00:00:15 -!- noamsml [n=quassel@adsl-75-45-249-116.dsl.sfldmi.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)] 00:00:37 -!- vixey [n=yoo@amcant.demon.co.uk] has quit ["Quitting!"] 00:02:09 noamsml [n=quassel@adsl-75-45-249-116.dsl.sfldmi.sbcglobal.net] has joined #scheme 00:13:43 does anyone have a link for yanni's bigloo port? google isn't helping much 00:18:57 oh, I see. yannis, not yanni 00:19:52 yanni probably has better hair 00:21:16 -!- noamsml [n=quassel@adsl-75-45-249-116.dsl.sfldmi.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 00:21:59 -!- jwh335 [n=will@adsl-240-36-235.jan.bellsouth.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 00:22:22 -!- athos [n=philipp@92.250.250.68] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 00:25:23 jwh335 [n=will@adsl-240-36-235.jan.bellsouth.net] has joined #scheme 00:25:46 undoubtedly 00:29:35 -!- Edico [n=Edico@unaffiliated/edico] has quit ["Leaving"] 00:30:47 eli? 00:30:57 mike [n=m@dslb-088-064-156-130.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #scheme 00:31:09 -!- jao [i=jao@dhcp-18-190-55-103.dyn.mit.edu] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 00:31:25 -!- mike is now known as Guest93224 00:31:31 neilv: yes? 00:32:46 eli: if i want to start a discussion about changing xexprs, should i wait til after 4.1.5 release, or can i do it now? 00:33:30 i don't want to mention it when people are too preoccupied to think about it and make decisions 00:34:25 The work is over. (There's only some annoying problem I have, but nobody else is doing anything.) 00:34:57 ok, thanks 00:39:48 So I am taking a little poll. Right now, I have my Scribbler robots API that requires loading system specific code for each different platform. In order to facilitate this, I have a sys directory which contains relavant files in a certain naming convention, and I use macros to INCLUDE these files at compile/expand time into the right places automatically depending on the system. Good? Bad? 00:40:04 Right now, I have the advantage of not requiring any Makefiles to build the system. 00:40:13 I just (COMPILE-FILE "scribbler"). 00:40:36 Any detractors? 00:42:25 -!- bsmntbombdood [n=gavin@97-118-125-166.hlrn.qwest.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 00:42:44 what's a scribbler robot? 00:43:28 hkBst: , I am the "official" maintainer/developer of the Scheme API written for IU. :-) 00:43:36 bsmntbombdood [n=gavin@97-118-125-166.hlrn.qwest.net] has joined #scheme 00:43:45 The actual API was written in Python, I wrote a Scheme API last semester. 00:44:31 It's basically a two and one-half wheeled, blue robot that runs around with sensors on it designed for introductory programming classes. 00:45:48 -!- Guest93224 [n=m@dslb-088-064-156-130.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit ["This computer has gone to sleep"] 00:45:59 education is only part of the solution. i run an after-school program for at-risk robots 00:46:23 neilv: I should send these guys to you, they are most certainly at risk. 00:49:22 boston has the blue man group. they would be very suspicious that their jobs might be taken over by blue robots 00:51:49 Lemonator [n=kniu@DA-YU.RES.CMU.EDU] has joined #scheme 00:52:02 -!- RageOfThou [n=RageOfTh@92.36.159.0] has quit [Read error: 101 (Network is unreachable)] 00:54:04 not_noamsml [n=quassel@adsl-75-45-249-116.dsl.sfldmi.sbcglobal.net] has joined #scheme 00:59:09 -!- kniu [n=kniu@CMU-326910.WV.CC.CMU.EDU] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 01:00:04 -!- not_noamsml [n=quassel@adsl-75-45-249-116.dsl.sfldmi.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Client Quit] 01:00:30 not_noamsml [n=quassel@adsl-75-45-249-116.dsl.sfldmi.sbcglobal.net] has joined #scheme 01:00:49 -!- not_noamsml [n=quassel@adsl-75-45-249-116.dsl.sfldmi.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 01:03:18 not_noamsml [n=quassel@adsl-75-45-249-116.dsl.sfldmi.sbcglobal.net] has joined #scheme 01:05:02 benny` [n=benny@i577A0809.versanet.de] has joined #scheme 01:05:53 -!- sreeram [n=sreeram@122.164.213.204] has quit [] 01:06:32 -!- benny [n=benny@i577A077B.versanet.de] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 01:10:03 kilimanj4ro [n=kilimanj@70.116.95.163] has joined #scheme 01:15:15 -!- not_noamsml [n=quassel@adsl-75-45-249-116.dsl.sfldmi.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 01:17:25 johnnowak has been busy on reddit 01:19:38 not_noamsml [n=quassel@adsl-75-45-249-116.dsl.sfldmi.sbcglobal.net] has joined #scheme 01:29:52 -!- JoelMcCracken [n=joelmccr@pool-96-236-231-39.pitbpa.east.verizon.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 01:30:05 can drscheme handle other lisps like sbcl ? 01:30:37 emma: SBCL is an implementation of Common Lisp 01:31:14 DrScheme doesn't have a Common Lisp language - all of the DrScheme languages are Lisp-1's closely related to Scheme. 01:32:03 foof: okay 01:32:05 -!- not_noamsml [n=quassel@adsl-75-45-249-116.dsl.sfldmi.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 01:32:17 -!- Lemonator [n=kniu@DA-YU.RES.CMU.EDU] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 01:32:20 drscheme has swindle, which adds lots of cl-like features to scheme 01:32:41 there's also things like a front-end to acl2 in drscheme 01:32:42 Yeah I knew SBCL was not scheme. I just like how Dr Scheme gives you such a nice REPL and editor in one. 01:32:47 Lemonator [n=kniu@128.237.235.152] has joined #scheme 01:32:47 *eli* wonders how close Algol60 and Java are to Scheme 01:35:07 if you want to do cl development, most people will tell you to use slime as your front-end 01:36:11 orgy_ [n=ratm_@pD9FFCABA.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #scheme 01:36:37 Has anyone managed to make an updated SLIME for any Scheme? 01:37:18 i'm planning the successor to quack, and considering slime. but it might get in the way more than it helps 01:37:47 neilv: Is this for PLT? 01:38:09 it will be for all schemes, but plt will be the initial testbed 01:39:35 there will also be a fallback to r5rs language rules and comint-based repl, so it will work as well as quack even if your scheme doesn't have the fancy support yet 01:41:37 Hrm. 01:45:56 -!- benny` is now known as benny 01:52:13 -!- hkBst [n=hkBst@gentoo/developer/hkbst] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 01:52:57 -!- orgy` [n=ratm_@pD9FFBC93.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 101 (Network is unreachable)] 01:57:41 -!- X-Scale [i=email@2001:470:1f08:b3d:0:0:0:2] has left #scheme 02:00:01 k 02:08:28 sepult_ [n=buggarag@xdsl-87-78-152-33.netcologne.de] has joined #scheme 02:12:22 benny` [n=benny@i577A0809.versanet.de] has joined #scheme 02:13:06 -!- benny [n=benny@i577A0809.versanet.de] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 02:17:57 > Banquet at the Hyatt-Regency, with special entertainment 02:18:36 why am i fearing this involves a burlesque show by bearded lisp hackers in drag? 02:18:51 -!- orgy_ [n=ratm_@pD9FFCABA.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Client Quit] 02:20:55 maybe because it's happened before? dunno 02:21:11 well, maybe not in drag, but you get the idea 02:24:03 -!- sepult [n=buggarag@xdsl-87-78-153-130.netcologne.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 02:26:26 -!- deat [n=deat@fac34-8-88-172-174-215.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 02:31:54 -!- Lemonator [n=kniu@128.237.235.152] has quit ["Leaving"] 02:32:16 kniu [n=kniu@CMU-327388.WV.CC.CMU.EDU] has joined #scheme 02:36:43 -!- elias` [n=me@unaffiliated/elias/x-342423] has quit [Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)] 02:37:23 -!- cipher [n=cipher@pool-173-48-136-239.bstnma.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 02:40:24 -!- Cale [n=Cale@CPE001c10c70239-CM000e5cdd834a.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit ["Leaving"] 02:44:11 Cale [n=Cale@CPE001c10c70239-CM000e5cdd834a.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #scheme 02:48:26 breily [n=breily@c-69-243-18-122.hsd1.va.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 02:50:47 -!- kniu [n=kniu@CMU-327388.WV.CC.CMU.EDU] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 02:53:24 kniu [n=kniu@OCEANSPRAY.ANDREW.CMU.EDU] has joined #scheme 03:15:13 synx: ping 03:15:43 eli: pong 03:18:11 synx: I'm trying to send you a private message, you're not replying. 03:19:12 synx: ping 03:23:07 -!- Def [n=joe@71.238.45.45] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 03:23:12 Def [n=joe@71.238.45.45] has joined #scheme 03:24:21 incubot: ping 03:24:24 You have been mentioning ping for awhile. 03:25:17 sorry eli, my ttl sucks 03:29:03 Deformative [n=joe@71.238.45.45] has joined #scheme 03:29:32 -!- Def [n=joe@71.238.45.45] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 03:29:33 -!- hark [n=strider@hark.slew.org] has quit ["leaving"] 03:44:53 -!- thom_logn [n=thom@pool-96-229-99-100.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 03:45:01 -!- benny` is now known as benny 03:56:49 Qsquare [n=user@208.75.91.170] has joined #scheme 04:00:56 -!- Quetzalcoatl_ [n=godless@cpe-71-72-235-91.cinci.res.rr.com] has quit ["Leaving"] 04:14:43 wy [n=wy@c-98-228-40-51.hsd1.in.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 04:18:14 -!- breily [n=breily@c-69-243-18-122.hsd1.va.comcast.net] has quit [] 04:21:53 -!- mejja [n=user@c-4bb5e555.023-82-73746f38.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 04:27:10 MichaelRaskin_ [n=raskin@gwh-1-177-mytn23k1.ln.rinet.ru] has joined #scheme 04:28:04 jlongster [n=user@c-68-59-187-95.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 04:30:09 -!- subversus [i=elliot@loveturtle.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 04:35:34 -!- kilimanj4ro [n=kilimanj@70.116.95.163] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 04:35:42 -!- kilimanjaro [n=kilimanj@70.116.95.163] has quit ["Leaving"] 04:36:01 subversus [i=elliot@loveturtle.net] has joined #scheme 04:38:19 incubot: "it's a small world" sacrificed contrapunctal rigour for product tie-ins 04:38:21 -!- proqesi [n=user@unaffiliated/proqesi] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 04:38:22 Spivak's Calculus. I was wanting something that would go into the proofs and rigour instead of just how to do it, and C5 reccommended it. 04:40:49 proqesi [n=user@unaffiliated/proqesi] has joined #scheme 04:47:28 wait... plt's web server isn't HTTP/1.1? 04:48:08 reprore_ [n=reprore@EM114-48-145-212.pool.e-mobile.ne.jp] has joined #scheme 04:48:47 No that can't be right. It says HTTP/1.1 right here. 04:50:11 breily [n=breily@c-69-243-18-122.hsd1.va.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 04:51:44 npe [n=npe@p1136-ipbf06wakayama.wakayama.ocn.ne.jp] has joined #scheme 04:54:36 *Elly* watches (require (planet schematics/schemeunit:3)) take a while 04:55:14 is there a way to get PLT not to build documentation when doing this? 05:03:02 -!- arcfide [n=arcfide@adsl-99-186-239-125.dsl.bltnin.sbcglobal.net] has quit ["Sleep"] 05:03:44 Elly: Good idea, I think, post to the list... 05:06:16 where's the list? :P 05:06:56 The mailing list. 05:07:05 http://plt-scheme.org/maillist/ 05:08:56 *Elly* subscribes 05:11:54 Catnappa [n=agsdgi@c-24-1-168-169.hsd1.in.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 05:43:43 -!- reprore_ [n=reprore@EM114-48-145-212.pool.e-mobile.ne.jp] has quit [Client Quit] 05:48:06 -!- neilv [n=user@dsl092-071-030.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 05:58:17 sreeram [n=sreeram@122.164.213.204] has joined #scheme 06:07:47 -!- ASau [n=user@193.138.70.52] has quit [Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)] 06:08:43 -!- meanburrito920_ [n=John@adsl-76-246-189-31.dsl.lsan03.sbcglobal.net] has quit ["has been attacked by a grue"] 06:16:30 -!- Catnappa [n=agsdgi@c-24-1-168-169.hsd1.in.comcast.net] has quit [] 06:26:28 -!- kniu [n=kniu@OCEANSPRAY.ANDREW.CMU.EDU] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 06:27:05 kniu [n=kniu@OLAWDYME.RES.CMU.EDU] has joined #scheme 06:27:59 wy_ [i=wy@iub-vpn-195-247.noc.indiana.edu] has joined #scheme 06:31:03 jso [n=user@151.159.200.8] has joined #scheme 06:32:56 hey. there's got to be an easier way than this whole mark-antimark BS to implement syntax-case right? 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The symbol table is already sensitive to case -- two names differing in case cannot identify the same symbol. 15:50:39 Riastradh: the variable in my own program 15:50:57 -!- Adamant [n=Adamant@unaffiliated/adamant] has quit [Client Quit] 15:50:57 -!- flazz [n=franco@qubes.org] has left #scheme 15:50:59 flazz [n=franco@qubes.org] has joined #scheme 15:51:02 variable names* 15:51:56 Those are named by symbols, which, as I said, are sensitive to case. If you try to evaluate, say, `(LET ((FOOBAR 5)) ,(string->symbol "foObAr")), you will probably encounter an undefined variable error. 15:53:17 Riastradh: the thing is when I try to run my program in scheme48 it complains of trying to apply 0 as a function. This is because n is a variable that runs from 0 to (N). Where N is a function that returns some constant. 15:53:54 That's because you gave two variables the same name, and one shadowed the other. 15:54:38 only if variable names are case insensitive which is exactly why I want to disable that 15:55:31 Try this: (eval `(LET ((FOOBAR 5)) ,(string->symbol "foObAr")) (scheme-report-environment 5)) 15:55:43 As you can see, variables are identified by symbols, whose names are sensitive to case. 15:57:38 Maybe what you really want is for the *reader* to preserve the case of symbols, rather than folding case as it currently does. 15:57:51 Riastradh: maybe there's something that allows that to work, try (eq? 'a 'A) 15:58:01 s/something/some bug/ 15:58:09 No, try (EQ? (STRING->SYMBOL "a") (STRING->SYMBOL "A")). 15:58:12 There's no bug. 15:58:23 the reader upcases things when it reads them 15:58:25 This is precisely what the relevant standards require. 15:58:29 No, vixey. 15:58:34 Not necessarily. 15:58:51 either way, it doesn't help me, scheme48 does not distinguish my variables which differ only by case 15:59:02 Why did you write code that is broken, then? 16:00:06 Is it because you were using Scheme systems that deviate in unfortunate ways from the standard? 16:00:22 Riastradh: just because I use a different convention does not make my code broken. 16:01:30 Yes, it does: your code causes 0 to be applied as if it were a procedure. 16:01:43 different standards say different things and r5rs but with case sensitivity seems quite portable 16:01:51 No, it isn't. 16:02:03 portable enough to run in gambit, larceny, gauche and mzscheme so far 16:02:38 Sorry, correction: case sensitivity is portable, yes. But the R5RS, the R4RS, probably the R3RS, and the IEEE standard, all specify that the reader folds case. 16:03:00 Those implementations do not attempt to implement these reports/standards. 16:03:20 (There is probably some way to persuade PLT Scheme to do this, actually.) 16:06:35 -!- [mark] [n=mark@unaffiliated/mark/x-957811] has quit ["Leaving"] 16:06:48 -!- [[[mark]]] [n=mark@60.53.211.179] has quit ["Leaving"] 16:07:49 I already made PLT do it, with help from eli 16:08:34 So if you want to run your code in implementations of the R5RS or of the IEEE standard, why don't you fix it? 16:08:53 Your code is much easier to change than the standards... 16:09:55 -!- Poeir [n=Poeir@c-98-222-133-165.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 16:10:19 Riastradh: I might, but I much prefer case sensitivity and it is simple for implementations to allow to change this part of the standard as almost all do 16:10:32 -!- Ragnaroek [i=54a669f1@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-30b94bb837e08a19] has quit ["http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client"] 16:10:42 You already have case sensitivity, as I said. 16:10:50 actually case sensitive seems to be the default for most implementations 16:10:56 Indeed it is. 16:11:07 Riastradh: I don't understand your word game. 16:11:08 I don't know of any Scheme system in which symbols are not named case-sensitively. 16:11:21 You want to change the behaviour of the reader so that it preserves case, rather than folding case. 16:11:56 I could imagine a Scheme system in which symbols are named case-insensitively but the reader preserves case. I don't think any such system exists, though. 16:13:25 well, non-case folding readers seem to be the default in most cases too 16:13:59 That wouldn't be R5RS, though, would it? 16:14:00 There are a few that have unfortunately chosen to deviate from the standard in this respect. This makes it hard, as you can see, to write portable code. 16:14:20 Fortunately, most of them can be put into modes that are not so deviant from the standard. 16:14:25 In Gambit, I think you can pass `-:s'. 16:14:36 Chicken has another similar flag. 16:16:10 Generally, I find that Scheme48 is the easiest system on which to develop portable programs. 16:16:44 because it is the most inflexible? 16:17:52 No, because it requires any non-portable dependencies to be made clear. It also checks for errors such as mutation of literals, which on some systems may pass quietly, and on others may yield segfaults. 16:21:02 -!- RageOfThou [n=RageOfTh@92.36.141.24] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 16:21:16 RageOfThou [n=RageOfTh@92.36.141.24] has joined #scheme 16:27:22 Riastradh: what is the point of having the reader case-fold but symbol comparison not being case insensitive? 16:32:57 it seems weirdly inconsistent 16:38:44 MrFahrenheit [n=RageOfTh@92.36.216.220] has joined #scheme 16:45:56 -!- araujo [n=araujo@gentoo/developer/araujo] has quit ["Leaving"] 16:46:07 jonrafkind [n=jon@pool-71-243-21-118.bos.east.verizon.net] has joined #scheme 16:49:49 arphid [n=matt@69.162.118.230] has joined #scheme 16:55:32 -!- RageOfThou [n=RageOfTh@92.36.141.24] has quit [Read error: 101 (Network is unreachable)] 16:59:01 -!- jewel_ is now known as jewel 16:59:38 aaco [n=aaco@unaffiliated/aaco] has joined #scheme 17:24:47 -!- bsmntbombdood [n=gavin@97-118-125-166.hlrn.qwest.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 17:25:16 bsmntbombdood [n=gavin@97-118-125-166.hlrn.qwest.net] has joined #scheme 17:41:30 ejs [n=eugen@86-71-179-94.pool.ukrtel.net] has joined #scheme 17:50:45 Poeir [n=Poeir@c-98-222-133-165.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 17:51:44 wingo-tp [n=wingo@dhcp-18-190-26-53.dyn.mit.edu] has joined #scheme 17:57:26 -!- reprore [n=reprore@ntkngw304058.kngw.nt.ftth.ppp.infoweb.ne.jp] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 17:57:35 reprore [n=reprore@ntkngw304058.kngw.nt.ftth.ppp.infoweb.ne.jp] has joined #scheme 18:00:00 -!- deat [n=deat@fac34-8-88-172-174-215.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [] 18:00:01 nan8 [n=user@dslb-088-065-170-100.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #scheme 18:01:06 choas [n=lars@p5B0DF79E.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #scheme 18:08:38 so, a connection pool... 18:09:38 -!- reprore [n=reprore@ntkngw304058.kngw.nt.ftth.ppp.infoweb.ne.jp] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 18:09:40 reprore__ [n=reprore@ntkngw304058.kngw.nt.ftth.ppp.infoweb.ne.jp] has joined #scheme 18:09:51 breily [n=breily@c-69-243-18-122.hsd1.va.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 18:12:17 you call a procedure for a host/port it gives you a connection. you return the connection when you're done. 18:13:36 there is one thread that creates the connections. it waits for someone to request a given host/port pair, then either recycles a previous connection to that pair, or makes a new one. 18:13:51 then returns it to the place that requested. 18:14:14 It's that last part I'm having trouble with. 18:16:45 guess I could lock a semaphore between putting the host/port and getting the connection. 18:18:28 wp:kane (badn) 18:18:45 woops 18:19:28 neilv [n=user@dsl092-071-030.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net] has joined #scheme 18:20:34 jgracin [n=jgracin@82.193.210.126] has joined #scheme 18:20:52 if two threads both want connections from the same host/port they won't need to get the exact response, only one of them. yeah so a return channel per destination. 18:23:12 ecraven [n=nex@140.78.42.103] has joined #scheme 18:27:44 but then there's timeouts to consider hm... 18:31:10 > scheme/numspell/compiled/info_ss.zo:1:0: read (compiled): code compiled for version 4.1.4, not 4.1.5 18:31:22 gasp 18:31:50 -!- ejs [n=eugen@86-71-179-94.pool.ukrtel.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 18:35:56 -!- kniu [n=kniu@OLAWDYME.RES.CMU.EDU] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 18:36:18 kniu [n=kniu@OLAWDYME.RES.CMU.EDU] has joined #scheme 18:36:32 how did i get a ~/.plt-scheme/4.1.4/doc , and how to i get one for 4.1.5? 18:39:14 leppie [n=lolcow@196.210.200.235] has joined #scheme 18:40:35 Adamant [n=Adamant@c-76-29-188-22.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 18:42:00 -!- Adamant [n=Adamant@unaffiliated/adamant] has quit [Client Quit] 18:43:18 -!- jonrafkind [n=jon@pool-71-243-21-118.bos.east.verizon.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 18:43:21 ejs [n=eugen@86-71-179-94.pool.ukrtel.net] has joined #scheme 18:50:19 reprore [n=reprore@ntkngw304058.kngw.nt.ftth.ppp.infoweb.ne.jp] has joined #scheme 18:50:25 -!- reprore__ [n=reprore@ntkngw304058.kngw.nt.ftth.ppp.infoweb.ne.jp] has quit [Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)] 18:53:11 -!- wingo-tp [n=wingo@dhcp-18-190-26-53.dyn.mit.edu] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 18:59:47 jwh335 [n=will@adsl-240-37-7.jan.bellsouth.net] has joined #scheme 19:05:57 no clue neilv, but just mzc all the files in scheme/numspell and it'll probably work again. 19:07:12 deat [n=deat@fac34-8-88-172-174-215.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #scheme 19:10:41 -!- deat [n=deat@fac34-8-88-172-174-215.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Client Quit] 19:12:27 -!- mreggen [n=mreggen@cm-84.215.50.79.getinternet.no] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 19:14:27 i wonder who's in town already for ilc 19:15:15 i have to skip it this year. made the mistake of paying off all my old grad school-ish debt, and then had nothing left for some unexpected expenses that came up 19:16:25 -!- nan8 [n=user@dslb-088-065-170-100.pools.arcor-ip.net] has left #scheme 19:18:38 i will probably drop by the lobby at some point to say hi to people 19:19:07 -!- aaco [n=aaco@unaffiliated/aaco] has quit ["Leaving"] 19:20:04 I have trouble believing that it's a mistake to pay off one's debt 19:20:07 dzhus [n=sphinx@95-24-163-78.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #scheme 19:21:32 Well, you might have better uses for the money and an easier way to pay later 19:21:39 As shifty as it sounds 19:22:14 Depends on the creditor of course 19:22:35 They say that if you've lived your life well you'll die as heavily in debt as possible. 19:22:52 now you tell me :) 19:23:01 bbl 19:23:01 -!- neilv [n=user@dsl092-071-030.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 19:24:54 mreggen [n=mreggen@cm-84.215.50.79.getinternet.no] has joined #scheme 19:28:44 -!- ejs [n=eugen@86-71-179-94.pool.ukrtel.net] has quit ["This computer has gone to sleep"] 19:31:43 -!- hadronzoo_ [n=hadronzo@ppp-70-250-176-131.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 19:39:43 hadronzoo [n=hadronzo@ppp-70-250-191-163.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has joined #scheme 19:43:36 -!- breily [n=breily@c-69-243-18-122.hsd1.va.comcast.net] has quit [] 19:44:15 I'm hoping for breathless, gossip-column style coverage of the ILC here. If only we had *boldface*. 19:44:29 Or `boldface'. Or BOLDFACE. 19:49:00 The "they" in "They say that if you've lived your life well you'll die as heavily in debt as possible" are obviously not the people who are left behind to pay these debts. 19:50:44 eli: I'm not convinced those people exist. :3 19:51:15 Who? People who pay off your debt? Given the nature of money, they *always* exist. 19:51:43 Yeah but I'll be 6 feet under and won't care less :> 19:52:28 A more accurate statement is that you're *currently* not living your life as well as you could because until you die, you *are* part of these people. 19:52:57 I don't know about that, but... 19:53:13 The fallacy is in that your quality of life will degrade in the present time if you owe a clean 6 mil to the Yakuza. 19:53:37 eli: yhbt, hand 19:53:47 So being in debt is not just harmful for the future. 19:54:55 But they like to say it's easy to be in debt, because when "they" pay off all their debts and you're stuck in debt slavery by following their advice, they get to cash in on it. >:3 19:56:15 -!- dzhus [n=sphinx@95-24-163-78.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 19:59:37 athos [n=philipp@92.250.250.68] has joined #scheme 19:59:48 FunkyDrummer [n=RageOfTh@92.36.197.240] has joined #scheme 20:03:38 wingo-tp [n=wingo@dhcp-18-190-26-53.dyn.mit.edu] has joined #scheme 20:06:21 synx: I think that's a fascinating idea; I think you should write it up as an essay, article, or even a book; and I'd be happy to lend you enough money to pay your bills while you write. 20:07:27 offby1: wow thanks that's a--heeeeeey 20:11:15 nan8 [n=user@dslb-088-065-170-100.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #scheme 20:11:27 -!- SweetwaterDixon [n=user@210.48.104.34] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 20:11:33 if you owe the yakuza 6 million and can't pay, you're in trouble; if you owe the yakuza 600 million and can't pay, they're in troube. 20:11:41 Arelius [n=Indy@netblock-68-183-230-134.dslextreme.com] has joined #scheme 20:12:05 i am looking for a json parser written in scheme, any links? 20:12:37 json.org has links to many implementations 20:12:47 _Pb [n=Pb@75.139.140.101] has joined #scheme 20:12:52 in particular, look under "Lisp" 20:13:14 bpalmer: thanks (don't know how i missed them) 20:14:22 ah i think the problem was they all were not easily portable, specifically i am looking for one usable with gauche without too much hassle 20:16:26 -!- MrFahrenheit [n=RageOfTh@92.36.216.220] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 20:17:19 (and really nice would be a solution with lossless roundtrip xml->sxml->s-expr->json->xml) 20:18:29 maybe the plt version should work 20:18:51 -!- puchacz [n=puchacz@87-194-5-99.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 20:21:10 -!- _Pb [n=Pb@75.139.140.101] has left #scheme 20:21:26 -!- reprore [n=reprore@ntkngw304058.kngw.nt.ftth.ppp.infoweb.ne.jp] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 20:21:56 reprore [n=reprore@ntkngw304058.kngw.nt.ftth.ppp.infoweb.ne.jp] has joined #scheme 20:24:58 breily [n=breily@c-69-243-18-122.hsd1.va.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 20:26:58 -!- ffx` [n=ffx@60-241-74-240.static.tpgi.com.au] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 20:32:23 ah - thats just no fun 20:32:54 drizzd [n=drizzd@80.123.242.182] has joined #scheme 20:33:52 Cowmoo [n=Cowmoo@c-98-218-214-24.hsd1.va.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 20:34:54 -!- wingo-tp [n=wingo@dhcp-18-190-26-53.dyn.mit.edu] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 20:35:26 hmm there is a xslt stylesheet to convert xml to json 20:35:52 cool, lets skip scheme all together :) 20:36:27 leppie: well i am just looking for a simple way ... 20:37:17 *nan8* did not invent 100 file formats to represent a tree 20:38:06 all i know sexpr and xml is a good pair 20:38:19 havent dealt much with json 20:38:31 are you using to save 'space'? 20:38:43 leppie: thats why i now thought: i can create xml => i can use that xslt styleshett to produce json 20:38:59 leppie: now i just need something producing xml from json 20:39:15 leppie: no it is just for fun - nthing serious 20:39:38 leppie: it is just json is hipp => i often want to read/write json 20:39:58 Using an xslt stylesheet is a pretty difficult task in of itself. 20:40:11 that's the last thing i would do, but that just me :) 20:41:50 synx: xsltproc 20:43:07 for json2xml some javascript will do 20:44:11 -!- Cowmoo [n=Cowmoo@c-98-218-214-24.hsd1.va.comcast.net] has left #scheme 20:44:28 beware: evalling the json in javascript is a potential security problem. 20:44:43 so the much-touted "trivial javascript parser" is usually something to avoid. 20:45:27 bpalmer: well yes, but in the end my whole approach at the moment is crap 20:46:42 -!- Guest17083 [n=m@dslb-088-066-239-055.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit ["This computer has gone to sleep"] 20:47:22 -!- reprore [n=reprore@ntkngw304058.kngw.nt.ftth.ppp.infoweb.ne.jp] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 20:53:47 -!- jwh335 [n=will@adsl-240-37-7.jan.bellsouth.net] has quit ["Leaving."] 20:55:50 jwh335 [n=will@adsl-240-37-7.jan.bellsouth.net] has joined #scheme 20:57:18 -!- FunkyDrummer [n=RageOfTh@92.36.197.240] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 20:57:26 -!- jwh335 [n=will@adsl-240-37-7.jan.bellsouth.net] has quit [Client Quit] 21:00:07 -!- breily [n=breily@c-69-243-18-122.hsd1.va.comcast.net] has quit [] 21:05:22 MrFahrenheit [n=RageOfTh@92.36.191.77] has joined #scheme 21:24:20 -!- nan8 [n=user@dslb-088-065-170-100.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 21:28:02 -!- hadronzoo [n=hadronzo@ppp-70-250-191-163.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has quit [] 21:33:23 does javascript not have the equivalent of "read"? 21:35:11 no 21:35:22 it's got eval though 21:36:27 wingo-tp [n=wingo@dhcp-18-190-26-53.dyn.mit.edu] has joined #scheme 21:37:48 jcowan [n=jcowan@72.14.228.89] has joined #scheme 21:41:44 *jcowan* unvanishes 21:45:44 Adamant [n=Adamant@c-76-29-188-22.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 21:46:02 -!- luz [n=davids@189.60.54.152] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 21:46:12 -!- Adamant [n=Adamant@unaffiliated/adamant] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 21:46:37 Adamant [n=Adamant@c-76-29-188-22.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 21:46:43 neilv [n=user@dsl092-071-030.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net] has joined #scheme 21:47:11 those who cannot remember lisp are doomed to reinvent it 21:47:32 Indeed, those who cannot remember LISP 1.5 are doomed to reinvent it, too. 21:47:45 *vixey* wonders what LISP 1.5 is 21:48:13 And likewise with the row-major algorithm for computing a single subscript from multiple subscripts. 21:48:18 I just had to reinvent it. 21:48:39 Indeed, I found several books on Google Books that described it, but -- maddeningly -- on an unviewable page. 21:48:44 is that an algorithm? 21:49:05 Indeed. 21:49:56 i guess, if the count of dimensions varies? 21:50:27 index = row * width + column 21:50:36 Varies, in the sense that you want to apply the same algorithm no matter how many dimensions there are (though 0 is still a special case) 21:50:59 That's row major form I'm pretty sure. 21:51:08 been a few years 21:51:31 Don't think it's all that complicated a concept. Maybe I'm remembering the wrong thing. 21:51:40 If they have books about it I mean. 21:51:52 I read it in a book. Like, 2 pages though. 21:52:04 a compilers book will mention that's how you lay out multidimensional arrays in memory 21:52:28 An imperative version: result = subscripts[0]; for i in (1..length(shape) - 1) { result *= shape[i]; result += subscripts[i] } 21:53:20 where shape is an array of the number of elements in each dimension, subscripts is the subscripts (also an array), and everything is 0-based. 21:53:33 postgresql's variable array binary format is a multi-dimensional row major sort of thing. It's neat. 21:54:13 *jcowan* decides to Break With Tradition and implement symbol property lists as an a-list. 21:55:56 slom [n=slom@pD9EB59A0.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #scheme 21:57:53 -!- wingo-tp [n=wingo@dhcp-18-190-26-53.dyn.mit.edu] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 21:58:46 ever since I upgraded PLT scheme to a recent trunk, it seems every time I run a program it has to spend 10 minutes building unrelated documentation. 21:58:56 grr, in case I didn't make it clear 21:59:10 wow that's not good offby1 22:00:17 offby1: use more make jobs. 22:00:34 Though... You have to fix PLT build system to do so. 22:01:17 perhaps my sin is running from svn 22:01:35 Fixing the makefiles to work with -j wouldn't help, the documentation build happens in setup-plt. 22:01:53 ASau: Also, see my reply yesterday to your website complaints. 22:04:10 eli: I've lost them, but at first sight they looked reduced to irrelevant things, like "we have mirrors". 22:04:23 If you still have them, repeat, please. 22:04:33 chaoslynx [n=cpehle@p57A771D6.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #scheme 22:05:35 eli: so I'm running trunk r14187, and it seems every time I run a program,it spends ten minutes doing... something. Building docs, I suspect, but I'm not really sure. Any idea what it's up to, and why? 22:05:42 at startup 22:05:50 -!- Nshag [n=shagoune@Mix-Orleans-106-2-104.w193-248.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit ["Quitte"] 22:05:59 At least it's spending 10min doing something useful 22:06:12 it'd be useful if it hadn't already done it. 22:06:22 when I built PLT itself. 22:09:00 brweber2 [n=brweber2@ip68-100-65-167.dc.dc.cox.net] has joined #scheme 22:09:07 offby1: I don't know. 22:09:24 ASau: (a) The Northeastern directory three does have index files; (b) index files don't make the hierarchy any more real than other links. 22:09:30 ASau: (c) the plt tree is also available is ftp and rsync form -- I've made that known several time yet the demand for this (except for mirror maintainers) has been (in all my PLT years) absolutely zero. 22:09:35 ASau: so given that you're the first one ever to complain about this, I hardly see it as "don't understand what are needs of real users and developers". 22:09:40 ASau: And just in case you really did want links instead of pointless flaming: http://download.plt-scheme.org/bundles/, ftp://download.plt-scheme.org/pub/plt/bundles/, rsync://download.plt-scheme.org/plt-bundles/. 22:10:03 Thanks. 22:10:14 This closes the question. 22:10:40 Almost, since it is hard to find that URL by navigation. :( 22:11:11 BTW, if you hav a list of mirrors anywhere, it would be nice to see it too. 22:11:35 ASau: It's hard to find it by navigation only due to the overwhelming lack of general interest. 22:11:54 Maybe it is simply unspoken. 22:12:15 In fact, those three links are from the email I'm sending to the mirror maintainers on every release, and even most of them don't really care (since they setup something automatic). 22:12:36 Feel free to raise it on the mailing list -- it's very easy to dump them on a web page somewhere. 22:13:21 -!- Judofyr [n=Judofyr@c349BBF51.dhcp.bluecom.no] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 22:13:29 Oh, and BTW, I agree that the lack of index pages on the chicago mirror is annoying -- I'm so used to having apache indexes enabled that it surprised me to see a place that forbids them. 22:13:40 As for the mirror list, give me 30s. 22:14:36 http://download.plt-scheme.org/bundles/ is the main place. 22:15:18 The current mirrors are: http://www.eecs.northwestern.edu/plt-scheme/, http://www.cs.utah.edu/plt/download/, http://mirror.informatik.uni-tuebingen.de/mirror/plt/, ftp://infogroep.be/pub/plt/bundles/, http://gd.tuwien.ac.at/languages/scheme/plt/, http://russell.cs.bilgi.edu.tr/plt-bundles/ 22:15:21 luz [n=davids@189.60.54.152] has joined #scheme 22:16:04 The list of mirrors could be extracted from any download page though. There's no smart code that detects which files are available on which mirror. 22:17:08 -!- ecraven [n=nex@140.78.42.103] has quit ["bbl"] 22:18:31 This is of less importance as long as hierarchy is preserved. 22:18:57 mike [n=m@dslb-088-066-239-055.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #scheme 22:19:25 -!- mike is now known as Guest98819 22:20:55 The hierarchy is preserved -- like I said, the download pages basically put the path to the download file after each of these prefixes. 22:21:21 [Well, maybe "implied" instead of "said"...] 22:23:49 -!- jcowan [n=jcowan@72.14.228.89] has quit ["Leaving"] 22:31:31 jao [i=jao@dhcp-18-190-55-103.dyn.mit.edu] has joined #scheme 22:31:46 RageOfThou [n=RageOfTh@92.36.144.0] has joined #scheme 22:40:50 ffx` [n=ffx@60-241-74-240.static.tpgi.com.au] has joined #scheme 22:42:48 meanburrito920_ [n=John@adsl-76-222-109-63.dsl.lsan03.sbcglobal.net] has joined #scheme 22:47:20 -!- MrFahrenheit [n=RageOfTh@92.36.191.77] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 22:49:05 eli: btw PLT fails to compile with -O3 22:49:19 -!- drizzd [n=drizzd@80.123.242.182] has quit [Success] 22:49:45 hkBst: Ask on the list. 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