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Leaving.] 06:58:36 oops, compiling (typep x '(unsigned-byte 2305843009213693950)) exhausts heap 06:58:59 due to (specifier-type '(unsigned-byte 2305843009213693950)) 06:59:15 oh, does it actually do an exponentiation? 06:59:30 it does 07:03:01 i guess having a specialized power of two ctype would be kind of weird 07:04:03 it's a continuable heap exhaustion, though 07:04:45 maybe it should say :note 2^2305843009213693950 exceed most-positive-bignum 07:05:07 kind of curious how often one works with quintillion-bit integers 07:05:31 when one forgets to replace UNSIGNED-BYTE with MOD 07:05:45 haha. 07:14:38 *stassats`* just noticed the inclusion of sb-gmp 07:14:52 too bad i don't have anything to do with large numbers 07:38:40 -!- drmeister [~drmeister@184.71.117.234] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:00:09 -!- pipping_ [~pipping@tchaikovsky.exherbo.org] has quit [Changing host] 08:00:09 pipping_ [~pipping@exherbo/developer/pipping] has joined #sbcl 08:00:12 -!- pipping_ is 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about the power two? 14:49:02 of two 14:49:57 you can test for fixnumness and (mod 2^k) with a single TEST. That case as well is more directly expressed as a flag-setting VOP 14:50:22 you mean when using multiple vops? 14:50:26 yes. 14:55:02 and indeed, multiple vops do not work 14:55:16 do not work how? 14:55:43 the correct one is not selected 14:56:02 why? how did you set the costs? 14:56:06 in what situations? 14:57:29 lower cost for fixnums 14:58:24 have you tried one VOP for fixnum/untagged-num, and one VOP for the rest? 15:07:05 that seems better 15:10:52 -!- joshe [~joshe@2001:470:e862::1:1] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 15:13:18 pkhuong: http://paste.lisp.org/display/138000#2 15:17:13 stassats`: is there a reason signed-nums aren't in there? 15:17:51 also, if you only perform a test and a jcc, we'll get better code with :conditional vops that specify a flag. 15:18:06 numericisim, we ain't serving no signeds in 'ere 15:19:27 looking at the structure, it's probably simplest to have a VOP for any-type and mod power-of-two, and then split between [un]tagged-num and * 15:21:14 maxm [~user@unaffiliated/maxm] has joined #sbcl 15:22:23 so, three vops in total? 15:22:30 or four? 15:24:30 three. 15:24:44 I'd rather have four, but selection is what it is. 15:38:30 Sagane [~Sagane@177.100-226-89.dsl.completel.net] has joined #sbcl 15:40:19 looks like four 15:40:55 http://paste.lisp.org/display/138000#3 15:42:10 stassats`: sure... but the fixnum case could be handled like *, if you wanted to. 15:42:36 -!- loke [~loke_@42.61.218.195] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:42:38 what do you mean? 15:42:56 you don't care if you have a fixnum or a * 15:42:58 it's the same code. 15:43:32 but that's to fool vop selection 15:43:54 fool how? 15:44:55 you can have one VOP for all mod power of two tests 15:45:23 ah, you're talking about power-of-two 15:46:09 right "a VOP for any-type and mod power-of-two", three in total. 15:49:37 ok, looks right now 15:52:39 only that i can't build with it 15:52:46 uncertain in SB!XC:TYPEP 4611686018427387900 (SATISFIES SB!VM::POWER-OF-TWO-LIMIT-P) 15:56:59 i can introduce :satisfies to define-vop 15:58:38 abarch [~user@2001:638:504:2093:21d:9ff:fe30:1f87] has joined #sbcl 15:59:17 is power-of-two-limit-p defined early enough? 15:59:42 it is, but it just can't do complex typeps during xc 15:59:48 ah, 16:01:02 or rather, i can handle (:constant (satisfies 16:01:16 sure. 16:02:33 if a new define-vop clause was introduced, we might have a better payoff with an arbitrary applicable-p predicate. it could look at all arguments and result TNs simultaneously. 16:11:32 that did the trick 16:13:27 -!- maxm [~user@unaffiliated/maxm] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:16:16 sdemarre [~serge@91.180.127.203] has joined #sbcl 16:17:55 joshe [~joshe@2001:470:e862::1:1] has joined #sbcl 16:29:30 -!- Bike [~Glossina@67-5-212-65.ptld.qwest.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 16:30:50 Bike [~Glossina@174-25-53-15.ptld.qwest.net] has joined #sbcl 17:12:10 -!- wbooze [~wbooze@xdsl-78-35-157-56.netcologne.de] has quit [Quit: none] 17:15:12 wbooze [~wbooze@xdsl-78-35-157-56.netcologne.de] has joined #sbcl 17:30:03 brown [user@nat/google/x-ipcdtyyzkmrlutts] has joined #sbcl 17:35:27 -!- wbooze [~wbooze@xdsl-78-35-157-56.netcologne.de] has quit [Quit: none] 17:37:29 wbooze [~wbooze@xdsl-78-35-157-56.netcologne.de] has joined #sbcl 17:39:19 -!- wbooze [~wbooze@xdsl-78-35-157-56.netcologne.de] has quit [Client Quit] 17:40:21 using MAXSS for MAX on single floats achieves some minor speed ups 17:40:55 MAXSD for doubles can't be used because of boxing 17:42:23 and sqrt for single floats is calculated by going through doubles, using sqrtss is slightly faster 17:43:04 as well as using single float variants of libc floating points, i wonder if making it a build option would be beneficial 17:43:39 (not by default, since it isn't present everywhere and older glibc has bad performance and precision of them) 17:49:25 stassats`: in theory, we should be using direct single float variants when possible. 17:52:24 probably all the targets have *f variants 17:52:49 but that still leaves bad performance on recently old glibc 17:57:43 looks like sqrt is the only fp operation implemented with vops, not glibc 18:05:31 sqrt is defined in IEEE, alongside the 4 arithmetic operations 18:05:49 maxm [~user@openchat.com] has joined #sbcl 18:05:56 transcendentals are much more rarely implemented in hardware, and will be very slow anyway. 18:06:27 sse 4_1 also has rounds* 18:07:00 I don't think we go to libc for that. 18:07:03 well, libm. 18:07:16 i'm just looking at what can be used 18:09:10 sse also has reciprocal instructions 18:09:24 it's lossy. only 12 bits of precision. 18:09:32 i see 18:09:53 If you insert enough NR iterations to get ~1 ulp, you're basically as slow as a full divide, and don't handle all the corner cases. 18:11:59 -!- asedeno [~asedeno@66.102.14.24] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:13:22 hmm, I'm having problem with SBCL slurping of :run-program pipe.. its around 10x as slow as C programs (tested with wc -l from shell), http://paste.lisp.org/display/138009 18:13:39 is there any way to speed it up, if I don't care about strings at all, they are passed to C anyway as blobs 18:13:56 just care about .. Do I have to split myself? 18:14:00 :utf-8 will be slow. 18:14:32 hmm I tried with latin-1 too, maybe it did not take 18:15:07 slurping a large sequence and splitting it up yourself may well be quicker too. 18:15:47 yea I guessed so.. At least its much better then iolib, which was like 700 times slower 18:18:04 looks like sqrt, maxss, minss and round is about it 18:18:33 asedeno [~asedeno@66.102.14.24] has joined #sbcl 18:18:59 if you need reified string objects (rather than just offsets to the array), the existing read-line is pretty good 18:20:31 hmm, how do I make sb-ext:run-program use :element-type '(unsigned-byte 8) 18:20:40 you can't 18:20:43 bah 18:20:49 you got to be kidding me 18:21:04 wbooze [~wbooze@xdsl-78-35-157-56.netcologne.de] has joined #sbcl 18:21:31 I guess wrapper script that makes a fifo, here we go 18:23:08 it's an FD stream, so it's bivalent, and you can just read-sequence into a byte vector. 18:23:17 ah ok thanks 18:23:32 you can also pass it back to run-program. 18:24:05 hmm, would not run-program run serve-events when I do it? 18:24:15 probably. 18:24:16 -!- wbooze [~wbooze@xdsl-78-35-157-56.netcologne.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:24:57 this program is basically a central dispetcher for my data drivers, that shuffles quotes between data vendors and consumer process via zmq 18:25:17 but it also got a replayer, which feeds a compressed quote feed log istead 18:25:19 instead 18:25:20 "whoa" 18:25:29 wbooze [~wbooze@xdsl-78-35-157-56.netcologne.de] has joined #sbcl 18:25:59 maxm: how did you measure performance ? 18:26:05 I'm porting it from C++ and custom API, to Lisp and ZMQ.. Thought it would be easier with more ad-hoc language :-) apparently running into tiny problems like this 18:26:11 if some part of iolib is slow, I want to know about it 18:26:51 I'm at the part of measuring performance now. Its not that I have to give up the architecture, if Lisp performance is no good, program still will be ported to ZMQ architecture, just will stay C++ 18:27:56 anyway thanks, if you don't hear from me, assume read-sequence was fine :-) 18:28:43 http://paste.lisp.org/display/138009 18:29:28 unrar-test prints around 2-3 gigs of ascii lines, usually around 200 chars each 18:29:33 ehaliewicz [~user@50-0-51-11.dsl.static.sonic.net] has joined #sbcl 18:30:54 reusing storage will help then. 18:31:09 fe[nl]ix: I annotated it with one I used with iolib 18:34:16 where's +unrar-test+ ? 18:35:00 -!- wbooze [~wbooze@xdsl-78-35-157-56.netcologne.de] has quit [Quit: Client Disconnect] 18:38:12 fe[nl]ix: its not really relevant but its (defparameter +unrar-test+ '(:shell "rar p -inul /data/2009/iqfeed_20090130.log.rar")) 18:39:29 if you need to repeat, just generate around 2-3 gig file with lines like these http://i.imgur.com/ZNmohZE.png, then rar it 18:49:46 wbooze 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