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2014-12-23T20:03:40Z pkhuong: how do we feel about software write barriers, btw?
2014-12-23T20:03:59Z pkhuong: I can guess that stassats is all over them, if only for embedding purposes
2014-12-23T20:04:09Z stassats: right, right
2014-12-23T20:04:50Z stassats: and it could be a build option, so you can have whichever barriers
2014-12-23T20:05:11Z pkhuong: right
2014-12-23T20:06:44Z stassats: and if getting rid of signals completely, then there are the internal error traps
2014-12-23T20:07:38Z pkhuong: stassats: they could easily be jumps to static addresses
2014-12-23T20:08:06Z pkhuong: once we get block ordering right, that is.
2014-12-23T20:08:39Z stassats: right
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2014-12-23T20:11:46Z nyef: How about read barriers?
2014-12-23T20:13:41Z pkhuong: I can't see us making that work w/o a shit ton of work
2014-12-23T20:14:10Z pkhuong: and I can only hope we'd use some sort of self modifying code to avoid the overhead when we don't need read barriers
2014-12-23T20:15:46Z stassats: what's the difference between write and read barriers?
2014-12-23T20:15:59Z stassats: the software ones
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2014-12-23T20:16:33Z pkhuong: and they tend to involve changing the address you read from
2014-12-23T20:16:39Z pkhuong: rather than just logging the address
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2014-12-23T20:18:11Z pkhuong: read barriers? conditional on every access to the heap
2014-12-23T20:18:19Z pkhuong: like forwarding pointers, but everywhere
2014-12-23T20:19:29Z stassats: when i was thinking about software barriers i was just thinking about safepoints, which is simpler than general barriers
2014-12-23T20:19:43Z stassats: the general would require some kind of a table, page based perhaps?
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2014-12-23T20:21:07Z stassats: we do use protection for unused gc pages, but that seems to me like an optimization and it could be done ahead of time
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2014-12-23T20:23:40Z stassats: or for some other gc phase, i haven't examined that part
2014-12-23T20:25:33Z stassats: ok, i see that it's a bit more involved
2014-12-23T20:27:34Z stassats: so, it's for determining if older generations contain pointers to the new generation
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