00:00:41 -!- bsbutler_ack is now known as redline6561 02:10:51 -!- antifuchs [~foobar@care.boinkor.net] has quit [Quit: ZNC - http://znc.sourceforge.net] 14:20:48 ccl-logbot [~ccl-logbo@setf.clozure.com] has joined #sbcl 14:20:48 14:20:48 -!- names: ccl-logbot drl dsp_ antifuchs @Kryztof esden attila_lendvai sdemarre jsnell_ antoszka jfletcher loke borkman jiacobucci hlavaty lichtblau antgreen pchrist whoops redline6561 scymtym |3b| joshe pkhuong blumbri daimrod christop` cmm cow-orke1 luis @Xof fe[nl]ix flip214 deepfire MikeSeth kanru foom sshirokov Iceland_jack rootzlevel spacebat 14:51:25 -!- Kryztof [~user@158.223.59.95] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 15:06:27 -!- drl [~lat@110.139.230.255] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 15:18:52 haven't done much with it yet, but so far it seemed usable 15:19:00 (I mostly just updated it a little for current LLVM, changed it so that LLVM-compiled functions "survive" core file dumping in the sense of being reinstalled on startup; told DISASSEMBLE to show both LLVM assembly and native instructions.) 15:19:26 drl [~lat@110.139.230.255] has joined #sbcl 15:25:41 Qworkescence [~quad@unaffiliated/quadrescence] has joined #sbcl 15:40:28 lichtblau: hey, neat. If you're working on that, do you want to take over the repo? 15:46:13 foom: thanks for the offer! :-) I'm not going to seriously work on LLVM before next year at least; but I'll get back to you then. 15:47:44 Somewhat related with my previous problem---now with slime. # is a fasl file compiled with SBCL 1.0.50.31-20db73f, and can't be loaded into SBCL 1.0.51. 15:48:07 lichtblau: How's the W32 integration going? Do you think it'll be delayed some by nikodemus' threading overhaul? 15:48:08 That is the wrong path. 15:48:53 My experiments so far were only to convince myself that SBCL on LLVM is possible, and that I have an idea how to do it. For knowledgeTools, we don't have an LLVM port as a priority at all _at the moment_. But I wanted to check on it, because I think that ARM support is needed eventually, and it might make more sense to work on LLVM instead. 15:48:53 drl: You're an archer right? And running SBCL compiled from git in addition to the arch package? 15:49:28 redline6561: I didn't have time to work on windows threading this month, but hope to get back on it next month. Nikodemus' work is pretty much unrelated. 15:49:39 redline6561, yes. 15:49:46 lichtblau: Cool. Thanks. 15:50:30 drl: When I did that I blew away the old cached files in ~/.cache/common-lisp/ 15:50:42 redline6561: The current plan (if nothing else interferes) is to finally commit the POSIX half of SB-SAFEPOINT next month. 15:51:12 Very cool. :) 15:51:45 pkhuong: How much do you want to implement the mapping collector? ;) 15:51:56 redline6561, "blew away"? you mean on purpose deleted them? 15:52:10 drl: Yes. 15:52:31 (I'm -probably- going to rehaul windows I/O before threads are going in, because INTERRUPT-THREAD requires I/O changes, and I don't want to push both sets of changes at the same time.) 15:59:15 redline6561, I still have the problem. If I load slime with quicklisp should I delete the .slime file? 15:59:53 I mean .slime folder. 16:00:38 drl: Why don't we move this conversation to #lisp? 16:01:01 redline6561, ok. 16:27:01 -!- whoops [u549@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-lwbmggocdvdfovki] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:50:11 whoops [u549@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-rcubddeprsdyubok] has joined #sbcl 17:06:25 -!- attila_lendvai [~attila_le@unaffiliated/attila-lendvai/x-3126965] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 17:57:12 attila_lendvai [~attila_le@unaffiliated/attila-lendvai/x-3126965] has joined #sbcl 17:59:50 lichtblau: well, but if you made it work with new LLVM versions, that's something at least 17:59:58 lichtblau: and should get pushed into the repo to give it some sign of life. :) 18:14:20 homie [~levgue@xdsl-78-35-176-25.netcologne.de] has joined #sbcl 18:21:16 -!- attila_lendvai [~attila_le@unaffiliated/attila-lendvai/x-3126965] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:52:25 redline6561: mapping collector? 18:52:41 you mean the mostly concurrent thing? 18:55:33 pkhuong: Yeah, the one you posted on systems reddit. 18:56:28 oh, that. 18:56:31 I don't know 18:56:46 I wish the bottleneck on gencgc was on that sort of thing. 19:02:59 What is the bottleneck currently? Or, if you prefer, if you were going to raise 5-10k to work on the GC what would you be most interested in doing with it? 19:04:46 switch to mark/sweep for all but the nursery, make the mark/sweep pass mostly concurrent (likely with VM tricks). 19:05:16 allocate code and unboxed objects separately from mutable boxed values. 19:05:21 *lichtblau* would have said exactly the same thing, except without VM tricks :-) 19:06:35 I'd probably dumb down the system to only have 2 generations as well. 19:06:51 also, not for 5-10k 19:07:07 the main obstable for me is that I have phd deadlines. 19:09:01 I had a feeling. :) 19:25:15 attila_lendvai [~attila_le@apn-94-44-51-29.vodafone.hu] has joined #sbcl 19:25:15 -!- attila_lendvai [~attila_le@apn-94-44-51-29.vodafone.hu] has quit [Changing host] 19:25:15 attila_lendvai [~attila_le@unaffiliated/attila-lendvai/x-3126965] has joined #sbcl 19:30:59 -!- attila_lendvai [~attila_le@unaffiliated/attila-lendvai/x-3126965] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 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Do you want to retain compatibility with old versions of LLVM that still need ModuleProviders? My changes currently include incompatible simplifications in that regard. 21:32:18 no, I don't care about old versions 21:32:26 -!- gabnet [~gabnet@249.195.197.77.rev.sfr.net] has quit [Quit: Quitte] 21:32:34 lichtblau: 2.9 or HEAD? 21:32:58 Next time I actually start hacking on it, I'll surely use whatever is currently HEAD or later. :) 21:37:51 -!- homie [~levgue@xdsl-78-35-176-25.netcologne.de] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 21:38:44 homie` [~levgue@xdsl-78-35-158-132.netcologne.de] has joined #sbcl 21:40:15 pkhuong: hmm, I'm running a 3.0ish build, but I agree that support for 2.9 would be nice; I'll double-check whether my code works there. 21:58:00 -!- homie` [~levgue@xdsl-78-35-158-132.netcologne.de] has quit [Quit: ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)] 21:58:13 -!- sdemarre [~serge@91.176.111.33] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 22:01:55 slyrus [~chatzilla@173-228-44-88.dsl.static.sonic.net] has joined #sbcl 22:03:22 -!- attila_lendvai [~attila_le@unaffiliated/attila-lendvai/x-3126965] has left #sbcl 22:20:18 -!- slyrus [~chatzilla@173-228-44-88.dsl.static.sonic.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 22:42:28 -!- Kryztof [~user@81.174.155.115] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 22:43:55 -!- whoops [u549@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-dmgwskekrzrirqnr] has quit [Quit: Updating details, brb] 22:44:05 whoops [u549@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-oqmkgofzlzyefheu] has joined #sbcl 22:51:00 -!- Qworkescence [~quad@unaffiliated/quadrescence] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:14:48 Quadrescence [~quadbook@71-212-165-176.hlrn.qwest.net] has joined #sbcl 23:14:52 -!- Quadrescence [~quadbook@71-212-165-176.hlrn.qwest.net] has quit [Changing host] 23:14:52 Quadrescence [~quadbook@unaffiliated/quadrescence] has joined #sbcl 23:42:17 lichtblau: seems to me 3.0 will be out soonish