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#sbcl 08:55:22 lp 1177703 08:55:22 https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1177703 08:55:32 stassats: thanks for your help 08:56:39 interestingly, that only happens when you specify the constructor args 08:59:06 scymtym_: so, a workaround is not to inline the constructor 08:59:31 stassats: yes 08:59:39 i was just playing around, though 09:00:02 the problem is not really important or urgent for me 09:00:53 i'll try to look at it in the evening, but it doesn't look something i would be able to figure out yet 09:01:21 maybe a cast is missing, or something like that 09:01:54 stassats: i have no idea either; this is /way/ beyond my SBCL expertise 09:04:27 -!- attila_lendvai [~attila_le@unaffiliated/attila-lendvai/x-3126965] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 09:09:28 _8david [~user@port-212-202-134-139.static.qsc.de] has joined #sbcl 09:10:25 it doesn't happen in 1.0.42.10, so bisection might help 09:12:39 stassats: i will try 09:13:21 ok 09:14:38 -!- specbot [~specbot@50.7.166.114] has quit [Remote host 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*|3b|* should learn to build sbcl with smaller heap than amount of physical ram, swapping to laptop HD is slow :( 10:00:18 angavrilov [~angavrilo@217.71.227.190] has joined #sbcl 10:09:37 -!- davazp [~user@92.251.193.66.threembb.ie] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 10:30:24 davazp [~user@178.167.194.16.threembb.ie] has joined #sbcl 10:30:57 nicdev [user@2600:3c03::f03c:91ff:fedf:4986] has joined #sbcl 10:32:01 <|3b|> did the thing with the debugger getting confused and using up all ram get fixed yet? 10:32:27 *|3b|* is starting to suspect that's what i'm running into 10:35:59 -!- p_l|omoikane [~pl@81-18-213-39.static.chello.pl] has quit [Quit: leaving] 10:36:12 rassoc thing? no, but it only affects when you call rassoc with wrong arguments 10:36:34 other functions possibly too, if they are lucky to overwrite rcx 10:36:53 <|3b|> hmm, i wonder if ironclad:update-hmac is lucky too 10:37:15 <|3b|> any way to tell if it is same thing from ldb? 10:37:48 *stassats* looks at the disassembly 10:37:58 yeah, same thing 10:44:07 i wonder why nobody had discovered it before yesterday? 10:44:55 <|3b|> luck? and probably most of the testing is on code that works anyway 10:45:21 it's been there for a year 10:45:47 more interesting is that you run into it the next day i find it 10:45:50 <|3b|> yeah, that makes luck a bit less likely then 10:46:38 <|3b|> possibly something else changed that was masking it? 10:47:37 it only should postulate itself in case of type-check + &optional/&key processing 10:50:05 i'll see if i can fix it in a good way, otherwise i'll just disable that prettyfying part 10:50:11 of the backtrace printer 10:53:48 *|3b|* will try to avoid getting arguments wrong until then :) 11:17:18 -!- davazp [~user@178.167.194.16.threembb.ie] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:20:27 p_l|omoikane [~pl@81-18-213-39.static.chello.pl] has joined #sbcl 11:20:34 -!- edgar-rft [~GOD@HSI-KBW-149-172-63-75.hsi13.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de] has quit [Quit: 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#sbcl 12:55:48 segv- [~mb@95-91-241-72-dynip.superkabel.de] has joined #sbcl 13:01:23 nyef [~nyef@c-50-157-244-41.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #sbcl 13:01:30 LiamH [~none@132.250.138.103] has joined #sbcl 13:01:44 G'morning all. 13:04:30 Rewriting MAP-ALLOCATED-OBJECTS is clearly worthy of a NEWS entry, but is it a bug-fix, an enhancement, an optimization, a notice, or something else entirely? 13:04:45 all of the above? 13:07:31 Right, so what do I put into the NEWS file when I commit the rewrite? 13:07:37 whatever you feel like :) 13:07:52 pranavrc [~pranavrc@122.174.39.237] has joined #sbcl 13:07:52 -!- pranavrc [~pranavrc@122.174.39.237] has quit [Changing host] 13:07:52 pranavrc [~pranavrc@unaffiliated/pranavrc] has joined #sbcl 13:07:58 enahncetization-fix 13:11:09 stassats: BTW, I was looking at the ancestor-frame-ref debugging thing yesterday, and found debug-var-value and %set-debug-var-value in debug-int.lisp, and was horrified. 13:11:32 What happens if you're trying to debug a function that takes a value-cell as a parameter? 13:11:42 Or otherwise deals with value-cells directly? 13:18:59 Oh, and that backtrace thing from earlier? My initial implementation is http://repo.or.cz/w/sbcl/nyef.git/commitdiff/7a5f0614d6ab253bd81c321a0c1b016a93888f00 but I don't think it's ready to merge yet. 13:21:00 which backtrace thing? 13:21:16 Backtraces truncated on x86-64 freebsd threads. 13:21:21 ah 13:21:35 But only when there's a signal handler involved. 13:37:13 wbooze [~wbooze@xdsl-78-35-160-115.netcologne.de] has joined #sbcl 13:38:08 -!- drmeister [~drmeister@166.137.85.68] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:39:14 drmeister [~drmeister@166.137.85.68] has joined #sbcl 13:42:23 nyef: put it as "MAP-ALLOCATED-OBJECTS-class change: Rewrite of MAPS-ALLOCATED-OBJECTS " 13:46:29 Hey 13:46:43 samebchase [~samuel@codesurfers.net] has joined #sbcl 13:46:56 drmeister: Okay, to continue, each thread in SBCL maintains a linked-list of stack-allocated unwind-protect blocks. 13:47:15 So sbcl uses unwind-blocks and catch-blocks for non-local exits. 13:47:50 Each unwind-protect block contains a link to the next outer block, plus a "dynamic environment", which basically means stack pointers for the binding, control, and alien stacks. 13:48:24 Ok. 13:48:39 Each catch block contains a link to the next outer unwind-protect block and the dynamic environment. 13:48:47 Oh, and there's also a frame pointer in each block. 13:50:11 vi1 [~vi1@93.92.216.186] has joined #sbcl 13:50:45 In LLVM all code has to live within functions and functions contain basic-blocks where you only enter from the top and exit from the bottom. 13:50:45 I'm thinking about how to map what you are explaining onto that. 13:51:20 I mean in SBCL you generate code/data wherever and however you want - right? 13:51:25 Oh, and there's an entry point for a landing pad that calls a "cleanup function". 13:53:20 The cleanup function closes over anything in the outer function that it needs to touch, as it runs in its own stack frame. 13:56:25 It's probably pretty similar to what you're using, except that we use a linked list of cleanup blocks instead of walking the stack to find the cleanup functions, and one particular aspect of cleanup is handled by keeping the relevant information on a special stack and just popping elements off of it and cleaning them up until it reaches the correct level. 13:56:25 That all sounds very C++ interoperation unfriendly - in that it is completely orthogonal to the C++ exception handling ABI - correct? 13:56:30 Yup! 13:57:30 On Win32 I went so far as to make the unwind-protect blocks SEH blocks as well, and used the system unwind, which gave us basic interoperation, but there was a fairly nasty gotcha that I didn't find out about until far too late involving stack depth for SEH frames. 13:57:59 But yeah, it's completely at right-angles to what C++ unwind typically does. 13:58:10 Yeah, I think I get what you are doing. Linked lists of unwind-blocks and catch-blocks. You pay a penalty to set that all up going down but you know you are going to use it coming back out - right? 13:59:05 It's a trade-off. We get faster unwind performance at the cost of slower setup of unwind-protect. 13:59:23 Got it. 14:00:15 if you do it with out-of-band unwind info ala dwarf or win64, you get faster setup. 14:00:17 One of the things that I've looked into in the past, and am planning on looking into again in the future, is implementing table-based unwind (either using DWARF or just a custom setup) for SBCL. 14:00:47 I wonder if I could mimic something like that if I had my code-generator break code up into more and smaller functions. 14:01:07 There are certain constraints that I accepted when I started using LLVM 14:01:21 The thing about table-based unwind, though, is that it makes ALL non-local unwind slow. 14:01:59 nyef: That's what I'm doing right now - right? 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