00:00:51 -!- Tribal [tribal@rcfreak0.com] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 00:02:51 Tribal [tribal@rcfreak0.com] has joined #sbcl 00:10:04 -!- echo-area [~user@111.196.6.164] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 00:58:21 -!- foreignFunction [~niksaak@ip-4761.sunline.net.ua] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 01:18:40 -!- Quadrescence [~quad@unaffiliated/quadrescence] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 01:25:26 Quadrescence [~quad@unaffiliated/quadrescence] has joined #sbcl 01:36:27 -!- Bike [~Glossina@75-175-79-177.ptld.qwest.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 02:04:37 Bike [~Glossina@75-175-79-177.ptld.qwest.net] has joined #sbcl 02:18:41 echo-area [~user@182.92.247.2] has joined #sbcl 02:38:57 -!- christoph_debian [~christoph@ppp-93-104-175-59.dynamic.mnet-online.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:51:50 -!- easye [~user@213.33.70.157] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:51:58 teggi [~teggi@123.20.119.146] has joined #sbcl 02:52:40 easye [~user@213.33.70.157] has joined #sbcl 02:53:01 christoph_debian [~christoph@ppp-188-174-136-122.dynamic.mnet-online.de] has joined #sbcl 03:06:28 -!- Bike [~Glossina@75-175-79-177.ptld.qwest.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 03:27:52 drmeister [~drmeister@S01060016cbad556d.vf.shawcable.net] has joined #sbcl 03:45:56 -!- echo-area [~user@182.92.247.2] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:50:58 echo-area [~user@182.92.247.2] has joined #sbcl 03:58:27 -!- Quadrescence [~quad@unaffiliated/quadrescence] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 04:05:19 -!- drmeister [~drmeister@S01060016cbad556d.vf.shawcable.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:18:01 Bike_ [~Glossina@75-175-79-177.ptld.qwest.net] has joined #sbcl 04:22:55 -!- Bike_ [~Glossina@75-175-79-177.ptld.qwest.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 04:23:34 drmeister [~drmeister@S01060016cbad556d.vf.shawcable.net] has joined #sbcl 04:26:37 -!- drmeister [~drmeister@S01060016cbad556d.vf.shawcable.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:27:12 drmeister [~drmeister@S01060016cbad556d.vf.shawcable.net] has joined #sbcl 04:32:00 pranavrc [~pranavrc@122.174.25.210] has joined #sbcl 04:32:00 -!- pranavrc [~pranavrc@122.174.25.210] has quit [Changing host] 04:32:00 pranavrc [~pranavrc@unaffiliated/pranavrc] has joined #sbcl 04:50:55 -!- drmeister [~drmeister@S01060016cbad556d.vf.shawcable.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 04:51:46 -!- pranavrc [~pranavrc@unaffiliated/pranavrc] has quit [Quit: Ping timeout: ] 05:06:06 slyrus [~chatzilla@107.200.11.156] has joined #sbcl 05:07:15 -!- slyrus [~chatzilla@107.200.11.156] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:08:34 -!- yacks [~py@180.151.36.168] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 05:09:32 Bike [~Glossina@75-175-79-177.ptld.qwest.net] has joined #sbcl 05:30:11 -!- Bike [~Glossina@75-175-79-177.ptld.qwest.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 05:33:08 Bike_ [~Glossina@75-175-79-177.ptld.qwest.net] has joined #sbcl 05:36:00 yacks [~py@180.151.36.168] has joined #sbcl 05:37:52 prxq [~mommer@mnhm-590c09fe.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #sbcl 05:39:22 -!- Bike_ is now known as Bike 05:45:41 drmeister [~drmeister@S01060016cbad556d.vf.shawcable.net] has joined #sbcl 05:57:50 danlentz_ [~danlentz@c-68-37-70-235.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #sbcl 06:00:34 -!- danlentz [~danlentz@c-68-37-70-235.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:00:34 -!- danlentz_ is now known as danlentz 06:16:38 -!- drmeister [~drmeister@S01060016cbad556d.vf.shawcable.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:16:46 drmeiste_ [~drmeister@S01060016cbad556d.vf.shawcable.net] has joined #sbcl 06:16:49 -!- drmeiste_ [~drmeister@S01060016cbad556d.vf.shawcable.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:17:12 drmeister [~drmeister@S01060016cbad556d.vf.shawcable.net] has joined #sbcl 06:30:18 -!- Bike [~Glossina@75-175-79-177.ptld.qwest.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 06:37:46 -!- drmeister [~drmeister@S01060016cbad556d.vf.shawcable.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:38:29 drmeister [~drmeister@S01060016cbad556d.vf.shawcable.net] has joined #sbcl 06:45:59 -!- drmeister [~drmeister@S01060016cbad556d.vf.shawcable.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:46:13 drmeister [~drmeister@S01060016cbad556d.vf.shawcable.net] has joined #sbcl 06:53:54 stassats [~stassats@wikipedia/stassats] has joined #sbcl 07:05:41 -!- drmeister [~drmeister@S01060016cbad556d.vf.shawcable.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:05:46 drmeiste_ [~drmeister@S01060016cbad556d.vf.shawcable.net] has joined #sbcl 07:13:59 -!- drmeiste_ [~drmeister@S01060016cbad556d.vf.shawcable.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:33:57 -!- kanru [~kanru@118-163-10-190.HINET-IP.hinet.net] has quit [Quit: rcirc on GNU Emacs 24.3.50.2] 07:34:49 kanru [~kanru@118-163-10-190.HINET-IP.hinet.net] has joined #sbcl 08:02:20 -!- stassats [~stassats@wikipedia/stassats] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 08:33:29 <|3b|> hmm, one of the lockups i get from sbcl tests on windows seems to be GC getting stuck in a loop collecting gen 1 and 7 alternately over and over 08:34:38 <|3b|> or rather repeatedly collecting gen 7, which does a scan of either gen 1 or 7 08:56:52 <|3b|> or more specifically "one full scan of newspace generation 1" or "one full scan of newspace generation 7" 09:07:04 angavrilov [~angavrilo@217.71.227.190] has joined #sbcl 09:09:22 attila_lendvai [~attila_le@37.218.145.109] has joined #sbcl 09:09:22 -!- attila_lendvai [~attila_le@37.218.145.109] has quit [Changing host] 09:09:22 attila_lendvai [~attila_le@unaffiliated/attila-lendvai/x-3126965] has joined #sbcl 09:17:34 -!- attila_lendvai [~attila_le@unaffiliated/attila-lendvai/x-3126965] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 09:30:14 mm.. Trying to see how it could be windows-specific 09:31:06 *|3b|* wonders if anyone uses safepoints on other platforms 09:35:13 <|3b|> also a bit suspicious that it seems to be looping at almost exactly 1 sec 10:01:45 <_8hzp> stassats was using safepoints on Linux for while IIANM 10:02:05 <|3b|> any way to cause windows sbcl to break into lisp debugger when it is stuck? 10:02:18 <_8hzp> stuck? 10:02:45 <_8hzp> (does C-c not work? Maybe I'm misunderstanding.) 10:02:47 <|3b|> sitting in a loop, running a GC every second or so 10:03:00 <|3b|> i thought C-c made it exit? 10:03:19 <_8hzp> that was _so_ last year 10:03:26 *|3b|* is running it inside a msys term rather than cmd, which might affect that sort of thing 10:09:12 <|3b|> yeah, seems to be cmd vs msys shell or terminal 10:10:52 -!- teggi [~teggi@123.20.119.146] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:17:55 *fe[nl]ix* builds with :sb-safepoint, :sb-thruption and :sb-wtimer 10:20:11 <|3b|> running it in sh inside cmd, C-c gives me a debugger and kills sbcl :/ 10:21:09 <_8hzp> kills how? 10:21:25 <|3b|> exits to shell after printing some of the debugger 10:22:01 <_8hzp> no error message? no windows error popup? 10:22:29 <|3b|> nope, just gone 10:23:37 <|3b|> wouldn't be surprised if it is same thing as in sh in msys shell, just happens to print more first 10:23:45 <_8hzp> can you reproduce that with SBCL_DYNDEBUG=all sbcl.exe 2>logfile (not sure whether it really goes to stderr, but I'd think so) 10:27:26 <_8hzp> ... can't find the recent email thread on this subject ... 10:28:05 <|3b|> doesn't seem to manage to print the debugger stuff before dieing with dyndebug 10:28:41 <_8hzp> let's see the log then 10:29:29 <|3b|> actually, am running./run-sbcl.sh instead sbcl.exe if that matters 10:32:32 and it passes all tests 10:32:33 :) 10:32:50 <|3b|> fe[nl]ix: on linux? 10:33:44 Linux x86_64 10:34:19 <|3b|> _8hzp: http://3bb.cc/tmp/sbcl/logfile 10:34:42 *|3b|* is more worried about the random crashes/lockups/test failures than not being able to use C-c though :p 10:40:49 <_8hzp> do either of those two problems happen in SBCL circa Feb 2013 (i.e. back when I was still testing stuff? :-)) 10:40:59 <_8hzp> for that matter, does the affected version pass tests? 10:42:10 <|3b|> current version usually breaks at random in tests (which is what i was trying to isolate to start with) 10:42:45 <|3b|> no idea if it is a side effect of my environment or not, since other people seem to think windows port is doing reasonably well 10:44:38 <|3b|> any particular old version that would be good to try? 10:44:49 <_8hzp> dunno. Last commit made by me? ;-) 10:45:25 <_8hzp> you're not running something silly, like a pre-Vista windows, right? 10:45:33 <|3b|> win7 10:47:03 *|3b|* tries building 1.1.3 10:48:11 <_8hzp> Note that 64 bit SBCL (on 64 bit windows) might not be as, uhm, "perfect" as 32 bit SBCL (on 32 bit windows). But stuff like C-c ought to work mostly. 10:48:43 <|3b|> yeah, currently poking at 64bit, though pretty sure i was having problems with 32 10:48:47 what's the expected performance penalty of safepoint & thruption ? 10:48:51 <|3b|> suppose i should probably look at that first :) 10:49:44 <_8hzp> fe[nl]ix: mcracauer reports 1.2-1.7% on his software 10:50:42 in compiling iolib from scratch I get ~6% 10:51:00 <_8hzp> aha. Does it get better with you also enable sb-safepoint-strictly in addition? 10:51:35 <_8hzp> didn't make much difference for Martin, unfortunately, but who knows 10:51:47 but I guess the compiler generates a lot of garbage, that's why 10:52:18 sb-safepoint-strictly is not described in base-target-features.lisp-expr 10:52:19 <_8hzp> (Also, is that a sample of 1 compilation runs, or best out of X, or some average? Is it wall clock time, cpu run time, does it include system time? ...) 10:53:12 user time as printed by cl:time, an average of two runs 10:53:49 <_8hzp> ... maybe it ought to be documented there. It's still experimental. It disabled pseudo-atomic entirely in favour of safepoints, so that there is only safepoint overhead, not safepoint overhead + p/a overhead. 10:53:57 *_8hzp* needs to go back to work 10:57:15 <|3b|> 1.1.3 seems to have built OK, running tests 10:57:53 <|3b|> 32bit build of head broke in warm init, "internal error #9 (Object is not of type (MOD X).)" 10:58:47 *|3b|* wonders if i windows uses ram differently from linux and i should run memtest or something 11:05:19 <|3b|> tests on 1.1.3 x8664 seem to have stopped after saying "not ok" 4 times 11:06:22 *|3b|* starts a 32 bit build 11:08:44 <|3b|> hmm, 32bit build of head failed again same way 11:10:41 *|3b|* tries a clean checkout 11:22:46 <|3b|> clean checkout seems to have built OK 11:23:33 <|3b|> and tests on 1.1.3 32 and 64 bit seem to be locked up 11:24:03 <|3b|> so doesn't seem to be a regression, it just doesn't like my system :p 11:38:12 -!- echo-area [~user@182.92.247.2] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:50:50 scymtym_ [~user@ip-5-147-122-209.unitymediagroup.de] has joined #sbcl 11:51:02 foreignFunction [~niksaak@ip-4761.sunline.net.ua] has joined #sbcl 12:59:27 Quadrescence [~quad@unaffiliated/quadrescence] has joined #sbcl 13:05:36 -!- psilord [~psilord@c-69-180-173-249.hsd1.mn.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 13:32:34 wbooze [~wbooze@xdsl-78-35-150-68.netcologne.de] has joined #sbcl 13:40:23 segv- [~mb@95-91-241-75-dynip.superkabel.de] has joined #sbcl 13:52:59 psilord [~pkeller@23-25-144-217-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has joined #sbcl 13:57:37 quizme [~quizme@121.97.56.138] has joined #sbcl 14:02:13 nicdev` [user@2600:3c03::f03c:91ff:fedf:4986] has joined #sbcl 14:02:16 -!- nicdev [user@2600:3c03::f03c:91ff:fedf:4986] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:13:53 teggi [~teggi@123.20.119.146] has joined #sbcl 14:29:24 -!- nicdev` is now known as nicdev 14:48:15 pranavrc [~pranavrc@122.164.70.191] has joined #sbcl 14:48:16 -!- pranavrc [~pranavrc@122.164.70.191] has quit [Changing host] 14:48:16 pranavrc [~pranavrc@unaffiliated/pranavrc] has joined #sbcl 14:50:21 -!- quizme [~quizme@121.97.56.138] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:04:18 drmeister [~drmeister@S01060016cbad556d.vf.shawcable.net] has joined #sbcl 15:22:09 -!- pranavrc [~pranavrc@unaffiliated/pranavrc] has quit [Quit: Ping timeout: ] 15:29:41 -!- teggi [~teggi@123.20.119.146] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:23:00 -!- drmeister [~drmeister@S01060016cbad556d.vf.shawcable.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:23:03 drmeiste_ [~drmeister@S01060016cbad556d.vf.shawcable.net] has joined #sbcl 16:23:36 -!- drmeiste_ is now known as drmeister 16:44:22 -!- easye [~user@213.33.70.157] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:46:57 easye [~user@213.33.70.157] has joined #sbcl 18:05:05 -!- abarch [~user@2001:638:504:2093:21d:9ff:fe30:1f87] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:05:33 -!- scymtym [~user@2001:638:504:2093:226:b9ff:fe7d:3e1f] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 18:07:28 -!- psilord [~pkeller@23-25-144-217-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 18:24:49 -!- Quadrescence [~quad@unaffiliated/quadrescence] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 18:25:35 Quadrescence [~quad@unaffiliated/quadrescence] has joined #sbcl 18:34:37 ASau` [~user@p4FF96C9E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #sbcl 18:37:57 -!- ASau [~user@p4FF96933.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 18:38:03 -!- ASau` is now known as ASau 18:38:52 Bike [~Glossina@75-175-79-177.ptld.qwest.net] has joined #sbcl 18:43:03 -!- easye [~user@213.33.70.157] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:43:46 easye [~user@213.33.70.157] has joined #sbcl 19:11:00 -!- drmeister [~drmeister@S01060016cbad556d.vf.shawcable.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:18:53 Killed buffer 19:31:58 -!- Bike [~Glossina@75-175-79-177.ptld.qwest.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 19:33:56 Bike [~Glossina@174-25-53-240.ptld.qwest.net] has joined #sbcl 20:19:49 -!- wbooze [~wbooze@xdsl-78-35-150-68.netcologne.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 20:25:01 -!- angavrilov [~angavrilo@217.71.227.190] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:32:12 drmeister [~drmeister@S01060016cbad556d.vf.shawcable.net] has joined #sbcl 20:32:15 -!- drmeister [~drmeister@S01060016cbad556d.vf.shawcable.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:57:04 -!- nicdev [user@2600:3c03::f03c:91ff:fedf:4986] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:04:11 nicdev [user@2600:3c03::f03c:91ff:fedf:4986] has joined #sbcl 21:20:55 jarod____ [~jarod_che@115.193.164.95] has joined #sbcl 21:22:43 -!- jarod_ch_ [~jarod_che@115.192.109.149] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 21:25:58 -!- prxq [~mommer@mnhm-590c09fe.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:26:43 |3b|` [bbb@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:5b65] has joined #sbcl 21:27:51 -!- |3b| [bbb@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fedf:5b65] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 21:33:27 -!- Bike [~Glossina@174-25-53-240.ptld.qwest.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 21:34:26 Bike [~Glossina@174-25-53-240.ptld.qwest.net] has joined #sbcl 21:53:09 -!- Bike [~Glossina@174-25-53-240.ptld.qwest.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 21:53:33 Bike [~Glossina@174-25-53-240.ptld.qwest.net] has joined #sbcl 22:11:19 Quadresce_ [~quad@unaffiliated/quadrescence] has joined #sbcl 22:12:31 -!- Quadrescence [~quad@unaffiliated/quadrescence] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 22:13:40 -!- Quadresce_ is now known as Quadrescence 22:27:31 -!- Quadrescence [~quad@unaffiliated/quadrescence] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 22:28:34 i am writing a restart for open and have a question, if you provide a new filename, i am assigning the new value to OPEN argument filename and jumping to restart OPEN evaluation. This generates a compiler note http://paste.lisp.org/display/137885 22:28:36 psilord [~psilord@c-69-180-173-249.hsd1.mn.comcast.net] has joined #sbcl 22:29:19 suggestions on an alternative way to reevaluate open with the new filename? 23:14:14 drmeister [~drmeister@S010610ddb1c81950.vf.shawcable.net] has joined #sbcl