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terminal] 06:50:38 "Don't know how to REQUIRE SB-SPROF." 06:51:42 -!- ASau` is now known as ASau 06:54:26 oh great, the location of contribs changed 06:58:13 and loading contribs is now three times slower after i load my ASDF config 06:59:21 or actually, after i load ASDF itself 07:01:07 as in ./run-sbcl.sh --eval "(time (mapc 'require '(sb-bsd-sockets sb-posix sb-introspect sb-cltl2 sb-sprof)))" 07:01:19 vs the same thing, but --eval '(require :asdf)' in the beginning 07:13:36 -!- attila_lendvai [~attila_le@unaffiliated/attila-lendvai/x-3126965] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 07:14:46 drmeister [~drmeister@pool-173-59-25-58.phlapa.fios.verizon.net] has joined #sbcl 07:19:11 -!- drmeister [~drmeister@pool-173-59-25-58.phlapa.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 07:23:31 I don't see that. for me the configs load at a constant speed whether asdf has been required or not, and that constant speed is twice as fast as it used to be 07:26:07 maybe you have a different sb-ext:*module-provider-functions* 07:26:50 mine is (ASDF/OPERATE:MODULE-PROVIDE-ASDF SB-IMPL::MODULE-PROVIDE-CONTRIB) 07:27:21 three times slower and 4 times consing 07:28:53 i'm not installing sbcl, as you could have guessed 07:29:22 ah, my test was invalid since I was loading asdf in my sbclrc 07:30:16 ./run-tests.sh => Don't know how to REQUIRE ASDF. 07:30:17 but the general point of it being faster than it used to be still stands 07:30:40 it seems only faster if i load asdf last 07:31:37 *stassats* is amazed at ASDF's ability to waste my time 07:41:30 ./run-sbcl.sh --no-userinit --eval "(require :asdf)" --eval "(time (mapc 'require '(sb-bsd-sockets sb-posix sb-introspect sb-cltl2 sb-sprof)))" 07:41:33 1.1.12.24: 0.152000 seconds of total run time 07:41:36 1.1.12.23: 0.244000 seconds of total run time 07:44:48 that's comparablish, without (require :asdf) it's much more faster 07:48:11 sorry, I understood you as claiming a performance regression 07:48:47 no, just an observation 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-!- Munksgaard [~philip@80-71-132-106.u.parknet.dk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:04:36 -!- mk2 [~user@194.94.34.42] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 16:08:02 -!- tcr [~tcr@77-56-40-229.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 16:25:40 -!- tylergoza [~quassel@72.29.34.246] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:30:20 drmeister [~drmeister@wirelessNAT188.wireless.temple.edu] has joined #sbcl 16:37:04 -!- drmeister [~drmeister@wirelessNAT188.wireless.temple.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 16:37:27 stassats, did you solve your issues? What was at stake? 16:39:01 also, before there was an implicit require asdf in every contrib. Now there isn't, so I'm not sure what you're complaining about: now you DON'T have to require asdf. 16:40:27 and where would you have had the contribs go, now that they're a single fasl per contrib, as opposed to a directory full of source code and fasls? 16:41:16 one directory per contrib, with a single fasl and .asd file in it? 16:42:28 this shouldn't matter to anyone who uses the asdf api without going inside its implementation -- are you doing things to subvert the asdf source-registry or module providing system? 16:43:04 the only location i wouldn't complain about would be the same as before 16:43:08 stassats: or maybe your issue is the slow source-registry scanning the first time you use asdf 16:43:32 so, each contrib in its own directory with one or two files in it? 16:43:48 (why do you care where the contribs are?) 16:44:01 i want to load them 16:44:16 (require ...) does that for you 16:44:34 it doesn't 16:44:40 doesn't?? 16:45:20 works for me, without involving asdf at that 16:46:34 maybe you failed to export a proper SBCL_HOME ? 16:46:59 are you trying to load from an uninstalled sbcl? 16:47:42 export SBCL_HOME=$SBCL_PWD/obj/sbcl-home 16:47:46 yes, because it bloody changed, and i already spent wasted an hour on this issue, i don't want to waste time discussing it any more 16:48:03 sorry about that 16:48:13 I wanted to make uninstalled sbcl more like install sbcl 16:48:30 actually, I wanted to move output/sbcl.core to obj/sbcl-home/sbcl.core so it's totally the same 16:49:58 http://xkcd.com/1172/ 16:50:43 sorry it bit you 16:52:28 well, i can take it, grumblingly, but will it break somebody else's work-flow too? 16:55:29 only people you were loading things manually in an uninstalled sbcl 16:55:50 Instead, I made require work in an uninstalled sbcl with a proper SBCL_HOME 16:56:20 which didn't work before 16:56:32 it did work before 16:57:02 how would you make it work before? 16:57:30 with SBCL_HOME=$SBCL_PWD ? 16:58:14 $SBCL_PWD/contrib 16:59:35 oh. Yeah, that would work if you had precompiled the contribs, though not in a way compatible with packaging one fasl per file then producing a trivial .asd. 16:59:57 probably worthy of a mail to sbcl-devel 17:04:21 drmeister [~drmeister@farnsworth.chem.temple.edu] has joined #sbcl 17:04:36 sent 17:10:58 chris_l [~quassel@p57A5CD0B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #sbcl 17:14:51 tcr [~tcr@213.55.184.142] has joined #sbcl 17:16:13 -!- |3b| [bbb@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:5b65] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:16:39 -!- tcr [~tcr@213.55.184.142] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:17:00 |3b| [bbb@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:5b65] has joined #sbcl 17:34:48 fisxoj [~fisxoj@192-0-131-151.cpe.teksavvy.com] has joined #sbcl 17:34:51 -!- fisxoj [~fisxoj@192-0-131-151.cpe.teksavvy.com] has quit [Client Quit] 17:36:44 -!- nicdev` is now known as nicdev 17:39:03 Sagane [~Sagane@177.100-226-89.dsl.completel.net] has joined #sbcl 17:42:08 -!- drmeister [~drmeister@farnsworth.chem.temple.edu] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:43:38 -!- Sagane [~Sagane@177.100-226-89.dsl.completel.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:48:56 -!- Fare [fare@nat/google/x-fqwnijttfzgmaedh] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 17:52:05 drmeister [~drmeister@wirelessNAT189.wireless.temple.edu] has joined #sbcl 18:11:15 -!- les [moreorles@fsf/member/les] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:37:58 Fare [fare@nat/google/x-tpgkjzzyrojyspsr] has joined #sbcl 18:40:22 Vivitron [~Vivitron@c-50-172-44-193.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #sbcl 18:43:27 -!- Fare [fare@nat/google/x-tpgkjzzyrojyspsr] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 18:44:58 Fare [fare@nat/google/x-nrouxemmodreeqhl] has joined #sbcl 18:50:37 *stassats* manages to get replace of %sbitset with (setf sbit) only 18:51:48 which fixes my latest bug-report 18:53:54 reducing the core size as a side effect 18:59:59 tylergoza [~quassel@76.164.177.16] has joined #sbcl 19:01:33 all other %setsomething can be renamed into (setf something) too 19:05:47 stassats: do transforms work on (setf foo) functions? 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