00:02:55 danlentz [~danlentz@c-76-117-5-156.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #sbcl 00:47:08 -!- milosn [~milosn@5ac6763e.bb.sky.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 00:49:48 milosn [~milosn@5ac6763e.bb.sky.com] has joined #sbcl 01:34:29 kanru` [~kanru@118-163-10-190.HINET-IP.hinet.net] has joined #sbcl 02:45:08 -!- danlentz [~danlentz@c-76-117-5-156.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Colloquy for iPhone - http://colloquy.mobi] 03:00:06 -!- christoph_debian [~user@2001:a60:f01c:0:42::1] has quit [*.net *.split] 03:00:06 -!- asedeno_work [asedeno@nat/google/x-oigndfkyqrialtou] has quit [*.net *.split] 03:00:06 -!- sshirokov [sshirokov@2600:3c02::f03c:91ff:fe93:e02d] has quit [*.net *.split] 03:00:06 -!- joshe [~joshe@opal.elsasser.org] has quit [*.net *.split] 03:05:33 joshe [~joshe@opal.elsasser.org] has joined #sbcl 03:05:54 asedeno_work [asedeno@nat/google/x-ldgpjdvcstmxpxmf] has joined #sbcl 04:11:48 slyrus_ [~chatzilla@adsl-99-183-243-129.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net] has joined #sbcl 04:18:10 -!- slyrus_ [~chatzilla@adsl-99-183-243-129.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:52:00 angavrilov [~angavrilo@217.71.227.190] has joined #sbcl 06:09:18 -!- antoszka [~antoszka@unaffiliated/antoszka] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:22:57 attila_lendvai [~attila_le@37.99.77.100] has joined #sbcl 06:22:58 -!- attila_lendvai [~attila_le@37.99.77.100] has quit [Changing host] 06:22:58 attila_lendvai [~attila_le@unaffiliated/attila-lendvai/x-3126965] has joined #sbcl 07:14:00 prxq [~mommer@mnhm-4d012826.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #sbcl 07:20:09 gko [~user@60-251-71-121.HINET-IP.hinet.net] has joined #sbcl 08:20:03 -!- milosn [~milosn@5ac6763e.bb.sky.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 08:21:27 milosn [~milosn@5ac6763e.bb.sky.com] has joined #sbcl 08:42:48 antoszka [~antoszka@unaffiliated/antoszka] has joined #sbcl 09:48:54 -!- gko [~user@60-251-71-121.HINET-IP.hinet.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:51:19 -!- antoszka [~antoszka@unaffiliated/antoszka] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 10:02:56 antoszka [~antoszka@unaffiliated/antoszka] has joined #sbcl 10:55:12 -!- antoszka [~antoszka@unaffiliated/antoszka] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 11:30:02 So, someone broke the build on SPARC and PPC. I'd offer to bisect, but my build hosts are slow enough that I'd love it if instead someone could just take a look and maybe accept responsibility directly :-). 11:30:05 http://paste.lisp.org/display/132400 11:30:28 *lichtblau* suspects Krystof 11:31:17 whaaa 11:31:24 -!- prxq [~mommer@mnhm-4d012826.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 11:31:24 oh, yeah, I suspect me too 11:31:25 sorry 11:31:43 will fix 11:32:22 prxq [~mommer@mnhm-4d012826.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #sbcl 11:33:57 -!- kanru` [~kanru@118-163-10-190.HINET-IP.hinet.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 11:35:34 annotation to that paste for your testing pleasure 11:36:42 I hope that works. If it doesn't, replacing (and (signed-byte ...) (not (integer 0 0))) with (or (integer -x -1) (integer 1 x-1)) for a suitable value of x will 11:36:59 but I think the totally untested patch should work 11:37:44 OK, building. 11:39:49 Also, the SPARC definition didn't get the same treatment as PPC. Is that intentional? 11:41:51 gko [~user@114-34-168-13.HINET-IP.hinet.net] has joined #sbcl 11:43:22 definition of what? 11:46:45 if you mean a deftype->def!type change, the def!type is only needed if the type is actually going to be queried at cross-compile time 11:46:55 Oh, I meant the VOP. But I see it now -- PPC was the only backend with a satisfies in there in the first place, so the others didn't need fixing. 11:46:56 or do you mean where I changed a vop to use #+sb-xc-host standard-char ...? 11:46:59 right 12:07:12 -!- attila_lendvai [~attila_le@unaffiliated/attila-lendvai/x-3126965] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 12:18:04 Posterdati [~quassel@host45-237-dynamic.6-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #sbcl 12:18:10 hi 12:18:45 Krystof: currently running tests, but I think the fact that contribs built is a good sign. Will you push or shall I? 12:42:27 + Unhandled error walk.impure.lisp 12:42:27 + Unhandled error walk.impure.lisp 12:42:27 + Invalid exit status: compiler.test.sh 12:42:27 13:01:11 the walk ones are nikodemus' fault (well, you know what I mean). Haven't looked into compiler.test.sh yet 13:01:34 antoszka [~antoszka@unaffiliated/antoszka] has joined #sbcl 13:04:55 lichtblau: please push, that patch was made from a branch where I'm trying to build from xcl, based on 1.0.31 or so 13:05:08 OK, will do. 13:05:23 no, wait 13:05:30 I think instead of (not value) it should be (values (not value) t) 13:05:56 OK, will not. 13:15:23 OK. compiler.test.sh fails since e49315b (move clearing of *FREE-FUNS* &co...) if the boinmark build logs are to be trusted. 13:16:37 Actually though, I would like to push _something_ today. Is your annotation good enough for now, so that you could add the values improvement later, or how shall we proceed? 13:18:58 push (values (not value) t) 13:19:09 I will take responsibility if it's all broken 13:19:37 maybe make sure that it builds on x86-64? (presumably that is faster than making sure that it builds on ancient-hardware) 13:58:39 for the record, I tried to convince the CMUCL guys (in person, even!) to do ARM for SBCL but they will not budge, and muttered things about how SBCL folk are doing weird things (one complaint was some Massive Renaming (TM)) 13:59:29 shame on them! they don't want to do sbcl for arm, how can they refuse? 13:59:50 what cannot be bought with money can be bought with lots of money 13:59:59 haha 14:04:22 doesn't feel to me like it matters that much. CMUCL work in that area will largely translate over to SBCL, at least in terms of VOPs, where most of the time effort will probably be spent. 14:04:35 The exception would be awkward runtime changes (say, if they do this backend as another exception, unlike the normal risc ports and unlike the unusual x86 port). 14:08:43 who is "they", BTW? 14:10:00 wbooze [~wbooze@xdsl-87-79-196-49.netcologne.de] has joined #sbcl 14:22:06 christoph_debian [~user@2001:a60:f01c:0:42::1] has joined #sbcl 14:22:28 sshirokov [sshirokov@2600:3c02::f03c:91ff:fe93:e02d] has joined #sbcl 14:23:24 More test results are in. 14:23:26 *lichtblau* cries 14:32:13 please don't cry 15:06:43 -!- wbooze [~wbooze@xdsl-87-79-196-49.netcologne.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:13:35 wbooze [~wbooze@xdsl-87-79-196-49.netcologne.de] has joined #sbcl 15:41:13 attila_lendvai [~attila_le@unaffiliated/attila-lendvai/x-3126965] has joined #sbcl 15:43:06 lichtblau, the idea so far is to model ARM on IBM RT and PowerPC 15:46:17 who is "they" is a good question 15:47:25 a guy named carl, rtoym, me 15:49:02 carl and rtoym live in close enough proximity to collaborate locally, and in a month or so, i will too 15:49:32 carl shapiro, presumably 15:49:56 yeah 15:50:17 but what lichtblau says is true: unless you do something wacky with the runtime, porting backends from cmucl is easy 15:50:27 yeah 15:51:07 carl and ray have lived and breathed cmucl for so long that they're comfortable with the totally crazy build "system" 15:51:22 haha, yeah, I can't get used to it. :( 15:51:28 SBCL has spoiled me 15:52:51 aha, so RT has the same number (16) of usable registers as ARM. That's a good model indeed to look at then. 15:53:24 do you have code available already? are you starting from nyef's stuff? 15:53:56 no code available, everyone is still planning everything. There's probably going to be a thanksgiving-ish meeting to discuss register allocation and whatever 15:54:01 I wouldn't expect Carl to agree to start from already-existing sbcl work, but maybe he's mellowed in the last decade 15:54:56 he had some not so nice things to say about some recent commits in SBCL. Not sure which ones. All I heard was "they had the right idea, but terrible execution" or something. :) 15:55:20 not mellowed, then 15:55:26 haha 15:56:47 So, let's relax, do a "git remote add cmucl" in our SBCL trees, and silently cherry-pick from cmucl/master every week. They even have a src/ directory now. Solve a few merge conflicts every now and then -- bang, ARM port scheduled to be finished one day after CMUCL. 15:57:10 oh, probably lichtblau's work on merging windows support 15:57:17 he did a cmucl/windows port a while ago 15:58:12 haha, "they even have a src directory now" 15:59:13 wasn't meant to be funny; the move to src/ is just their very own version of the "whitespace canonicalization" commit that pops up in git logs all over the place. 15:59:37 i know it wasn't meant to be, but it still is 16:02:58 So maybe any future "SBCL13" (or so) meetup ought to be renamed "Spice Lisp 30" and held somewhere near the CMUCL guys, so that we can have those discussions in real life. 16:03:32 lichtblau, well, they're all in the SF bay area 16:04:04 very well, we'll sleep on antifuchs' couch then 16:07:37 -!- jdz [~jdz@85.254.212.248] has quit [Quit: Byebye.] 16:14:19 -!- kanru [~kanru@kanru-1-pt.tunnel.tserv15.lax1.ipv6.he.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 16:14:36 kanru [~kanru@kanru-1-pt.tunnel.tserv15.lax1.ipv6.he.net] has joined #sbcl 16:16:02 ! 16:25:22 -!- kanru [~kanru@kanru-1-pt.tunnel.tserv15.lax1.ipv6.he.net] has quit [Quit: ZNC - http://znc.sourceforge.net] 16:28:06 kanru [~kanru@kanru-1-pt.tunnel.tserv15.lax1.ipv6.he.net] has joined #sbcl 16:37:30 invest in lots of couches, that's my advice 16:38:13 *antifuchs* prepares to long the dutch couch bulb market 17:01:08 -!- wbooze [~wbooze@xdsl-87-79-196-49.netcologne.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 17:20:12 -!- kanru [~kanru@kanru-1-pt.tunnel.tserv15.lax1.ipv6.he.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 17:22:07 kanru [~kanru@kanru-1-pt.tunnel.tserv15.lax1.ipv6.he.net] has joined #sbcl 17:30:29 wbooze [~wbooze@xdsl-78-35-156-46.netcologne.de] has joined #sbcl 17:33:35 -!- gko [~user@114-34-168-13.HINET-IP.hinet.net] has quit [Quit: ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)] 18:17:23 -!- wbooze [~wbooze@xdsl-78-35-156-46.netcologne.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:24:57 wbooze [~wbooze@xdsl-78-35-156-46.netcologne.de] has joined #sbcl 18:42:28 Fare [fare@nat/google/x-tcnyjrrywgtxjhqg] has joined #sbcl 18:49:22 -!- Vivitron [~Vivitron@pool-98-110-213-33.bstnma.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 18:50:25 edgar-rft [~GOD@HSI-KBW-078-043-123-191.hsi4.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de] has joined #sbcl 19:18:49 -!- attila_lendvai [~attila_le@unaffiliated/attila-lendvai/x-3126965] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 19:18:59 attila_lendvai [~attila_le@37.99.86.13] has joined #sbcl 19:19:00 -!- attila_lendvai [~attila_le@37.99.86.13] has quit [Changing host] 19:19:00 attila_lendvai [~attila_le@unaffiliated/attila-lendvai/x-3126965] has joined #sbcl 19:31:48 homie [~homie@xdsl-78-35-156-46.netcologne.de] has joined #sbcl 19:32:33 cmm- [~cmm@bzq-79-183-213-148.red.bezeqint.net] has joined #sbcl 19:34:54 -!- cmm [~cmm@bzq-79-181-242-187.red.bezeqint.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 19:40:24 -!- edgar-rft [~GOD@HSI-KBW-078-043-123-191.hsi4.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de] has quit [Quit: lifeform experiment terminated] 19:43:32 -!- homie [~homie@xdsl-78-35-156-46.netcologne.de] has quit [Quit: Client Quit] 19:54:54 -!- angavrilov [~angavrilo@217.71.227.190] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:08:14 -!- attila_lendvai [~attila_le@unaffiliated/attila-lendvai/x-3126965] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20:09:08 attila_lendvai [~attila_le@37.99.86.13] has joined #sbcl 20:09:09 -!- attila_lendvai [~attila_le@37.99.86.13] has quit [Changing host] 20:09:09 attila_lendvai [~attila_le@unaffiliated/attila-lendvai/x-3126965] has joined #sbcl 20:11:40 sdemarre [~serge@91.176.154.9] has joined #sbcl 20:36:19 exciting times on sbcl-commit 20:41:03 glad you like it. (That's it from me for the next 2-3 weeks though.) 20:42:34 well, I'll probably/hopefully find time to fix slime on win32/sb-thread shortly before the next freeze. 21:06:53 -!- attila_lendvai [~attila_le@unaffiliated/attila-lendvai/x-3126965] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 21:10:21 nikodemus [~nikodemus@cs27127210.pp.htv.fi] has joined #sbcl 21:10:21 -!- ChanServ has set mode +o nikodemus 21:12:05 lichtblau: again, much kudos for merge work! 21:13:41 leuler [~user@p548FB1DB.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #sbcl 21:14:48 -!- sdemarre [~serge@91.176.154.9] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 21:32:28 lichtblau: solid batch of commits, thanks. 21:34:33 huh, why does asdf suddenly insist on translating pathnames during my contrib build? 21:35:11 i have a test failure that appears to be due to sb-simple-streams *test-path* pointing under ~/.cache/common-lisp 21:35:43 ...which another build made go away 21:35:48 wierdness 21:54:49 -!- nikodemus [~nikodemus@cs27127210.pp.htv.fi] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 22:14:17 danlentz [~danlentz@c-76-117-5-156.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #sbcl 22:25:06 -!- leuler [~user@p548FB1DB.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: ERC Version 5.1.2 $Revision: 1.796.2.6 $ (IRC client for Emacs)] 22:49:48 -!- danlentz [~danlentz@c-76-117-5-156.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Colloquy for iPhone - http://colloquy.mobi] 22:56:59 -!- Fare [fare@nat/google/x-tcnyjrrywgtxjhqg] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 23:39:40 -!- prxq [~mommer@mnhm-4d012826.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]