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21:30:23 yes 21:30:30 all SF.net CVS is down, right? 21:30:31 sf.net have taken cvs down for now, apparently 21:30:40 oh 21:30:41 sorry 21:30:47 you can use the git mirror 21:30:59 no maxima git mirror though, afaik (: 21:31:17 -!- stassats` [~stassats@wikipedia/stassats] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 21:32:48 i have a git mirror but for some reason it's not updating like weeks now 21:32:58 tell's me uptodate always 21:33:09 yeah. nothing much has happened 21:33:17 ...in the last few weeks. 21:33:21 ok 21:33:43 i never can't be sure if not some of my settings are screwd here over or such... 21:33:58 last change if from jan 21 21:34:05 1.0.45.13 21:35:20 ok 21:38:45 Time to drop CVS and officially go git? 21:42:43 It seems to me that it's just waiting on someone to forcefully-enough decide to do it, and agree to quickly deal with any consequences to the release process/etc. 21:43:39 didn't nyef have git scripts that do everything the CVS scripts did already? 21:43:44 *froydnj* nominates foom 21:44:04 No, they do everything that we, the maintainers do manually already. 21:44:57 I don't like said scripts because they encode a process that should just be dispensed with during the migration. "But it's always been done that way" be damned. 21:46:32 foom: so no more 1.0.64.7 but only 1.0.64-abcdef ? 21:47:19 more like v1.0.64-7-abcdef 21:47:46 (or whatever you wish to use sed to transform that into) 21:49:02 and an "official" git repo somewhere that release members can push to? 21:50:38 I think I'd be less opposed to the idea if I had a good writeup of how it would work in an SBCL context. 21:51:06 And that may well apply to anyone else in opposition as well. 21:51:31 nyef: an official release becomes someone tagging his tree as "v1.0.64" then pushing it to the "official" repo, that's all. 21:52:01 nyef: the repo may have a "release" branch with just those trees 21:52:15 nyef: and a "master" branch where any committer can push 21:52:23 A "writeup", meaning preferably more than 100 words of description, as a document. :-P 21:52:29 sbcl doesn't have any branches, no need to introduce one now 21:52:41 tags are enough for the official repository workflow 21:53:04 but yea, someone should write down my proposal. :) 21:53:13 *Fare* wonders whether to get rid of the release branch in asdf -- maybe not for now. 21:54:46 We can have a competition: does ITA or SBCL transition to git first? SBCL had a headstart and a much simpler repository, but ITA is catching up quickly. :) 21:54:59 speaking of which, if a committer could update sbcl to 2.012, that would be nice. 21:59:50 committing to cvs atm is hard, which is one of the reasons we're having this discussion... 21:59:56 ;) 22:00:15 ... It's hard? What? 22:00:30 because it's down? 22:00:33 Okay, sure, if sourcefarce is down it's a bit tricky, but still... 22:00:55 -!- hargettp [~hargettp@dhcp-162.mirrorimage.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:01:24 hargettp [~hargettp@dhcp-162.mirrorimage.net] has joined #sbcl 22:04:52 froydnj, if we officially adopt git, there's no need to commit to cvs anymore 22:10:52 Fare: clearly 22:12:53 does SF has an ETA to resuming service? 22:15:38 Have they even announced the outage on their website? 22:18:30 nyef: http://sourceforge.net/blog/sourceforge-attack-full-report/ 22:18:41 they are considering EOL'ing CVS 22:18:45 Ah, okay. 22:18:51 Really? Neat. 22:19:23 So if we want to continue to use CVS for SBCL, we'll need to move somewhere else, like clnet? 22:22:15 no the cvs site still refers to the cvs-pserver, as if it was accessible... 22:22:33 only when you want to browse the cvs repository it becomes evident that it is down 22:23:00 erm i meant sourceforge 22:24:34 Right, there's no mention of actual service outage on the front page or anything, just a link to the attack report. 22:29:50 -!- hargettp [~hargettp@dhcp-162.mirrorimage.net] has quit [Quit: hargettp] 22:36:34 -!- tcr1 [~tcr@217-162-131-235.dynamic.hispeed.ch] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 22:45:27 didn't think I would live to see the day that SF would eol CVS (: 23:15:32 glad you made it :) 23:16:01 so am I! (: 23:18:19 how can I compile sbcl runtime with debugging info? so that it helps gdb backtraces... 23:22:29 Monkey with CFLAGS as required? 23:36:04 -!- slyrus [~chatzilla@173-228-44-88.dsl.static.sonic.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 23:40:16 hargettp [~hargettp@pool-71-174-137-218.bstnma.east.verizon.net] has joined #sbcl 23:48:28 argh, slam.sh can not be used with a run-sbcl.sh as xchost 23:48:47 and it seems to ignore my export CFLAGS="-g3 -ggdb3" anyways :/ 23:56:31 attila_lendvai: slam requires an after-xc core... And if you used a run-sbcl in the first place, you can still use most of the slam machinery. 23:56:43 Just look at the script, and sub parameters out as required. 23:58:35 nyef: yeah, I saw, but I gave up... I wanted to help fe[nl]ix by fixing this bug, but I'd need to wake up up too much c debugging skills for that... 23:58:46 a free call hits a wrong pointer 23:59:06 when using iolib's run-program with a custom environment