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2015-03-24T02:33:30Z stassats: this backwards compatibility thing is devolving into bike shedding
2015-03-24T02:34:18Z nyef: As in, please take it out behind the bike shed and put a bullet through its skull?
2015-03-24T02:34:39Z stassats: sounds like a great option
2015-03-24T02:35:22Z stassats: search and replace for QUIT to EXIT would take seconds, just need to find the maintainers
2015-03-24T02:35:53Z stassats: and people say x86 has a crummy old instruction set, damned if you do, damned if you don't
2015-03-24T02:35:58Z nyef: For those who want to maintain compatibility with older SBCL, write a feature conditional to check for a public symbol named EXIT in the appropriate package and MOVE ON.
2015-03-24T02:36:05Z stassats: note to self: don't write software which has users
2015-03-24T02:36:20Z nyef: Hell, I got burned by a change to how FDEFNs are found in the globaldb.
2015-03-24T02:36:40Z Bike: people are arguing about this?
2015-03-24T02:36:50Z nyef: The interfaces that I was using simply went away without warning.
2015-03-24T02:37:12Z stassats: nyef: which is a good feature
2015-03-24T02:37:15Z nyef: Did I bitch about it? No. I worked out the change that I needed, the two feature conditionals required, and moved on.
2015-03-24T02:37:55Z nyef: Of course, I earned the silent breakage, because it's not a feature exposed in a public package, but it's also Not A Big Deal To Fix.
2015-03-24T02:38:08Z nyef: I also have the feature conditional handy for the QUIT vs. EXIT thing.
2015-03-24T02:38:54Z stassats: slime has WITH-SYMBOL
2015-03-24T02:39:20Z stassats: (defimplementation quit-lisp ()
2015-03-24T02:39:20Z stassats:   #+#.(swank/backend:with-symbol 'exit 'sb-ext)
2015-03-24T02:39:20Z stassats:   (sb-ext:exit)
2015-03-24T02:39:20Z stassats:   #-#.(swank/backend:with-symbol 'exit 'sb-ext)
2015-03-24T02:39:23Z stassats:   (progn
2015-03-24T02:39:26Z stassats:     #+sb-thread
2015-03-24T02:39:31Z stassats:     (dolist (thread (remove (current-thread) (all-threads)))
2015-03-24T02:39:33Z stassats:       (ignore-errors (sb-thread:terminate-thread thread)))
2015-03-24T02:39:36Z stassats: oh bloody terminal emacs, i hate it
2015-03-24T02:41:46Z loke: stassats: ++
2015-03-24T02:42:42Z stassats: too bad my chromebook can't run emacs well
2015-03-24T02:43:13Z loke: stassats: Apparently it will soon enough.
2015-03-24T02:43:35Z loke: stassats: Did you see the recent Google contributions on the emacs-dev list? They did a NaCl port of Emacs.
2015-03-24T02:44:35Z stassats: i also like the "it doesn't disconnect from IRC when it goes to sleep" bit
2015-03-24T02:44:54Z loke: stassats: What do you use to IRC on chromebook?
2015-03-24T02:45:07Z stassats: emacs over ssh, duh
2015-03-24T02:46:39Z stassats: so, nacl sbcl?
2015-03-24T02:47:10Z stassats: well, i have it rooted, so i have no problem running sbcl
2015-03-24T02:47:33Z nyef: ... But does it run with threads?
2015-03-24T02:47:52Z stassats: sure, it's an atom chromebook
2015-03-24T02:48:33Z stassats: don't even need crouton or other tricks
2015-03-24T02:48:50Z stassats: but i still end up using it for Qt
2015-03-24T02:49:19Z stassats: i guess if i rewrote my UI into web, i could run it from sbcl + hunchentoot and access it in chrome
2015-03-24T02:49:24Z stassats: but i also hate web
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2015-03-24T03:00:15Z loke: stassats: My problem with the terminal in chromeos was that I found no way of setting it to use white background
2015-03-24T03:00:24Z loke: Made it instantly useless for me
2015-03-24T03:03:27Z stassats: yeah, i actually prefer the white background as well
2015-03-24T03:04:15Z loke: white background is scientifically better to reduce eye strain. Anyway, there must be a way to get a better terminal on chromeos
2015-03-24T03:04:44Z stassats: but surely there must be a way to make it white, i haven't tried yet
2015-03-24T03:04:51Z loke: Can it be done with the crouton? (I never tried it, because our chromebook is mainly used by my daugfher)
2015-03-24T03:07:01Z stassats: ok, i just made it white
2015-03-24T03:07:06Z loke: How?
2015-03-24T03:07:19Z stassats: http://git.chromium.org/gitweb/?p=chromiumos/platform/assets.git;a=blob;f=chromeapps/nassh/doc/faq.txt#l288
2015-03-24T03:08:01Z loke: Here's the NaCl thread by the way: https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2015-03/msg00312.html
2015-03-24T03:08:30Z loke: Oh neat. Thanks for the link stassats
2015-03-24T03:08:33Z stassats: what i would love: emacs shortcuts in the input fields
2015-03-24T03:09:00Z loke: In the browser?
2015-03-24T03:09:44Z stassats: right
2015-03-24T03:10:17Z stassats: or modifying any shortcuts, for that matter
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