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2016-06-16T16:26:19Z paule32: hello
2016-06-16T16:27:24Z paule32: jasom?
2016-06-16T16:35:41Z jasom: hi
2016-06-16T16:48:39Z paule32: the #lisp channel is not so commucative
2016-06-16T16:49:04Z paule32: so i ask here: i use sbcl, and want a list in list
2016-06-16T16:49:21Z paule32: https://paste.fedoraproject.org/379995/46607818/
2016-06-16T17:05:40Z scymtym: paule32: (W__ SIE) is evaluated by attempting to call a function W__ with the value of a variable SIE as its argument. you probably mean '(W__ SIE) which is equivalent to (QUOTE (W__ SIE)) which evaluates to an (immutable) list of two symbols W__ and SIE
2016-06-16T17:05:50Z scymtym: since the question is not sbcl-specific, please take the discussion to #lisp
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2016-06-16T17:39:20Z paule32: no answers since days
2016-06-16T18:14:44Z jasom: paule32: I'm in #lisp and don't see anything from you in the last 12 hours
2016-06-16T18:15:40Z paule32: jasom: i send many requests
2016-06-16T18:16:03Z paule32: and i see only, which come in/out of the channel
2016-06-16T18:16:05Z jasom: something isn't working then because I idle in #lisp 24x7 and my logs show only joins and parts, not messages from you
2016-06-16T18:17:33Z paule32: 19:48:46  <paule32> now, the variable is handled
2016-06-16T18:17:54Z paule32: that was my last post
2016-06-16T18:18:35Z joshe: I also see nothing from you this month in #lisp except joins and parts
2016-06-16T18:18:50Z joshe: well, joins and ping timeouts
2016-06-16T18:21:29Z jasom: paule32: try reconnecting to irc
2016-06-16T18:21:41Z paule32: ok
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2016-06-16T18:23:37Z paule32: so, i enter text, can you see it?
2016-06-16T18:24:23Z jasom: nope
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2016-06-16T18:25:50Z paule32: can i unmute myself?
2016-06-16T18:26:06Z jasom: paule32: can you see what jsnell and myself are saying?
2016-06-16T18:26:26Z paule32: yes
2016-06-16T18:26:47Z jasom: okay so it probably is the +q flag then, I'll look more closely
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2016-06-16T19:07:41Z scymtym: is this conforming: (lambda (&rest rest) (setf rest #(1)) (elt rest 0))?
2016-06-16T19:08:05Z scymtym: i couldn't find anything in the clhs forbidding it
2016-06-16T19:08:29Z scymtym: we emit a compile-time type-error
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2016-06-16T19:44:37Z dougk_: scymtym: http://www.lispworks.com/documentation/HyperSpec/Issues/iss178_w.htm has something to say. "There is a particular problem with &REST lambda variables, which are always bound to a value of type LIST."
2016-06-16T19:44:58Z dougk_: but i could see how that would be taken to mean "initially bound"
2016-06-16T19:57:05Z PuercoPop: dougk_: are the issues the normative?
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2016-06-16T20:15:16Z dougk_: PuercoPop: no, not really
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2016-06-16T20:39:57Z PuercoPop: dougk_: well it is still in poor taste to modify the rest parameter
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2016-06-16T20:41:16Z PuercoPop: wonder why it compiles in montezuma and throws and error at run-time
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2016-06-16T21:25:35Z scymtym: dougk_: thanks for digging that up. concluding anything beyond the type of the initial binding from cleanup issue seems like a stretch, though
2016-06-16T21:26:10Z scymtym: PuercoPop: in my experiment, SBCL warned at compile-time and signaled an error at runtime
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2016-06-16T21:36:33Z scymtym: maybe POSSIBLE-REST-ARG-CONTEXT needs additional checks
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