00:02:22 -!- fsk141 [n=jg@ip67-155-224-242.z224-155-67.customer.algx.net] has quit ["Lost terminal"] 00:05:45 -!- athos [n=philipp@92.250.204.223] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 00:06:07 -!- a-s [n=user@92.80.98.132] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 00:21:03 annodomini [n=lambda@c-75-69-96-104.hsd1.nh.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 00:25:44 kniu [n=kniu@OLAWDYME.RES.CMU.EDU] has joined #scheme 00:28:09 lolo2 [n=lolo@c-66-41-166-41.hsd1.mn.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 00:28:55 can someone tell me how to turn (() ()) into (() (5)) ? 00:29:37 -!- kniu [n=kniu@OLAWDYME.RES.CMU.EDU] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 00:33:55 lolo2: '(() (5)) 00:34:18 sctb with set-cdr! if possible 00:35:06 (set-sdr! var (cons (5) ())) ??? 00:35:17 set-cdr i mean 00:35:50 lolo2: Think about it this way, you want to replace the CAR of the CDR of '(() ()) with '(5) 00:36:26 yes but i want (() (5)) not (() 5) so im confused 00:36:39 I said replace it with '(5). 00:36:43 ooo :) 00:36:45 nice 00:36:46 thanks! 00:40:24 sctb i needed to use (set-cdr! var '((5))) 00:40:38 but thanks you led me to it 00:41:08 kniu [n=kniu@OLAWDYME.RES.CMU.EDU] has joined #scheme 00:41:39 (set-car! (cdr var) '(5)) 00:43:00 arelius that did not work for me 00:43:06 ..sec 00:44:30 -!- phao [n=phao@20158145055.user.veloxzone.com.br] has quit ["Leaving"] 00:44:44 arelius sorry it did work i typo 00:44:57 Ahh, cool 00:45:05 just pulled up a repl to give it a test 00:45:34 whats the diff between our two solutions? 00:46:39 well 00:46:54 in my solution 00:47:40 (cdr var) refers to the list (() . ()) 00:47:52 and we are setting the car of that to (5) 00:48:01 yes 00:48:17 thus ending up with a var of (() . ((5) . ())) 00:48:23 in yours 00:48:29 -!- arcfide [n=arcfide@h-69-3-100-112.chcgilgm.dynamic.covad.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 00:48:41 you are setting var which is 00:48:49 (() . (() . ())) 00:49:05 -!- Mr_SpOOn [n=Mr_SpOOn@89-97-102-218.ip17.fastwebnet.it] has quit [Connection timed out] 00:49:08 to ((5)) 00:49:24 which is equal to ((5) . ()) 00:49:28 so, the result is the same 00:49:34 but in my solution 00:49:53 I leave the outer ( ... . ()) in place 00:49:56 and set it's car 00:50:05 while you are replacing the whole thing 00:50:36 does anyone know what the error message "syntax: missing ellipses with pattern variable in template in: value" is trying to tell me? 00:50:36 i see... wow thanks i think this is the most helpful anyone has ever been to me on the net! 00:51:01 I'm glad that made some sort of sense 00:51:09 as I imagined it would be hard to follow 00:51:44 the only part that was confusing is you said i ended up with ((5) . ()) when i got (() (5)) 00:51:48 -!- sam_ [n=Sami__@hoasnet-fe1add00-113.dhcp.inet.fi] has quit [] 00:52:02 so. that's pair notation 00:52:13 its mixed up order 00:52:30 that;s the last thing 00:52:33 the whole var is 00:52:40 err whole var ends up as 00:52:52 (() . ((5) . ())) 00:52:57 the section I said 00:52:59 sam_ [n=Sami__@hoasnet-fe1add00-113.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #scheme 00:53:05 is the cdr of the whole var 00:53:07 so 00:53:22 (cdr var) == ((5) . ()) 00:53:31 i see now :) 00:53:38 because lists in scheme are just null terminated pairs 00:53:46 so when you write (1 2 3 4) 00:53:51 when written in pairs it ends up as 00:54:12 (1 . (2 . (3 . (4 . ())))) 00:54:18 -!- sam_ [n=Sami__@hoasnet-fe1add00-113.dhcp.inet.fi] has quit [Client Quit] 00:54:20 and I was just showing the later hald 00:54:25 `Variables' do not have cdrs. Variables may have values, which may be lists, and lists may have cdrs (specifically, if they are non-empty, i.e. pairs). 00:54:35 -!- cemerick [n=la_mer@75.147.38.122] has quit [] 00:54:48 awesome! thanks 00:55:16 NP 00:55:26 Riastradh: Right 00:55:39 pchrist_ [n=spirit@gentoo/developer/pchrist] has joined #scheme 00:59:25 gweiqi [n=greg@69.120.126.163] has joined #scheme 01:04:47 -!- aneqrs [n=andreas@c83-253-104-206.bredband.comhem.se] has quit [] 01:07:27 -!- pchrist [n=spirit@gentoo/developer/pchrist] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 01:15:17 fschwidom [n=fschwido@dslb-084-059-233-135.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #scheme 01:21:21 synthasee [n=synthase@c-68-63-76-191.hsd1.al.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 01:23:57 http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=4aGDCE6Nrz0 01:24:33 -!- sctb [n=sctb@mail.arcurve.com] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 01:28:38 hey arelius my program works perfect as far as what I want it to do but i get #!unspecific every time i use that set-car! deal do you know how to make it go away? 01:30:28 -!- annodomini [n=lambda@wikipedia/lambda] has quit [] 01:30:40 So, the return type of set-car! is unspecified 01:31:05 i just want it so say 'ok or somthing 01:31:11 but it says 'ok#!unspecific 01:31:13 and whatever you are running you're program in seems to be outputting the results of you're statements 01:31:15 http://blog.hagander.net/archives/128-guid.html 01:32:58 lolo2: you could wrap the statement in a begin and end it with "OK" 01:33:00 eg. 01:33:24 (begin (set-car! (cdr var) '(5)) "OK) 01:33:46 but I may recomend just running it in something that doesn't display the result of every statement 01:34:11 so is it the mit-scheme not the code? 01:36:03 it worked like a charm! thanks again 01:37:00 the thing is 01:37:09 if you write 5 in mitscheme 01:37:13 it'll output 5 01:37:17 yeah 01:37:27 and (+ 3 2) would also output 5 01:37:32 yeah 01:37:45 and set-car just returns #Unspecified 01:37:52 I suspect there is a way to turn that off 01:38:07 when you run it as a script instead of in the REPL 01:38:15 but I don't know with mitscheme 01:38:41 ;Value: #[primitive-procedure set-car!] is the resault of set-car! for me 01:38:48 yeah 01:39:05 the result of the variable is the procedure 01:39:11 but the result of running it is unspecified 01:39:17 (set-car! ...) 01:39:19 yeah :) 01:39:37 so begin hides that somehow? 01:40:15 well what begin does 01:40:24 is it execs everything, but only returns the last 01:40:29 so 01:40:39 (begin 2 4 5 6 7) will return 7 01:40:47 i get it! :) 01:41:36 tizoc_ [n=user@r190-135-5-68.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has joined #scheme 01:42:18 I remeber other examples of things only doing the last thing you specify but i cant remember an example 01:42:34 how are you running y ou're script? 01:42:52 (load "a.scm") in mitscheme 01:45:08 try doing a (load-noisily?) before calling load 01:45:17 errr 01:45:24 ? 01:45:34 -!- tizoc [n=user@r190-135-67-136.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 01:45:35 (set load-noisily? #f) 01:46:10 ;Unbound variable: set 01:46:12 http://groups.csail.mit.edu/mac/projects/scheme/documentation/user_4.html#SEC30 01:46:13 -rudybot:#scheme- http://tinyurl.com/5f6mxn 01:46:45 annodomini [n=lambda@c-75-69-96-104.hsd1.nh.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 01:47:41 -!- Riastradh [n=rias@pool-141-154-225-78.bos.east.verizon.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 01:47:50 hmm, not sure exactally 01:48:01 but I suspect it has something to do with that variable 01:48:05 check the docs 01:48:10 I linked 01:48:21 thannks :) 01:51:12 Well im off thanks again arelius! 01:51:18 Take care 01:51:20 -!- lolo2 [n=lolo@c-66-41-166-41.hsd1.mn.comcast.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 01:52:29 -!- offby1 [n=user@q-static-138-125.avvanta.com] has quit ["ERC be messed up"] 01:53:24 Riastradh [n=rias@pool-151-203-198-69.bos.east.verizon.net] has joined #scheme 01:53:50 -!- fschwidom [n=fschwido@dslb-084-059-233-135.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 01:59:53 -!- tizoc_ is now known as tizoc 02:02:54 -!- saccade_ [n=saccade@dhcp-18-188-73-185.dyn.mit.edu] has quit ["This computer has gone to sleep"] 02:03:33 -!- hemulen [n=hemulen@cpe-069-134-114-252.nc.res.rr.com] has quit ["He rode off into the sunset. . ."] 02:03:36 -!- underspecified [n=eric@softbank220043052011.bbtec.net] has quit [] 02:06:00 foof`: Interesting about Postgresql was it you who said the C-API had some nice features yesterday? 02:08:48 Riastrad1 [n=rias@pool-151-203-198-69.bos.east.verizon.net] has joined #scheme 02:08:59 -!- Riastradh [n=rias@pool-151-203-198-69.bos.east.verizon.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 02:15:12 Riastradh [n=rias@pool-151-203-198-69.bos.east.verizon.net] has joined #scheme 02:15:22 -!- Riastrad1 [n=rias@pool-151-203-198-69.bos.east.verizon.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 02:18:15 -!- sladegen [n=nemo@unaffiliated/sladegen] has quit ["Anarchy saves!"] 02:19:49 offby1 [n=user@74.203.51.134] has joined #scheme 02:21:14 mdmkolbe [n=adamsmd@batman.cs.indiana.edu] has joined #scheme 02:21:49 -!- offby1 [n=user@74.203.51.134] has quit [Client Quit] 02:22:35 offby1 [n=user@q-static-138-125.avvanta.com] has joined #scheme 02:23:12 What is the best way to parse a decimal fraction into an exact number? (Best = R6RS, fast and portable) Examples include "11/5" (all fractions are small relative-prime integer numbers) 02:24:57 read up to the /; store that integer; read the remaining digits; store _that_ integer.\ 02:25:01 Now you have two integers. 02:27:44 *mdmkolbe* just realized string->number actually takes care of this 02:28:09 (I had assumed string->number only did integers and decimal floats, but tests show it doing fractions as well) 02:28:12 hah, it does 02:29:45 rudybot: eval 123/456 02:29:46 offby1: ; Value: 41/152 02:29:53 -!- incubot [n=incubot@24.205.65.135] has quit [Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)] 02:29:58 that doesn't count, since PLT has exact ratios 02:30:18 rudybot: eval (string->number "123/456") 02:30:19 offby1: ; Value: 41/152 02:30:22 rudybot: eval (string->number "123/456.") 02:30:23 offby1: ; Value: #f 02:30:30 rudybot: eval (string->number "123./456") 02:30:30 offby1: ; Value: #f 02:31:56 -!- dnm [n=dnm@c-68-49-46-251.hsd1.va.comcast.net] has quit [] 02:32:01 offby1: R6RS has exact ratios 02:32:08 oh. 02:32:19 that would explain your observation, then :) 02:32:27 -!- annodomini [n=lambda@wikipedia/lambda] has quit [] 02:34:37 jcowan [n=jcowan@cpe-74-68-154-18.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #scheme 02:34:54 incubot [n=incubot@24.205.65.135] has joined #scheme 02:37:32 -!- Mr_Awesome [n=eric@isr5956.urh.uiuc.edu] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 02:38:51 -!- Debolaz2 is now known as Debolaz 02:53:23 -!- bombshelter13 [n=bombshel@209-161-228-143.dsl.look.ca] has quit [] 02:53:42 -!- jonrafkind [n=jon@wireless206.wireless.utah.edu] has quit [Connection timed out] 02:54:00 bombshelter13 [n=bombshel@209-161-228-143.dsl.look.ca] has joined #scheme 03:00:26 bpt_ [n=bpt@cpe-071-070-209-067.nc.res.rr.com] has joined #scheme 03:00:34 -!- bpt [n=bpt@cpe-071-070-209-067.nc.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 03:04:34 underspecified [n=eric@clair16.naist.jp] has joined #scheme 03:05:39 -!- duncanm [n=duncan@a-chinaman.com] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 03:05:52 -!- Debolaz [n=debolaz@nat.andersberle.com] has quit ["Leaving"] 03:11:36 langmartin [n=user@adsl-074-167-038-128.sip.cha.bellsouth.net] has joined #scheme 03:17:48 Debolaz [n=debolaz@nat.andersberle.com] has joined #scheme 03:19:47 is there a good r6rs function that splits a string on white spaces? e.g. "a b c" -> '("a" "b" "c") 03:23:27 jonrafkind [n=jon@c-98-202-86-149.hsd1.ut.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 03:26:07 not that I see. There is string-tokenize from SRFI 13 03:35:28 that's probably what I'd use 03:35:36 of course, I wouldn't limit myself to R6RS, but that's jus tme 03:36:41 -!- araujo [n=araujo@gentoo/developer/araujo] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 03:40:50 -!- melito [n=melito@70.99.250.82] has quit ["Leaving..."] 03:41:17 -!- Nshag [i=user@Mix-Orleans-106-4-187.w193-248.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit ["Quitte"] 03:42:59 -!- Daemmerung [n=goetter@64.146.161.228] has quit ["Smoove out."] 03:46:11 offby1` [n=user@q-static-138-125.avvanta.com] has joined #scheme 03:47:16 saccade_ [n=saccade@65.78.24.47] has joined #scheme 03:52:07 Cale_ [n=Cale@CPE001c10c70239-CM000e5cdd834a.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #scheme 03:52:16 -!- offby1 [n=user@q-static-138-125.avvanta.com] has quit [Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)] 03:55:48 Arelius: Not I, though it does. 03:57:15 -!- offby1` is now known as offby1 04:02:38 elmex_ [n=elmex@e180069141.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #scheme 04:02:58 araujo [n=araujo@gentoo/developer/araujo] has joined #scheme 04:04:52 annodomini [n=lambda@c-75-69-96-104.hsd1.nh.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 04:05:29 -!- Cale [n=Cale@CPE001c10c70239-CM000e5cdd834a.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 04:05:31 -!- Cale_ is now known as Cale 04:08:51 augustbankr [n=augustba@68-116-166-32.dhcp.oxfr.ma.charter.com] has joined #scheme 04:13:06 -!- mdmkolbe [n=adamsmd@batman.cs.indiana.edu] has quit ["Leaving."] 04:17:39 -!- elmex [n=elmex@e180066054.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 04:17:39 -!- elmex_ is now known as elmex 04:21:12 Mr_Awesome [n=eric@isr5956.urh.uiuc.edu] has joined #scheme 04:30:02 rudybot: eval (kill-thread (current-thread)) 04:30:03 eli: error: with-limit: out of memory 04:30:21 liar. 04:35:19 -!- augustbankr [n=augustba@68-116-166-32.dhcp.oxfr.ma.charter.com] has quit ["Leaving"] 04:36:16 saccade__ [n=saccade@65.78.24.47] has joined #scheme 04:37:15 weird 04:37:18 rudybot: eval (kill-thread (current-thread)) 04:37:18 offby1: error: with-limit: out of memory 04:37:19 rudybot: eval (kill-thread (current-thread)) 04:37:20 offby1: error: with-limit: out of memory 04:37:27 resilient anyway. 04:38:36 -!- saccade_ [n=saccade@65.78.24.47] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 04:38:40 -!- saccade__ is now known as saccade_ 04:40:57 -!- kniu [n=kniu@OLAWDYME.RES.CMU.EDU] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 04:41:16 kniu [n=kniu@CMU-311358.WV.CC.CMU.EDU] has joined #scheme 04:43:46 offby1: Yes, it's not a hole -- just a problem in the way that running out of memory is detected. What happens is that any "unexpected" way that the computation ends is taken as meaning that it ran out of memory. 04:44:04 rudybot: eval (custodian-shutdown-all (current-custodian)) 04:44:04 eli: error: with-limit: out of memory 04:44:23 *nod 04:44:35 error: with-limit: sumpin' bad happened 04:44:47 Hopefully, someone (*cough*) will find a solution soon. 04:45:15 rudybot: eval (semaphore-wait (make-semaphore 0)) 04:45:15 *offby1* looks at his feet 04:45:17 eli: error: with-limit: out of time 04:45:28 nice 04:45:56 *eli* is still in southpark mode 04:45:57 nice 04:46:02 nicccccce 04:47:04 rudybot: (letrec ((f (lambda () f))) (f)) 04:47:38 *eli* looks at offby1's feet 04:48:12 Many years later.... 04:48:14 -!- AtnNn [n=welcome@modemcable230.56-56-74.mc.videotron.ca] has quit ["strawberry"] 04:49:15 jcowan: gots to say "eval". 04:49:23 It don't mean a thing if it ain't got that eval. 04:50:02 [jcowan: And BTW, that's not a loop.] 04:50:10 True. 04:50:26 rudybot: eval (letrec ((f (lambda () (f)))) (f)) 04:50:29 jcowan: error: with-limit: out of time 04:50:35 That's better. 04:50:39 niiicccccce 04:51:23 rudybot: eval (let ((p (cons 1 1))) (set-cdr! p p)) 04:51:24 jcowan: error: reference to undefined identifier: set-cdr! 04:51:31 Ooh, nasty. 04:51:36 *jcowan* is being different. 04:51:41 rudybot: eval (let ((p (mcons 1 1))) (set-mcdr! p p)) 04:51:49 hmm 04:51:54 rudybot: eval (let ((p (mcons 1 1))) (set-mcdr! p p) p) 04:51:54 offby1: ; Value: #0={1 . #0#} 04:51:57 there ya go 04:52:12 you vere expecting, mebbe, and infnit lup? 04:52:24 I was wondering if I could create an infinite loop in the printer. 04:52:49 so how's life on the small island? 04:53:30 *offby1* fantasizes about working for some hep startup walking distance from Houston & Ludlow 04:54:21 -!- JohnnyL [i=JohnnyL@ool-182ddad4.dyn.optonline.net] has left #scheme 04:54:24 Much the same: biggest excitement is whether Bloomberg will actually get re-elected next year. 04:54:38 At least in my circles. The small island is really a congeries of small towns. 04:55:18 like Paris 04:55:26 but they're all circular?! 04:55:42 what goes in the gaps between them, then? Old garbage? 04:56:22 They aren't necessarily geographically defined. 04:56:30 And it's hardly our fault that we don't have back alleys. 04:57:04 *jcowan* 's city is self-sufficient in everything but space for garbage and prisoners. 04:58:25 -!- gweiqi [n=greg@69.120.126.163] has left #scheme 04:59:11 -!- araujo [n=araujo@gentoo/developer/araujo] has quit ["Leaving"] 05:02:48 -!- elmex [n=elmex@e180069141.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 05:05:53 offby1` [n=user@q-static-138-125.avvanta.com] has joined #scheme 05:09:24 -!- offby1 [n=user@q-static-138-125.avvanta.com] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 05:09:27 -!- offby1` is now known as offby1 05:10:27 tjafk1 [n=timj@e176203243.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #scheme 05:14:08 -!- jjong [n=jjong@203.246.179.177] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 05:26:52 -!- tjafk [n=timj@e176200241.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 05:29:35 dakeyras_ [n=dakeyras@pool-98-117-125-63.sttlwa.fios.verizon.net] has joined #scheme 05:30:14 MichaelRaskin_ [n=raskin@chld.ru] has joined #scheme 05:31:13 -!- dakeyras_ [n=dakeyras@pool-98-117-125-63.sttlwa.fios.verizon.net] has left #scheme 05:34:15 -!- bombshelter13 [n=bombshel@209-161-228-143.dsl.look.ca] has quit ["Where is the glory in complying with demands?"] 05:35:12 -!- timmy_boy [n=timmy_bo@71-87-57-97.dhcp.stcd.mn.charter.com] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 05:35:50 duncanm [n=duncan@a-chinaman.com] has joined #scheme 05:36:27 hmm 05:36:37 -!- langmartin [n=user@adsl-074-167-038-128.sip.cha.bellsouth.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 05:38:51 vasa [n=vasa@mm-155-90-84-93.dynamic.pppoe.mgts.by] has joined #scheme 05:41:34 -!- jcowan [n=jcowan@cpe-74-68-154-18.nyc.res.rr.com] has quit ["Bailing out"] 05:41:41 duncanm: Agreed. 05:43:23 I dissent 05:44:33 I condissent tertially 05:45:10 -!- duncanm [n=duncan@a-chinaman.com] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 05:48:11 now you're just showing off 05:50:31 offby1: it backfired, though; 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errno=2) 07:34:43 " 07:35:12 The same thing happens when I try to require instaservlet or web plt 07:40:10 -!- leppie [n=lolcow@dsl-243-29-203.telkomadsl.co.za] has quit [Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)] 07:40:42 jewel [n=jewel@dsl-242-139-18.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #scheme 07:40:44 leppie [n=lolcow@dsl-243-29-203.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #scheme 07:45:39 underspecified [n=eric@clair16.naist.jp] has joined #scheme 07:45:40 -!- off-by-andy [n=Eric@q-static-138-125.avvanta.com] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 07:48:51 -!- leppie [n=lolcow@dsl-243-29-203.telkomadsl.co.za] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 07:49:36 -!- Kusanagi is now known as [H]ydra 07:50:12 -!- ejs [n=eugen@77-109-28-242.dynamic.peoplenet.ua] has quit [Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)] 07:51:17 -!- karsten_ [n=karsten@dslb-088-072-192-116.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 07:53:38 -!- mtrimpe [n=mtrimpe@d107110.upc-d.chello.nl] has quit [] 07:54:58 -!- [H]ydra is now known as Kusanagi 07:55:42 leppie [n=lolcow@dsl-243-29-203.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #scheme 07:59:33 -!- underspecified [n=eric@clair16.naist.jp] has quit [] 08:05:03 I've just installed plt scheme 4.1.3 and when i try to require a package "(require (planet "bootstrap.scm" ("vegashacker" "leftparen.plt" 2 2)))" It seems like I'm missing a file "/plt/collects/web-server/private/response-structs.ss" (No such file or directory; errno=2)" 08:05:38 can anyone help? or point to some help? 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I am trying to write a contract that checks whether the return type is either an empty list or a list of (non-empty) lists 09:08:58 http://paste.lisp.org/display/71368 09:10:15 -!- synthasee [n=synthase@c-68-63-76-191.hsd1.al.comcast.net] has quit [Connection timed out] 09:11:06 Leonidas: your `empty-or-list?' is not doing anything. 09:11:12 s/doing/checking/ 09:11:33 eli: right, I wanted first to have a contract that fails on every value 09:11:50 so? 09:11:50 eli: but somehow, it's not failing, I'm confused 09:12:36 First of all, you can write the contruct using contract forms 09:13:33 something like (or/c null? (listof (and/c list? pair?))) 09:14:03 As for the failure -- do you expect the code you pasted to fail? 09:14:42 -!- jgracin [n=jgracin@93-141-26-96.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 09:15:05 eli: I'd expect a function that returns #f to be considered a failure. 09:15:40 That's not what I asked -- do you expect to just use that whole text as a file and have it fail? 09:15:57 (when you run it in mzscheme or in drscheme) 09:16:23 ...or are you running it differently? 09:16:35 eli: yes, I'm directly running it in drscheme 09:17:03 In that case, your problem is that you check the function inside the module -- contracts are only checked on module boundaries. 09:17:38 The point is that it's a contract between modules (or files), so the contracts are not checked inside the module. 09:18:17 Leonidas annotated #71368 with "modified" at http://paste.lisp.org/display/71368#1 09:19:00 oh. But why does this break the contract directly? 09:19:10 -!- pchrist_ [n=spirit@gentoo/developer/pchrist] has quit ["leaving"] 09:19:16 ("this" as in "this paste") 09:19:31 -!- higepon39 [n=taro@218-223-22-146.bitcat.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 09:19:42 pchrist [n=spirit@gentoo/developer/pchrist] has joined #scheme 09:21:55 Leonidas: I don't know, probably some optimization that checks that the procedure value has the right arity. 09:23:05 eli: ok, thanks for the explanation. So contracts are actually not what I was looking for. Is there some kind of contract in PLT that is checked on every function call? 09:24:25 Leonidas: I think that you're looking for something like `define/contract' -- but do read the docs about it, I vaguely remember that there were some issues about it. 09:27:14 augustbankr [n=augustba@68-116-166-32.dhcp.oxfr.ma.charter.com] has joined #scheme 09:28:19 eli: ok, this looks like what I want, reading the documentation.. 09:28:58 -!- augustbankr [n=augustba@68-116-166-32.dhcp.oxfr.ma.charter.com] has quit [Client Quit] 09:35:07 -!- r11t [n=r11t@74.193.238.104] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 09:37:15 -!- leppie [n=lolcow@dsl-243-29-203.telkomadsl.co.za] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 09:38:09 leppie [n=lolcow@dsl-243-29-203.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #scheme 09:40:15 alaricsp [n=alaricsp@relief.warhead.org.uk] has joined #scheme 09:43:30 -!- saccade_ [n=saccade@65.78.24.47] has quit ["This computer has gone to sleep"] 09:46:15 does scheme have any multiple return value support? 09:48:38 rudybot: eval (values 1 2 3 4) 09:48:38 sjamaan: ; Value: 1 09:48:39 sjamaan: ; Value: 2 09:48:40 sjamaan: ; Value: 3 09:48:40 sjamaan: error: with-limit: out of time 09:48:43 heh! 10:00:25 -!- incubot [n=incubot@24.205.65.135] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 10:05:13 incubot [n=incubot@24.205.65.135] has joined #scheme 10:09:13 -!- hadronzoo [n=hadronzo@user-0c8h205.cable.mindspring.com] has quit [] 10:12:34 ? 10:12:48 Why'd it do that? 10:14:12 I have no idea 10:14:58 rudybot: eval (values 1 2 3) 10:14:58 Arelius: ; Value: 1 10:14:59 Arelius: ; Value: 2 10:15:00 Arelius: error: with-limit: out of time 10:15:15 rudybot: eval (values 1 2 3 4 5) 10:15:15 Arelius: ; Value: 1 10:15:16 Arelius: ; Value: 2 10:15:17 Arelius: error: with-limit: out of time 10:15:22 hmm 10:16:09 rudybot: eval (values 1 2 3) 10:16:10 sjamaan: ; Value: 1 10:16:11 sjamaan: ; Value: 2 10:16:11 sjamaan: error: with-limit: out of time 10:16:14 haha 10:16:18 Stupid bot! 10:16:22 It has a delay between each line, to avoid flooding, and it also has a time limit for the obvious reason. 10:16:58 ventonegro [n=user@136.166.1.3] has joined #scheme 10:16:59 It would be better to change its presentation of multiple values to be on one line 10:17:05 offby1` [n=user@q-static-138-125.avvanta.com] has joined #scheme 10:17:24 *eli* passes the mike to offby1` 10:17:30 Leonidas annotated #71368 with "defined/contract directly" at http://paste.lisp.org/display/71368#2 10:17:31 :) 10:17:49 -!- offby1 [n=user@q-static-138-125.avvanta.com] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 10:17:49 Not my boat. 10:19:33 incubot: (values 1 2) 10:19:33 1 10:19:59 incubot: (values) 10:19:59 # 10:31:55 phao [n=phao@20158152035.user.veloxzone.com.br] has joined #scheme 10:33:32 -!- Arelius [n=Indy@209.77.67.98] has quit [] 10:34:34 -!- vasa [n=vasa@mm-155-90-84-93.dynamic.pppoe.mgts.by] has quit ["I am not vasya, i am vasa"] 10:35:22 elmex [n=elmex@e180069141.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined 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IRClogs now has search: https://rottyforge.yi.org/irclogs/ 17:55:19 ecraven` [n=nex@140.78.42.103] has joined #scheme 17:56:28 (the search is quite limited -- only last 14 days, just substring match) 17:59:54 hemulen [n=hemulen@cpe-069-134-114-252.nc.res.rr.com] has joined #scheme 18:00:01 *rotty* heads back home, hoping his server is still alive when he gets there :-) 18:00:22 schmalbe [n=bernhard@p4FC16A85.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #scheme 18:02:23 -!- off-by-andy [n=Eric@m660e36d0.tmodns.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 18:03:34 off-by-andy [n=Eric@m660e36d0.tmodns.net] has joined #scheme 18:05:39 off-by-0 [n=Eric@74.203.51.134] has joined #scheme 18:07:09 saccade_ [n=saccade@30-6-23.wireless.csail.mit.edu] has joined #scheme 18:07:56 off-by-0_ [n=Eric@74.203.51.134] has joined #scheme 18:08:21 -!- off-by-0 [n=Eric@74.203.51.134] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 18:08:35 -!- off-by-andy [n=Eric@m660e36d0.tmodns.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 18:11:38 -!- cracki [n=cracki@sglty.kawo2.RWTH-Aachen.DE] has quit [Connection timed out] 18:12:13 -!- off-by-0_ [n=Eric@74.203.51.134] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 18:12:23 off-by-andy [n=Eric@74.203.51.134] has joined #scheme 18:15:08 -!- borism_ [n=boris@195-50-200-69-dsl.krw.estpak.ee] has quit [Client Quit] 18:20:19 saccade__ [n=saccade@dhcp-18-111-26-190.dyn.mit.edu] has joined #scheme 18:20:58 -!- off-by-andy [n=Eric@74.203.51.134] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 18:21:09 bombshelter13_ [n=bombshel@209-161-228-143.dsl.look.ca] has joined #scheme 18:23:19 hml [n=x@unaffiliated/hml] has joined #scheme 18:25:42 -!- hemulen [n=hemulen@cpe-069-134-114-252.nc.res.rr.com] has quit ["He rode off into the sunset. . ."] 18:29:46 -!- saccade_ [n=saccade@30-6-23.wireless.csail.mit.edu] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 18:29:51 hemulen [n=hemulen@cpe-069-134-114-252.nc.res.rr.com] has joined #scheme 18:30:58 pchrist [n=spirit@gentoo/developer/pchrist] has joined #scheme 18:34:55 -!- antoszka [n=antoszka@unaffiliated/antoszka] has quit ["+++ killed by SIGSEGV +++"] 18:35:24 -!- MichaelRaskin_ [n=raskin@chld.ru] has quit ["Leaving."] 18:35:27 -!- langmartin [n=user@75.148.111.133] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 18:39:15 -!- gaja [n=Gabriel@c-3481e555.017-40-6c6b7013.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit ["Lost terminal"] 18:41:44 borism [n=boris@195-50-200-69-dsl.krw.estpak.ee] has joined #scheme 18:46:31 moghar [n=user@unaffiliated/moghar] has joined #scheme 18:49:52 -!- DuClare [n=duclare@a81-197-106-84.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Client Quit] 18:58:00 Jarvellis [n=jarv@dsl-217-155-101-22.zen.co.uk] has joined #scheme 19:02:07 eno [n=eno@adsl-70-137-165-68.dsl.snfc21.sbcglobal.net] has joined #scheme 19:13:00 fschwidom [n=fschwido@dslb-084-059-245-195.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #scheme 19:15:03 mtrimpe [n=mtrimpe@d107110.upc-d.chello.nl] has joined #scheme 19:16:33 DuClare [n=duclare@a81-197-106-84.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #scheme 19:19:55 -!- ecraven [n=nex@140.78.42.103] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 19:20:10 -!- ecraven` is now known as ecraven 19:22:47 sjamaan: if Arelius were here, I'd say: it waits a second or so between each value (for reasons I no longer recall), and yet I've prohibited it from spending more than, I think, two seconds on any response. 19:23:17 sure 19:23:18 (hmph, I'm responding to stuff people said nine hours ago) 19:23:30 ((I _do_ have a life outside IRC, you know)) 19:25:46 i have no life 19:27:20 get a cat 19:27:27 HAHAHAHA 19:27:31 we have 7! 19:27:32 :-( 19:27:37 get rid of your cats 19:27:45 lol, we just got them 19:27:56 or, maybe, 8 cats is the magic threshold at which you suddenly have a life. 19:27:59 rescued cats 19:28:29 oh no, we had a 'foster' cat here last week, not a good number, just a bit too much friction 19:28:50 um... 19:28:57 get a ferret? 19:29:28 did i say i wanted a life? 19:29:39 :) 19:29:40 ferrets are very lively 19:30:50 -!- pchrist [n=spirit@gentoo/developer/pchrist] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 19:31:43 -!- saccade__ [n=saccade@dhcp-18-111-26-190.dyn.mit.edu] has quit ["This computer has gone to sleep"] 19:31:43 Adamant [n=Adamant@c-98-244-152-196.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 19:33:40 -!- schmalbe [n=bernhard@p4FC16A85.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ["good night"] 19:47:57 aneqrs [n=andreas@c83-253-104-206.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #scheme 19:49:25 -!- Adamant [n=Adamant@unaffiliated/adamant] has quit [] 19:49:31 Adamant [n=Adamant@c-98-244-152-196.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #scheme 19:52:52 my cats are enjoying my warm bed since it's so cold outside 19:53:06 they've never experienced the cold before (at least not this cold) 19:59:58 I wonder how to do the modulus on a Very Large Number. 20:00:28 alaricsp [n=alaricsp@relief.warhead.org.uk] has joined #scheme 20:00:35 math in general is difficult, but figuring out all the carries... I dunno 20:02:16 I'm trying to map characters from a 256 character space to a 255 character space. Easy you just repeatedly take a 255 digit base 256 number, and convert it to base 255. :p 20:02:38 if I knew how to do any of those things that is. 20:04:12 -!- hml [n=x@unaffiliated/hml] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 20:04:50 gaja [n=Gabriel@c-3481e555.017-40-6c6b7013.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #scheme 20:05:13 It'd be interesting to see what kind of size an encoding with the least loss of character space would be. 20:06:43 -!- ventonegro [n=user@136.166.1.3] has quit ["going home"] 20:06:53 -!- proq [n=user@unaffiliated/proqesi] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 20:07:16 pchrist [n=spirit@gentoo/developer/pchrist] has joined #scheme 20:07:28 -!- ejs [n=eugen@77-109-30-95.dynamic.peoplenet.ua] has quit ["Leaving"] 20:07:44 proq [n=user@unaffiliated/proqesi] has joined #scheme 20:08:27 -!- kniu [n=kniu@CMU-311358.WV.CC.CMU.EDU] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 20:09:23 saccade_ [n=saccade@18.188.73.185] has joined #scheme 20:10:18 -!- proq [n=user@unaffiliated/proqesi] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 20:10:28 kniu [n=kniu@OLAWDYME.RES.CMU.EDU] has joined #scheme 20:11:04 -!- jdev [i=jdev@panix5.panix.com] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 20:11:08 jdev [i=jdev@panix5.panix.com] has joined #scheme 20:20:45 -!- saccade_ [n=saccade@18.188.73.185] has quit ["This computer has gone to sleep"] 20:26:33 synx: what about huffman encoding? or does the ||mapee|| have to be exactly 255? 20:28:16 klutometis: huffman encoding doesn't reduce character space does it? 20:28:30 proq [n=user@unaffiliated/proqesi] has joined #scheme 20:29:04 jgracin [n=jgracin@82.193.208.195] has joined #scheme 20:29:23 Anyone knows in which file TIME is define in plt-scheme? 20:30:29 -!- proq [n=user@unaffiliated/proqesi] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 20:31:05 athos [n=philipp@92.250.204.223] has joined #scheme 20:39:22 synx: it does, i believe, to the characters actually used; so you can't guarantee < 256, but you may do much better most of the time. 20:39:27 saccade_ [n=saccade@dhcp-18-188-73-185.dyn.mit.edu] has joined #scheme 20:39:30 pchrist_ [n=spirit@gentoo/developer/pchrist] has joined #scheme 20:39:39 -!- pchrist [n=spirit@gentoo/developer/pchrist] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 20:39:49 -!- pchrist_ [n=spirit@gentoo/developer/pchrist] has quit [Client Quit] 20:39:55 hotblack23 [n=jh@p5B054D32.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #scheme 20:39:57 klutometis: Interesting. I thought it just eliminated redundancy by sorting the stuff into those trees, not reduced the character space. 20:41:06 hircus [n=msalim@iub-vpn-205-218.noc.indiana.edu] has joined #scheme 20:43:35 hotblack231 [n=jh@p5B055D8A.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #scheme 20:46:08 -!- jlongster [n=user@75.148.111.133] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 20:50:09 rudybot: pastebin 20:52:25 -!- GreyLensman [n=ray@c-76-108-235-51.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has quit ["Leaving."] 20:53:22 lisppaste: paste 20:53:33 paste? 20:53:36 ,paste 20:53:43 god I hate all these stupid bots 20:53:49 lisppaste: paste? 20:53:53 minion: paste? 20:53:54 paste: lisppaste: lisppaste is an IRC bot that runs under the nickname "lisppaste" and can be used (only for the #lisp IRC channel!) at http://paste.lisp.org/new/lisp - or http://paste.lisp.org/ for other destinations 20:55:11 Kusanagi [n=Motoko@unaffiliated/kusanagi] has joined #scheme 20:55:31 lisppaste: url? 20:55:32 To use the lisppaste bot, visit http://paste.lisp.org/new/scheme and enter your paste. 20:58:32 -!- hotblack23 [n=jh@p5B054D32.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 20:59:19 *mbishop* punches lisppaste 21:01:43 aquanaut pasted "Which is better style?" at http://paste.lisp.org/display/71433 21:03:00 the last one 21:03:07 looks nicest 21:03:09 be shapeless, formless. be like water, my friend. 21:03:16 oh wait, this is code 21:03:35 -!- vasa [n=vasa@mm-155-90-84-93.dynamic.pppoe.mgts.by] has quit ["I am not vasya, i am vasa"] 21:04:52 im not sure what for/fold does so i cant say really 21:05:46 http://docs.plt-scheme.org/reference/for.html#(form._((lib._scheme/base..ss)._for/fold)) 21:06:30 for/fold iterates and accumulates, it returns the final value. 21:07:11 i see :) 21:07:20 For this trivial example, I belive the v3 is the best becuase of clarity, but it maybe the most expensive because of string-append. 21:08:30 So I was wondering if the other styles are better, or what people use the most. Is v2 something people will understand easily? 21:09:23 not me :) i understand 1 best 21:09:45 hkBst [n=hkBst@gentoo/developer/hkbst] has joined #scheme 21:09:59 -!- jonrafkind [n=jon@wireless170.wireless.utah.edu] has quit [Connection timed out] 21:11:03 Is there a better way to indent 1? 21:12:02 again, i would just put it in more lines, but thats just me 21:12:58 How many lines? Is there a good style doc? 21:13:08 i have no idea :) 21:13:42 MichaelRaskin_ [n=raskin@gwh-1-177-mytn23k1.ln.rinet.ru] has joined #scheme 21:14:00 Thx. 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