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There's always CLC at the end of functions. 20:32:36 non-single-value return 20:33:36 I really like CCL's approach here: the return address encodes whether the receiver is a multiple-value form or not. 20:33:46 yea, that's pretty spiffy. 20:34:36 much smarter than sbcl's way of denoting > 1 value, only for the receiver to ignore it all. 20:35:00 antgreen [user@nat/redhat/x-hpwhirwoyyfrlmhp] has joined #sbcl 20:36:44 pkhuong, when will you rewrite SBCL to do this more neatly 20:37:14 in ~40 years, as a retiree. 20:38:38 pkhuong, what if you get wealthy and retire in a year 20:39:22 *redline6561* throws money in pkhuong's general direction :) 20:39:48 unless it's a lot of money, I'll still want to finish this ******* PhD first. 20:40:22 stassats [~stassats@wikipedia/stassats] has joined #sbcl 20:43:21 a new CL with the potential to be on the same level as SBCL/CMUCL is a huge undertaking. Like 3-4 full time years, even if we reuse most of the standard library. 20:47:15 the only CL with similar characteristics to emerge recently is XCL 20:48:29 and I'm not sure I see the value either. 20:48:56 either, as in? 20:49:37 -!- antgreen [user@nat/redhat/x-hpwhirwoyyfrlmhp] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 20:50:00 "it's a lot of (too much) work, and I don't see the value [of doing that work]" 20:50:56 that's what i was trying to say, that no one seems to undertake such thing, all other CLs date back into 80s 20:51:27 (another one is ABCL, which is actually maintained, albeit it's not really fast) 20:52:59 If beach's project to create a portable standard lib takes off, that might change the field a bit. Seems he's disappeared though. 20:53:02 and the JVM thing *is* interesting. 20:53:02 \busy 20:54:44 Between universities, likely. 20:55:22 still, standard library is only a small portion of an implementation 20:55:24 Bordeaux bounced an email I sent him, a couple weeks ago. 20:56:59 Oh, didn't realize he wasn't at Bordeaux anymore. 20:57:34 stassats: True but it would be better than nothing. 21:01:58 that, and his page at labri is 403ing 21:11:49 -!- angavrilov [~angavrilo@217.71.235.212] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 21:17:41 ddp [~ddp@rrcs-24-43-232-194.west.biz.rr.com] has joined #sbcl 21:39:06 sdemarre [~serge@91.176.78.18] has joined #sbcl 21:53:49 -!- ddp [~ddp@rrcs-24-43-232-194.west.biz.rr.com] has quit [Quit: ddp] 22:02:52 -!- amagnus [~alice@alice.ipq.co] has quit [Quit: amagnus] 22:25:34 tsuru`` [~charlie@adsl-74-179-17-194.bna.bellsouth.net] has joined #sbcl 22:27:46 -!- tsuru` [~charlie@adsl-74-179-28-50.bna.bellsouth.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 22:37:18 -!- sdemarre [~serge@91.176.78.18] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 22:40:36 -!- attila_lendvai [~attila_le@unaffiliated/attila-lendvai/x-3126965] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 23:02:32 -!- milanj [~milanj_@178-223-179-77.dynamic.isp.telekom.rs] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:08:46 -!- psilord [~psilord@mpls.sift.info] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 23:09:06 -!- homie [~levgue@xdsl-78-35-172-106.netcologne.de] has quit [*.net *.split] 23:10:09 homie [~levgue@xdsl-78-35-172-106.netcologne.de] has joined #sbcl 23:23:17 is there select-based IO in sbcl? 23:23:40 there's serve-event 23:24:55 looks applicable, thanks