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exhaust all memory and crash for this piece of simple, but long code http://pastebin.com/tky6im0L (paste too large for lisppaste). any ideas how to work around this? 11:13:13 rudi_ [~rudi@1x-193-157-202-117.uio.no] has joined #sbcl 11:14:35 -!- rudi_ is now known as rudi 11:16:42 H4ns: replace it with function calls? 11:17:33 ams: before trying, i'd hope for someone to say "it is because" :) 11:17:39 but i'll probably try that anyway :) 11:18:29 H4ns: :-) you wanted a work around, not an analysis! :-) 11:19:36 ams: can you GUARANTEE that a series of function calls will work better? :) 11:19:49 -!- attila_lendvai [~attila_le@unaffiliated/attila-lendvai/x-3126965] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 11:19:55 H4ns: quite sure .. 11:20:13 i suspect something just goes wonky when you have a single lambda of that size. ... 11:20:38 obviously. 11:21:47 you could also try bumping the heap ... 11:23:04 14GB does not help. it just takes longer until it is exhausted :) 11:23:30 ah 11:33:48 Kiryx 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Excellent 16:12:10 no! i'm adding transforms 16:12:48 instead of relying on maybe-inline to transform a call too stable-sort into stable-sort-simple-vector, do that using a transform 16:13:15 sorry, I meant the merge between your pathname fix and mine 16:13:22 not anything to do with MERGE 16:13:43 ltbarcly [~textual@pool-108-42-99-156.snfcca.fios.verizon.net] has joined #sbcl 16:14:40 would have been confusing if i actually was working on MERGE 16:25:12 damn, the typecheck from the SORT defknown doesn't seem to go away after i transform it 16:26:26 sort has (or symbol function), stable-sort has function, and explicit-check doesn't help here 16:32:17 perhaps if the transform has a stronger type assertion, it should be trusted 16:35:03 drmeister [~drmeister@mobile-198-228-196-017.mycingular.net] has joined #sbcl 16:39:59 -!- ltbarcly [~textual@pool-108-42-99-156.snfcca.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 16:43:56 Krystof: i would have used (defconstant +pathname-escape-char+ ...) 16:44:10 instead of additional parameters 16:44:55 or even, a slot in the *physical-host* 16:46:21 not a bad idea 16:47:52 fiveop [~fiveop@p5DDC79F5.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #sbcl 16:48:11 print/read-consistency fails 16:49:40 -!- drmeister [~drmeister@mobile-198-228-196-017.mycingular.net] has quit [Read error: No route to host] 16:51:48 (read-from-string (prin1-to-string (make-pathname 16:52:11 :name "\\" :type "txt"))) => #p"/.txt" 16:52:23 it expects them to be equal 16:54:45 wait 16:55:12 what should it be? 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I am trying to begin learning lisp. I am trying to set up sbcl, slime and emacs to work together well. If I start emacs from command line, it works well. However, if I start it using icon in my OS, I get an error: http://paste.lisp.org/display/141327 22:18:44 What should I do? 22:19:12 you won't get anything more help here than in #lisp 22:19:49 drmeister [~drmeister@mobile-198-228-192-021.mycingular.net] has joined #sbcl 22:19:53 Too bad. 22:21:15 -!- drmeister [~drmeister@mobile-198-228-192-021.mycingular.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:36:01 -!- Malice_ [~Malice@94-229-220-135.static.espol.com.pl] has quit [Quit: Wychodzi] 22:45:29 -!- mgodshall [~mgodshall@8.20.30.249] has quit [Quit: mgodshall] 23:59:49 -!- yacks [~py@103.6.159.103] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 00:02:21 -!- ASau [~user@p54AFED39.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 00:14:07 davazp [~user@167.Red-88-15-120.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #sbcl 00:27:20 -!- stassats` [~stassats@wikipedia/stassats] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 00:38:09 tcr [~tcr@176.41.81.49] has joined #sbcl 00:51:07 -!- tcr 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What shall we do? 11:34:45 lazy way: #+(or x86 x86-64 ppc) 11:35:27 you mean abandon support for all the other platforms? 11:35:51 no, disabling pack-tn optimizing 11:36:38 hm. My understanding was that that didn't in fact fix things; am I wrong? 11:37:01 that's a possibility, certainly 11:37:02 it did fix them on ppc, before i fixed ppc 11:37:28 maybe the nature of sparc problems is different 11:37:42 Hm, I applied for gcc compile farm access and haven't heard back. 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I wonder if I can find out who's on the list) 15:37:06 -!- minion [~minion@common-lisp.net] has quit [Disconnected by services] 15:37:10 minion [~minion@common-lisp.net] has joined #sbcl 15:38:07 drmeister [~drmeister@155.247.96.196] has joined #sbcl 15:38:32 stassats`: sparc fails with the commit that fixes (pack-tn :optimize t) 15:38:47 otoh, I'm really not convinced that that flag helps codegen at all. 15:38:56 -!- pkhuong_ is now known as pkhuong 15:39:15 ok, then i was suggesting #+(or x86 x86-64 ppc) :optimize t 15:39:23 pkhuong: it pessimizes code in some cases 15:39:29 what does? 15:39:34 :optimize t 15:39:51 how did you test? 15:40:45 i was talking about it some time ago, for example, RCX in the prologue is not assigned to RCX, causing an unnecessary move 15:41:12 ok, and how can you tell that the bug is in pack-tn? 15:41:54 because it sorts the tns, making RCX first, instead of RAX, and RCX is snatched from the argcount by something else 15:44:27 and unconditionally leaving 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