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It's midnight? How'd it get to be midnight?!? 05:09:37 nyef: that's what I wrote first! (-: 05:10:18 A good start, but please update it to match the system you actually built, and not the system that you thought you were going to build. :-P 05:10:33 well, I built the system so that it matches the documentation (-: 05:10:45 but yeah, I'll match both up (: 05:23:00 attila_lendvai [~attila_le@adsl-89-132-54-21.monradsl.monornet.hu] has joined #sbcl 05:31:13 -!- nyef [~nyef@pool-71-161-64-51.cncdnh.east.myfairpoint.net] has quit [Quit: G'night all.] 05:33:33 alright! release.sh generates a nice upload-able release. I'm happy so far (: 05:33:38 will write up and post tomorrow 06:10:31 sixdej [~sixdej@cpe-67-250-52-223.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #sbcl 06:10:36 -!- sixdej [~sixdej@cpe-67-250-52-223.nyc.res.rr.com] has left #sbcl 06:16:59 go antifuchs! 06:17:44 looks really good so far. 06:37:36 NihilistDandy [~ND@c-75-69-129-101.hsd1.nh.comcast.net] has joined #sbcl 06:42:30 -!- scymtym [~user@2001:638:504:2093:21a:a0ff:fe34:2d7d] has left #sbcl 06:56:27 Krystof [~csr21@217-162-131-235.dynamic.hispeed.ch] has joined #sbcl 06:56:27 -!- ChanServ has set mode +o Krystof 07:16:24 flip214 [~marek@2001:858:107:1:baac:6fff:fe6b:9183] has joined #sbcl 07:16:24 -!- flip214 [~marek@2001:858:107:1:baac:6fff:fe6b:9183] has quit [Changing host] 07:16:24 flip214 [~marek@unaffiliated/flip214] has joined #sbcl 07:43:43 -!- attila_lendvai [~attila_le@adsl-89-132-54-21.monradsl.monornet.hu] has left #sbcl 08:07:47 tcr1 [~tcr@217-162-131-235.dynamic.hispeed.ch] has joined #sbcl 08:16:50 -!- Krystof [~csr21@217-162-131-235.dynamic.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 08:30:54 mega1 [~user@catv4E5CABA2.pool.t-online.hu] has joined #sbcl 08:38:54 -!- tcr1 [~tcr@217-162-131-235.dynamic.hispeed.ch] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 08:46:12 tcr1 [~tcr@217-162-131-235.dynamic.hispeed.ch] has joined #sbcl 09:36:08 homie` [~levgue@xdsl-78-35-156-60.netcologne.de] has joined #sbcl 09:37:53 -!- homie [~levgue@xdsl-78-35-169-2.netcologne.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 10:09:36 -!- deepfire [~deepfire@80.92.100.69] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 10:11:25 deepfire [~deepfire@80.92.100.69] has joined #sbcl 10:14:43 nikodemus [~nikodemus@cs181199216.pp.htv.fi] has joined #sbcl 10:14:43 -!- ChanServ has set mode +o nikodemus 10:33:44 -!- NihilistDandy [~ND@c-75-69-129-101.hsd1.nh.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Sleep] 10:52:13 -!- nikodemus [~nikodemus@cs181199216.pp.htv.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 11:05:03 hargettp [~hargettp@pool-71-174-135-110.bstnma.east.verizon.net] has joined #sbcl 11:31:49 nikodemus [~nikodemus@cs181058025.pp.htv.fi] has joined #sbcl 11:31:49 -!- ChanServ has set mode +o nikodemus 11:52:35 -!- hargettp [~hargettp@pool-71-174-135-110.bstnma.east.verizon.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 12:02:25 hargettp [~hargettp@pool-71-174-135-110.bstnma.east.verizon.net] has joined #sbcl 12:14:11 antgreen [~user@CPE00222d6c4710-CM00222d6c470d.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #sbcl 12:54:57 -!- hargettp [~hargettp@pool-71-174-135-110.bstnma.east.verizon.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 13:16:27 attila_lendvai [~attila_le@apn-94-44-97-244.vodafone.hu] has joined #sbcl 13:25:06 nyef [~nyef@pool-71-161-64-51.cncdnh.east.myfairpoint.net] has joined #sbcl 13:25:20 G'morning all. 13:27:11 kaek [~b@c-70cae253.97-16-64736c12.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #sbcl 13:29:42 stassats [~stassats@wikipedia/stassats] has joined #sbcl 13:49:56 -!- fe[nl]ix [~lacedaemo@pdpc/supporter/professional/fenlix] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 14:23:34 fe[nl]ix [~lacedaemo@pdpc/supporter/professional/fenlix] has joined #sbcl 14:24:50 Is .45 broken, or is it safe to install? 14:25:41 Broken. 14:26:27 Pull at least 1.0.45.5, or pre-1.0.44.15. 14:27:13 I'll just keep whatever I have installed for now, I suppose. Is SF.net where you guys commit to? 14:27:20 It... was. 14:27:31 (not sure if it's still broken) 14:28:33 nyef: Where can I pull from now? 14:29:14 The git mirror on boinkor? 14:29:31 hargettp [~hargettp@dhcp-162.mirrorimage.net] has joined #sbcl 14:30:07 alright, ~found it~ 14:37:41 -!- attila_lendvai [~attila_le@apn-94-44-97-244.vodafone.hu] has left #sbcl 14:37:51 -!- fe[nl]ix [~lacedaemo@pdpc/supporter/professional/fenlix] has quit [Quit: Valete!] 14:39:53 fe[nl]ix [~lacedaemo@pdpc/supporter/professional/fenlix] has joined #sbcl 14:44:11 -!- flip214 [~marek@unaffiliated/flip214] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:54:26 -!- redline6561 [~user@c-66-56-55-169.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:56:19 I wonder if instead of calling SB-KERNEL:%COERCE-CALLABLE-TO-FUN directly, the compiler should rather emit (if (functionp thing) thing (coerce....)) 14:57:07 It's the kind of thing a JIT would come in handy for I guess :-) 14:58:01 dlowe [~dlowe@ita4fw1.itasoftware.com] has joined #sbcl 14:59:30 Which of you guys are the gurus of the static analysis and type inference? 15:01:49 Krystof probably understands type inference the best. it depends on what you want to know 15:03:12 tcr1: iirc it depends on if the thing typically is a function or a function name 15:03:32 I'd guess it typically is 15:03:53 symbol is for development where I don't care that much performance anyway 15:04:49 or for testcases 15:05:19 I don't have sbcl sources; does it boil down to a full function call? 15:05:29 then that's probably where the costs come in anyway 15:30:20 tcr2 [~tcr@217-162-131-235.dynamic.hispeed.ch] has joined #sbcl 15:30:26 -!- tcr1 [~tcr@217-162-131-235.dynamic.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:41:12 -!- antgreen [~user@CPE00222d6c4710-CM00222d6c470d.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:10:35 Krystof [~csr21@csrhodes.plus.com] has joined #sbcl 17:10:35 -!- ChanServ has set mode +o Krystof 17:38:11 redline6561 [~user@gate-20.spsu.edu] has joined #sbcl 17:44:38 attila_lendvai [~attila_le@adsl-89-132-54-21.monradsl.monornet.hu] has joined #sbcl 18:05:00 -!- nikodemus [~nikodemus@cs181058025.pp.htv.fi] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 18:07:52 pkhuong_ [~pkhuong@modemcable238.100-176-173.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #sbcl 18:52:08 antgreen [~user@nat/redhat/x-fhnlcscvoeffyshp] has joined #sbcl 19:09:34 Krystof: Let's talk inference 19:11:15 um, OK 19:11:16 Krystof, memo from beach: yes, I wanted to test that. 19:11:29 also, I have no idea what that means 19:11:43 oh, #lisp-related. Ok 19:12:01 memos are omnichannel 19:12:46 so I saw jsnell yesterday, and we did not discuss SBCL at all 19:12:52 what kind of utter failure is that? 19:13:45 I call it a fail win (: 19:18:20 yeah, Mr "I work for the competition" Fuchs 19:18:29 Krystof: constaint.lisp is one place it seems there seems to be most of the type inference going on. Is that right? 19:19:24 Krystof: it's no secret that I'm a double agent! 19:19:35 or maybe even triple agent. who knows?! 19:23:31 . o O (SBCL should be a literate program à la Knuth) 19:23:36 an agent of infinite alliances 19:23:47 Quadrescence: we eagerly await your patch 19:24:10 I'm pretty sure people would hate literate code more than like. 19:24:28 "what is this why are there equations in the source code" 19:26:05 -!- Krystof [~csr21@csrhodes.plus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 19:28:30 Krystof [~csr21@csrhodes.plus.com] has joined #sbcl 19:28:30 -!- ChanServ has set mode +o Krystof 19:58:31 -!- Krystof [~csr21@csrhodes.plus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 19:58:48 -!- antgreen [~user@nat/redhat/x-fhnlcscvoeffyshp] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 19:59:01 Krystof [~csr21@csrhodes.plus.com] has joined #sbcl 19:59:02 -!- ChanServ has set mode +o Krystof 20:10:23 -!- deepfire [~deepfire@80.92.100.69] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 20:11:48 deepfire [~deepfire@80.92.100.69] has joined #sbcl 20:28:50 -!- fe[nl]ix [~lacedaemo@pdpc/supporter/professional/fenlix] has quit [Quit: Valete!] 20:29:20 fe[nl]ix [~lacedaemo@pdpc/supporter/professional/fenlix] has joined #sbcl 20:42:23 NihilistDandy [~ND@c-75-69-129-101.hsd1.nh.comcast.net] has joined #sbcl 20:49:14 -!- mega1 [~user@catv4E5CABA2.pool.t-online.hu] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:51:14 -!- Krystof [~csr21@csrhodes.plus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:54:12 antgreen [~user@nat/redhat/x-jeswjgqpmjhnumtt] has joined #sbcl 20:56:49 Krystof [~csr21@csrhodes.plus.com] has joined #sbcl 20:56:49 -!- ChanServ has set mode +o Krystof 21:03:46 -!- redline6561 [~user@gate-20.spsu.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 21:42:27 homie`` [~levgue@xdsl-78-35-150-195.netcologne.de] has joined #sbcl 21:44:11 -!- homie` [~levgue@xdsl-78-35-156-60.netcologne.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 21:46:29 -!- homie`` [~levgue@xdsl-78-35-150-195.netcologne.de] has quit [Client Quit] 21:50:56 homie [~levgue@xdsl-78-35-150-195.netcologne.de] has joined #sbcl 22:05:18 -!- NihilistDandy [~ND@c-75-69-129-101.hsd1.nh.comcast.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:11:56 -!- hargettp [~hargettp@dhcp-162.mirrorimage.net] has quit [Quit: hargettp] 22:14:43 -!- dlowe [~dlowe@ita4fw1.itasoftware.com] has quit [Quit: *poof*] 22:24:15 gonzojive [~red@c-71-198-7-84.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #sbcl 22:24:48 pmurias [~pawel@89-75-37-59.dynamic.chello.pl] has joined #sbcl 22:25:20 I didn't know about this place.. if anybody would like to continue work on getting CLOS into cold, here's my work so far: https://github.com/gonzojive/sbcl 22:27:32 pkhuong_: does SBCL implement "partial redundancy elimination" or does it use other means to get rid of redundancy? 22:27:32 Sweet. 22:27:57 gonzojive: none whatsoever 22:28:01 gonzojive: nope. 22:28:21 there's some dead code elimination 22:28:37 prxq [~mommer@mnhm-590c332f.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #sbcl 22:28:51 hi! 22:29:27 -!- pmurias [~pawel@89-75-37-59.dynamic.chello.pl] has quit [Quit: leaving] 22:32:05 -!- antgreen [~user@nat/redhat/x-jeswjgqpmjhnumtt] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:34:23 in the compilers class I'm taking now, we're using a software project call "joeq"--it has a pretty friendly interface for implementing these sorts of optimizations on generic basic blocks. http://joeq.sourceforge.net/ 22:40:50 ok, here's my git-workflow branch for sbcl: https://github.com/antifuchs/sbcl 22:41:10 https://github.com/antifuchs/sbcl/blob/git-toolchain/GIT-WORKFLOW.md is the document describing the workflow as I imagine it. 22:41:19 comments welcome. foom / nyef / Krystof / anyone (: 22:41:39 wait. 22:41:40 WTF. 22:41:49 that rebase went bad. )-: 22:41:59 Should we hold off on review, then? 22:42:03 yes please 22:42:15 it's an old version of the document, and a non-functional version of the tree. 22:42:17 WTF. 22:42:19 Okay, then. 22:43:26 *antifuchs* deletes repo, to be safe 22:43:42 that doesn't sound safe to me. =0 22:45:10 foom: what doesn't? deleting the github repo? (: 22:45:22 that's a mere mirror, and I have a backup of it, too (-: 22:47:03 weirdly enough, somebody had already started watching the github repo (-: 22:47:53 -!- prxq [~mommer@mnhm-590c332f.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:49:15 hm. somehow that git-workflow.md document didn't get saved. WTFFF. 22:49:20 I hate all text editors. 22:50:40 ok, not doing this this afternoon. I'm obviously not fit to operate a computer. 22:50:52 would you like a persistent text-editor, which will never edit text, but always create new? 22:51:15 stassats: I would like one that saves the changes I make to a file when I hit the "save" short cut 22:51:19 which I have, repeatedly. 22:52:31 maybe you're using vim, it hangs after C-x C-s 22:52:37 *antifuchs* kills stassats 22:52:47 there. all better. 22:53:54 (if it wasn't clear, I /really/ am not in the mood for jokes right now (-:) 22:54:26 i wouldn't be either, if i were using vim 22:54:48 what /are/ you talking about? 22:55:10 nevermind 22:59:14 scymtym [~user@2001:638:504:2093:21a:a0ff:fe34:2d7d] has joined #sbcl 23:01:12 wtf is up with github's 404 page, the perspective changes as you move the mouse 23:01:15 -!- attila_lendvai [~attila_le@adsl-89-132-54-21.monradsl.monornet.hu] has quit [Disconnected by services] 23:01:15 attila_lendvai1 [~attila_le@adsl-89-132-0-140.monradsl.monornet.hu] has joined #sbcl 23:01:15 -!- attila_lendvai1 is now known as attila_lendvai 23:02:57 hee hee 23:03:13 ... feeping creaturism? 23:03:15 they obviously have too much energy to spend on html canvas graphics (: 23:05:07 it's not a canvas, just simple images which get their position modified by mouse location 23:09:04 even better 23:09:13 css tricks, then (: 23:16:00 cmm [~cmm@109.65.207.111] has joined #sbcl 23:19:39 -!- cmm- [~cmm@bzq-79-181-198-112.red.bezeqint.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 23:53:42 hargettp [~hargettp@pool-71-174-135-110.bstnma.east.verizon.net] has joined #sbcl