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One working xcl build, and one partial explanation of clisp/sbcl differences in fasls 13:28:36 -!- stassats [~stassats@wikipedia/stassats] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:28:52 stassats [~stassats@wikipedia/stassats] has joined #sbcl 13:31:00 -!- LiamH [~healy@129-2-129-145.wireless.umd.edu] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 13:48:10 homie`` [~levgue@xdsl-84-44-210-230.netcologne.de] has joined #sbcl 13:48:53 -!- wbooze [~wbooze@xdsl-78-35-187-196.netcologne.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 13:50:51 -!- homie` [~levgue@xdsl-78-35-187-196.netcologne.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 14:06:46 what's the partial explanation? 14:07:30 I think I have the real explanation 14:08:57 the observed difference was that the fasl from sbcl-on-clisp had a shorter code length for a few functions than from sbcl-on-sbcl 14:09:21 the boiled-down-to-the-vop difference was that clisp used fast-if-> whereas sbcl used fast-if->-c 14:10:14 and the actual true cause is the presence of ``(:constant ,#'(lambda (x) (typep x ',(second ...))) ...) in constructing template structures from (:constant fixnum) 14:10:24 (should be sb!xc:typep, except that that causes a build failure) 14:10:38 reading fasls in emacs is... 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