00:13:21 -!- athos [n=philipp@92.250.204.223] has quit ["leaving"] 00:18:42 so if I have this right, a higher order procedure could be one of 3 things: a procedure that takes a procedure as input. a procedure that produces a procedure as output, or a procedure that does both. is that right? 00:21:17 yes 00:21:29 k, thanks. 00:29:06 Arelius [n=Indy@netblock-68-183-230-134.dslextreme.com] has joined #scheme 00:31:23 incubot: HOP? 00:32:01 incubot: do you like using higher order procedures? 00:32:03 is the order of evaluation not left-to-right? 00:32:15 -!- a1len [n=James@unaffiliated/a1len] has quit ["Lost terminal"] 00:32:51 incubot: no, it's inside-to-outside. 00:32:53 But as Bulent Murtezaoglu pointed out once more, returning lambda's that use the variables in their definition scope, will not be able to use the variables in that scope again when you're using that lambda in the outside of its scope. 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[n=x@unaffiliated/hml] has quit ["leaving"] 05:48:12 well, i mean i could do other things, i just like to try to communicate with MPD when i try out new languages... and then it's neat to have it in a curses-based interface. 05:48:26 Ah. 05:48:29 one of those "things" that i think most of us have 05:49:48 kniu [n=kniu@DA-YU.RES.CMU.EDU] has joined #scheme 05:52:12 -!- JKGpp [n=juergen@dslb-088-065-196-020.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [] 05:53:36 nothingHappens_ [n=nothingH@12-226-78-3.client.mchsi.com] has joined #scheme 05:56:36 lumi_ [n=lumi@bzq-84-109-54-64.red.bezeqint.net] has joined #scheme 05:56:55 Hi 05:57:00 Hello 05:57:20 I have a "thing" for anagrams and word puzzles 05:58:27 I'm trying to learn some Scheme, so I got DrScheme, and I fixed a bug and added a feature to the Spider solitaire that came with it... 05:58:48 Does anyone care about this? 05:59:14 lumi_: I am sure that the people who wrote the game and the people who maintain that code will care about it. 06:00:53 lumi_: indeed. Send your patch to the PLT mailing list. 06:01:13 Man, I just said "indeed" 06:01:21 offby1: Indeed. 06:01:24 :) 06:01:24 *offby1* glares at Riastradh, corrupter of youth 06:02:07 benny [n=benny@i577A05E8.versanet.de] has joined #scheme 06:02:17 incubot: indeed! 06:02:19 The syntax is the main part of the "but" there, indeed. 06:02:31 incubot: Your butt looks big 06:02:33 when you do things that way you seem to end up with syntax that a lot of people think is butt-ugly 06:03:56 minion: more semantics 06:03:56 semantics me harder 06:04:28 ejs [n=eugen@77-109-25-245.dynamic.peoplenet.ua] has joined #scheme 06:05:02 rudybot: eval incubot? 06:05:02 offby1: ; Value: "A sly one, he is" 06:05:08 peter_12 [n=peter@S010600119506b129.gv.shawcable.net] has joined #scheme 06:07:34 incubot: how do you import libraries in scheme? 06:07:37 But that's clumsy to import. 06:07:46 i agree, tell me how we do it in scheme. 06:07:50 incubot: tell me! 06:07:52 later tell FoxFire The sisc shell script in 1.9.0.1-alpha is buggy. It does do nothing when no arguments are given but rlwrap is not in the path. You probably want to move the [ -x "`which rlwral`"] into the outer if there. Also, the documentation on the website is slightly outdated wrt. 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(SICP)" at http://paste.lisp.org/display/73471 07:17:49 ! 07:18:09 is that russian? 07:18:52 no, that was "terrific" transliterated :P 07:21:02 i wonder if `*-117' was meant to be recursively defined 07:21:48 -!- skorpan [n=lolman@wikipedia/skorpan] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 07:22:01 (also `halve' seems strange. and is really using `*' in `double-117' allowed ?) 07:22:13 jeremiah [n=jeremiah@31.Red-213-98-123.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #scheme 07:31:52 fschwidom [n=fschwido@dslb-088-069-167-050.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #scheme 07:34:45 -!- fschwidom [n=fschwido@dslb-088-069-167-050.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 07:36:25 -!- jeremiah [n=jeremiah@31.Red-213-98-123.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 07:49:01 ecraven [n=nex@140.78.42.103] has joined #scheme 07:52:50 jeremiah [n=jeremiah@31.Red-213-98-123.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #scheme 07:55:50 -!- a1len 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example 13:58:47 Most schemes will have some way of getting at core POSIX APIs 13:58:52 Particularly, system()! 13:58:53 i use ubuntu and fedora 13:59:29 alaricsp: Adamantix used Scheme for RBAC rules 13:59:31 Yeah, I'm pretty sure there was a distro that uses a lot of Scheme, their sources would make for interesting reading. 13:59:46 *nod* 14:02:44 saccade_ [n=saccade@18.33.7.119] has joined #scheme 14:06:32 -!- sam__ [n=Sami__@e81-197-69-201.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [] 14:07:51 -!- dsmith [i=gf4jols7@cpe-71-74-230-225.neo.res.rr.com] has quit ["Leaving"] 14:12:27 -!- ejs [n=eugen@77-109-25-245.dynamic.peoplenet.ua] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 14:20:29 hAtOrY [n=hAtOrY@bl9-167-95.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #scheme 14:20:38 wtf? 14:21:00 -!- saccade_ [n=saccade@18.33.7.119] has quit ["This computer has gone to sleep"] 14:21:13 so many people :x ... 14:21:33 i never dreamed that so many people use scheme ahah... 14:21:51 heh 14:21:59 Nobody here uses scheme 14:22:09 We just hang out here to make it seem people are using Scheme 14:22:26 ahaha 14:22:29 -!- sladegen [n=nemo@unaffiliated/sladegen] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 14:22:35 At least 70% of us are just AI experiments written in Scheme by the 1% that actually use Scheme. 14:22:57 sam_ [n=Sami__@e81-197-69-201.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #scheme 14:22:57 sladegen [n=nemo@unaffiliated/sladegen] has joined #scheme 14:23:00 ahaha 14:24:06 minion: advice for hAtOrY 14:24:06 hAtOrY: #12000: Looking for a compiler bug is the second-to-last resort. The last resort is blaming bad RAM. It's never the correct hypothesis. 14:25:05 okok.. i had an IST discipline that worked with scheme.. 14:26:05 -!- exexex [n=chatzill@85.102.133.215] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 14:26:09 exexex__ [n=chatzill@85.102.133.215] has joined #scheme 14:26:10 -!- exexex__ is now known as exexex 14:34:49 -!- leppie [n=lolcow@dsl-243-30-250.telkomadsl.co.za] has quit [Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)] 14:35:27 leppie [n=lolcow@dsl-243-30-250.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #scheme 14:36:57 r5rs atan 14:36:57 http://www.schemers.org/Documents/Standards/R5RS/HTML/r5rs-Z-H-9.html#%_idx_328 14:37:00 -rudybot:#scheme- http://tinyurl.com/9m2o78 14:39:46 saccade_ [n=saccade@18.33.7.119] has joined #scheme 14:43:08 -!- hAtOrY [n=hAtOrY@bl9-167-95.dsl.telepac.pt] has quit [] 14:43:21 -!- elmex [n=elmex@e180067015.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 14:44:35 a-s [n=user@85.9.55.98] has joined #scheme 14:46:37 elmex [n=elmex@e180067015.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #scheme 14:48:47 -!- sam_ [n=Sami__@e81-197-69-201.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 14:54:14 synthase [n=synthase@c-69-243-234-165.hsd1.al.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 14:54:29 moghar [n=user@unaffiliated/moghar] has joined #scheme 14:58:57 -!- geckosenator [n=sean@adsl-68-23-87-156.dsl.dytnoh.ameritech.net] has quit ["leaving"] 15:03:12 -!- saccade_ [n=saccade@18.33.7.119] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 15:03:48 langmartin [n=user@75.148.111.133] has joined #scheme 15:09:28 -!- troter_ [n=troter@EM114-48-42-0.pool.e-mobile.ne.jp] has quit [Client Quit] 15:10:39 -!- Adamant [n=Adamant@unaffiliated/adamant] has quit [] 15:11:31 Adamant [n=Adamant@c-71-226-66-93.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 15:17:19 Gorgoroth [i=Gorgorot@195-132-141-240.rev.numericable.fr] has joined #scheme 15:17:36 sam_ [n=Sami__@e81-197-69-201.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #scheme 15:20:20 -!- ecraven [n=nex@140.78.42.103] has quit ["bbl"] 15:21:03 -!- sidoe [n=nobody@202.93.37.90] has quit ["I am going away"] 15:22:29 ejs [n=eugen@92-49-225-133.dynamic.peoplenet.ua] has joined #scheme 15:24:13 -!- cads [n=max@c-71-56-62-166.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has quit [Connection timed out] 15:27:49 wastrel [n=wastrel@nylug/member/wastrel] has joined #scheme 15:27:59 -!- Adamant [n=Adamant@unaffiliated/adamant] has quit [No route to host] 15:28:10 -!- MichaelRaskin_ [n=raskin@chld.ru] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 15:30:26 dereine [n=dereine@die.sauma.de] has joined #scheme 15:30:51 i'm using plt-scheme, is there a method to use sth similar to func_get_args(), i want to get all parameters in a list 15:30:54 name [n=name@sburn/devel/name] has joined #scheme 15:31:38 incubot, eval (+ 1 2) 15:31:38 Error: unbound variable: incubot 15:31:48 incubot: eval (+ 1 2) 15:31:49 3 15:32:03 incubot: eval ((lambda x x) '(one two three)) 15:32:04 ((one two three)) 15:32:19 Er? 15:33:17 dereine, if you want to get all the parameters of a function in a list, simply create a function definition with a variable in the argument list position. 15:33:55 but i still have to write each parameter 15:34:00 so there is a limit 15:35:41 Let's back up a step. What is func_get_args() and how do you expect it to behave? 15:36:57 it returns a list of all parameters of the current function 15:37:18 -!- name [n=name@sburn/devel/name] has quit [Client Quit] 15:39:37 -!- exexex [n=chatzill@85.102.133.215] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 15:39:49 reprore [n=reprore@ntkngw604176.kngw.nt.ftth.ppp.infoweb.ne.jp] has joined #scheme 15:41:03 dereine: the list of formal arguments, or the list of argument values? 15:42:32 Daemmerung [n=goetter@1133sae.mazama.net] has joined #scheme 15:43:09 rotty: what is the difference?, i'm not a scheme pro 15:43:16 but the list of argument values seems better 15:43:33 i want to create something similar to max() 15:43:40 (max ) 15:47:41 rudybot: eval (define (sum . args) (apply + args)) (sum 1 2 3 4) 15:47:42 rotty: ; Value: 10 15:50:48 rudybot, eval (define (mean . nums) (/ (apply + nums) (length nums))) (mean 1 2 3 4) 15:50:48 gnomon: ; Value: 5/2 15:52:20 -!- a-s [n=user@85.9.55.98] has left #scheme 15:54:44 jlongster [n=user@75.148.111.133] has joined #scheme 15:57:28 barney [n=bernhard@p549A03A2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #scheme 15:57:37 -!- attila_lendvai [n=ati@catv-89-133-170-239.catv.broadband.hu] has quit ["..."] 15:58:17 *offby1* didn't know you could put two expressions in one line :-| 16:01:24 -!- dereine [n=dereine@die.sauma.de] has left #scheme 16:02:01 incubot: advice for me 16:02:02 advice for chals 16:05:13 Adamant [n=Adamant@AASU-101-61.Armstrong.EDU] has joined #scheme 16:05:17 -!- sam_ [n=Sami__@e81-197-69-201.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Connection timed out] 16:05:59 vixey [n=vicky@amcant.demon.co.uk] has joined #scheme 16:06:53 -!- yhara_ [n=yhara@7.193.12.221.megaegg.ne.jp] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 16:07:14 -!- Adamant [n=Adamant@unaffiliated/adamant] has quit [Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer)] 16:08:11 ejs1 [n=eugen@77-109-26-207.dynamic.peoplenet.ua] has joined #scheme 16:10:30 orgy` [n=ratm_@pD9FFF061.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #scheme 16:11:08 -!- xwl_ [n=user@221.221.160.204] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 16:14:01 loxs [n=loxs@83.228.122.198] has joined #scheme 16:15:36 hello. Could you please suggest me a scheme interpreter that runs on linux and is suitable for use when reading the SICP? 16:17:14 loxs, dr scheme 16:18:18 -!- duncanm [n=duncan@a-chinaman.com] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 16:19:12 -!- ejs [n=eugen@92-49-225-133.dynamic.peoplenet.ua] has quit [Connection timed out] 16:23:15 This is such a FAQ! As far as I know, _none_ of the popular schemes work _perfectly_ with SICP out of the box ... with the possible exception of MIT Scheme. 16:23:32 Someone ought to write a SICP language level for DrScheme, I'm tellin' ya. 16:24:14 yeah good idea, just need someone to actually do it... 16:24:26 loxs: DrScheme is fine -- but you'll find a few annoyances, like SICP expects the identifier "nil" to be bound to '(), whereas DrScheme isn't set up that way. It's easy to do by hand, but still, if you're learning, it's a little speed bump 16:24:35 athos [n=philipp@92.250.204.223] has joined #scheme 16:24:44 Pity that SICP itself doesn't recommend an implementation 16:24:56 Pity that people's instructors don't recommend an implementation 16:25:22 loxs: so vixey and I are unanimous: use DrScheme, and then ask here if you run into problems 16:25:40 thanks :) 16:25:42 underspecified [n=eric@isa7-dhcp-116-155.naist.jp] has joined #scheme 16:26:26 I seem to have heard more of bigloo and guile... why are they more popular? 16:27:02 I even have guile installed already... as a dependency to something (gentoo linux) 16:27:10 use guile 16:30:43 dnm [n=dnm@156.sub-75-197-115.myvzw.com] has joined #scheme 16:41:04 peter_12 [n=peter@S010600119506b129.gv.shawcable.net] has joined #scheme 16:44:08 mfredrickson [n=mfredric@c-98-212-171-158.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 16:44:08 saccade_ [n=saccade@MCNAIR-ONE-THIRTY-THREE.MIT.EDU] has joined #scheme 16:45:37 dzhus [n=sphinx@93-80-235-9.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #scheme 16:45:54 I have no idea which are most popular, nor why they are. 16:46:11 Yeah, there's a lot to be said for using the implementation that you've already got installed and working. 16:46:19 Unless you just like installing stuff :) 16:53:03 -!- bpt [n=bpt@cpe-071-070-209-067.nc.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 16:53:46 -!- vincenz [n=arli@li23-146.members.linode.com] has quit ["Reconnecting"] 16:53:56 vincenz [n=arli@li23-146.members.linode.com] has joined #scheme 16:54:19 -!- vincenz [n=arli@li23-146.members.linode.com] has quit [Client Quit] 16:54:58 vincenz [n=vincenz@li23-146.members.linode.com] has joined #scheme 16:57:30 eli: pong 16:59:24 this is #scheme http://smoothjazzy.files.wordpress.com/2007/03/pong.gif 17:00:30 -!- peter_12 [n=peter@S010600119506b129.gv.shawcable.net] has quit [] 17:13:10 -!- saccade_ [n=saccade@MCNAIR-ONE-THIRTY-THREE.MIT.EDU] has quit ["This computer has gone to sleep"] 17:15:28 -!- alaricsp [n=alaricsp@relief.warhead.org.uk] has quit [] 17:19:40 -!- errordeveloper [n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Client Quit] 17:19:43 -!- jlongster [n=user@75.148.111.133] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 17:20:02 errordeveloper [n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk] has joined #scheme 17:20:38 peter_12 [n=peter@S010600119506b129.gv.shawcable.net] has joined #scheme 17:20:47 -!- reprore [n=reprore@ntkngw604176.kngw.nt.ftth.ppp.infoweb.ne.jp] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 17:22:31 jlongster [n=user@75.148.111.133] has joined #scheme 17:24:45 -!- ramkrsna [n=ramkrsna@unaffiliated/ramkrsna] has quit ["Leaving"] 17:24:52 reprore [n=reprore@ntkngw604176.kngw.nt.ftth.ppp.infoweb.ne.jp] has joined #scheme 17:29:57 -!- reprore [n=reprore@ntkngw604176.kngw.nt.ftth.ppp.infoweb.ne.jp] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 17:30:33 reprore [n=reprore@ntkngw604176.kngw.nt.ftth.ppp.infoweb.ne.jp] has joined #scheme 17:36:35 forcer [n=forcer@e179195084.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #scheme 17:37:44 melito [n=melito@70.99.250.82] has joined #scheme 17:40:02 hark [n=strider@2001:5c0:1101:7000:223:4dff:fe7d:331a] has joined #scheme 17:40:02 -!- hark [n=strider@2001:5c0:1101:7000:223:4dff:fe7d:331a] has quit [Client Quit] 17:40:09 hi loxs :) 17:40:54 hi hkBst :) 17:46:32 scheme48 is now w/ 64bit and unicode? 17:50:05 pmatos [n=pmatos@pocm06r.ecs.soton.ac.uk] has joined #scheme 17:50:10 loxs: us gentoo lispers hang out in #gentoo-lisp 17:52:50 -!- pmatos [n=pmatos@pocm06r.ecs.soton.ac.uk] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 17:54:31 Talk about a subculture within a subculture. 17:55:17 mmc, the scheme48 treatment of Unicode can be controversial 'round these parts. Beware. 17:57:24 hark [n=strider@2001:5c0:1101:7000:223:4dff:fe7d:331a] has joined #scheme 17:57:24 -!- hark [n=strider@2001:5c0:1101:7000:223:4dff:fe7d:331a] has quit [Client Quit] 17:58:58 gentoo-lisp?!?! 17:59:15 -!- pjdelport [n=pjd@ampere.divmod.com] has quit [wolfe.freenode.net irc.freenode.net] 17:59:16 -!- Debolaz [n=debolaz@195.159.114.206] has quit [wolfe.freenode.net irc.freenode.net] 17:59:50 Debolaz [n=debolaz@195.159.114.206] has joined #scheme 17:59:50 pjdelport [n=pjd@ampere.divmod.com] has joined #scheme 17:59:53 *gnomon* considers #arch-haskell and #debian-pascal 18:00:00 gentooers are a people apart. 18:00:12 what might gentoo and lisp have in common? are they planning to make a lisp machine? ;) 18:00:17 (i.e., they're craaaaaaazy!) 18:00:28 -!- pjdelport [n=pjd@ampere.divmod.com] has quit [wolfe.freenode.net irc.freenode.net] 18:00:28 -!- Debolaz [n=debolaz@195.159.114.206] has quit [wolfe.freenode.net irc.freenode.net] 18:00:45 pjdelport [n=pjd@ampere.divmod.com] has joined #scheme 18:00:59 Debolaz [n=debolaz@195.159.114.206] has joined #scheme 18:01:00 I've been around quite a few gentooers lately 18:01:07 Mostly I think that nobody will support them because they insist on running ebuilds instead of supported binary releases. 18:01:15 *gnomon* also considers #damnsmalllinux-forth and #ubuntu-factor 18:01:40 hark [n=strider@hark.slew.org] has joined #scheme 18:01:42 I would say you're 60% correct :D 18:02:09 At least that's what I saw with gentoo folks on #lisp. 18:07:52 -!- reprore [n=reprore@ntkngw604176.kngw.nt.ftth.ppp.infoweb.ne.jp] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 18:12:40 reprore [n=reprore@ntkngw604176.kngw.nt.ftth.ppp.infoweb.ne.jp] has joined #scheme 18:17:23 drdo`` [n=psykon@167.111.54.77.rev.vodafone.pt] has joined #scheme 18:18:15 -!- foof [n=user@c-76-99-37-6.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 18:18:25 foof [n=user@c-76-99-37-6.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 18:23:26 -!- jonrafkind [n=jon@c-98-202-86-149.hsd1.ut.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 18:24:48 error_developer_ [n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk] has joined #scheme 18:27:06 drdo``` [n=psykon@167.111.54.77.rev.vodafone.pt] has joined #scheme 18:27:35 -!- dzhus [n=sphinx@93-80-235-9.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 18:31:55 patmaddox [n=pergesu@wsip-70-168-157-254.oc.oc.cox.net] has joined #scheme 18:32:19 -!- drdo` [n=psykon@167.111.54.77.rev.vodafone.pt] has quit [Connection timed out] 18:34:58 dudrenov [n=user@h-67-101-217-41.snfccasy.covad.net] has joined #scheme 18:36:44 -!- peter_12 [n=peter@S010600119506b129.gv.shawcable.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 18:37:15 jonrafkind [n=jon@wireless51.wireless.utah.edu] has joined #scheme 18:38:44 Adamant [n=Adamant@c-71-226-66-93.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 18:39:38 -!- errordeveloper [n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 18:41:04 -!- drdo`` [n=psykon@167.111.54.77.rev.vodafone.pt] has quit [Connection timed out] 18:54:41 cracki [n=cracki@sglty.kawo2.RWTH-Aachen.DE] has joined #scheme 18:57:03 -!- ttmrichter [n=ttmricht@58.49.244.201] has quit [Connection timed out] 19:04:26 -!- drdo``` is now known as drdo 19:05:44 annodomini [n=lambda@130.189.179.215] has joined #scheme 19:07:05 Mr-Cat [n=Mr-Cat@bahirkin1507.dialup.corbina.ru] has joined #scheme 19:08:47 -!- ejs1 [n=eugen@77-109-26-207.dynamic.peoplenet.ua] has quit ["This computer has gone to sleep"] 19:12:32 -!- hark [n=strider@hark.slew.org] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 19:14:23 -!- Adamant [n=Adamant@unaffiliated/adamant] has quit [] 19:18:26 pmatos [n=pmatos@pocm06r.ecs.soton.ac.uk] has joined #scheme 19:19:51 -!- pmatos [n=pmatos@pocm06r.ecs.soton.ac.uk] has quit [Client Quit] 19:27:05 hark [n=strider@hark.slew.org] has joined #scheme 19:28:01 levi: at least gentooers actually get to run gdb on interesting software once in a while 19:28:12 goddamn, i need ghci working 19:30:15 hotblack23 [n=jh@p5B057A77.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #scheme 19:31:06 Riastradh: do you still have "Version 3 (beta)" of pathname.el lying around somewhere? 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20:47:12 *rotty* wonders if "more opportunities" was meant as being a good thing in this case 20:49:10 -!- loxs [n=loxs@83.228.122.198] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 20:52:51 -!- saccade_ [n=saccade@dhcp-18-188-69-89.dyn.mit.edu] has quit [Connection timed out] 20:53:32 -!- patmaddox [n=pergesu@wsip-70-168-157-254.oc.oc.cox.net] has quit [] 21:06:40 alaricsp [n=alaricsp@relief.warhead.org.uk] has joined #scheme 21:09:28 -!- orgy` [n=ratm_@pD9FFF061.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ["Gone."] 21:17:47 MichaelRaskin_ [n=raskin@gwh-1-177-mytn23k1.ln.rinet.ru] has joined #scheme 21:23:47 -!- gribozavr [n=grib@193.138.147.22] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 21:25:35 rotty, yes, but except for omitting a number of definitions, it's not much different from pathname.el. Out of curiosity, may I ask why you want it? 21:27:40 Qaexl [n=Akashakr@c-24-30-97-247.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 21:28:10 rotty, I've put it up in , named with Emacs's numbered backup convention. 21:31:21 tocki [n=Miranda@94.189.232.150] has joined #scheme 21:35:23 -!- jgracin [n=jgracin@82.193.210.126] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 21:56:09 errordeveloper [n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk] has joined #scheme 22:01:12 loxs [n=loxs@213.91.162.124] has joined #scheme 22:02:22 -!- error_developer_ [n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)] 22:02:47 gribozavr [n=grib@193.138.147.22] has joined #scheme 22:04:52 -!- moghar [n=user@unaffiliated/moghar] has left #scheme 22:05:07 -!- alaricsp [n=alaricsp@relief.warhead.org.uk] has quit [] 22:13:17 fe[nl]ix [n=algidus@88-149-208-97.dynamic.ngi.it] has joined #scheme 22:14:42 levi: which "supported binary releases" are you speaking of? 22:15:18 -!- Hellnar [i=Hellnar@88.235.127.47] has quit [] 22:15:19 hkBst: The ones that people like the SBCL team make. 22:17:22 -!- reprore [n=reprore@ntkngw604176.kngw.nt.ftth.ppp.infoweb.ne.jp] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 22:20:09 x-v [n=x-v@adsl-99-161-154-132.dsl.hstntx.sbcglobal.net] has joined #scheme 22:21:44 -!- x-v [n=x-v@adsl-99-161-154-132.dsl.hstntx.sbcglobal.net] has left #scheme 22:23:23 Paraselene_ [n=Not@79-67-130-219.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #scheme 22:25:01 -!- langmartin [n=user@75.148.111.133] has quit ["ERC Version 5.2 (IRC client for Emacs)"] 22:26:22 -!- barney [n=bernhard@p549A03A2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 22:27:34 saccade_ [n=saccade@18.143.1.224] has joined #scheme 22:27:57 -!- fe[nl]ix [n=algidus@88-149-208-97.dynamic.ngi.it] has left #scheme 22:29:48 nowhea [n=nowhere@c83-249-224-126.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #scheme 22:30:10 -!- nowhea [n=nowhere@c83-249-224-126.bredband.comhem.se] has left #scheme 22:31:23 -!- saccade_ [n=saccade@18.143.1.224] has quit [Client Quit] 22:35:53 -!- jewel [n=jewel@dsl-242-149-174.telkomadsl.co.za] has quit [No route to host] 22:36:30 -!- hotblack23 [n=jh@p5B057A77.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 22:37:27 -!- CaptainMorgan [n=CaptainM@c-24-62-183-102.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 22:38:00 CaptainMorgan [n=CaptainM@c-24-62-183-102.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 22:42:40 -!- Mr-Cat [n=Mr-Cat@bahirkin1507.dialup.corbina.ru] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 22:42:59 -!- Paraselene_ [n=Not@79-67-130-219.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has quit [""That's our secret... we kill you with kindness. 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