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Is this expected? 14:51:24 No wait. may be my fault... 14:51:32 Some additional docstrings have crept in.... 14:52:27 yes, it was. sorry. 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Should I expect this? Is it something I did wrong? 21:49:56 yes & no 21:50:06 I actually do have a new DEFMETHOD, but no DEFGENERIC... 21:56:35 fe[nl]ix: Does my use of gray streams somehow cause loading of a library that causes the redefinition? 21:56:47 I was wondering from the code if I should be defining a method on pcl-close... 22:03:37 rpg: I posted a message on sbcl-devel about this, a few months ago 22:03:40 details there 22:04:07 or is it "posted to" ? 22:06:07 fe[nl]ix: Thanks. I will go look. any suggestions for search string? 22:07:16 http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.lisp.steel-bank.devel/14008 22:07:42 oh, thank you! I was trying to use the sourceforge UI and it's really awful. The search is especially nasty. 22:07:58 hahaha 22:08:04 gmane FTW 22:10:32 Krystof [~csr21@csrhodes.plus.com] has joined #sbcl 22:10:32 -!- ChanServ has set mode +o Krystof 22:11:32 fe[nl]ix: That was an easy ticket to close! WONTFIX FTW... 22:12:24 rpg: most mailing lists of any relevance are on gmane nowadays 22:12:33 at least those related to open source projects 22:13:18 fe[nl]ix: I use it for many things, but sometimes have trouble finding things. I entered with news.gmane.org and for some reason search didn't reveal sbcl to me... 22:13:28 Hence my grappling with the horrible Sourceforge UI. 22:13:42 I wish they would get in the wayback machine and go back 5 years to when their site worked. 22:16:00 rpg: hi! 22:16:29 Fare: Hi. I snuck onto SBCL since I've been porting some software. And getting ASDF2 goodness! 22:17:34 ASDF2 goodness? 22:18:16 btw, can SBCL be upgraded to ASDF 2.010 ? 22:18:35 it has notable performance improvements for the initial find-system... 22:18:54 (I think, ten times faster on my large /home/fare/cl/ ) 22:23:23 did I say ten times? After timing, it's more like 38 to 207 times faster. 22:24:00 I take it you mean "can we ask the SBCL maintainers to roll in ASDF 2.010.0," right? 22:24:02 directory **/*.asd is particularly slow on SBCL. 22:24:06 yes 22:24:18 more so than on CLISP, CCL, etc. 22:24:29 WFM. The long windows pathnames isn't a regression, so no one's any worse off, AFAICT. 22:25:07 2.010 also tries to make pathnames slightly less long on Windows - but still too long, probably. 22:25:32 Any chance of getting 2.010 into SBCL for 1.0.44? Or is it already too late? 22:26:03 probably too late for 1.0.44, unless the performance improvement is considered critical 22:27:18 Maybe I can get my :here path in (you had a better name for it) in time for 1.0.45, then. 22:27:29 (cold search through /home/fare/cl/ is 31s with ASDF 2.009, a fraction of a second with ASDF 2.010) 22:27:48 rpg: care to release it as 2.011 yourself? 22:29:08 Fare: Hm. Two issues: (1) My last attempt to use your release scriptage did not go well (but we could work that out together, probably); (2) I have big parenty stuff that is keeping me super-busy through the end of January. 22:29:28 (2) is bad because it means if I screw up a release it might not get un-screwed-up fast enough. 22:29:35 let me think about it for a little. 22:30:59 I do NOT use release scriptage -- it's left over from gwking 22:31:17 except that I do "make debian-package" 22:31:36 that's my only release scriptage (that and make test-all) 22:31:57 ok, I can do release 22:32:00 Oh. I think I did "make release" or something, and strange branches appeared. Won't do that again! 22:32:24 yeah, don't do it 22:32:27 not supported anymore 22:32:39 I must run now, but I will try to get some time to sit on the other side of IRC with you and make sure I am trained up on how to release, so that I can do it next time. 22:32:42 back later. 22:48:28 attila_lendvai [~attila_le@4d6f5d3b.adsl.enternet.hu] has joined #sbcl 23:30:33 -!- kjbrock [~kevin@173-11-106-193-SFBA.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has quit [Quit: kjbrock] 23:38:02 -!- attila_lendvai [~attila_le@4d6f5d3b.adsl.enternet.hu] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds]