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That's almost as bad as more-arg processing not being GC-safe on non-x86oids. 18:04:41 At first, I thought of trying to determine why direction to copy in (low-to-high/high-to-low addresses) statically, http://paste.lisp.org/+2Z1T/4. 18:05:35 but, there are additional difficulties if we do that: we musn't rewind RSP before we're done with the copy (nothing, major but still). 18:06:09 So, I thought it would be simpler to just leave the &more vector in place is fixed >= frame-size. And that fails, but I don't understand why. 18:07:01 I probably don't have the project bandwidth to investigate this properly before the weekend, but I'm hoping to at least get some runtime build warning fixes in at that point and might have extra project bandwidth at that point. 18:07:43 -!- Bike [~Glossina@69.166.47.105] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 18:07:49 I probably don't have the project bandwidth to investigate this properly before the weekend, but I'm hoping to at least get some runtime build warning fixes in at that point and might have extra project bandwidth at that point. 18:08:00 Oops. Wrong window for a "repeat last command". (-: 18:13:10 Bike [~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu] has joined #sbcl 18:30:01 attila_lendvai [~attila_le@92.47.220.48] has joined #sbcl 18:30:01 -!- attila_lendvai [~attila_le@92.47.220.48] has quit [Changing host] 18:30:01 attila_lendvai [~attila_le@unaffiliated/attila-lendvai/x-3126965] has joined #sbcl 18:30:30 ok. So we have some code somewhere that assumes that the activation record and the &more vector are contiguous 18:30:49 awesome. I'll just fix the eager-rsp-unwind issue then 18:31:03 it would have been nice to just leave &more args in place 18:34:32 -!- attila_lendvai [~attila_le@unaffiliated/attila-lendvai/x-3126965] has quit [Client Quit] 18:34:38 Vivitron [~Vivitron@c-50-172-44-193.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #sbcl 18:36:38 antoszka [~antoszka@unaffiliated/antoszka] has joined #sbcl 18:46:55 -!- edgar-rft [~GOD@HSI-KBW-109-193-013-113.hsi7.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de] has quit [Quit: experience lost by sudden death] 19:00:13 -!- eeezkil [~eeezkil@unaffiliated/eeezkil] has quit [Quit: ^D] 19:04:25 annotated with a patch that (I believe) computes RSP safely. But the x86 version is much too hairy for today. 19:07:26 -!- Fare [fare@nat/google/x-ejsuiiyzyqoziajl] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 19:14:54 Fare [fare@nat/google/x-qffvrdngaaeomwyb] has joined #sbcl 19:23:21 -!- Fare [fare@nat/google/x-qffvrdngaaeomwyb] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 19:27:54 ehaliewicz [~user@50-0-51-11.dsl.static.sonic.net] has joined #sbcl 19:49:31 sdemarre [~serge@26.66-64-87.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #sbcl 19:54:38 ok. I believe I see how to do x86 simply: we can compute the offset between source and destination statically, so we don't need both a source and a destination pointer. 19:56:34 ESP will be the downmost value of what is now ESP and ESI, and we don't need ESI at all. Once we're done with the copy loop, ESP can be fixed up by the difference between ESP and ESI right now (a constant). 20:00:30 -!- nicdev [user@2600:3c03::f03c:91ff:fedf:4986] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 20:17:58 -!- drmeister [~drmeister@farnsworth.chem.temple.edu] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:25:49 -!- prxq [~mommer@mnhm-590c39f7.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:30:26 -!- sdemarre [~serge@26.66-64-87.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 20:40:31 drmeister [~drmeister@wirelessNAT188.wireless.temple.edu] has joined #sbcl 20:41:18 -!- antoszka [~antoszka@unaffiliated/antoszka] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 20:57:23 -!- drmeister [~drmeister@wirelessNAT188.wireless.temple.edu] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:02:23 -!- Bike [~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 21:08:21 we always have at least one thread structure of a dead thread persisting, why not reuse it for newly created threads? 21:09:09 Bike [~Glossina@69.166.47.143] has joined #sbcl 21:09:15 always as in, when at least one thread finished 21:15:25 may help with things like hunchentoot, which start new threads often 21:15:35 without using any more space for thread pools 21:16:12 (on darwin the number of threads in limbo is even more, 5) 21:20:19 any reason thread pooling can't be pushed to user code, if/when it matters? 21:20:59 it's not really thread pooling, just that the space is already there, might as well reuse it 21:21:10 i haven't done any tests yet 21:22:35 and it shouldn't require any major code changes 21:23:29 do we require zero-filled stack spaces? 21:23:50 stassats: no. 21:25:02 i need to solve those sb-safepoint problems first, but i'm a bit sick of it 21:27:31 We require zero-fill for the control stack on non-x86. 21:27:57 Err... non-x86oid, sorry. 21:28:06 CCL doesn't have stack spaces hanging around, probably because it leaves it for pthreads to manage it 21:32:38 -!- Bike [~Glossina@69.166.47.143] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 21:33:12 nyef: not if the control stack comes from an earlier thread, no? Although, it probably helps GC to zero fill anyway. 21:35:27 If there's been a GC, then the control stack contents might be invalid, especially if the "owning thread" is dead. 21:37:17 ah, true. 21:38:06 i don't see where the thread spaces are zeroed 21:39:39 drmeister [~drmeister@farnsworth.chem.temple.edu] has joined #sbcl 21:41:01 and i'm not sure why implement os_zero instead of just using memset 21:41:39 SSE, at some point. 21:41:56 which memset should exploit even better 21:41:58 and stack alignment too, I think. 21:42:09 stassats: more like not saving SSE registers. 21:42:20 ok 21:42:22 memset -> random FP corruption. 21:43:43 *stassats* haven't tried yet 256-bit wide AVX for zero-filling 21:45:20 rep sto is probably better nowdays. 21:45:36 (for uarchs that support AVX) 21:46:06 allocate-vector-on-stack uses it 21:46:31 but i heard that rep stos is better only past certain size 21:46:35 exactly. 21:47:41 but it has smaller size, so it may be better all around 21:47:53 for inlined things like allocate-vector-on-stack, that is 21:47:57 in inlined code, yes. 21:49:45 Bike [~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu] has joined #sbcl 21:51:17 -!- Vivitron [~Vivitron@c-50-172-44-193.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:53:35 -!- nyef [~nyef@c-50-157-244-41.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 21:54:50 -!- drmeister [~drmeister@farnsworth.chem.temple.edu] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:57:37 -!- angavrilov [~angavrilo@217.71.227.190] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:00:18 -!- Bike [~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 22:02:30 -!- stassats [~stassats@wikipedia/stassats] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 22:06:54 drmeister [~drmeister@166.137.84.226] has joined #sbcl 22:28:33 -!- segv- [~mb@95-91-242-135-dynip.superkabel.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:33:48 -!- drmeister [~drmeister@166.137.84.226] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:43:46 stassats [~stassats@wikipedia/stassats] has joined #sbcl 22:44:06 Bike [~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu] has joined #sbcl 22:45:02 antoszka [~antoszka@unaffiliated/antoszka] has joined #sbcl 22:47:02 -!- Bike [~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu] has quit [Client Quit] 22:47:15 Bike [~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu] has joined #sbcl 22:52:18 -!- stassats [~stassats@wikipedia/stassats] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:02:36 davazp [~user@48.Red-79-150-239.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #sbcl 23:13:47 Bike_ [~Glossina@69.166.47.143] has joined #sbcl 23:14:40 -!- Bike [~Glossina@gannon-wless-gw.resnet.wsu.edu] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:14:43 -!- Bike_ is now known as Bike 23:26:19 -!- tylergoza [~tylergoza@user-24-96-98-239.knology.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:39:38 -!- davazp [~user@48.Red-79-150-239.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:44:14 -!- Bike [~Glossina@69.166.47.143] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:56:29 Bike [~Glossina@wl-nat99.it.wsu.edu] has joined #sbcl