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2015-04-13T12:19:49Z smokeink: http://paste.lisp.org/display/147018
2015-04-13T12:20:53Z smokeink: been struggling for hours with this
2015-04-13T12:21:42Z scymtym__: smokeink: this is probably more of slime problem
2015-04-13T12:21:54Z scymtym__: is the sbcl process running on the remote machine?
2015-04-13T12:21:59Z smokeink: yes
2015-04-13T12:22:32Z scymtym__: smokeink: do you know about https://common-lisp.net/project/slime/doc/html/Setting-up-pathname-translations.html?
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2015-04-13T12:27:21Z smokeink: the only thing that is not clear to me is the :machine-instance parameter
2015-04-13T12:27:40Z smokeink: what am i supposed to put there instead of "remote" ?
2015-04-13T12:28:36Z scymtym__: the name of your remote machine, i guess. but again: this more of a slime question than an sbcl question.
2015-04-13T12:30:39Z scymtym__: according to the documentation, it should be whatever CL:MACHINE-INSTANCE returns on the remote machine
2015-04-13T12:31:33Z scymtym__: i.e. run sbcl --noinform --no-userinit --eval '(print (machine-instance))' --quit on the remote machine and use that
2015-04-13T12:33:47Z smokeink: that was it!
2015-04-13T12:34:23Z smokeink: i had :machine-instance wrong .. thank you so much
2015-04-13T12:37:43Z antoszka: I learned something too :)
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2015-04-13T12:40:18Z stassats: still, slime should handle that better
2015-04-13T12:41:04Z Shinmera: I often would like to edit my local copies while still being connected to a remote. Having that work would be nice.
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2015-04-13T12:56:49Z scymtym__: the new FORM-TRACKING-STREAM code seems to cause problems when other expects FILE-STREAMs but not FILE-STREAMs wrapped in FILE-STREAMs
2015-04-13T12:56:50Z scymtym__: http://paste.lisp.org/display/147019
2015-04-13T12:57:11Z scymtym__: the attached "fix" is obviously just a hack
2015-04-13T12:59:17Z stassats: what is this form-tracking-stream?
2015-04-13T13:00:04Z scymtym__: see doug's "Reader enhancement …" commit
2015-04-13T13:09:42Z stassats: "observer" "delegate", ugh
2015-04-13T13:14:52Z stassats: what uses this new feature?
2015-04-13T13:15:43Z scymtym__: you can embed (compile-file-position) in your code and have it expanded to (values LINE COLUMN) of the form
2015-04-13T13:16:04Z stassats: i get that, but what's the use of that?
2015-04-13T13:16:29Z stassats: and why isn't form-tracking-stream not a file stream?
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2015-04-13T13:21:44Z scymtym__: stassats: i suggest joining the sbcl-devel discussion
2015-04-13T13:22:32Z stassats: blimey, see some more debugger badness
2015-04-13T13:24:30Z stassats: (merge-pathnames 10 "abc") => (MERGE-PATHNAMES 10 "abc" "abc")
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2015-04-13T13:25:41Z stassats: scymtym__: it's not something i want to engage myself in, if you reported the problem, then i'm sure douglas will fix it
2015-04-13T13:26:30Z scymtym__: stassats: ok. can i relay your suggestion of making FORM-TRACKING-STREAM a FILE-STREAM, though?
2015-04-13T13:29:29Z stassats: yeah, though not having call-next-method is a bit of a problem, but you can just call the file-stream routines
2015-04-13T13:31:45Z stassats: unless form-tracking-stream is supposed to be more generic and work on other streams
2015-04-13T13:32:14Z stassats: then pathname on it needs to be recursive and better handling different underlying streams
2015-04-13T13:32:35Z stassats: but i'll just take a working slime
2015-04-13T13:35:08Z stassats: (funcall (lambda (a &optional (x 33)) (declare (fixnum a)) (+ a x)) 'a) =>
2015-04-13T13:35:09Z stassats: ((LAMBDA (A &OPTIONAL (X 33))) A 70368311700872)
2015-04-13T13:37:37Z stassats: again the problem with elsewhere errors signalled before start-pc
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2015-04-13T13:41:17Z stassats: huh, what (defun foo (a &optional x) (declare (fixnum a)) a) checks for the fixnum twice
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2015-04-13T13:49:14Z stassats: not just twice, but one additional for each optional
2015-04-13T13:51:10Z stassats: and i always love things like "L3: JMP L2"
2015-04-13T13:51:24Z stassats: (the previous being RET)
2015-04-13T14:31:31Z pkhuong: oh yeah, we really need jump jump tensioning
2015-04-13T14:31:50Z pkhuong: but I broke random stuff when I tried to do it in ir2opt
2015-04-13T14:36:48Z stassats: figured how to reduce the number of typechecks to two at most
2015-04-13T14:37:03Z stassats: but the last one doesn't want to go
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2015-04-13T14:59:07Z stassats: that happens when i remove types from lambda vars, but why doesn't it see that the argument to the function is of the said type?
2015-04-13T15:07:37Z Xof: ircing from a compiler conference
2015-04-13T15:07:45Z Xof: foom and dougk say "hi"
2015-04-13T15:07:54Z Xof: probably
2015-04-13T15:08:40Z stassats: MORE COMPILERS
2015-04-13T15:08:59Z Xof: Goldsmiths is full of programmers all of a sudden
2015-04-13T15:09:06Z Xof: it's like some weird kind of parallel universe
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2015-04-13T15:22:45Z stassats: hm, the type seems to be checked before the call
2015-04-13T15:23:17Z stassats: so we have n entries and each has a type check, probably that's why
2015-04-13T15:24:22Z stassats: but checking types for defaulted optionals is difficult to do at once
2015-04-13T15:24:47Z stassats: so it'd probably needs some hand-holding to get things right
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2015-04-13T16:16:52Z jdz: Xof: i see
2015-04-13T16:59:48Z stassats: hm, not checking required parameters is clear, but what about optional type declarations, it would need to check the passed value and the value returned by the init-form
2015-04-13T17:00:26Z stassats: one option is to just check everything in the final entry point, but that would mean subsequent init-forms do not get optimized, which probably is not important
2015-04-13T17:02:39Z stassats: (optional entry points which evaluate default value are chained together, so you can call in the middle depending on the number of arguments, but that means you each nth default optional needs to check n-1 types for previous supplied arguments)
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2015-04-13T17:11:49Z stassats: or maybe something like for (x &optional y z) => check-x (if (< args 2) jump-to-y-initform (progn check-y (if (< args 3) jump-to-z-initform (progn check-z jump-to-entry))))
2015-04-13T17:12:05Z stassats: args is already checked to be in range
2015-04-13T17:12:29Z stassats: so, that's how it should logically, now how to convince it to produce such code
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