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It looks like http://www.htdp.org/ is down. Is there a mirror anywhere? 02:38:16 -!- JohnnyL [i=JohnnyL@ool-182ddad4.dyn.optonline.net] has left #scheme 02:39:49 not sure, have you emailed the plt list yet? 02:40:29 jonrafkind: No. Should I? 02:40:41 sure, unless you aren't subscribed and its a pain 02:40:43 i can do it for you 02:41:03 meh, email... 02:41:14 jonrafkind: That'd be great :) (I'm not subscribed) 02:41:18 ok 02:41:56 my ISP just blocked port 25, incoming, today. I have no way to receive email now. 02:42:36 hoh 02:42:49 can't figure out any way around that, not without monies. 02:43:12 whats port 25, pop3? 02:43:22 smtp 02:43:34 oh right, you mean you cant send email 02:44:08 send or receive, but the latter's what I'm most concerned about. 02:44:27 i thought most people used pop3 or imap to receive email 02:44:57 I use IMAP to organize it, once I have received it... 02:46:07 hrm, ive never heard of such a thing 02:46:14 imap is a protocol for retrieving email 02:46:31 my client connects to an imap server over ssl using port 993 02:46:37 the default imap port is 143 or something 02:46:55 IMAP is a handy way to store email in folders, that works even if you switch clients. No mailbox migration needed. 02:47:28 "Internet Message Access Protocol" not necessarily "Internet Message Download Protocol" 02:48:43 hml [n=x@unaffiliated/hml] has joined #scheme 02:50:53 Just curious, why do you retrieve email with IMAP, instead of POP? 02:51:46 because it keeps the email on the server 02:52:06 and it has nicer directory featuers 02:52:29 What directories do you use, for example? 02:52:34 jonrafkind, when you send a message to an address, your MTA connects to the mail exchanger for the address's host and conducts an SMTP transaction. If the mail exchanger for the address's host does not accept connections, then you can't deliver mail to that address. 02:52:37 ttmrichter_ [n=ttmricht@58.49.244.73] has joined #scheme 02:52:54 uh thanks.. i guess 02:53:04 synx, like projects/something/svn 02:53:32 Why don't you put those folders on your computer? 02:53:34 and school/someclass/list 02:53:46 because the email stays on the server 02:53:48 And presumably the host in synx's address is behind synx's ISP, which means that mail transfer agents can't deliver mail addressed to synx. 02:54:52 Riastradh: yes that's right. As of today they secretly blacklisted me. 02:55:18 synx, I guess you run your own smtp server? 02:55:33 On the other hand, their lawyers will probably be all too happy to point synx to an obscure claws in the ISP's terms of service. 02:55:37 ...clause. 02:55:51 jonrafkind: I did, so far yes. 02:55:59 ah that makes things clear 02:56:17 Riastradh: Every ISP in this geographical area has in their ToS the wording pretty much "you may not run any servers ever" 02:56:18 ive heard too many horror stories to want to attempt such a thing, and it seems pointless 02:56:27 "...unless you pay us an extra $100 a month" 02:56:32 Who holds your domain records? 02:56:47 A generous donation from afraid.org 02:57:33 I mean, who is the registrar? I'd look for myself, but I don't know your email address. 02:58:06 afraid.org is the um... registrar I think? They let me have free DNS. 02:59:04 -!- timchen1` is now known as nasloc__ 03:01:46 -!- ttmrichter [n=ttmricht@221.235.63.217] has quit [Success] 03:02:05 -!- hml [n=x@unaffiliated/hml] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 03:04:35 -!- cemerick [n=la_mer@75.147.38.122] has quit [] 03:04:37 I can't believe they're charging $90 a month and they won't even let me get emails... 03:05:08 I can. 03:05:21 In fact, I'm believing it right now! 03:07:07 -!- fschwidom [n=fschwido@dslb-084-059-234-236.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 03:07:46 lies! 03:07:48 lies and trickery! 03:09:41 You can get afraid.com to point your MX record elsewhere. 03:10:26 s/com/org 03:10:42 sure, I'll just send my wads of cash over to a professional email server, no problem. 03:11:17 but yeah if I could get a friend to relay that'd work. *sighs* they'll all be in this ISP too though, or worse. 03:12:10 By the way, you'd better be careful if you're in the US: violating terms of service for a web site, and probably also for an ISP, now has legal precedent for being a federal crime. 03:12:15 They still allow port 587, so I could set up SMTP auth for a friendly relay there. 03:12:55 Riastradh: I've committed so many federal crimes just by existing, USA law is a laughingstock these days. 03:13:21 -!- replor [n=replor@ntkngw375028.kngw.nt.ftth.ppp.infoweb.ne.jp] has quit [Read error: 148 (No route to host)] 03:13:34 I'll take my ranting to #politics though, sorry. 03:13:45 riastradh: seriously? 03:14:25 synx: I think there's an alternative: I'm still researching it. 03:14:29 Yes, seriously, karsten_. 03:15:14 -!- saccade_ [n=saccade@65.78.24.47] has quit ["This computer has gone to sleep"] 03:15:23 jcowan: if you figure out a way that doesn't require the 3rd party email servers to set anything up, I'll be gratified to hear it. 03:15:49 saccade_ [n=saccade@65.78.24.47] has joined #scheme 03:17:15 There was a recent, well-publicized court case, United States v. Lori Drew, which led to a federal criminal misdemeanor for violating MySpace's terms of service. 03:17:36 wait what 03:17:48 I swear I'm not making this up. 03:17:56 Unfortunately, it's not as funny as a Dave Barry column. 03:18:03 that was that woman talking a girl into suicide, right? 03:18:16 Yes, karsten_. 03:18:46 I could understand if she was prosecuted for driving someone to suicide, but violating myspace's ToS? 03:18:58 and they couldn't hold anything else against her, so they claimed that to be a federal crime? wow. 03:20:27 wy [n=wy@c-67-176-146-7.hsd1.in.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 03:20:37 you know, when charges won't stick, that doesn't mean trump up new charges. it means justice has been served. 03:21:01 She was convicted under the Computer Fraud and Abuse Act of violating MySpace's terms of service. 03:21:46 and put in prison for three years. that's hilarious. 03:22:19 grettke [n=grettke@CPE-65-31-132-59.wi.res.rr.com] has joined #scheme 03:22:39 Hi guys. Can you load http://www.htdp.org/? 03:22:55 grettke: nope 03:23:13 karsten: thanks 03:23:31 I'm not sure `hilarious' is the right word for it. `Ludicrous' may be slightly more appropriate, but I think that `bat-shit lunacy' cuts right to the core of it. 03:24:02 Crackers used to be charged with stealing electricity. 03:24:18 But synx is basically right: there are a whole list of crimes of existence. 03:24:35 As my dad used to say: if you are standing still, it's loitering, and if you are moving, it's vagrancy. 03:24:37 trespassing, mostly 03:24:59 not incriminating yourself to the jury duty folks, or the IRS... 03:25:11 What distinguishes this is that it has been highly publicized and is now well-known legal precedent for prosecution as a federal crime. 03:25:16 haha yeah jcowan I never heard that before 03:26:10 He also said: Possession is nine points of the law, but that's not to say how many points the law might have. 03:26:16 that doesn't distinguish it from anything we've mentioned, but it is still rather chilling. 03:33:20 *jcowan* wonders what would happen if your registrar pointed your MX record at smtp.gmail.com, provided you have already created a synx@gmail.com account. 03:34:14 jcowan: Then they'd send it to @gmail.com, not synx@gmail. 03:34:22 jcowan, is the object of this exercise to give synx a new email address (in which case, what does it matter what his old one was?), or is the object of this exercise to deliver mail to synx's existing address? 03:35:00 The latter 03:35:16 So synx@synx.com currently delivers to synx.homeaddress.someisp.net. 03:35:28 It'd be fine if I made an IP over email tunnel via a gmail account. 03:35:35 jcowan: wouldn't work, as the To-field would still be the old address, which would be rejected by the gmail smtp servers. 03:35:43 Or would it? 03:35:57 They don't run Sendmail, as I have learned from observation. 03:36:51 jcowan, sorry, I omitted a part of the latter: ...or is the object of this exercise to deliver mail, on which is written synx's existing address, to synx's existing mail server? 03:36:51 (I'm not telling any Google secrets here, for the simple reason that I don't have any in this area.) 03:37:33 (I'd ask whether you've signed a non-disclosure agreement, but I imagine the response would be `I can't disclose that!') 03:37:41 All I really care about is receiving email. I divided it up among multiple aliases so that if one of them went spammy I didn't have to cut off all the others. 03:37:43 The latter part could be achieved by using fetchmail (or some equivalent) to retrieve the mail back from gmail. 03:38:13 Riastradh: I have indeed signed an NDA, but it doesn't block me from talking about things that I didn't learn from my employer. 03:39:12 jcowan, how would the sending agent know to tell Gmail's mail exchanger that the messages addressed to synx@synx.com should be delivered to synx@gmail.com? 03:39:35 jcowan, conspiracy theory? 03:39:44 maxote: why no 03:39:58 Riastradh: You can set up a MX record to point synx.com -> gmail.com 03:40:00 they are the robbers 03:40:05 But you can't change the synx@ part. 03:40:54 synx: that doesn't work, an mx record doesn't rewrite the host part of the recipient 03:41:19 The sending agent would connect to gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com and say: MAIL FROM:<...>, RCPT TO:, DATA To: synx@synx.com, ... Where would the sending agent say anything about synx@gmail.com? 03:41:20 Well, true... 03:41:33 The question is whether the non-standard server actually pays attention to the "@gmail.com" part of the envelope address. 03:41:51 I'd have to download from gmail via POP, extract the real email somehow, then send it through my local MTA. 03:42:05 Fetchmail is designed exactly for that purpose. 03:42:22 But getting everyone else to convert the email from a normal email to someone@synx.com, to a wrapped email at synx@gmail.com is difficult. 03:42:36 Well, that's the sticky part. 03:42:38 That's easy to test, jcowan. `nc gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com 25' and try what I wrote, but with jcowan@fnord.org and jcowan@gmail.com (or whatever your Gmail address is). 03:42:54 I tried, but it insisted on switching to TLS for whatever reason. 03:43:03 OK, use socat, then. 03:43:15 It's only supposed to do that on port 587... 03:43:36 Adamant [n=Adamant@c-98-244-152-196.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 03:43:40 ...oh, socat might not do SMTP STARTTLS. stunnel will, though. 03:49:17 this is probably a simple question to you folks, but I'm tearing my hair out... if I need to use #lang scheme in file, set to module, because I have to 'require' planet packages, why can't I 'load' simple local file or how do I do so? it returns errors like, "compile: unbound identifier (and no #%app syntax transformer is bound) in: #%top-interaction", or if I try to 'include' it, I get: "read error (read: #lang expressions no 03:49:17 t currently enabled)" 03:49:24 hm 03:49:31 does anyone have a good example of code using run-server? 03:49:50 CaptainMorgan, you should generally never use LOAD. 03:50:42 captainmorgan: why don't you just use (require (file "filename.ss")) ? 03:51:17 *CaptainMorgan* is feeling immensely stupid right now... 03:51:24 thank you karsten_ for some reason, I didn't see that on planet 03:52:24 oh, but that it only working for me with files that are modules... the file I want to load/include is r5rs 03:52:56 then just use (require r5rs) 03:54:52 karsten_, following that I'm receiving: "load-handler: expected a `module' declaration for ..." 03:58:15 captainmorgan: what exactly are you doing? i cannot reproduce this behaviour here. 03:58:17 offby1` [n=user@q-static-138-125.avvanta.com] has joined #scheme 04:01:16 karsten_, I have a file A, which contains: #lang scheme and is set to "module" language in DrScheme. I'm using 'require' to get a package B from planet. So far so good. I've 'require'ed r5rs, also good. I have a local file C which is r5rs, and I'm trying to use this file from within file A, now with (require (file "FileC.ss")), or (load "FileC.ss") or (include "FileC.ss") etc.. and they return errors explained previously. 04:03:14 -!- gweiqi [n=greg@69.120.126.163] has quit ["Leaving."] 04:05:02 CaptainMorgan: Try (require "FileC.ss"). That's what you're supposed to do if both FileA and FileC are in the same location/package/thingy. 04:05:47 captainmorgan: hm, i have no idea what drscheme is doing to a file when you set it to module language. i'm only using the command line mzscheme. 04:06:32 synx, that also returns the same load-handler error... 04:06:37 It's not doing much... just put a #lang scheme in there and it'll work in both mzscheme and "Module" language drscheme. 04:07:09 I have since been able to get 'include' to work... but I had to change file C a bit... and I'm not sure if it'll break now as a result... 04:10:08 CaptainMorgan: Where's the rum? 04:10:49 *CaptainMorgan* burps 04:11:19 :o 04:11:57 -!- Modius [n=Modius@adsl-67-67-220-40.dsl.austtx.swbell.net] has quit ["I'm big in Japan"] 04:13:18 -!- offby1 [n=user@q-static-138-125.avvanta.com] has quit [Connection timed out] 04:13:49 underspecified [n=eric@clair16.naist.jp] has joined #scheme 04:17:24 CaptainMorgan: ah feel yo pain 04:18:40 -!- underspecified [n=eric@clair16.naist.jp] has quit [Client Quit] 04:18:46 -!- forcer [n=forcer@e177143065.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Connection timed out] 04:20:10 offby1 pasted "CaptainMorgan: how I did it" at http://paste.lisp.org/display/71617 04:20:22 -!- offby1` is now known as offby1 04:21:05 yo ho ho 04:22:09 blargh 04:26:00 -!- grettke [n=grettke@CPE-65-31-132-59.wi.res.rr.com] has quit [] 04:29:01 eli, whats up with the planet page 04:29:08 the css is wrong 04:29:15 -!- MichaelRaskin_ [n=raskin@gwh-1-177-mytn23k1.ln.rinet.ru] has quit ["Leaving."] 04:34:48 I like it. Nice 'n' minimal. 04:35:15 Cale_ [n=Cale@CPE001c10c70239-CM000e5cdd834a.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #scheme 04:35:33 -!- Cale [n=Cale@CPE001c10c70239-CM000e5cdd834a.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 04:35:47 -!- Cale_ is now known as Cale 04:36:20 oooh 04:36:29 so you're "kazzmir". Sneeeeeaky 04:37:10 eww, your "Vi mode" page says: Execute the following line in Drscheme or Mzscheme "(require (planet \"tool.ss\" (\"kazzmir\" \"vi.plt\")))" 04:37:21 i.e., it hath backslashes where they ain't s'posed to be no backslashes 04:37:30 jonrafkind: the above is for you 04:37:54 yea.. blame scribble 04:38:00 or my lack of understanding of how to use it 04:38:08 i did @verbose{...} or sometheing and it did that 04:38:11 i was too lazy to fix it 04:38:12 eww 04:38:33 are you the 1 download so far? 04:38:35 scribble seems very promising ... and they did write a lotta docs for it ... and yet ... I haven't gathered the momentum to actually learn it 04:38:35 for 1.2 04:38:45 scribble is pretty cool for the most part 04:38:50 naw, I didn't download it; I was just looking to see what's new, and that package is the newest. 04:39:05 I'm an Emacs guy myself. 04:39:05 i have 1 fan somewhere on the earth.. 04:41:14 Danny Yoo surely doth rock, by the way. 04:41:19 dost? 04:41:25 -!- foof [n=user@dn157-046.naist.jp] has quit ["brb"] 04:46:47 incubot: r6rs 04:46:49 foof [n=user@naist-wavenet126-194.naist.jp] has joined #scheme 04:51:01 -!- a-s [n=user@92.80.72.93] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 04:51:16 a-s [n=user@92.80.72.93] has joined #scheme 04:51:46 incubot: the 04:51:50 incubot: and 04:51:51 incubot: but 04:52:13 incubot: butt 04:52:15 first impression I got when I saw Perl stuff was: This is butt-ugly. 04:52:22 :) 04:52:34 indeed, incubot 04:52:35 incubot: frungy 04:52:56 ooh, clever Mr Bot filters out common words. 04:53:09 OK, quick programming challenge: find the most-common word to which the bot responds. 04:53:09 haha 04:53:17 offby1: i thing it's a word length limit 04:53:20 incubot: ineluctable 04:53:23 *k 04:53:37 incubot: inconceivable ! 04:53:39 but it's not inconceivable. 04:58:13 incubot: hi 04:58:23 incubot: four 04:58:25 there's no single canonical system, and the four hours were required to put that fact in its proper context. 04:58:36 incubot: one 04:58:54 incubot: die 04:59:09 incubot: eval (version) 04:59:09 Error: unbound variable: version 04:59:29 *arcfide* shrugs. 05:00:03 incubot: eval (chicken-version) 05:00:04 3.4.0 05:00:29 replor [n=replor@EM114-48-144-123.pool.e-mobile.ne.jp] has joined #scheme 05:00:53 ok, cue the Y-combinators; the endless loops; the calls to "exit" 05:01:00 incubot: eval (getenv "HOME") 05:01:00 /home/pcdanenb 05:01:15 who knows how to exec a process in chicken? 05:01:18 or load a DLL? 05:01:28 incubot: eval (getenv) 05:01:28 Error: bad argument count - received 0 but expected 1 05:01:33 incubot: eval (getenv "PATH") 05:01:33 /home/pcdanenb/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/sbin:/sbin:/usr/kerberos/bin:/usr/lib64/ccache:/usr/local/bin:/bin:/usr/bin 05:01:59 Hehehe. 05:02:01 let's save some time: someone get eli in here :) 05:02:38 incubot: (call-with-input-file "/etc/passwd" (lambda (in) (let lp ((ls '())) (let ((c (read-char in))) (if (eof-object? c) (list->string (reverse ls)) (lp (cons c ls))))))) 05:02:39 Error: (open-input-file) can not open file - No such file or directory: "/etc/passwd" 05:03:01 oh, right. 05:03:03 he's lying. 05:03:11 mm 05:03:21 maybe he's running in some kinda chroot jail 05:03:29 incubot: (system "pwd") 05:03:29 32512 05:03:41 oh :) 05:04:08 incubot: printf 05:04:10 it's like printf 05:04:24 incubot: (system "ls -lR /") 05:04:25 32512 05:04:35 ... 05:04:39 incubot: (foreign-code "void main() {printf(\"Hello, world\");}") 05:04:39 Error: unbound variable: foreign-code 05:04:48 incubot: (with-output-to-string (system "/bin/ls")) 05:04:49 Error: call of non-procedure: 32512 05:04:55 incubot: eval (with-output-to-string (lambda () (system "ls /"))) 05:04:57 incubot: (system "/bin/true") 05:04:57 32512 05:05:13 incubot: eval process 05:05:15 Assuming, again, that what you're after is the solution, not the enjoyment of the process of solving. 05:05:16 incubot: (system "telnet 64.22.124.11 80") 05:05:16 32512 05:05:24 incubot: (current-directory) 05:05:24 Error: unbound variable: current-directory 05:05:33 incubot: (cd) 05:05:34 Error: unbound variable: cd 05:05:38 if 'true' and 'ls' aren't in there, i don't think telnet will be 05:06:05 is 32512 not_found? I thought it was a pid 05:06:15 but the repetition suggests I'm wrong 05:06:20 it's more like a return code 05:06:25 aye 05:06:30 hey, practice on your chicken interpreter at home first 05:06:42 current-directory is in a unit, but I don't know how to invoke a unit 05:07:02 rudybot: eval (number->string 32512 16) 05:07:03 offby1: ; Value: "7f00" 05:07:09 incubot: how does it feel, being prodded and poked during your physical? 05:07:09 require? 05:07:11 There are a couple people who, if prodded enough, might leak out FFIs. 05:07:17 incubot: (use posix) 05:07:18 Error: unbound variable: posix 05:07:18 haha 05:07:27 incubot: (use 'posix) 05:07:27 Error: unbound variable: use 05:07:31 incubot: (require-extension posix) 05:07:32 Error: (load-library) unable to load library 05:07:38 hmm 05:07:58 incubot: (arithmetic-shift 32512 -8) 05:07:58 127 05:08:04 funny how in all of us, it's wired into our nervous systems: we learn that it does "eval", we must hack it. 05:08:10 Not even a conscious decision. 05:08:12 We just do it. 05:08:24 incubot: (bitwise-and 32512 127) 05:08:24 0 05:08:27 offby1: haha, true 05:08:36 what's more, looking at the docs would be cheating 05:08:43 indeed 05:08:48 we don't like being constrained, we nerds. 05:08:59 I wonder if nerds would be better at breaking out of prison than the average bear. 05:10:11 tjafk2 [n=timj@e176209176.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #scheme 05:10:46 incubot: (foreign-code "23;") 05:10:46 Error: unbound variable: foreign-code 05:11:31 aspect: The FFI is only available in the compiler. 05:11:49 makes sense 05:11:56 There's an inline egg that lets you compile at runtime, but incubot doesn't seem to be able to load eggs. 05:11:59 incubot: (use eval) 05:11:59 Error: unbound variable: use 05:12:08 incubot: (file-exists? "/bin/ls") 05:12:08 #f 05:12:27 incubot: (file-exists? "/") 05:12:27 / 05:13:58 incubot: (get-call-chain) 05:13:59 (#(incubot-read.scm: 5 min #f #f) #(incubot-read.scm: 5 substring #f #f) #(incubot-read.scm: 5 print #f #f) #(incubot-read.scm: 7 read #f #f) #(incubot-read.scm: 7 iter #f #f) #(incubot-read.scm: 4 eval #f #f) #( (get-call-chain) ... 05:14:14 incubot: (file-exists? "incubot-read.scm") 05:14:14 #f 05:14:21 incubot: (file-exists? "incubot") 05:14:21 #f 05:15:07 so it evals anything that begins with (, eh ... 05:15:22 incubot: (how long will you wait for the closing paren? 05:15:24 which takes care of closing the file upon exit 05:15:26 *offby1* whistles innocently 05:15:30 damn. 05:15:37 verrrrry clever. 05:16:43 Nah, it would have been a lot more work for offby1 to have made it read sexps across multiple lines. 05:16:48 incubot: (if (zero? (random 9999) (exit) "bang!") 05:16:49 Error: unterminated list 05:17:00 incubot: (if (zero? (random 9999)) (exit) "bang!") 05:17:00 bang! 05:17:24 hmm 05:17:25 -!- saccade_ [n=saccade@65.78.24.47] has quit ["This computer has gone to sleep"] 05:17:31 offby1: You probably want the sandbox egg. 05:17:45 maybe it looks for a leading ( and a trailing ), and only if it finds both does it try to "read" it 05:17:57 incubot: (exit) 05:17:57 incubot 05:18:03 0_o 05:18:06 incubot: (fork) 05:18:06 Error: unbound variable: fork 05:18:07 incubot: (safe-eval '(file-exists? ".")) 05:18:08 Error: unbound variable: safe-eval 05:18:52 incubot: (read-file "/etc/passwd") 05:18:52 Error: (open-input-file) can not open file - No such file or directory: "/etc/passwd" 05:19:48 incubot: (read-file ".") 05:19:48 () 05:19:53 incubot: (read-file "..") 05:19:54 () 05:19:57 incubot: (read-file "/") 05:19:57 () 05:20:02 stubborn, ain't he 05:20:07 incubot: (read-file "/dev/random") 05:20:07 Error: (open-input-file) can not open file - No such file or directory: "/dev/random" 05:20:10 incubot: (chicken-version) 05:20:11 3.4.0 05:20:11 incubot: (read-file "/dev/null") 05:20:13 Error: (open-input-file) can not open file - No such file or directory: "/dev/null" 05:20:19 READ-FILE reads a file as sexprs 05:20:41 you probably want, e.g. READ-LINES 05:20:49 -!- AtnNn [n=welcome@modemcable230.56-56-74.mc.videotron.ca] has quit ["strawberries"] 05:20:55 course, it still won't work on directories 05:20:56 need to find a file first :/ 05:21:13 (read-lines ".login") 05:21:18 I know this because I TRIED IT ON MY INTERPRETER FIRST 05:21:20 incubot: (read-lines ".login") 05:21:20 Error: (open-input-file) can not open file - No such file or directory: ".login" 05:21:31 zbigniew: bah, where's the fun :) 05:21:41 It's around here somewhere. 05:22:07 incubot: (current-fuel) 05:22:08 Error: unbound variable: current-fuel 05:22:27 shh. I think we're annoying zbigniewbot. 05:22:43 MORE COHERENCY 05:23:02 *offby1* coheres 05:23:14 incubot: (with-output-to-file "/tmp/foo.txt" (lambda () (display "Hello, world!"))) 05:23:14 Error: (open-output-file) can not open file - No such file or directory: "/tmp/foo.txt" 05:23:25 incubot: (with-output-to-file "tmp.txt" (lambda () (display "Hello, world!"))) 05:23:25 Error: (open-output-file) can not open file - Permission denied: "tmp.txt" 05:23:59 incubot: (current-directory) 05:23:59 Error: unbound variable: current-directory 05:24:10 oops, that's in posix 05:24:16 saccade_ [n=saccade@65.78.24.47] has joined #scheme 05:24:28 MichaelRaskin_ [n=raskin@chld.ru] has joined #scheme 05:25:03 incubot: (string-length (sprintf "~A" (get-call-chain))) 05:25:03 345 05:25:14 short enough 05:25:21 incubot: (get-call-chain) 05:25:21 (#(incubot-read.scm: 5 min #f #f) #(incubot-read.scm: 5 substring #f #f) #(incubot-read.scm: 5 print #f #f) #(incubot-read.scm: 7 read #f #f) #(incubot-read.scm: 7 iter #f #f) #(incubot-read.scm: 4 eval #f #f) #( (get-call-chain) ... 05:25:49 ok, he does truncate, phew 05:25:53 Wow, this lecture is boring... 05:26:05 as dull as this channel? 05:26:14 It's a toss-up. 05:26:23 I thought he was talking about the channel 05:26:41 -!- tjafk1 [n=timj@e176219236.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 05:26:44 This channel? *Dull?!* 05:26:56 Not anymore. 05:27:12 incubot: (reset) 05:27:13 incubot 05:27:18 DULL?? 05:27:30 incubot: (map (lambda (x) (vector-ref x 0)) (get-call-chain)) 05:27:30 (incubot-read.scm: 4 eval ) 05:27:46 incubot: (map (lambda (x) (vector-ref x 1)) (get-call-chain)) 05:27:46 (#f (map (lambda (x) (vector-ref x 1)) (get-call-chain)) (lambda (x) (vector-ref x 1)) (begin (vector-ref x 1)) (vector-ref x 1) (get-call-chain) (map (lambda (x) (vector-ref x 1)) (get-call-chain)) (get-call-chain)) 05:28:14 yikes. 05:28:21 don't hurt 'em 05:29:07 incubot: (load "/lib/libc.so.6") 05:29:07 Error: (open-input-file) can not open file - No such file or directory: "/lib/libc.so.6" 05:29:35 hadronzoo [n=hadronzo@adsl-70-250-184-34.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has joined #scheme 05:31:48 -!- jcowan [n=jcowan@cpe-74-68-154-18.nyc.res.rr.com] has quit ["Bailing out"] 05:32:09 incubot: (repository-path) 05:32:10 /usr/local/lib/chicken/3 05:33:42 oho 05:33:55 I think we are converging on a hypothesis: it's a *nix box 05:33:56 :-| 05:34:50 incubot: (argv) 05:34:51 (incubot-read) 05:35:44 now, that's a puzzler 05:36:53 incubot: (program-name) 05:36:53 incubot-read 05:37:01 interesting 05:37:07 incubot: (chicken-version #t) 05:37:07 SVN rev. 11987 compiled 2008-10-23 on amd (Linux) 05:37:46 incubot: (sprintf "~A" (chicken-version #t)) 05:37:46 SVN rev. 11987 compiled 2008-10-23 on amd (Linux) 05:38:01 duh, zbigniew 05:39:02 incubot: (string-translate (chicken-version #t) "\n\t" "::") 05:39:02 Version 3.4.0 - linux-unix-gnu-x86-64:[ 64bit manyargs ptables applyhook ]:SVN rev. 11987:compiled 2008-10-23 on amd (Linux) 05:39:29 incubot: (tcp-port-numbers (current-input-port)) 05:39:29 Error: unbound variable: tcp-port-numbers 05:40:59 now we're getting somewhere. 05:41:13 foof: would those numbers be interesting? 05:42:15 Well, it looks like incubot is being run as a child process, fed TCP I/O from the parent. 05:47:34 -!- replor [n=replor@EM114-48-144-123.pool.e-mobile.ne.jp] has quit [Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer)] 05:51:17 incubot: (with-input-from-file "/" read-byte) 05:51:17 #!eof 05:51:34 I'd considered that too 05:51:36 too lazy to do it 05:51:38 naturally 05:51:58 i wonder why fgetc() doesn't work on directories 05:52:41 can't find a doc that says it's illegal 05:54:05 because directories aren't character streams? 05:54:15 must be up to the OS; I know on HP-UX I've inadvertently catted a directory many times 05:54:33 directories _used to_ be character streams, back in the mists of history 05:54:37 you use HP-UX? 05:54:56 how many of you are there left in the world? 05:55:10 looks like pasttense 05:55:36 I said "used to be" 05:56:02 HP-UX allows catting of directories; I don't think I've seen another system that does so since then 05:56:21 I had to run some QA tests once on HP-UX. it was an ordeal to say the least 05:56:34 -!- foof [n=user@naist-wavenet126-194.naist.jp] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 05:56:59 well, you can open() a directory, you just can't fgetc() it 05:57:15 -!- dlouhy [n=jdlouhy@pinball.ccs.neu.edu] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 05:57:19 incubot: (open-input-file "/") 05:57:19 # 05:57:49 frankly I think the restriction from doing so the first nail in EIAF's coffin, and thus rather nasty 05:59:17 incubot: (getenv "PATH") 05:59:17 /home/pcdanenb/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/sbin:/sbin:/usr/kerberos/bin:/usr/lib64/ccache:/usr/local/bin:/bin:/usr/bin 05:59:25 incubot: (map (lambda (p) (map (lambda (f) (file-exists? 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Thank you Bottleworks. 06:17:40 when were you at Bottleworks? 06:17:49 And why didn't you come visit? I live like three blocks from there 06:18:32 My god. Dangerous. I used to live right by the Dick's. The smell of french fries in the morning. 06:18:45 still smells that way. 06:19:06 But this Westmalle is a Tripel's tripel. I... forsee... me on my ass. 06:19:12 although I'm generally only in the area to visit my beloved taco truck, which lives in the Winchell's parking lot a block East. 06:19:27 I can't take that sweet syrupy stuff any longer. 06:19:29 Y'all got a taco truck? Sweet. 06:19:44 The Westmalle really isn't syrupy. It is dry and deadly. 06:19:52 I personally keep Bottleworks in business: my wife goes through N 750ml bottles of Chimay per week, for large values of N. 06:20:03 Hubba hubba. 06:21:31 Mine doesn't drink the biere, but brings it to me. 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So links by itself on the intrepreter looks like: ("foofile.com/foobar.html" "foofile.com/foogoo.xml" "foofile.com") 08:29:47 I made it immutable because if I try to work with it, it tells me that mcar was used and I need to give it a mutable pair... how can I build what links represents into a list I can work with? 08:30:11 s/list/something/ 08:35:16 -!- synthasee [n=synthase@c-68-63-76-191.hsd1.al.comcast.net] has quit [Connection timed out] 08:37:54 hotblack23 [n=jh@p5B055BDE.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #scheme 08:38:13 planet says that it is either a listof string or bytes... I'm not sure how to work with bytes, but if I try to extract a string from it, I get that mcar error... 08:42:28 elmex [n=elmex@e180066115.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #scheme 08:50:57 antoszka [n=antoszka@unaffiliated/antoszka] has joined #scheme 08:52:38 saccade_ [n=saccade@65.78.24.47] has joined #scheme 08:53:03 regexp-match* returns a list of either strings or byte-strings, depending on the type of its input. Your example is not executable as presented. 08:53:04 -!- hark [n=strider@hark.slew.org] has quit ["leaving"] 08:53:38 -!- saccade_ [n=saccade@65.78.24.47] has quit [Client Quit] 08:55:45 (Pretend that you're filing a bug report.) 08:56:05 Are inet sockets and regex matching functions part of the standard library, or are they extensions to various Scheme implementations (and hence all differ somewhat)? 08:56:18 And what about inet6 sockets support? 08:56:29 What "standard library"? 08:56:49 I thought you'd ask that. :) 08:57:03 OK, are they part of RRS? 08:57:09 No. 08:57:32 OK. Which implementation would you suggest for best support of the above? 08:57:36 Read RRS. Even where (> whatever 5), it's very, very short. 08:57:50 (including inet6) 08:58:04 No clue. Don't do inet6. 08:58:33 Any impl consists of code. Code can be hacked. 08:59:24 Yeah, certainly. 08:59:43 Most of the major impls support inet4 in one manner or another. You'll only get hung up if you expect code to work seamlessly between impls. 09:00:09 As for inet6, though... sans clue. Sorry. 09:00:24 I'll just have a look. 09:00:39 Major: PLT, Chicken, MIT. Any other ones? 09:00:56 Gauche and Gambit. 09:01:00 Thanks. 09:01:26 GreyLensman [n=ray@c-76-108-235-51.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 09:02:12 -!- leppie [n=lolcow@dsl-243-29-203.telkomadsl.co.za] has quit [Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)] 09:02:49 leppie [n=lolcow@dsl-243-29-203.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #scheme 09:03:22 -!- GreyLensman [n=ray@c-76-108-235-51.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has left #scheme 09:11:48 antoszka: also Chez and Bigloo; but nobody seems to mention them much (except arcfide the former) 09:12:09 *sjamaan* mentions the real underdog: guile 09:13:27 klutometis: as long as we're showing love for underdogs, Larceny. 09:13:37 And sjamaan, for shame. 09:13:45 ? 09:14:33 Guile. Really, now. It is soooo uncool (why? I have no idea). 09:15:18 heh, yeah 09:15:25 That's why it's the underdog! 09:15:55 -!- raikov [n=igr@203.181.243.11] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 09:16:23 Daemmerung, I hope this is what you mean: http://paste.lisp.org/display/71629 09:17:30 I should note that neil's htmlprag was fileinject'd as I received a hack from a generous fellow on the mailing list 09:17:47 the original is not compatible with >v4 09:18:55 CaptainMorgan: I was glad to see you getting help there. But you know that your code is therefore not reproducible anywhere else.... 09:20:30 not sure why it wouldn't be... all that's needed is the hackjob inserted into your local cache 09:20:42 klutometis: thx 09:22:38 AshyIsMe [n=User@220.157.86.160] has joined #scheme 09:23:18 phao [n=phao@20158159067.user.veloxzone.com.br] has joined #scheme 09:23:22 granting what you've said Daemmerung, how might I build what regex-match* returns? in either strings or bytes I can't figure out how to build from it... 09:24:00 it would appear that xexpr is the culprit as it ultimately returns a 'contract' which seems to fudge up any extracting 09:24:20 xexpr->string 09:24:21 rather 09:24:44 Why do you think that? 09:25:05 (contract? (xexpr->string page)) returns #t 09:25:18 (flat-contract? also returns #t 09:25:38 Heck if I know. I'm sorry. 09:25:56 plt docs mention that contracting prevents ... say, interference, for lack of a better word... 09:28:27 -!- hotblack23 [n=jh@p5B055BDE.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 09:28:30 Let me rubberduck for a sec. You're loading some hacked htmlprag, right? And that htmlprag has been hacked to use mutable conses instead of immutable? 09:28:58 mutable, correct 09:29:43 So you're getting a mutable cons back from your call into htmlprag. 09:30:08 And then passing that mutable cons to regex-whatever. 09:30:52 aye 09:31:35 Is the problem that regex-whatever doesn't know what to do with a mutable cons? 09:32:00 possibly, but then that throws htmlprag out the window... 09:32:28 Not necessarily. Is it possible to convert a chain of mutable conses to the immutable variety? 09:32:43 I was just thinking that... but I'm not sure 09:32:54 .. not sure how. 09:34:09 pardon my subjunctive-- I have no experience with htmlprag-- I have no idea what procedures it exports, or whathose procs might expect and return-- just guessing. 09:36:10 mlist->list 09:38:52 -!- jeremiah [n=jeremiah@31.Red-213-98-123.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 09:39:06 interesting... but I'm trying to see where in this source file mlist is coming from... 09:39:31 testing mlist? at this time says I'm referencing an identifier before its definition 09:39:41 -!- leppie [n=lolcow@dsl-243-29-203.telkomadsl.co.za] has quit [Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)] 09:40:15 leppie [n=lolcow@dsl-243-29-203.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #scheme 09:42:09 ah.. missing the (require scheme/mpair) 09:44:16 CaptainMorgan: is it you that's been playing around with PLT for several days instead of getting down to work? 09:44:21 Daemmerung, thank you for you assistance, you've nevertheless shed some light on the issue 09:44:42 klutometis, we all need to play once in a while 09:44:46 heh 09:45:15 what i mean is: are you dealing with some bizarre PLTism that could be easily solved with another scheme? 09:45:38 would be great if I knew the answer to that question 09:45:49 htmlprag works fine under chicken, for instance 09:45:56 used it myself a few months ago 09:46:17 "months" ? I recall v4 coming out this fall, no? 09:46:36 jewel [n=jewel@dsl-242-139-18.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #scheme 09:46:56 gonna have to look into it.. 09:47:24 klutometis, so you don't recommend plt, typically..? 09:48:01 CaptainMorgan: it seems to have a painful array of sublanguages 09:48:26 hmm.. that's what I've been trying to wrap my brain around and I'm running out of brain cells 09:48:33 alaricsp [n=alaricsp@217.205.201.45] has joined #scheme 09:48:46 http://chicken.wiki.br/htmlprag describes the chicken egg, by the way; can't tell what upstream version they've synced with 09:49:24 Unlikely it's any different that the version in PLT. htmlprag hasn't changed in a long-a time-a. 09:49:31 that's what i thought 09:49:44 i still think gordon ramsay would have a fucking field day with PLT, though 09:50:24 heh! 09:52:24 -!- synx [i=synx@gateway/gpg-tor/key-0xA71B0C6A] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 09:52:59 I think I could be more helpful if I 1) had any experience with htmlprag, or 2) really understood the problem that CaptainMorgan is experiencing-- I'm taking oblique guesses at both. 09:53:43 But regardless, my current task is finally out of the oven. 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Sorry, I was away all day yesterday. 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That suggests that somebody at Brown tripped over a power cord. 17:10:48 (or ran out of AA batteries, or something) 17:11:13 or Brown was taken down by a North Korean attack 17:11:53 That silly Kim Jong Il. He should just ask for an extension like any other student! 17:13:11 -!- sladegen [n=nemo@unaffiliated/sladegen] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 17:13:21 sladegen [n=nemo@unaffiliated/sladegen] has joined #scheme 17:20:07 mejja [n=user@c-4db6e555.023-82-73746f38.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #scheme 17:20:59 -!- orgy` [n=ratm_@pD9FFECB2.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 17:22:39 edw [n=user@poseur.com] has joined #scheme 17:23:42 -!- jonrafkind [n=jon@c-98-202-86-149.hsd1.ut.comcast.net] has quit [Connection timed out] 17:26:17 jonrafkind [n=jon@wireless260.wireless.utah.edu] has joined #scheme 17:28:57 -!- a-s [n=user@92.80.72.93] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 17:34:40 -!- sam_ [n=Sami__@vallila-gw.hupnet.helsinki.fi] has quit [] 17:35:21 -!- drdo [n=psykon@wifi.ist.utl.pt] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 17:39:16 still cut off from email... it leads me to ponder what alternatives to email might be less tempting for ISPs to block. 17:40:05 synx: ah, your problem is that you directed your mails towards your home server, but your isp blocks it? 17:42:24 orgy` [n=ratm_@pD9FFECB2.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #scheme 17:42:24 pretty much. I don't have access to any other email server really. 17:42:37 gmail? 17:43:35 ah. you could simply rent a cheap virtual server, set up openvpn there, and setup a daemon that forwards all traffic on port 25 to your home server through the openvpn tunnel 17:43:51 leppie: hard to filter 17:44:11 filter what? how much spam u get? 17:44:21 karsten_: Sure. Will you be sending me the $20 a month by postage? 17:44:46 leppie: A few hundred a week maybe...? I don't usually keep track. 17:45:38 i dont get it, i have had the same email addy now for 10+ years, and i get 1-2 spam a month maybe 17:45:50 I sign up for a lot of mailing lists. 17:46:08 synx: servers start at around 5 euros here in germany. i doubt they are that much more expensive the us. 17:46:34 if u signup with a gmail account (which i use for that) it gets rid of most of the spam 17:46:48 Is the euro worth $5 USA dollars now? 17:47:02 i forward all my mail to gmail too, and let them filter it 17:47:04 leppie: And I never see the false positives either. :/ 17:47:07 it's around $1.20 17:47:18 Besides it's a bad idea to have us doing everything under Google's watchful eye. 17:47:19 AtnNn [n=welcome@modemcable230.56-56-74.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #scheme 17:47:34 karsten_: Then yes, they are that much more expensive. 17:47:44 synx; i dont really care what people see about me 17:48:13 leppie: yeah, but the google mail filter eats all your non-regular email 17:48:21 leppie: You are hurting the people who do though. 17:48:31 synx: then you should maybe rent a server in europe :) 17:48:45 I can't get most mailing lists through a typical spam filter. Usually filter them out beforehand, or at least I did :p 17:49:08 karsten_: Yeah... those usually don't rent to the USA though. 17:49:33 karsten_: eats? 17:50:27 leppie: "moves it to the spam folder, along with 2878 other mails that arrive there each day" 17:50:29 meaning some arb person sends you a link, and it gets detected as spam? 17:50:38 oh 17:50:49 I really need some kind of employment more than anything... monthly costs really eat into a 0-income bank account. 17:52:04 lol, i have 1 spam message in the spam folder... ;P 17:52:17 from nov 25 17:52:32 do you guys sign up for a lot of porn? 17:52:50 no, i just use mail addresse for 10 years 17:53:19 i said that too... 17:53:35 you cannot avoid getting spam. send a mail to a mailing list, it ends up at google groups, and voila, you are in the next "1 million mail addresse for $10" package 17:54:39 i do really get pissed off if I get put on some mailing list, like some stupid bank did, but lucky its low volume 17:54:41 jgracin [n=jgracin@82.193.208.195] has joined #scheme 17:56:50 karsten_: i post to google groups and have not gotten any spam from there; i do use my gmail account for that 17:57:33 but i do post via the web interface ;P 17:58:02 sam_ [n=Sami__@vallila-gw.hupnet.helsinki.fi] has joined #scheme 17:58:52 i do have some accounts that I use purely for spam/suspected spam 17:59:04 but i never check them 17:59:12 -!- sam_ [n=Sami__@vallila-gw.hupnet.helsinki.fi] has quit [Client Quit] 18:00:02 sam_ [n=Sami__@vallila-gw.hupnet.helsinki.fi] has joined #scheme 18:01:17 The problem with having just one email is, if it gets targeted by spam, you have to cut everyone else off. 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20:49:40 Ah. That suggests that somebody at Brown tripped over a power cord. 20:51:44 k 20:52:17 -!- orgy` [n=ratm_@pD9FFECB2.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 20:54:36 -!- hiyuh [n=hiyuh@KD125054017176.ppp-bb.dion.ne.jp] has quit ["|_ e /\ \/ i |/| G"] 20:56:25 Vaeshir [n=zane@129.10.235.145] has joined #scheme 20:58:02 -!- hml [n=x@unaffiliated/hml] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 20:59:07 MichaelRaskin_ [n=raskin@gwh-1-177-mytn23k1.ln.rinet.ru] has joined #scheme 21:08:20 amoe [n=amoe@cpc3-brig3-0-0-cust346.brig.cable.ntl.com] has joined #scheme 21:09:10 *mbishop__* trips over the wireless 21:09:11 lelf [n=lelf@217.118.90.134] has joined #scheme 21:10:20 -!- lelf [n=lelf@217.118.90.134] has quit [Client Quit] 21:10:35 -!- jewel [n=jewel@dsl-242-165-14.telkomadsl.co.za] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 21:11:29 lelf [n=lelf@217.118.90.160] has joined #scheme 21:12:22 -!- mbishop__ is now known as mbishop 21:16:37 choas_ [n=lars@p5B0DF52E.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #scheme 21:19:16 -!- jeff_ is now known as dlouhy 21:20:13 jewel [n=jewel@dsl-242-165-14.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #scheme 21:20:31 -!- choas [n=lars@p5B0DF52E.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 21:22:37 -!- elias` [n=me@unaffiliated/elias/x-342423] has quit [Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)] 21:35:56 kib2 [n=kib@bd137-1-82-228-159-28.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #scheme 21:40:39 mejja, submit a GCC bug report, please! 21:47:13 -!- drdo [n=psykon@167.111.54.77.rev.vodafone.pt] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 21:47:17 -!- kniu [n=kniu@OLAWDYME.RES.CMU.EDU] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 21:48:01 kniu [n=kniu@CMU-311358.WV.CC.CMU.EDU] has joined #scheme 21:51:40 maybe I should go into accounting 21:52:24 if you can't even make patches regularly on sourceforge, you're a pretty lousy programmer no? 21:52:53 -!- Vaeshir [n=zane@129.10.235.145] has quit [] 21:53:35 Riastradh: So what you are saying is that GCC miscompiles the compiled code interface? 22:01:26 -!- sam_ [n=Sami__@vallila-gw.hupnet.helsinki.fi] has quit [] 22:01:27 -!- hotblack23 [n=jh@p5B055E68.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 22:02:28 No, mejja. 22:02:44 LIAR is wrong. But so is GCC: int lose (int a, int b) { return (a << b); } 22:02:53 Actually, please take a cluebat through a time machine to Intel. 22:03:01 drdo [n=psykon@167.111.54.77.rev.vodafone.pt] has joined #scheme 22:03:31 -!- lelf [n=lelf@217.118.90.160] has quit ["used jmIrc"] 22:05:38 exexex [n=chatzill@88.234.184.115] has joined #scheme 22:10:20 sam_ [n=Sami__@vallila-gw.hupnet.helsinki.fi] has joined #scheme 22:12:36 -!- tltstc [n=tltstc@cpe-76-90-92-154.socal.res.rr.com] has quit [Connection timed out] 22:15:13 -!- annodomini [n=lambda@wikipedia/lambda] has quit [] 22:15:23 -!- saccade_ [n=saccade@65.78.24.47] has quit [Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)] 22:16:17 saccade_ [n=saccade@65.78.24.47] has joined #scheme 22:16:29 karsten_ [n=karsten@dslb-088-072-254-180.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #scheme 22:16:32 -!- roconnor [n=roconnor@206-45-117-102.static.mts.net] has quit [Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)] 22:16:43 tltstc [n=tltstc@cpe-76-90-92-154.socal.res.rr.com] has joined #scheme 22:23:18 -!- amoe [n=amoe@cpc3-brig3-0-0-cust346.brig.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 22:24:58 -!- tizoc [n=user@r190-135-35-77.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has quit [Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)] 22:25:05 tizoc_ [n=user@r190-135-11-106.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has joined #scheme 22:25:38 -!- AtnNn [n=welcome@modemcable230.56-56-74.mc.videotron.ca] has quit ["strawberries"] 22:26:56 Riastradh: Hehe. 22:27:12 mejja annotated #71559 with "we're all screwed" at http://paste.lisp.org/display/71559#2 22:27:48 -!- sam_ [n=Sami__@vallila-gw.hupnet.helsinki.fi] has quit [] 22:29:47 mejja annotated #71559 with "putting on a rubber..." at http://paste.lisp.org/display/71559#3 22:30:16 cracki [n=cracki@sglty.kawo2.RWTH-Aachen.DE] has joined #scheme 22:30:30 -!- bpt [n=bpt@cpe-071-070-209-067.nc.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 22:34:48 -!- hkBst [n=hkBst@gentoo/developer/hkbst] has quit [Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)] 22:37:28 jcowan [n=jcowan@72.14.228.89] has joined #scheme 22:38:55 amoe [n=amoe@cpc3-brig3-0-0-cust346.brig.cable.ntl.com] has joined #scheme 22:39:12 roconnor [n=roconnor@bsjrmb01dc1-246-242.dynamic.mts.net] has joined #scheme 22:42:17 -!- langmartin [n=user@75.148.111.133] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 22:42:41 a1len_ [n=James@cpe-76-174-234-139.socal.res.rr.com] has joined #scheme 22:42:57 bpt [n=bpt@cpe-071-070-209-067.nc.res.rr.com] has joined #scheme 22:43:36 -!- exexex [n=chatzill@88.234.184.115] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 22:45:50 -!- a1len_ [n=James@cpe-76-174-234-139.socal.res.rr.com] has quit [Client Quit] 22:46:30 Vaeshir [n=zane@c-66-31-28-121.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 22:46:32 -!- npe [n=npe@32.97.110.63] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 22:47:31 CaptainMorgan: Yes, brown is suffering some major breakage. It was supposed to be restored by now, but things are bad. I've changed some names and it should be up from a temporary machine soon. 23:00:32 they've had quite a number of breakages in the past year 23:01:00 eli, maybe things should be moved to a different server? 23:04:30 -!- amoe [n=amoe@cpc3-brig3-0-0-cust346.brig.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 23:04:50 amoe [n=amoe@cpc3-brig3-0-0-cust346.brig.cable.ntl.com] has joined #scheme 23:05:14 sam_ [n=Sami__@hoasnet-fe1add00-113.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #scheme 23:05:32 -!- aneqrs [n=andreas@c83-253-104-206.bredband.comhem.se] has quit [Connection timed out] 23:06:25 -!- kniu [n=kniu@CMU-311358.WV.CC.CMU.EDU] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 23:06:26 aneqrs [n=andreas@c83-253-104-206.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #scheme 23:06:58 Arelius [n=Indy@209.77.67.98] has joined #scheme 23:07:11 -!- ecraven [n=nex@140.78.42.103] has quit ["bbl"] 23:10:02 those damn kids 23:11:04 -!- moghar [n=user@unaffiliated/moghar] has left #scheme 23:15:03 -!- jgracin [n=jgracin@82.193.208.195] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 23:18:45 errordeveloper [n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk] has joined #scheme 23:20:16 kniu [n=kniu@OLAWDYME.RES.CMU.EDU] has joined #scheme 23:27:34 -!- puchacz [n=puchacz@87-194-5-99.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 23:29:08 -!- name [n=name@sburn/devel/name] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 23:32:16 -!- error_developer_ [n=errordev@78-86-1-110.zone2.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 23:32:38 -!- olgen [n=jacobm@0x535f66c5.bynxx14.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk] has quit [] 23:40:17 -!- phao [n=phao@189.13.131.116] has quit ["Leaving"] 23:44:06 -!- DuClare [n=duclare@a81-197-106-84.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 23:44:16 DuClare [n=duclare@a81-197-106-84.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #scheme 23:44:48 -!- jlongster [n=user@75.148.111.133] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 23:46:21 -!- jewel [n=jewel@dsl-242-165-14.telkomadsl.co.za] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 23:53:38 -!- AshyIsMe [n=User@220.157.86.160] has quit ["Leaving"] 23:55:09 -!- choas_ [n=lars@p5B0DF52E.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ["leaving"] 23:56:43 bombshelter13_ [n=bombshel@209-161-228-143.dsl.look.ca] has joined #scheme 23:57:08 -!- jcowan [n=jcowan@72.14.228.89] has left #scheme 23:58:30 dsmith [n=dsmith@66.178.229.162] has joined #scheme