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I am currently running 1.2.5. 2015-03-19T10:30:39Z Bicyclidine quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 2015-03-19T10:37:59Z Xof quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 2015-03-19T10:43:59Z stassats: yes, unavailability of turing machines is a known issue 2015-03-19T10:45:36Z beach: I have plenty of memory. If I insert a (cl-user::gc) before the offending evaluation, I don't have the problem. Furthermore, I can't reproduce it easily because it goes away when files are compiled in a different order. 2015-03-19T10:46:12Z pillton: stassats: Sorry. here it is: http://paste.lisp.org/display/146371 2015-03-19T10:46:29Z pillton: I was honestly expecting a yes/no answer and then I'd go to launchpad. 2015-03-19T10:46:37Z stassats: where's the aver? 2015-03-19T10:47:03Z pillton: I gave the backtrace and the error message. 2015-03-19T10:48:33Z stassats: lp 1042610 2015-03-19T10:48:33Z specbot: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1042610 2015-03-19T10:48:35Z stassats: that'd be this 2015-03-19T10:49:49Z pillton: Ok. Thanks. 2015-03-19T10:49:50Z beach: Hmm. 200 MBytes allocated for 6 million or so SIMPLE-BIT-VECTORs. 2015-03-19T10:50:10Z beach: I don't even use bit vectors myself. Must be a system thing. 2015-03-19T10:50:32Z beach: Anyway, maybe I don't have *plenty* of memory. I'll start with a bigger heap. 2015-03-19T10:50:44Z stassats: the compiler uses bit vectors 2015-03-19T10:50:54Z pillton left #sbcl 2015-03-19T10:51:24Z beach: Yeah. 2015-03-19T10:51:54Z beach: What's the default for --dynamic-space-size on x86-64 Linux? 2015-03-19T10:52:58Z stassats: 1GB or something small like that 2015-03-19T10:53:07Z beach: OK, thanks. 2015-03-19T10:54:06Z stassats: protip, it's (sb-ext:gc), not (cl-user::gc) 2015-03-19T10:59:40Z beach: OK, thanks. 2015-03-19T11:01:16Z beach: What should I put in inferior-lisp-program in order to pass the --dynamic-space-size parameter to SBCL? 2015-03-19T11:02:09Z stassats: how about "sbcl --dynamic-space-size 16GB"? 2015-03-19T11:04:12Z beach: Hmm, when I do sbcl --dynamic-space-size 4000 from the command line, I get the right size heap, but when I do it form SLIME with "sbcl --dynamic-space-size 4000" I still get the default heap size. 2015-03-19T11:05:23Z beach: I'll investigate some more. 2015-03-19T11:05:39Z stassats: are you not using slime-lisp-implementations? 2015-03-19T11:07:53Z beach: Never mind *blush*. I forgot to reload the Emacs initfile after changing inferior-lisp-program. 2015-03-19T11:08:02Z beach: I should be fine now. 2015-03-19T11:09:40Z stassats: C-M-x would've done it too 2015-03-19T11:10:33Z beach: Right. 2015-03-19T11:16:18Z stassats quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 2015-03-19T11:22:10Z Shinmera joined #sbcl 2015-03-19T11:22:21Z echo-area quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 2015-03-19T11:22:59Z attila_lendvai joined #sbcl 2015-03-19T11:27:23Z Bicyclidine joined #sbcl 2015-03-19T11:35:06Z ams: C-M-x?? that tends to be unbound ... 2015-03-19T11:35:19Z ams: and proper tip, (cl:gc) 2015-03-19T11:54:32Z beach: ams: GC is not a symbol in the CL package. 2015-03-19T11:55:24Z beach: ams: and my C-M-x is certainly bound by default. 2015-03-19T11:55:51Z beach: ... at least in a buffer that is in Emacs-Lisp mode. 2015-03-19T11:58:00Z beach: The reason I thought "heap exhausted during garbage collection..." was a defect was: 1. I didn't think it was possible to run out of heap space during GC. 2. The error showed up in *inferior-lisp*. 3. I ended up in LDB. 4. From Google-ing I got the impression that other people think it is a defect as well. 2015-03-19T12:02:42Z beach: 5. It's the first time it happens to me. 2015-03-19T12:05:05Z Shinmera: I don't have the logs of this place, but finalizers can allocate more heap which could lead to an exhaustion during GC. 2015-03-19T12:05:27Z beach: Good point. 2015-03-19T12:06:42Z beach: Now I am also thinking that if there are several generations with fixes sizes, then promoting live objects from one generation to the next could exhaust the available space in the next generation. Not that I know whether SBCL does that. 2015-03-19T12:12:57Z stassats joined #sbcl 2015-03-19T12:15:11Z stassats: beach: it is trivial to run out of heap during GCing, with a copying GC 2015-03-19T12:16:33Z beach: Well, the standard copying algorithm has 2 semi-spaces of equal size. So if from-space is not exhausted, neither will to-space be during GC. 2015-03-19T12:17:31Z stassats: (loop collect (make-array 1000)) 2015-03-19T12:17:34Z stassats: => Heap exhausted during garbage collection: 704 bytes available, 8016 requested. 2015-03-19T12:18:23Z beach: It has never happened to me. I have always got the message when attempting to allocate something too big. 2015-03-19T12:18:36Z stassats: that's why 1000 is not too big 2015-03-19T12:19:11Z beach: Funny I have never seen it before. 2015-03-19T12:19:16Z beach: Oh well, now I know. 2015-03-19T12:20:30Z beach: stassats: Thanks for your help. 2015-03-19T12:20:39Z beach vanishes. 2015-03-19T12:24:50Z stassats: pinned pages due to conservatism trow in spanners, maybe if it better accounted for them it could signal errors earlier 2015-03-19T12:25:33Z stassats: so, is the fact that our GC is rubbish known? yes 2015-03-19T12:29:53Z echo-area joined #sbcl 2015-03-19T12:35:21Z eudoxia joined #sbcl 2015-03-19T12:44:34Z scymtym_ joined #sbcl 2015-03-19T12:46:41Z scymtym quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 2015-03-19T12:48:20Z dougk_ quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 2015-03-19T12:58:00Z psilord quit (Quit: Leaving.) 2015-03-19T12:59:57Z echo-area quit (Remote host closed the connection) 2015-03-19T13:10:54Z dougk_ joined #sbcl 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