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and the resulting EXE seems to work very well on all the windows versions we've tried thus far. 00:48:40 resulting game exe, that is. 00:49:15 still waiting to hear back about stock 64-bit Windows 7 (no service packs) , and 64-bit WinXP <---- nobody uses this 00:53:14 dto: good stuff. 00:53:38 :) 00:53:40 o 00:53:46 i'll keep you informed. 01:02:08 -!- Bike [~Glossina@71-222-63-148.ptld.qwest.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 01:03:24 Bike_ [~Glossina@71-222-63-148.ptld.qwest.net] has joined #sbcl 01:03:48 -!- Bike_ is now known as Bike 01:21:58 -!- segv- [~mb@95-91-243-233-dynip.superkabel.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:41:27 tcr [~tcr@77-56-40-229.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #sbcl 01:45:47 -!- tcr [~tcr@77-56-40-229.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:56:02 -!- oleo [~oleo@xdsl-78-35-135-178.netcologne.de] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 01:56:57 oleo [~oleo@xdsl-78-35-184-247.netcologne.de] has joined #sbcl 02:07:42 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However, apparently XP64 is something of a technological Frankenstein's Monster in terms of using different components from other MS stuff at the time. While the backtrace will probably be illuminating, i strongly suspect these EXE's will never work on XP64. 15:10:47 just an update :) 15:11:16 (apparently also, nobody uses winxp 64 except this one guy who's testing it for me :) 15:12:09 resistence is furtex branch lol 15:12:15 futex! meh 15:17:05 Bike [~Glossina@75-175-73-78.ptld.qwest.net] has joined #sbcl 15:19:46 well 15:20:03 swap-bytes now passes tests on sbcl, ccl, cmucl and allegro :) 15:20:09 drmeister [~drmeister@farnsworth.chem.temple.edu] has joined #sbcl 15:33:53 -!- attila_lendvai [~attila_le@unaffiliated/attila-lendvai/x-3126965] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:34:05 attila_lendvai [~attila_le@92.46.10.168] has joined #sbcl 15:34:05 -!- attila_lendvai [~attila_le@92.46.10.168] has quit [Changing host] 15:34:05 attila_lendvai [~attila_le@unaffiliated/attila-lendvai/x-3126965] has joined #sbcl 16:00:37 stassats: reguarding define-vop and :translate, does (define-vop (length/list) (:translate length) ... "rename" the vop into length instead of using length/list? 16:00:54 -!- slyrus [~chatzilla@107.200.11.156] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:01:18 the name only matters when invoke the vop directly 16:01:26 so 16:01:35 in length definition in seq.lisp 16:01:37 translation goes through a different mechanism 16:01:50 mmm 16:02:53 which is what happens in (seq-dispatch sequence (length sequence) (length sequence) ..., right? 16:02:59 I mean 16:03:15 if the :translate line was not present in the define-vop 16:03:35 the seq-dispatch should call length/list, right? 16:03:44 if :translate line wasn't present, nothing would happen 16:04:14 :translate is the important bit here, "length/list" is not 16:04:32 :translate and :arg-types 16:04:59 so, what does happen if I use define-static-fun without specifying the :translate key arg? 16:05:22 define-static-fun is a bit orthogonal to this 16:05:57 -!- sdemarre [~serge@109.134.134.139] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 16:05:59 you can define-static-fun any function, it doesn't depend on there being a VOP used to implement such function 16:06:11 ah 16:06:51 that'd be assembly-routines, static-functions implemented in assembly 16:07:47 and they actually do live in the static space 16:08:25 but how do I bind (allow me the term) a define-static-fun to an actual function body or defun? 16:10:09 you mean, what happens when you call a static function? 16:10:32 well, not exactly, but tell me 16:10:47 it's just handled specially 16:10:49 in the compiler 16:11:52 what's the gain in doing that? 16:12:13 cheaper calling 16:12:17 ah ok 16:12:18 static space never moves 16:12:28 ok 16:12:36 still, I don't understand how to define a static function 16:12:43 I mean 16:12:56 define-static-fun takes name, args and a few keyword args 16:13:08 i showed you a diff yesterday 16:13:17 yes I remember 16:13:20 I have it opened here 16:13:28 well, there's nothing more to it 16:16:31 so I have to add the static function name to *static-funs* 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with #+sb-thread it will fail again 22:12:01 right now it passes if i run it by itself 22:12:15 how do i enable the threading? 22:12:18 i guess that's all i need 22:12:24 <|3b|> #+ and #- shouldn't change anything unless you are using a different sbcl 22:12:40 <|3b|> and i think you can't build without threads on current windows version 22:12:59 okay. well then i guess it just passes now. 22:13:10 <|3b|> not all failures happen every time, particularly with thread stuff 22:13:32 i'll try running several copies. 22:14:18 <|3b|> and sometimes it depends on the whole file 22:14:35 you mean all the tests? 22:14:37 <|3b|> you can run just 1 file of tests with ./run-tests.sh whichever-file.lisp 22:14:51 |3b|: oh. thats what i was looking for. 22:18:39 thanks |3b| . hmm it seems to pass 22:19:58 but now some deadlock test fails and the process dies. hmm 22:20:54 Posterdati [~antani@host147-171-dynamic.11-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #sbcl 22:21:39 <|3b|> yeah, was failing in lots of different ways and different places when i was trying it :/ 22:22:30 well im glad its a single threaded game. 22:24:16 i'll run the whole suite 22:26:04 -!- drmeister [~drmeister@farnsworth.chem.temple.edu] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:28:41 -!- pjb` is now known as pjb 22:31:55 danlentz_ [~danlentz@c-68-37-70-235.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #sbcl 22:33:09 -!- xymox [lechuck@unaffiliated/contempt] has quit [Disconnected by services] 22:33:09 I'm not sure i'll get anywhere with this. 22:33:25 |3b|: i'll test it as much as possible before deploying. 22:33:30 cow-orke1 [~foobar@pogostick.net] has joined #sbcl 22:33:35 |3b|: you wouldn't happen to have a copy of real windows would you? 22:33:44 (to test something on) 22:33:46 xymox [lechuck@unaffiliated/contempt] has joined #sbcl 22:33:50 *|3b|* has a few, but not running at the moment 22:33:54 np 22:34:24 maybe i should figure out how to use virtual machines. bu 22:34:31 -!- danlentz 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made with SBCL 1.1.9 under Wine, work on unpatched Windows 7 22:59:47 Service Pack 1 and later always made it work, 23:00:08 but the real way to bring out the incompatibility with VirtualAlloc / VirtualProtect, was unpatched Win7 23:00:18 so , the incompatibility is fixed! 23:04:01 go sbcl team!!! 23:04:03 :) 23:04:26 |3b|: i'll still do more thorough testing of course, but this is a great sign. 23:05:21 it also works on: 32-bit Win7 no patches (above was 64-bit) 23:05:41 and thus far on Windows 8. 23:06:06 i'll try to test XP next as well. 23:09:10 drmeister [~drmeister@pool-71-185-168-200.phlapa.fios.verizon.net] has joined #sbcl 23:18:07 -!- Bike [~Glossina@71-222-63-186.ptld.qwest.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 23:20:43 -!- dto [~user@96.252.62.13] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:21:49 Bike [~Glossina@71-222-63-186.ptld.qwest.net] has joined #sbcl 23:39:15 rpg [~rpg@216.243.156.16.real-time.com] has joined #sbcl 23:58:23 dto 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