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12:15:25 please do 12:35:26 done: https://bugs.launchpad.net/sbcl/+bug/1001235 12:35:34 feel free to ask more questions if the bug report is incomplete :) 12:37:55 -!- ivan`` [~ivan@unaffiliated/ivan/x-000001] has quit [Quit: ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)] 12:40:17 ivan`` [~ivan@unaffiliated/ivan/x-000001] has joined #sbcl 12:59:24 -!- tcr [~tcr@178-83-229-138.dynamic.hispeed.ch] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 12:59:29 -!- christoph_debian [~user@oteiza.siccegge.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:11:42 LiamH [~none@pdp8.nrl.navy.mil] has joined #sbcl 13:43:28 -!- jdz [~jdz@193.206.22.97] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 13:46:46 -!- slyrus [~chatzilla@12.132.197.125] has quit [*.net *.split] 13:46:46 -!- easye [~user@213.33.70.157] has quit [*.net *.split] 13:47:48 slyrus [~chatzilla@12.132.197.125] has joined #sbcl 13:47:48 easye [~user@213.33.70.157] has joined #sbcl 14:12:59 Vivitron [~Vivitron@pool-98-110-213-33.bstnma.fios.verizon.net] has joined #sbcl 14:13:04 stassats [~stassats@wikipedia/stassats] has joined #sbcl 14:21:33 stassats` [~stassats@wikipedia/stassats] has joined #sbcl 14:26:02 -!- stassats` [~stassats@wikipedia/stassats] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 14:33:02 -!- nyef_ is now known as nyef 15:16:00 -!- edgar-rft [~user@HSI-KBW-078-043-123-191.hsi4.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de] has quit [*.net *.split] 15:16:21 edgar-rft [~user@HSI-KBW-078-043-123-191.hsi4.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de] has joined #sbcl 15:25:11 Quadrescence [~quad@unaffiliated/quadrescence] has joined #sbcl 15:38:03 jdz [~jdz@host229-71-dynamic.54-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #sbcl 15:41:15 attila_lendvai [~attila_le@188-143-65-33.pool.digikabel.hu] has joined #sbcl 15:41:16 -!- attila_lendvai [~attila_le@188-143-65-33.pool.digikabel.hu] has quit [Changing host] 15:41:16 attila_lendvai [~attila_le@unaffiliated/attila-lendvai/x-3126965] has joined #sbcl 15:59:21 -!- stassats [~stassats@wikipedia/stassats] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 16:00:16 -!- huangjs [~huangjs@190.8.100.83] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 16:15:49 -!- LiamH [~none@pdp8.nrl.navy.mil] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 16:17:26 is there any helpful document on how to debug sbcl? the one i just built on dragonfly drops into ldb after a memory corruption, any common causes for that? 16:18:21 Memory corruption is nasty, unfortunately. 16:20:52 If you can narrow it down to something that you can disable and it stops happening, that at least gives you an area to focus on, but about the only thing you can do is desk-check things, or occasionally put together small test cases to show that some things are okay or not okay. 16:22:13 If it happens during cold-init, then you can do things like building with :SB-SHOW to get more debugging output. 16:22:36 No real documentation on this stuff, as far as I know. 16:25:23 right 16:26:52 my guess is that the os_context structure gets messed up somewhere 16:26:58 but i'll see 16:27:49 Another angle is to... wait. os_context? Check to see if they're in the stack space, or if they're somewhere else. 16:28:23 If they're somewhere else, you'll probably want to look at the stuff in gencgc for supporting darwin contexts, which are also typically somewhere else and thus need scavenging separately. 16:33:15 you could try to build my software write barrier branch is mprotect is suspect, but that's a long shot 16:35:00 stassats` [~stassats@wikipedia/stassats] has joined #sbcl 16:46:38 huangjs [~huangjs@200.54.109.17] has joined #sbcl 17:14:51 tyson1 [~Ian@184-94-21-130.dedicated.allstream.net] has joined #sbcl 17:22:36 -!- tyson1 [~Ian@184-94-21-130.dedicated.allstream.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 17:52:20 tyson1 [~Ian@184-94-21-130.dedicated.allstream.net] has joined #sbcl 17:53:04 -!- tyson1 [~Ian@184-94-21-130.dedicated.allstream.net] has left #sbcl 18:02:02 gabnet [~gabnet@ACaen-257-1-31-234.w86-220.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #sbcl 18:09:01 Fare [~Fare@216.239.55.82] has joined #sbcl 18:11:40 -!- attila_lendvai [~attila_le@unaffiliated/attila-lendvai/x-3126965] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 18:21:37 attila_lendvai [~attila_le@188-143-65-33.pool.digikabel.hu] has joined #sbcl 18:21:37 -!- attila_lendvai [~attila_le@188-143-65-33.pool.digikabel.hu] has quit [Changing host] 18:21:37 attila_lendvai [~attila_le@unaffiliated/attila-lendvai/x-3126965] has joined #sbcl 18:43:56 antgreen [user@nat/redhat/x-wpkzpciwascwbbhf] has joined #sbcl 18:46:31 LiamH [~none@pdp8.nrl.navy.mil] has joined #sbcl 18:50:46 nikodemus [~nikodemus@37-219-130-105.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined #sbcl 18:50:46 -!- ChanServ has set mode +o nikodemus 18:51:24 http://paste.lisp.org/display/129510 18:52:09 so, anytime you tweak the error message it should be updated? 18:53:22 yeah, i'm trying to decide which bits are essential, and just checking for those 18:53:26 Hrm. That's reasonably clever. 18:53:47 but i was pretty tickled by how driving the debuger via *debug-io* just worked 18:56:49 especially since my first thought was 'aargh. how the hell am i supposed to test a debugger command?!" :) 19:03:17 wasn't there a disassembly bug that was related to source paths being messed up? 19:04:27 nikodemus: like this? WARNING: bogus form-number in form! The source file has probably been changed too much to cope with. 19:05:31 and does disassemble ever annotate code properly? 19:05:37 i've never seen anything remotely useful 19:06:31 i often see ;;; [5] NIL 19:07:58 If you're planning on doing things to the disassembler, don't forget my branch of however-long-ago-now that had a few improvements for x86oids but still needed some cleanup. 19:11:23 stassats`: that's it 19:11:29 how do i trigger that? 19:11:40 i got it by doing C-M-x in slime 19:11:44 which is simply EVAL 19:11:51 Kryztof [~user@81.174.155.115] has joined #sbcl 19:11:51 -!- ChanServ has set mode +o Kryztof 19:12:03 i'm not working on the disassembler, but i have eval giving proper source paths now 19:12:17 so i figured that might work now as well 19:13:31 Hey, can we get character-offset or byte-offset plus filename source paths as an option? 19:15:12 from this stuff? no, sorry 19:15:46 all real changes are in eval.lisp and target-main.lisp 19:15:53 but it does fix that disassembler bug :) 19:16:12 Yeah, not necessarily from this stuff, but something for this Summer? 19:16:31 "This Summer, only for SBCL..." 19:17:29 hah 19:18:06 i'm not opposed to having them -- but i'm not promising to spend time on that 19:18:17 unless you agree to an equitable trade of hacking time :) 19:18:35 That's fair. And if I can scare up some hacking time, I might look into it myself. 19:19:46 Although my current highest-priority SBCL-hacking project is actually trying to set up a Linux 2.6.x Debian MIPS environment to see if I can get SBCL to build there. 19:25:44 i approve 19:26:29 if you get that working, we should make it a 1.1 release and dedicate it to thiemo's memory 19:26:50 as in "better late than never 19:26:53 " 19:27:10 nikodemus: i agree 19:27:32 I'm thinking GENGC and threads, myself. And I've got a Sun Blade 150 (Ultrasparc II of some stripe) waiting for some TLC... 19:37:06 would be cool to get win32 stuff merged 19:45:07 stassats`: :-( 19:46:08 so, i take it's not progressing well 19:47:57 I'm sure it would be progressing well if it were... progressing 19:49:14 -!- Fare [~Fare@216.239.55.82] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 19:56:53 i would really like to see /something/ of it merged -- just to show progress 19:57:17 but i haven't been to quick about fixing all the longs i promised to get rid of either... 19:57:24 too quick, even 20:08:55 -!- edgar-rft [~user@HSI-KBW-078-043-123-191.hsi4.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de] has quit [Quit: ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)] 20:10:59 -!- angavrilov [~angavrilo@217.71.227.190] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 20:12:03 -!- gabnet [~gabnet@ACaen-257-1-31-234.w86-220.abo.wanadoo.fr] has left #sbcl 20:16:49 slyrus: you're using clojure, right? 20:17:02 using is too strong of a word 20:17:07 hah 20:17:21 did you see my atomic-update for sbcl? akin to swap! -- nicer than writing those update loops explicitly 20:17:23 I have experimented with it 20:17:34 oh? nice 20:17:57 see wip-after-release branch on my github tree 20:18:22 OK 20:18:23 thanks 20:18:31 --> night! 20:18:33 -!- nikodemus [~nikodemus@37-219-130-105.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:19:25 gabnet [~gabnet@ACaen-257-1-31-234.w86-220.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #sbcl 20:24:14 -!- attila_lendvai [~attila_le@unaffiliated/attila-lendvai/x-3126965] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 20:25:52 Fare [~Fare@216.239.55.82] has joined #sbcl 20:37:27 tyson1 [~Ian@bas1-toronto06-1096637508.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #sbcl 20:45:11 -!- tyson1 [~Ian@bas1-toronto06-1096637508.dsl.bell.ca] has left #sbcl 20:45:53 tyson1 [~Ian@bas1-toronto06-1096637508.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #sbcl 20:45:56 -!- tyson1 [~Ian@bas1-toronto06-1096637508.dsl.bell.ca] has left #sbcl 20:48:06 -!- antgreen [user@nat/redhat/x-wpkzpciwascwbbhf] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:56:28 attila_lendvai [~attila_le@unaffiliated/attila-lendvai/x-3126965] has joined #sbcl 21:00:45 christoph_debian [~user@oteiza.siccegge.de] has joined #sbcl 21:16:18 -!- Posterdati [~tapioca@host13-229-dynamic.17-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 21:27:52 Posterdati [~tapioca@host85-230-dynamic.17-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #sbcl 21:37:01 -!- prxq [~mommer@mnhm-4d013076.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:40:31 -!- slyrus [~chatzilla@12.132.197.125] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 21:49:05 -!- LiamH [~none@pdp8.nrl.navy.mil] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 21:52:05 -!- huangjs [~huangjs@200.54.109.17] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 22:14:47 -!- TimKack [~user@46.194.175.26] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:28:09 -!- Fare [~Fare@216.239.55.82] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 22:29:22 -!- jdz [~jdz@host229-71-dynamic.54-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Quit: Byebye.] 22:41:10 -!- sdemarre [~serge@91.176.163.235] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 22:51:46 huangjs [~huangjs@200.54.109.17] has joined #sbcl 22:56:23 homie [~levgue@xdsl-87-79-192-142.netcologne.de] has joined #sbcl 23:21:58 -!- gabnet [~gabnet@ACaen-257-1-31-234.w86-220.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Quit: Quitte] 23:26:03 edgar-rft [~user@HSI-KBW-078-043-123-191.hsi4.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de] has joined #sbcl 23:33:21 -!- edgar-rft [~user@HSI-KBW-078-043-123-191.hsi4.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de] has quit [Quit: ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)] 23:34:08 edgar-rft [~user@HSI-KBW-078-043-123-191.hsi4.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de] has joined #sbcl 23:45:26 -!- edgar-rft [~user@HSI-KBW-078-043-123-191.hsi4.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:46:52 -!- huangjs [~huangjs@200.54.109.17] has quit [Quit: Leaving]