15:36:15 ccl-logbot [~ccl-logbo@setf.clozure.com] has joined #sbcl 15:36:15 15:36:15 -!- names: ccl-logbot scymtym drmeister oleo segv- reb sdemarre yacks stassats pkhuong milosn kludge` foom eudoxia hlavaty ASau michael_lee prxq angavrilov attila_lendvai christoph_debian jrm Bike zmyrgel samskulls Munksgaard bege @Krystof pegu danlentz Posterdati jaimef joshe psilord hedd_passes_out fikusz daimrod |3b| _8hzp kanru brucem InvalidCo Tribal subtlepath ams jsnell ivan``_ luis- fe[nl]ix Blkt xymox flip214 minion specbot nicdev ferada plathrop gko 15:36:15 -!- names: Subfusc redline6561 antoszka pchrist 15:39:30 cold-init, here i come 15:41:28 for some reason my make-array optimizations break during cold-init, perhaps the type system is not equivalent enough for determine the array widetag during ir1-transforms 15:54:45 -!- sdemarre [~serge@91.180.114.139] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 15:56:12 -!- drmeister [~drmeister@155.247.96.196] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:57:38 reb` [user@nat/google/x-lvaqvvddkohhzwpj] has joined #sbcl 15:59:53 -!- reb [user@nat/google/x-ehkylzzsisozqzwb] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:00:01 drmeister [~drmeister@155.247.96.196] has joined #sbcl 16:02:13 and build order issues, can't compile make-array in primordial-extensions because vm-array with *saetp* isn't compiled before it, and my defoptimizer depends on it 16:10:57 sdemarre [~serge@91.180.114.139] has joined #sbcl 16:17:36 the difference between ctypep and ctype-p is quit subtle 16:17:41 -!- sdemarre [~serge@91.180.114.139] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 16:18:18 -!- michael_lee [~michael_l@113.139.51.73] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 16:21:56 -!- oleo [~oleo@xdsl-78-35-186-103.netcologne.de] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:26:16 heh. 16:26:16 oleo [~oleo@xdsl-78-35-186-103.netcologne.de] has joined #sbcl 16:37:12 if i make a transform return a form wrapped in truly-the, would that be a suitable replacement for derive-type? 16:38:05 i'm making (make-array x :element-type x) => (%make-array x widetag-for-x), and deriving the type from %make-array is problematic per the above 16:50:14 -!- attila_lendvai [~attila_le@unaffiliated/attila-lendvai/x-3126965] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:52:35 make saetp be born earlier? 16:52:49 but that sounds wrong, anyway 16:53:03 *saetp* should be initialized before the cross-compiler starts cross-compiling 16:53:05 tried that, it depends on other vm constants 16:53:15 and down the rabbit hole it goes 16:53:57 to be clear. Before you start cross-compile-the-world, sb!vm:*saetp* (or whatever it's called) should have its value 16:54:45 because from-host/src/compiler/generic/vm-array.fasl should have been loaded in order for the cross-compiler to exist 16:58:45 it does look strange 17:03:43 but it looks like my make-array is broken even without any transforms 17:07:55 drmeiste_ [~drmeister@155.247.96.196] has joined #sbcl 17:08:02 -!- drmeister [~drmeister@155.247.96.196] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:08:08 attila_lendvai [~attila_le@5.251.242.95] has joined #sbcl 17:08:08 -!- attila_lendvai [~attila_le@5.251.242.95] has quit [Changing host] 17:08:08 attila_lendvai [~attila_le@unaffiliated/attila-lendvai/x-3126965] has joined #sbcl 17:11:09 maybe it's broken because *saetp* is not yet initialized 17:12:00 though, make-array consulted it before too, in the same way 17:29:12 -!- eudoxia [~eudoxia@r186-52-52-176.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 17:47:59 haxx [~Rob@69.77.176.98] has joined #sbcl 18:01:54 jasom_ [~aidenn@ip70-191-80-19.sb.sd.cox.net] has joined #sbcl 18:03:22 So I builtt a git checkout of sbcl on windows. I included a zlib dll, but find that using a compressed memory image causes a crash (I haven't done any significant win32 development in about a decade, so not sure how to tell what exactly went wrong). I notice that the official builds have compression disabled; is it expected to not work on windows? 18:03:41 -!- jasom_ is now known as jasom 18:03:59 good question. Don't know. 18:05:19 I guess if nobody has ever tried it, there's no reason to think it should work 18:05:37 well, I wouldn't know if anyone has ever tried it 18:05:51 did it successfully save a compressed image (of some kind)? 18:05:58 yes 18:06:02 that is, is the thing that it saved noticeably smaller than the uncompressed image? 18:06:07 yes 18:06:40 neat. Then I would have expected things to work, but I've been surprised before 18:07:36 -!- Bike [~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 18:08:36 40MB vs 12MB 18:09:14 x86 or x86-64? 18:09:54 x86 18:11:33 Bike [~Glossina@wl-nat109.it.wsu.edu] has joined #sbcl 18:11:40 mm.. doesn't x86/windows have fancy logic to move the heap around? 18:13:48 -!- attila_lendvai [~attila_le@unaffiliated/attila-lendvai/x-3126965] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 18:14:32 attila_lendvai [~attila_le@unaffiliated/attila-lendvai/x-3126965] has joined #sbcl 19:01:45 -!- stassats [~stassats@wikipedia/stassats] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:02:29 stassats [~stassats@wikipedia/stassats] has joined #sbcl 19:03:20 -!- Bike [~Glossina@wl-nat109.it.wsu.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:04:41 Bike [~Glossina@wl-nat109.it.wsu.edu] has joined #sbcl 19:08:50 -!- stassats [~stassats@wikipedia/stassats] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 19:10:00 scymtym_ [~user@ip-5-147-115-29.unitymediagroup.de] has joined #sbcl 19:22:58 -!- drmeiste_ [~drmeister@155.247.96.196] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:25:44 drmeister [~drmeister@155.247.96.196] has joined #sbcl 19:39:59 milosn_ [~milosn@user-5af50d7a.broadband.tesco.net] has joined #sbcl 19:41:45 -!- milosn [~milosn@user-5af50598.broadband.tesco.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 19:55:23 -!- haxx [~Rob@69.77.176.98] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 19:59:57 haxx [~Rob@69.77.176.98] has joined #sbcl 20:03:45 -!- Bike [~Glossina@wl-nat109.it.wsu.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 20:23:35 stassats [~stassats@wikipedia/stassats] has joined #sbcl 20:23:46 -!- stassats [~stassats@wikipedia/stassats] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:25:53 Bike [~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu] has joined #sbcl 20:26:56 -!- angavrilov [~angavrilo@217.71.227.190] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:35:18 -!- scymtym [~user@2001:638:504:2093:baca:3aff:fe83:e736] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:19:19 sdemarre [~serge@91.180.114.139] has joined #sbcl 21:20:38 -!- haxx [~Rob@69.77.176.98] has quit [*.net *.split] 21:20:38 -!- oleo [~oleo@xdsl-78-35-186-103.netcologne.de] has quit [*.net *.split] 21:21:09 haxx [~Rob@69.77.176.98] has joined #sbcl 21:23:05 -!- prxq [~mommer@x2f65761.dyn.telefonica.de] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:23:25 prxq [~mommer@x2f65761.dyn.telefonica.de] has joined #sbcl 21:27:07 oleo [~oleo@xdsl-78-35-186-103.netcologne.de] has joined #sbcl 22:00:44 l_ [~no4@84.233.246.170] has joined #sbcl 22:02:06 -!- l_ [~no4@84.233.246.170] has left #sbcl 22:02:36 Vivitron [~Vivitron@c-50-172-44-193.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #sbcl 22:05:39 ASau` [~user@p54AFE18E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #sbcl 22:07:53 I noticed that there's a new SBCL register allocator. 22:08:56 -!- ASau [~user@p54AFFA8B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 22:11:07 ... so I ran a couple of quick and dirty benchmark using the sip-hash and city-hash Quicklisp package. CityHash seems to run a little bit faster. SipHash appears to run much slower. 22:12:22 Of course, I may have messed up the quick test ... 22:16:08 -!- ASau` is now known as ASau 22:25:22 -!- oleo [~oleo@xdsl-78-35-186-103.netcologne.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 22:38:44 oleo [~oleo@xdsl-78-35-168-203.netcologne.de] has joined #sbcl 22:52:14 -!- drmeister [~drmeister@155.247.96.196] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:53:09 -!- Bike [~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 22:55:36 -!- attila_lendvai [~attila_le@unaffiliated/attila-lendvai/x-3126965] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 22:56:58 -!- sdemarre [~serge@91.180.114.139] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 23:04:01 Bike [~Glossina@wl-nat101.it.wsu.edu] has joined #sbcl 23:20:11 -!- haxx [~Rob@69.77.176.98] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 23:42:30 haxx [~Rob@135.23.80.105] has joined #sbcl