81-159.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 01:51:45 -!- blackened` [n=blackene@ip-89-102-28-224.karneval.cz] has quit [] 01:54:36 underspecified__ [n=eric@softbank220043052007.bbtec.net] has joined #scheme 01:56:28 -!- gfb [i=80640586@gateway/web/freenode/x-1d570a010b957bbf] has quit ["Page closed"] 02:10:45 Mr_Awesome [n=eric@pool-98-115-42-247.chi01.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #scheme 02:13:17 -!- underspecified_ [n=eric@softbank220043052007.bbtec.net] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 02:14:42 -!- underspecified__ [n=eric@softbank220043052007.bbtec.net] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 02:16:56 lowlycoder [n=x@unaffiliated/lowlycoder] has joined #scheme 02:17:53 underspecified_ [n=eric@softbank220043052007.bbtec.net] has joined #scheme 02:20:26 -!- tc-rucho [n=tc-rucho@unaffiliated/tc-rucho] has left #scheme 02:26:41 -!- lowlycoder [n=x@unaffiliated/lowlycoder] has quit ["leaving"] 02:36:18 What am I doing wrong with: http://pastebin.ca/1484371 ? 02:39:19 I'm trying to create a stateless servlet but I seem to be missing something 02:41:50 what's a stateless servlet? ._. 02:43:55 synx: http://docs.plt-scheme.org/web-server/stateless.html 02:44:40 I can see the documentation pantsd_. That doesn't help much though. 02:45:15 -!- elderK [n=elderK@222-152-95-210.jetstream.xtra.co.nz] has quit [] 02:46:08 synx: so my understanding (which could be wrong since I'm playing with them) is that they simply serialize all the state with stuffers to the client side 02:46:14 but I'm not entirely sure 02:47:21 Serializing all the state to the client side, to me, sounds both ridiculous and dangerous. 02:48:32 lowlycoder [n=x@unaffiliated/lowlycoder] has joined #scheme 02:49:13 well so they wrap it in side something like md5stuffer so you don't have client tampering with the serializations 02:49:23 wait no 02:49:24 meh 02:56:57 -!- lowlycoder [n=x@unaffiliated/lowlycoder] has quit ["Lost terminal"] 03:04:44 -!- mbishop [n=martin@unaffiliated/mbishop] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 03:05:18 mbishop [n=martin@unaffiliated/mbishop] has joined #scheme 03:10:31 -!- MichaelRaskin [n=MichaelR@195.91.224.225] has left #scheme 03:11:02 MichaelRaskin [n=MichaelR@195.91.224.225] has joined #scheme 03:11:37 mbishop_ [n=martin@unaffiliated/mbishop] has joined #scheme 03:11:48 -!- Pepe_ [n=ppjet@78.115.255.187] has quit ["leaving"] 03:12:51 -!- Ppjet6 [n=ppjet@78.115.255.187] has quit ["leaving"] 03:13:09 Ppjet6 [n=ppjet@78.115.255.187] has joined #scheme 03:15:40 -!- Ppjet6 is now known as Pepe_ 03:16:36 elderK [n=elderK@222-152-95-210.jetstream.xtra.co.nz] has joined #scheme 03:16:49 hey guys 03:19:05 I was wondering what you guys think of CL? 03:19:58 -!- mbishop [n=martin@unaffiliated/mbishop] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 03:26:08 Cow Licks? I find them much too salty 03:27:12 No wait, that's saltlicks 03:27:35 funny, for me it's the same for suet 03:31:03 -!- segoe [i=3e164621@gateway/web/freenode/x-fc8fc62ccc2f9b7f] has quit [Client Quit] 03:36:21 elderK: CL has some occasionally useful features like `loop' and other macros but it's rather bloated. 03:36:51 aye, karlw, it seems rather bloated. 03:36:57 Although, SBCL seems like a quite fine compiler. 03:37:17 It also has the fuzzy aura of warmth known as 'standardization' 03:37:17 :P 03:37:51 If you need performance, try a compiler like Chicken or ikarus. 03:38:59 Aye. 03:39:05 It's not really performance that concerns me at current :) 03:39:09 That's why I have C. 03:39:09 :P 03:39:23 I had a strange epiphany about a half hour ago. 03:39:26 Still kind of blown away by it, tbh. 03:39:27 :) 03:39:30 -!- RageOfThou [n=RageOfTh@89.146.174.169] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 03:39:33 Whenever I want CL feature x, I can typically find it somewhere. 03:39:46 I've spent years working in Assembly and C. 03:39:48 But, 03:39:54 I just don't feel like working in C anymore. 03:40:06 This past week has been spent happily (and furiously) hacking away and playing with scheme. 03:40:10 I just don't feel like working in C anymore. 03:40:14 I don't know why, I just, don't. 03:40:51 Has me a tad worried even. 03:40:51 lol 03:40:59 If you miss library x, I'd recommend Chicken. 03:41:09 I currently use Chicken. 03:41:14 peter_12 [n=peter_12@S010600119506b129.gv.shawcable.net] has joined #scheme 03:42:04 I haven't played with the FFI enough. 03:43:16 either 03:43:22 I'm reasonably new to Scheme, 03:43:28 only 'seriously' playing with it for about two months now. 03:43:34 but, on and off with lisp since december. 03:43:48 really starting to enjoy working with it. 03:43:57 maybe only because it's new. 03:44:03 (C has little new to show me) 03:44:13 (the joy in C is now creating neat things) 03:44:16 (not the fun of hte language itself) 03:44:27 Right now 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elderK [n=elderK@222-152-95-210.jetstream.xtra.co.nz] has joined #scheme 06:10:21 Hey guys, I was wondering if anyone had some nice links on some scheme/lisp articles? 06:10:29 like, advantages of lisp/scheme? 06:12:36 peter_12_ [n=peter_12@S010600119506b129.gv.shawcable.net] has joined #scheme 06:12:50 -!- peter_12 [n=peter_12@S010600119506b129.gv.shawcable.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 06:16:27 *eli* yawns 06:16:43 elderK: have you read anything about Scheme? 06:18:46 elderK: if you come back. Check out http://mitpress.mit.edu/sicp/. That book is a great discussion of using Scheme. 06:20:04 copumpkin [n=pumpkin@c-24-63-67-154.hsd1.nh.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 06:20:36 I've read tons about it, peter. 06:20:39 and I've read sicp 06:20:51 but that doesn't mean I don't want more perspectives. 06:23:09 -!- peter_12_ [n=peter_12@S010600119506b129.gv.shawcable.net] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 06:31:01 -!- kniu [n=kniu@pool-71-107-56-85.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 06:31:17 kniu [n=kniu@pool-71-107-56-85.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #scheme 06:31:56 arcfide [n=arcfide@ppp-70-246-147-114.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net] has joined #scheme 06:33:55 peter_12 [n=peter_12@S010600119506b129.gv.shawcable.net] has joined #scheme 06:38:25 -!- peter_12 [n=peter_12@S010600119506b129.gv.shawcable.net] has quit [Client Quit] 06:43:15 mmc [n=mima@cs162149.pp.htv.fi] has joined #scheme 06:45:30 -!- alanp_ [n=alanp@station.laudicina.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 06:46:56 kilimanjaro [n=kilimanj@70.116.95.163] has joined #scheme 06:47:33 tobetchi [n=tobetchi@p923e6b.sagant01.ap.so-net.ne.jp] has joined #scheme 06:51:22 raboof_ [n=nospam@adsl-216-103-89-198.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net] has joined #scheme 07:06:08 -!- elderK [n=elderK@222-152-95-210.jetstream.xtra.co.nz] has left #scheme 07:12:13 jewel_ [n=jewel@dsl-247-203-169.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #scheme 07:18:19 -!- arcfide [n=arcfide@ppp-70-246-147-114.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net] has left #scheme 07:21:30 arcfide [n=arcfide@ppp-70-246-147-114.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net] has joined #scheme 07:21:32 -!- arcfide [n=arcfide@ppp-70-246-147-114.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net] has left #scheme 07:23:13 -!- CaptainMorgan [n=CaptainM@c-24-62-183-102.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Client Quit] 07:30:35 alanp_ [n=alanp@i209-195-93-149.cia.com] has joined #scheme 07:31:11 elderK [n=elderK@222-152-95-210.jetstream.xtra.co.nz] has joined #scheme 07:37:07 -!- jewel_ [n=jewel@dsl-247-203-169.telkomadsl.co.za] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 07:37:26 -!- elderK [n=elderK@222-152-95-210.jetstream.xtra.co.nz] has left #scheme 07:56:10 -!- raboof_ [n=nospam@adsl-216-103-89-198.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net] has left #scheme 07:56:39 -!- copumpkin [n=pumpkin@c-24-63-67-154.hsd1.nh.comcast.net] has quit [Client Quit] 08:14:21 -!- mmc [n=mima@cs162149.pp.htv.fi] has quit ["Leaving."] 08:24:30 CaptainMorgan [n=CaptainM@c-24-62-183-102.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 08:51:59 hm 08:52:06 I feel mysteriously suffused with the lisp nature 08:56:51 jeremiah [n=jeremiah@imaxeson.net] has joined #scheme 09:00:04 Modius [n=Modius@24.174.112.56] has joined #scheme 09:00:39 wingo [n=wingo@94.Red-81-43-97.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #scheme 09:02:02 -!- kilimanjaro [n=kilimanj@70.116.95.163] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 09:02:14 vgeddes [n=vgeddes@dsl-245-150-125.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #scheme 09:05:13 Elly: that's because you've reached the insubstantial part of the scheme trinity known as spirit; beware of spontaneous conception 09:05:39 athos [n=philipp@92.250.250.68] has joined #scheme 09:06:05 matt5 [n=job@unaffiliated/matt5] has joined #scheme 09:19:50 wingo_ [n=wingo@176.Red-88-2-179.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #scheme 09:22:12 -!- wingo [n=wingo@94.Red-81-43-97.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 09:28:43 -!- wingo_ [n=wingo@176.Red-88-2-179.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 09:31:11 -!- rocketman [n=f@amcant.demon.co.uk] has quit ["Leaving"] 09:43:46 tc-rucho [n=tc-rucho@unaffiliated/tc-rucho] has joined #scheme 09:50:03 klutometis: it's never happened before 10:02:20 hm... modules can't have circular dependencies? :( 10:06:34 hkBst [n=hkBst@gentoo/developer/hkbst] has joined #scheme 10:10:34 -!- kniu [n=kniu@pool-71-107-56-85.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 10:17:13 underspecified__ [n=eric@softbank220043052007.bbtec.net] has joined #scheme 10:23:28 -!- underspecified_ [n=eric@softbank220043052007.bbtec.net] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 10:29:39 Edico [n=Edico@unaffiliated/edico] has joined #scheme 10:33:40 Fabse [n=mightyfi@wikipedia/Track-n-Field] has joined #scheme 10:34:37 Cheery [n=cheery@a91-155-217-104.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #scheme 10:34:51 what is the most convenient way to implement call/cc? 10:35:10 (define call/cc call-with-current-continuation) 10:35:43 g 10:36:04 but then, how can one implement call/cc then? 10:37:16 s/call\/cc/call-with-current-continuation/g 10:37:53 Cheery: do a CPS transform? 10:39:33 hkBst: yeah, but how to do it so that the implementation is satisfying. implementing a non-scheme programming language there, and I'd like to get continuations there. 10:41:13 Cheery: taste is personal I guess... 10:42:07 I'd like about a simple implementation that'd be also efficient. 10:42:34 wingo [n=wingo@203.Red-79-154-60.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #scheme 10:42:45 hm. could of course check on source code of some numerous scheme implementations we have there though. 11:01:07 Or you could implement the non-scheme programming languageg there using scheme here. 11:02:39 raikov [n=igr@187.75.145.122.ap.yournet.ne.jp] has joined #scheme 11:02:44 found lazy stack copying. 11:03:02 -!- raikov [n=igr@187.75.145.122.ap.yournet.ne.jp] has left #scheme 11:07:08 but not helping though.. there's all commercial papers. 11:07:26 and in the end, it seems being for rare use of continuations, I plan to use them often. 11:11:10 wingo_ [n=wingo@141.Red-79-150-222.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #scheme 11:11:13 EnglishGent [n=EnglishG@ai-core.demon.co.uk] has joined #scheme 11:12:42 -!- wingo [n=wingo@203.Red-79-154-60.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 11:20:06 -!- Cheery [n=cheery@a91-155-217-104.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has left #scheme 11:21:06 hi 11:21:21 hello :) 11:44:23 dzhus [n=sphinx@95-24-74-12.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #scheme 11:48:17 -!- dzhus [n=sphinx@95-24-74-12.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 11:48:42 MrFahrenheit [n=RageOfTh@89.146.166.214] has joined #scheme 11:51:34 wingo__ [n=wingo@203.Red-79-154-60.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #scheme 11:53:44 -!- stepnem [n=stepnem@topol.nat.praha12.net] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 11:55:22 -!- wingo_ [n=wingo@141.Red-79-150-222.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 11:58:52 stepnem [n=stepnem@topol.nat.praha12.net] has joined #scheme 11:59:12 cw__ [n=cw@c-71-194-80-68.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 11:59:55 in C if you want to do fast access to a subarray (say elements 10-19) then you can precalculate the subarray base pointer ``subarray_pointer = array_pointer + subarray_offset''. Is it also possible in Scheme to prevent repeatedly having to add subarray_offset? 12:00:13 or should one rely on their compiler to do this? 12:01:06 blackened` [n=blackene@ip-89-102-28-224.karneval.cz] has joined #scheme 12:11:11 -!- wingo__ [n=wingo@203.Red-79-154-60.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 12:11:34 wingo__ [n=wingo@222.Red-79-157-82.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #scheme 12:17:15 -!- curtisw [n=cw@c-71-194-80-68.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 12:26:40 -!- pfo [n=pfo@chello084114049188.14.vie.surfer.at] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 12:26:50 pemleco [n=pemleco@bbwirelessgw1-ff98c300-194.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #scheme 12:27:26 -!- sladegen [n=nemo@unaffiliated/sladegen] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 12:27:35 sladegen [n=nemo@unaffiliated/sladegen] has joined #scheme 12:31:56 -!- wingo__ [n=wingo@222.Red-79-157-82.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 12:34:57 is there any support for hidden data fields or establishing invariants in any of the record/struct facilities? 12:43:28 -!- socialite [n=piespy@dynamic-78-8-12-119.ssp.dialog.net.pl] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 12:43:45 srfi-9 and srfi-57 don't seem to support that 12:48:10 socialite [n=piespy@dynamic-78-8-148-206.ssp.dialog.net.pl] has joined #scheme 13:16:44 Nshag [i=user@Mix-Orleans-106-2-244.w193-248.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #scheme 13:17:01 sepult [n=user@87.78.102.2] has joined #scheme 13:31:32 -!- pemleco [n=pemleco@bbwirelessgw1-ff98c300-194.dhcp.inet.fi] has quit [] 13:31:56 hkBst: for hidden fields, just don't export an accessor for that field? 13:32:45 roderic: but the constructor takes all fields as arguments... 13:33:03 sphex_ [n=nobody@modemcable185.138-56-74.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #scheme 13:33:26 -!- sphex [n=nobody@modemcable185.138-56-74.mc.videotron.ca] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 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missing 19:12:29 http://www.eecs.berkeley.edu/~bh/simply-toc.html ? 19:14:07 http://www.cs.berkeley.edu/~bh/ss-toc2.html 19:16:07 this book is interesting.. 19:16:09 Exercises 19:16:09 1.1 Do 20 push-ups. 19:19:48 I find after I do some push-ups, my code is clearer 19:19:58 crap, that actually came out sounding plausible 19:20:00 nix nix nix 19:20:07 1.2 Drink a fifth of vodka 19:24:10 -!- demanotto [n=demanott@KD210230163150.ec-userreverse.dion.ne.jp] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 19:27:46 incubot: that sounds difficult. How much time am I allotted? 19:27:49 Sorry, I couldn't evaluate your expression in the allotted time. 19:29:59 lol 19:40:15 gfb [i=80640586@gateway/web/freenode/x-52e97b5b4bd8226e] has joined #scheme 19:41:37 sudo /usr/local/sbin/privoxy /usr/local/etc/privoxy/config 19:41:48 fnord123_ [n=fnord123@host81-159-237-125.range81-159.btcentralplus.com] has joined #scheme 19:42:02 filter them ads 19:42:55 lde [n=user@184-dzi-2.acn.waw.pl] has joined #scheme 19:43:01 whoops 19:43:22 jonrafkind: i thought you were joking about the pushups at first; now i wonder why they didn't proscribe pullups 19:43:26 -!- sepult [n=user@xdsl-87-78-25-4.netcologne.de] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 19:43:29 more hardware required, i guess 19:43:43 life is to short to joke around. scheme is serious business 19:43:59 i'm more alarmed by "calculate 1000 factorial by hand" 19:44:03 haha yea 19:44:38 sepult [n=user@xdsl-87-78-25-4.netcologne.de] has joined #scheme 19:47:23 -!- sepult 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